Open thread: Hey, how does three and a half hours of debate on a Saturday night sound?
posted at 6:00 pm on January 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The fun begins at 7 p.m. ET on ABC. I believe it’s the GOP up first followed by the Hillary-Obama death match at around 8:30, so if you want to catch the Republicans and then switch to Jags-Steelers, you won’t miss much of either. Fred may go after Huck to try to start peeling away evangelical fencesitters in South Carolina; everyone else will be gunning for Mitt, with the exchanges between him and St. John promising plenty of acid highlights later.
Sound off in the comments and please pass along tips about video-worthy moments. In the meantime, for your reading pleasure, here’s (a) Bob Novak whispering that it was Mitt who was behind the Fred dropout rumors last week, (b) Slublog analyzing Huckamania, and (c) word from New Hampshire that the state GOP has dropped out of the debate tomorrow night due to Fox’s Ron Paul snub. With Paul bringing out independents and various donation-happy kooks for the primary, I guess they had no choice but to go to bat for him.
Update (Bryan): You may already know this, but if you want to keep track of the game while you’re watching the debate, hit the NFL’s site and click on the game score and you’ll get a page that’s updated every few seconds. Washington just took the lead as I was writing this update.
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And Hilary’s newest standpoint on Iraq is…………
Ferris on January 5, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Fred [Rich Lowry]
Let me join the bandwagon: he was good tonight. Turned out the format suited his laid-back style. I think even sitting down rather than standing up somehow helped him.
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Obama is the only one who didn’t lie, blatently, about the actual situation on the ground. He totally spun the issue in an utterly implausible way, but he didn’t actually contradict the facts on the ground.
LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Richardson,disfunctional government,what the h!ll!
Liberals refuse to work with the Bush administration.
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 9:53 PM
muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 9:50 PM
He’s a slick one alright.
Aggie85 on January 5, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Hillary will TAX or task the joint chiefs?!
maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Well paint me pleasantly surprised at this point
RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Okay so Bill went over his time again. Hook em all up to shock collars on high. They won’t go over more than once or twice.
PowWow on January 5, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Jac 21, Pit 7, Halftime
abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 9:54 PM
IRAQ WAR policy – Hillary – nope – change the subject – neeneenee I can’t hear you… no reason to remain beyond today…
Richardson – policy’s a massive failure – change the subject – this – totally mis-states all facts – totally misinformed or a liar – though I think he’s really just an insane goofball.
Obama – change the subject – mistake to go in – more generalizations – Anbar awakening occurred because Democrats were elected in ‘06! – be careful getting out.
Edwards – again, refuses to acknowledge facts, now somewhat more rational than previously… everyone out…
Richardson rebutall – must get everyone out period.
Hillary – lets do a more efficient Vietnam retreat!
TOTAL AMOUNT OF STATED FAMILIARITY WITH WHAT’S REALLY BEEN HAPPENING or ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF REALITY AND STRATEGIC SITUATION: 0.
Can’t say I’m surprised.
CK MacLeod on January 5, 2008 at 9:54 PM
AMEN! It’s driving me NUTS, and can you imagine the soundman??? THE PAIN! OH, THE PAIN!
MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Probably both!
techno_barbarian on January 5, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Obama gets a bounce in New Hampshire, according to Rasmussen.
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 9:55 PM
So far without all the staged soundbites,these Liberals are in a sand storm,——–National Secruity—their DOOMED!
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Microphones only work when given power.
SWITCH OFF.
maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 9:56 PM
I will order it tonight, you seem to think we should read it? :)
abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 9:56 PM
And while they’re at it tell him to home too. They were kidding about the viable part.
PowWow on January 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM
I’m begging you….Look it up on amazon.com and read the reviews it is SPOT ON about how its gonna play out
NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM
CACKLE!!!
Ferris on January 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM
CACKEL ALERT!
meandchi on January 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Lil’ cackle there…
Dork B. on January 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM
I’m reading it a 2nd time
NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM
hmmm… this guy is a Clintonite
tshell on January 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM
we got a cackle!
superfluousdude on January 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM
No – in the Carol segment they were at a wife swappers party and Peter was with Carol and everyone in the room had to pick the keys out of a bowl and everyone also had a safe word. I can’t remember all of it, I would look on youtube for the clip but NBC pulled all of them that people had posted due to to copyright infringement.
But I can’t rmember what Carol’s safe word was….but the segment was hilarious, as Horatio Sanz was in that character.
AprilOrit on January 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM
CACKLE! AGGGGHH!
MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 9:58 PM
They’ve switched pitchers,——–noe comes the softballs!
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 9:59 PM
She has feelings?
tshell on January 5, 2008 at 9:59 PM
NickTx,
I will, I will for true
abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 9:59 PM
aawwww… hurt feelings.
Ferris on January 5, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Agents of Change?
Sounds like Hill is stumped
Beto Ochoa on January 5, 2008 at 9:59 PM
That hurts my feelings!
OMG
LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Awwwww…. my wittle feewings are hurt! “You’re likeable enough, Hillary” Heh (good one, Barack)
MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Now they are just being silly
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 9:59 PM
We like each other…
kumbaiya
Mcguyver on January 5, 2008 at 9:59 PM
gag Sillary playing hurt. aahhgggg Puke
abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Hillary is flitting and playing girlie girl with the room…
Too bad it doesn’t work on her husband.
AprilOrit on January 5, 2008 at 10:00 PM
oh my god i think i just threw up a little in my mouth
Mojack420 on January 5, 2008 at 10:00 PM
I know…sorry, I mixed it with another Sarsgaard skit that night…I dont remember the safe word
NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Can you imagine ANY of the Republicans saying “hey, Mitt hurt my feelings.” PUHLEASE!
MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Again, what are these 35 years she is talking about?!?!
Ferris on January 5, 2008 at 10:00 PM
A penny for every time HC says change is, well, a lot of change.
meandchi on January 5, 2008 at 10:01 PM
You poor folks doin’ shots on the word change are gonna die
Beto Ochoa on January 5, 2008 at 10:01 PM
clap at first woman president
RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 10:01 PM
So the rest of the night is Bush Bashing by Hillary’s comments!
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Hillary just played the gender card!
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 10:01 PM
I ordered it the first time you mentioned it a day or two ago. I should have read it a while ago, but thanks for reminding me about the book.
rslancer14 on January 5, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Well then release your damn records, Shrillary! If you’re going to run on your “35 years of experience,” then why don’t you release those records?
MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:01 PM
republican attack machine? no bias there.
superfluousdude on January 5, 2008 at 10:02 PM
“I’ve revved up the Republican attack machine”?????
MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Hillary on her likability? Would you buy a used car from this person,
NixonHillary?petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Dang. I rev’d up the R attack machine. LOOOOSER.
Spirit of 1776 on January 5, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Thanks…you WONT be disappointed…let me know. 5 stars I say.
NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 10:02 PM
“I revved up the Republican Attack Machine!” Blech, what a sniveling tool.
Bad Candy on January 5, 2008 at 10:02 PM
What’s the comments record?
Vizzini on January 5, 2008 at 10:02 PM
I’ve revved up the Republican attack machine Ha ha ha how are the Redskins doing ha ha ha kill yourself ha ha ha. Man this guy is annoying.
Dash on January 5, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Gee all those nasty men are picking on poor old little Hillary the victim tonight again
William Amos on January 5, 2008 at 10:03 PM
I’m still waiting for a list of these accomplishments Ms Rodham
Beto Ochoa on January 5, 2008 at 10:03 PM
going after the lobbyists…and free speech
RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 10:03 PM
“rev’d up the republican attack machine” what a jerk. And Obama wasn’t interested in the Repub debate? also a jerk. The republicans were all adults, respectful of Obama, and acted like such (except for mcCain, geez, why is he so grumpy?) Man, we really need the adults in the whitehouse.
JustTruth101 on January 5, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Would this reporter have said “I’ve revved up the Democrat attack machine” if the GOP candidates had gone second? What a putz.
MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:03 PM
I just had this brief thought of Bill Richardson becoming Carol – blue-green eye shadow, tight sweater and all – and screaming out the safe word to Charlie Gibson…or to his opponents on the stage.
AprilOrit on January 5, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Well said!
Dork B. on January 5, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Obama’s promising Americans task cuts…
maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 10:03 PM
because you are way left of center mr change
Mojack420 on January 5, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Obama sounds good on tracking the expenses,except for
Jefferson!
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 10:04 PM
I think WMUR’s “political” analyst is quite the partisan hack. And I’m sooooo shocked! /sarc
MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Mark Steyn: …some two-thirds of NH independents are supposedly planning on voting in the Democratic primary, you’ve got to reckon they’re mostly there for Obama – which would give him a victory margin at least as big as in Iowa.
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Richardson renamed taxes “fees” and they did go up.
maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 10:05 PM
OMG – look at that Hillary gaze toward Bill Richardson….darts.
AprilOrit on January 5, 2008 at 10:05 PM
I swear every time I see Richardson, the theme from Leave It To Beaver plays in my head.
PowWow on January 5, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Maybe Richardson needs to read Huck’s book.
CK MacLeod on January 5, 2008 at 10:06 PM
When an opponent throws him a line of BS, Obama has a way of stepping back,, refusing to debate on those terms with a pause, redefining the terms in a more reasonable way, and then rebutting the charge. I like that!
petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 10:06 PM
POISON darts!
MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:06 PM
yeah and they backed out of your deal didnt they Dick
Mojack420 on January 5, 2008 at 10:06 PM
ouch!
RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Did Fred kick everyones arse in this debate or what?
If you agree, just say Fredalanche!©
TheSitRep on January 5, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Jesus, the only Democrat with security clearance is dysfunctional, Bill.
Obama belongs to the “total failure” of the past 7 years.
maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Fredalanche!©
maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Let’s see if Hill mentions going after the Oil Company profits…
Dork B. on January 5, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Richardson: I’m a failure, but everyone else is too!
LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 10:07 PM
STOP THE BANGING, RICHIE!
MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Stop. Pounding. On. Your. Stupid. Friggin’. Podium. Bill.
Bad Candy on January 5, 2008 at 10:07 PM
I’ll check it out, NickTx. Thanks for the reccomendation. I guess I should see what our eventual fate will be. Hillary was the only Dem who was sane on foreign policy and she just got torpedo’d.
joewm315 on January 5, 2008 at 10:08 PM
@ NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 9:51 PM
You have to admit Obama is a great speaker. I am not getting pulled in, I am just admitting that he is a damn good democratic candidate. I disagree with just about all of his positions on every issue, but damn is he a good speaker.
muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Mega dittos.
petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Our planet (like my podium)is getting damaged.–Richardson
maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Richie, the “climate” is changing because of all of your hot air.
MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:08 PM
I like the way he pounds on the podium :D
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Oh, and Fredalanche!!
joewm315 on January 5, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Eh, Richardson, I doubt Hillary wants you to talk about JFK and youth.
Spirit of 1776 on January 5, 2008 at 10:09 PM
I’m sorry, I was fixin’ muh hair…whus mah question?
Dork B. on January 5, 2008 at 10:09 PM
I’m beginning to think the Dem half of tonight’s debate are rather a disaster, except for Obmama.
petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Yes, this setting serves him very well.
Spirit of 1776 on January 5, 2008 at 10:09 PM
I agree, muyoso, and that’s what scares me. He will be much harder to beat than Hillary, and he is soooo naive about our enemies.
joewm315 on January 5, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Shut up about the mills already, Breck Girl!
MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Oh gawd here comes the mill and sharecropper story!
conservnut on January 5, 2008 at 10:10 PM
I think about 1200 when we beat the amnesty bill.
Bad Candy on January 5, 2008 at 10:10 PM
So was Stephen A. Douglas
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 10:10 PM
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