The Pentagon’s Muslim tug-of-war ends in defeat
posted at 6:15 pm on January 4, 2008 by Bryan
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Islam, no pun intended as you’ll see below, wins a victory at the highest levels of the Pentagon.
Mentioned Dec 28, Steve Coughlin is looking for a new job.
Stephen Coughlin, the Pentagon specialist on Islamic law and Islamist extremism, has been fired from his position on the military’s Joint Staff. The action followed a report in this space last week revealing opposition to his work for the military by pro-Muslim officials within the office of Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England.
Mr. Coughlin was notified this week that his contract with the Joint Staff will end in March, effectively halting the career of one of the U.S. government’s most important figures in analyzing the nature of extremism and ultimately preparing to wage ideological war against it.
He had run afoul of a key aide to Mr. England, Hasham Islam, who confronted Mr. Coughlin during a meeting several weeks ago when Mr. Islam sought to have Mr. Coughlin soften his views on Islamist extremism.
Mr. Coughlin was accused directly by Mr. Islam of being a Christian zealot or extremist “with a pen,” according to defense officials. Mr. Coughlin appears to have become one of the first casualties in the war of ideas with Islamism.
The officials said Mr. Coughlin was let go because he had become “too hot” or controversial within the Pentagon.
This is in a Pentagon run by a Republican president who has called himself a “war president” in the past. Emphasis on “past,” apparently.
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Goodness.
Theworldisnotenough on January 4, 2008 at 6:17 PM
Can he sue for wrongful dismissal?
Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on January 4, 2008 at 6:18 PM
Hold on I’m going to go smash my face on my desk for a while.
bj1126 on January 4, 2008 at 6:18 PM
That will teach the infidel.
EnochCain on January 4, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Anytime you lose the muscle on your end in a tug of war, you end up with mud on your face.
fogw on January 4, 2008 at 6:19 PM
As we begin our slouch toward the current state of France.
AmericanDad on January 4, 2008 at 6:22 PM
As my nation crumbles around me, and dhimmi is imposed on one and all……..
I will die before I ever submit.
Hawkins1701 on January 4, 2008 at 6:24 PM
Political correctness will kill us all.
Entelechy on January 4, 2008 at 6:24 PM
“Beware the Christian zealot with a pen.”–Islamic zealot.
It’s nice to know that simple smears are now enough to bring our military to its knees. We don’t need to bring back the .308, so much as to collectively sit down and try to remember where we were the last time we used our Malkins.
TexasDan on January 4, 2008 at 6:26 PM
Submission.
Kid from Brooklyn on January 4, 2008 at 6:27 PM
Wow, literally losing to Mr. Islam. Irony can be very ghey.
Cuffy Meigs on January 4, 2008 at 6:27 PM
This is insanity is the logical result of everything that Bush has ever said about Islam. When Bush called himself a “war president” in the past, it was merely a joke. Bush has neither the intelligence nor wisdom to be serious about the survival of the West.
We need either someone serious about our culture’s survival or a Democrat we can oppose.
thuja on January 4, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Modified.
All the more reason we can’t afford to nominate a RINO.
thirteen28 on January 4, 2008 at 6:31 PM
DAMN!!!
.
If that doesn’t take the B.S. prize of the year. DAMN.
.
While pretty young muslim girls are being KILLED BY THEIR FATHERS IN THE NAME OF ISLAM, the Pentagon chooses to silence someone in their own ranks that just might understand why these people do what they do.
Sharia is more than just CREEPING in ‘08.
shooter on January 4, 2008 at 6:31 PM
The inmates are running the asylum.
Always Right on January 4, 2008 at 6:33 PM
I’m begging you all to read Londonistan by Melanie Phillips.
Begging.
NickTx on January 4, 2008 at 6:33 PM
this reeks of sharia.
crr6 on January 4, 2008 at 6:34 PM
What a bunch of dangerous morons are running our country. Starting with Bush, who pretends ignorance.
pat on January 4, 2008 at 6:34 PM
I hope that B. H. Obama will fix this. He’s the hope guy right?
pedestrian on January 4, 2008 at 6:39 PM
Time for all of us to call the White House.
Rush, are you reading this??
Zorro on January 4, 2008 at 6:42 PM
No he’s the guy with all the terroist cousins are troops are being killed by.
This story really saddens me. To think that PC and a screaming Muslim can circumvent national defense is reprehensible. I thought we turned the corner when Clinton left but I guess not. The thing to do here is to make sure Mr. Islam gets fired for bringing his religion into a government workplace.
highhopes on January 4, 2008 at 6:43 PM
We are screwed…well and truly screwed. Folks getting locked up in England for blogging about the hated religion, no not Christainity, and experts being fired for conflicts with Mr. Islam.
President Bush can kiss my ass…and any moderate Republican better convince me quick that he isn’t as big a pu#@y as Bush.
Moderate Republicans will be the death of us all. We need a conservative in the Whitehouse, finally.
Fred all the way…
PierreLegrand on January 4, 2008 at 6:45 PM
Its only the beginning.
NickTx on January 4, 2008 at 6:46 PM
Mind if I join you? I almost have a space cleared here…
Frozen Tex on January 4, 2008 at 6:49 PM
No, no, no. You are not going to tell me that a counter terrorism chief at the Pentagon has been fired because he’s too tough on terrorists. What the hell is wrong with America?
SoulGlo on January 4, 2008 at 6:50 PM
CAIR is selling Gordon England’s small berries on ebay.
Really.
locomotivebreath1901 on January 4, 2008 at 6:52 PM
You mean he actually had some at one point?
Frozen Tex on January 4, 2008 at 6:54 PM
The incompetence at the highest levels of our goverment never fails to amaze me.
Afterimage on January 4, 2008 at 6:54 PM
We all need to be very cognizant of when we offend people.
Make friends with your executioner.
benrand on January 4, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Here’s how Wonkette spins it:
The complacency of fools will destroy them.
Oh, and while there, they write:
Maybe that’s because the Major specifically said in his final post:
amerpundit on January 4, 2008 at 7:01 PM
Wait a minute, we don’t know all of the details. This Steve Coughlin guy may have actually called these extremists, extremists…we can’t allow that…and, he may go to church on Sunday, you know, separation of church and state. Next thing you know he will be running around using the words “axis of evil”.
right2bright on January 4, 2008 at 7:05 PM
In five minutes you will be back talking about New Hampshire and who has the most balloon and bunting money and the relevance of this or that. Mr. Islam smiles discreetly and Bush wonders why he never gets to hold the Saudi Kings right hand. And it is only going to get worse.
There has got to be a vomit bucket big enough somewhere.
BL@KBIRD on January 4, 2008 at 7:12 PM
When the leader of the free world is a token idiot, how do you not expect incompetence from those who serve under him to be any different.To dismiss a person who has a clear understanding of the Islamic threat because he is too demonstartive reflects an incompetence that is indicative of the leadership in both parties. Read “Rule By Secrecy” by Jim Maars and see what may be the reason why all of this is happening like it is.
volsense on January 4, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Our way of life is under threat by our own leaders (Bush, McCain, Clinton, Kennedy, almost any Democrat) just as much as terrorists. None of these people will stand up for OUR way of life…the one we’re told our military is fighting for. They will throw their own traditions, beliefs & very people overboard of it makes them look politically correct.
Are there no patriots left?
SOMEONE LEAD! NOT JUST TALK ABOUT IT!!
DwnSouthJukin on January 4, 2008 at 7:23 PM
“A great civilization cannot be conquered until it destroys itself from within”….Ariel Durant. Our leaders will weaken our core until panic and despair replace our will to fight when the killing starts. Islamists know the foundation our country was built on is cracking from those who cannot perceive reality.
volsense on January 4, 2008 at 7:32 PM
Fixed.
Califemme on January 4, 2008 at 7:32 PM
Let’s see, which candidate in the running right now wouldn’t take any of that PC crap? Which guy would tell the pinheads to shut up and do their job? Hmm, hmm, hmm, who could it be?
Could it beeeeeeeeee……..FRED!!!!!
Oh, and he’d punch the hippies, too.
iurockhead on January 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM
As our frontline military grows more and more adept at battling this enemy and countering his ideology, our leadership grows more and more clueless and ineffective.
joewm315 on January 4, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Invertebrate?
However, it could lead to it, and you’d be among its first victims. But it’s too early, and you can still play Kindergarten. La, la, la
Entelechy on January 4, 2008 at 7:40 PM
WWMrGaMD?
What Would Mr Goodness and Mercy Do?
Speakup on January 4, 2008 at 7:49 PM
So let me get this straight. . .
The pentagon’s #1 guy with knowledge of Islamic extremism brings up an issue with Islam he deems important to the safety of America. Then a Muslim inside the pentagon says that Muslims aren’t that bad and he should say so.
The pentagon then fires the #1 guy acting in our defense because he did his job. . . and was profiled and considered a Christian extremist.
Our country does not have the ability to defend itself. The Pentagon failed miserably under Rumsfeld with Iraq and that is what has caused so much trouble with the war. The Pentagon should be ashamed because they really can’t defend us.
Maybe Ron Paul is right and we should just cut the military spending if they are just going to destroy us from within on behalf of our sworn enemies like this. If this is how they use my tax dollars, I want my money back.
ThackerAgency on January 4, 2008 at 7:51 PM
Yes.
Its doing a pretty good job ongoing.
Speakup on January 4, 2008 at 7:52 PM
The Hero list continues
1. Stephen Coughlin, Pentagon specialist on Islamic law
2. Hotair, for letting us know this is happening
The Villian list grows
1. The PC crowd who are sterilizing the Pentagon of patriots as we speak
2. The MSM for pretending as if this is not happening while publishing Ramadan recipes
entagor on January 4, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Here is one way to learn about the enemy.
BL@KBIRD on January 4, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Enough, ALLAHPUNDIT, who do you support for President? Who does Michelle support? Isn’t it time that y’all declare?
It is likely that only two of the current candidates would oppose the sort of nonsense that is occuring inside of our Government. Giuliani and Fred…some might say Mitt but I believe that he wants folks to like him too much.
PierreLegrand on January 4, 2008 at 7:57 PM
No Malkins. I say again, No Malkins, in the Pentagon. None.
I used to work there. This is insane in the extreme. The day that Christian fundamentalists are not welcome in the Pentagon, but Islamic apologists are, is the day we start down the road to extinction. Because the Christian fundamentalists knew their limitations.
Shame.
Subsunk
Subsunk on January 4, 2008 at 7:59 PM
McCain is the best on national defense as he was right about Rumsfeld and the surge when it was unpopular.
Rudy will never be in the White House even if he does happen to win the nomination. He won’t even win Florida.
ThackerAgency on January 4, 2008 at 8:00 PM
My dog ate my link and I don’t know why.
BL@KBIRD on January 4, 2008 at 8:02 PM
Cant make the link thing work.
google …Sceptics Annotated Koran
A fun an easy way to find out why the Muslims must destroy you or die trying.
BL@KBIRD on January 4, 2008 at 8:07 PM
This is where you need a man for president. But Bush is too much of a pussy cat.
Pardon me, for the superfluous use of the word cat.
TheSitRep on January 4, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Check the post’s byline, big guy. Stop yelling at Allah for my posts. Third time in the last 24 hours I’ve had to remind some of you schmucks that I exist.
Bryan on January 4, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Stephen Coughlin is a contractor, not an employee.
He has no claim for wrongful termination as an employee.
It is unlikely that he has any recourse under his contract.
Is Hasham Islam the enemy within?
slp on January 4, 2008 at 8:33 PM
Aw, come on BP. He’s French; what do you expect?
As for Islam, England and Coughlin, this is truly a bullshit story. Eff ‘em all, I say. I will not submit.
As for the notion that so-and-so the Presidential candidate will save us from this, nonsense. Name me one from this bunch of flaming douchebags who isn’t a RINO fem?
Jaibones on January 4, 2008 at 8:38 PM
So political correctness is running amuck in the Pentagon,
under a Republican President,he offended a Muslim,and they
just so happen to be the group,er more to the point Islamofashists,and they’re the one’s killing American’s.
Yup,Barbarian’s at the gate,Stephen Coughlin is an expert
on Islam,and also an asset on the War on Terror,and he’s
fired for hurting a Muslim’s feelings, SURREAL!
canopfor on January 4, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Thanks for the post Bryan and for your existance too I know that sometimes it mat seem that there is so many out there looking out for us but I am sorry it sure isn’t McCain. He sees all the stuff( he keeps telling us here in NH he does) Well he sure told us all about the immigration issue too. I want someone who will shake up all the establishment and there is only 3 that might be able to do it. I know who I am voting for but right now it isn’t the establishment.
bones47 on January 4, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Wait… Who are you?
Frozen Tex on January 4, 2008 at 8:46 PM
So it is ok to be a Muslim zealot with a bomb, but it not ok to be a Christian zealot with a pen?
“Christ, when are you returning to stop this madness?”
Tim Burton on January 4, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Debbie Schlussel: With a Pentagon Like This, Who Needs Enemies?
After word of the confrontation between Mr. Coughlin and Mr. Islam was made public, support for Mr. Coughlin skyrocketed among those in and out of government who feared the worst, namely that pro-Muslim officials in the Pentagon were after Mr. Coughlin’s scalp, and that his departure would be a major setback for the Pentagon’s struggling efforts to develop a war of ideas against extremism. Blogs lit up with hundreds of postings, some suggesting that Mr. England’s office is “penetrated” by the enemy in the war on terrorism. . . .
A Joint Staff spokesman had no immediate comment.
From comments:
Speechless! Flabbergasted. Bush’s legacy has indeed been written and it ain’t that good either.
History will judge him and his ilk fools no better than Emperor Nero from the Roman Empire.
Remember folks Presidente Boosh has stated that Islam means peace(Yeah we were f#cked from that moment forward).
Posted by: warpmine
MB4 on January 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Gawd Bryan, you guy’s are not helping my depression from last night at all.
Throw a guy a bone for goodness sake!
conservnut on January 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Remember folks President Roosevelt has stated that Nazi means peace and has just been hijacked by a few extremest.MB4 on January 4, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Not schmucks…Schmuckabees.
Speakup on January 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
And yet another reason that having a candidate who supports 2nd Amendment rights is a huge issue for me in this campaign. I have been worried about the sustainability of America in the past, but I have never until recently actually been afraid that my children will not inherit an America that in anyway resembles the one we know.
deepdiver on January 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Not a good course for our country, especially our military. There is a good size element among the Muslims who are fanatical for their religion, and probably would kill for it. That’s a simple fact. An inconvenient fact, evidently.
gmoonster on January 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
I welcome our muslim
infiltratorsoverlords.thedecider on January 4, 2008 at 9:48 PM
I want my country back…get rid of these ba$tard unamercian Islamist’s and any other religion or ethnic group that can’t play well with others….grrrrrr.
I don’t remember hearing squat about the mooslimbs until 911 then all of a sudden we’re suppose to be on our knees kissin their a$$e$. What’s with that? That’s right political correctness started by the old time flower children(lazy hippies) that was picked up by the RHINO’s.
WHAT A WORLD, WHAT A WORLD!
And this is modern society? New and improved no doubt.
oldernslower on January 4, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Not yelling at Allah for your posts. Allah posts at this blog and given his omnisciency I know he will see it. You have schmucks for readers? Who knew?
I identify this blog with both of you and with Michelle even though she does not post here.
Allah though has made it his duty to bash Fred and so I was asking given the paucity of choices in this election who his choice was? Who is YOUR choice? And who is Michelle’s choice and why be coy about it?
I have been moving away from National Review because of their lack of balls regarding Islam but at least they announced their choice for President. Makes it easy to read their coverage of other candidates because we know where they stand. It would be easier to deal with Allah’s bashing of Fred if he would simply say hey I want this or that person to win.
This issue, firing of Coughlin, shows the inability of the Bush administration to actually win this war. They can win battles on the backs of men like Andy Olmstead but they cannot win the war because they are corrupted by the idiocy of multiculturalism. Islam will take those idiots to the cleaners in the battle of philosophy. Soooo asking who y’all are supporting for President is natural.
Sorry for not noticing who wrote the byline.
PierreLegrand on January 4, 2008 at 9:58 PM
This is nonsense. I’m a moderate Republican. I’m one hundred ten percent into defending the West. Bush is conservative Republican. It’s his and Romney’s mindless justification of religion–regardless of the content of the religion–as always something good that got into this mess. Why can’t Christians justify Christian faith in itself without resorting to defending faith regardless of the content of the faith? Does this method even defend Christianity? I’m an atheist and I can think up better justifications of Christianity than this mindless justification of faith in itself. Communisim is a faith. Islam is faith. Mayan religion with its routine human sacrifice is a faith. Faith alone is garbage. It’s the content of the faith which needs to be justified. Argue Christianity is good and true because it responds to some set of needs in the human condition.
thuja on January 4, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Thank you for this follow up Bryan.
I knew that this was its likely ending. One of the scariest clues of this unfolding nightmare and it will fade away in the election hub bub.
Just one islamophobe head rolled but surely this “racist” had allies skulking in hall ways speaking ill of Islam (which the UN just this week deemed illegal). They too must be exposed and expunged or at least dhimmified into silence.
I’m just painting too dark a portrait of our friends like Mr. Islam you may well say. Just because Islam subverted all it’s targets in history with these tactics doesn’t mean Islam would employ them today does it?
Now if Mr.Islam comes forward and overtly declares his apostasy I would be slightly mollified. Are the people in the Pentagon apostates? If they are not apostates, how can they be undermining Muslims (who fight to please Allah and advance Islam) by working for the great satan? Can’t every one smell the smell here?
Of course having “pro Muslim officials” backing you, half a Wormtongues job is already done.
BL@KBIRD on January 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Typical Pentagon game if “my boss outranks your boss so I can do whatever I want to”
crosspatch on January 4, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Yeah just read an email from the DNC that is worried about those Christian extremists too. Strangely enough I’m starting to think that they might just be the only thing that can combat all these moderate Muslims calling for our submission.
And thuja, who ever told you you were a moderate Republican? Had they ever read anything you wrote?
Buzzy on January 4, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Conservative Republicans do not commit US Troops to war without massive increases in Defense spending, Bush did. Conservative Republicans do not try and give Amnesty to 20 million illegals, Bush tried 3 separate times and was despeparate enough to lie about it the last two times. Conservative Republicans do not preside over vast increases in the size and scope of the Governments reach into our lives but Bush joined hands with Kennedy to bloat our government. Conservative Republicans do not hold hands with our enemies, and Bush has repeatedly held hands with Saudi Kings, Muslim terrorists and their like.
Bush is a big business moderate Republican, perhaps the most dangerous sort of politician in modern history. He listens to the likes of Mohawk textiles when they pine away for illegals to man their factories and he listens to Islam when it claims it is the Religion of Peace.
A Dhimmicrat would have to be Satan himself to be much worse.
Conservatives have not caused the Republicans to lose these last few elections. RHINO’s pissing on the base have caused them to stay home.
PierreLegrand on January 4, 2008 at 11:23 PM
What the f**k was that all about? You’re a moderate Republican atheist that knows and understands conservative Christians? I don’t think so..
docdave on January 4, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Who does Diana West support?
MB4 on January 4, 2008 at 11:37 PM
At 8:33 slp states
The Pentagon fired the wrong fella. Replace the instigator “Hasham Islam” with someone of character like Ibn Warraq or Aayan Hirsi Ali or Dr. Wafa Sultan. Either one of these three understand the political force of Islam as well as, if not better than “Hasham Islam”. DUMP ISLAM NOW!
What credentials does Mr. England carry? Is he also under contract? Then perhaps we can take advantage of the fact that he can not claim for wrongful termination as well.
Clearly Mr. England’s interests do not lie with American interests – at least not as those interests have been understood since the last great war.
Stop this insanity.
heroyalwhyness on January 4, 2008 at 11:48 PM
My point doesn’t even require that I “understand conservative Christians.” And I could be a devout Christian and make the same point. My point is that conservative Christians should argue for Christianity in a way that doesn’t justify Islam or ancient Mayan human sacrifice.
Bush and Romney have justified faith for its own sake–regardless of the content of the faith. That means all faiths are good no matter how heretical or evil the faith. We are left with Islam being good by definition. How can that make sense for a conservative Christian?
thuja on January 4, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Who?
Entelechy on January 5, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Those of us below the Pentagon level know an extremist from a “moderate”. Don’t worry about our level…
major john on January 5, 2008 at 12:28 AM
The understatement of this thread.
“religion of peace,” myarse. Cult of death.
Texas Nick 77 on January 5, 2008 at 12:35 AM
I will ask and yes that is an excellent question. I really don’t want to put Allah, Bryan and Michelle on the spot. Actually I wish all of the conservative blogsphere would stop being cute and just declare. Having National Review and Hugh Hewitt as the only blogs with balls irritates me.
PierreLegrand on January 5, 2008 at 12:50 AM
Say what you will about Rudy, but I think he’s probably the least shy about shining a harsh spotlight on exactly who the enemy is and what they’re about. His latest ad comes across like a movie trailer, but the images clearly point to Islamic extremists as the number one threat to America. It’s pretty far from being politically correct, I’d say. I can’t see Rudy standing for one moment for a Pentagon official being fired for telling the truth about jihadists and their sympathizers.
Fred might also be that tough and straightforward, but Rudy’s statements, ads, and personal history prove that he would be. I mean, the man returned $10 million to a terrorist supporter, and he kicked Arafat’s terrorist a$$ right out of NYC.
aero on January 5, 2008 at 12:50 AM
Sounds like she was a pretty big fan of Tancredo, so was I.
PierreLegrand on January 5, 2008 at 12:53 AM
Ok, time to move to Pakistan where the islamists don’t have as much power in the government.
- The Cat
MirCat on January 5, 2008 at 2:04 AM
Someone please contact Cyrus Nowrasteh and David L. Cunningham, creators of “The Path to 9/11” (still not out on DVD, I might add).
Let them know to begin casting now. Methinks Mr. Coughlin may be the next John O’Neill.
Captain Scarlet on January 5, 2008 at 3:27 AM
Of course the muslims think we are weak. We are.
peacenprosperity on January 5, 2008 at 7:59 AM
Not me. I prefer your posts. They are more relevant.
peacenprosperity on January 5, 2008 at 8:00 AM
When a nations military becomes politicized you end up with coupes.
The leaders must take the high road and understand as Sun Tsu did. The best defense is a better offense because can not negotiate with the enemy. Once the enemy is identified the military’s function is to mitigate its influence or eliminate it.
Once the enemy is neutralized/eliminated, the military returns to its defensive posture to develop new offensive tactics learned from the recent encounter and weapons to win the next encounter.
When politicized the military does not know who the enemy is and disintegrates into establishing themselves as the protector of the people (remember a military is usually a cross section of the nation that created it) until a leader comes along that can gain the military trust so it can return to being the defensive tool it was designed to be.
MSGTAS on January 5, 2008 at 8:26 AM
Debbie Schlussel, warpmine, & MB4 on January 4, 2008 at 9:03 PM–we’re all gagging from that pit in the stomach
It’s pretty obvious who benefits vs. suffers by this Bush pre-emptive defanging.
Sadly, this would align with the GW “stay the course” with Rumsfeld’s let them eat cake strategy vs. fortification of invasion.
Witness evangelical compassionate conservative = bleeding heart liberal with GW and then project Huck’s version to the power of 10 at least.
N.B. the timing of this dismissal with GW’s successful de-funding of the border fence. (Shame on Kay Bailey Hutchison.)
So what gives on national security? Will the conservative movement gain over compassionate RHINOs?
maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 9:28 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_R._England
This has more information than his official biography on the DoD website. He was never in the military and had been a defense contractor his whole career.
Mooseman on January 5, 2008 at 9:29 AM
I am a career officer and this is a very true and disconcerting thought.
BadBrad on January 5, 2008 at 9:33 AM
The Pentagon bound crowd needs a group retreat to the front for some one on one with that they wish to defend. There needs to be reality based people in that bunker of benefits screaming bloody murder about Islam.
God bless you Mr. Coughlin, and please continue the good fight.
Hening on January 5, 2008 at 9:48 AM
Folks, we may well need our militia before this is over. The wrong people are in charge in congress and at the pentagon.
Their heads are up their butts so far, they need a snorkel to breath.
leanright on January 5, 2008 at 10:23 AM
I also doubt either one of them would stand for having his foreign policy undermined by a leaked, half assed, contradictory NIE report.
a capella on January 5, 2008 at 10:25 AM
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