That was excellent. Oh, and the Thanksgiving dinner crack? The visual for that struck me so funny I nearly choked on my coffee.

I like to hear this about Florida and hopefully other states as well.

The Huckaboom and the ignorance surrounding it is very sickening.

The silver lining though is real conservatism is being more and more clarified.

And as such a real conservative president elect is inevitable in ‘08 because of the great hunger for such.

You get Jeb Bush and Rick Perry falling over each other to help Romney in order to be considered for VP and he can win. Either of these guys can help repair the damage to the hispanic relationship. Need hispanics to cancel out black voters some how some way.

pc on January 5, 2008 at 12:05 PM

I think Jeb Bush is smart enough to realize that his last name has no chance of appearing on the ballot.

Let’s dispel this myth once and for all.

Imagine that the Conservative Coalition is a table with five legs. Each leg is a group within the tent: the Social Cons, the Fiscal Cons, the Foreign Policy Cons, the Law and Order Cons, and the Small Government Cons. Sure there’s some overlap, but go with it for now.

Now, most people can see that if (insert candidate) is nominated, he will saw off one or more of those table legs. The question now is who will saw off a leg or two, but still leave the table standing?

If Mitt takes the nomination, he might saw off the Social leg (Mormon/Abortions) and/or the Small Government leg (Health Care). If McCain gets the win, he saws off the Fiscal leg (Bush Tax cuts) and the Law and Order leg (Immigration). If Rudy gets the win, he saws off the Social leg (abortion, gay marriage), and some amount of the Law and Order leg (gun-grabbing and plummeting crime balance in some manner).

If Huckabee gets the win, he preserves the Social leg… and he saws off the Fiscal leg (taxes and spending), the Foreign Policy leg (let’s hug Iran like it’s Thanksgiving dinner), the Law and Order leg (let’s free 1300 criminals who “found Jesus”), and the Small Government leg (Let’s ban smoking, for the children).

For every candidate besides Huck, we at least have a table that can stand. Huck saws off every leg but one.

Lehosh on January 5, 2008 at 9:22 AM

Huckabee doesn’t just saw off the legs of the table. He crashes right through it as if the Dudley Boyz just powerbombed him on it.

Florida hasn’t gone wild over Huckabee. I’m actually a little surprised, but happy.I’m glad to see North

Conservatives do have a problem here in Florida overall. The state party has given us crist and martinez, two rinos in the worse way. I gaurantee that the demofascists are planning a similar stunt in Florida in 2008 as in 2000 if the opportunity arises. They know it will work this time because crist will not only let it happen, he will help them.

Nope, Central Florida

That makes it a little clearer. There are alot of snowbird retirees form the north and transplanted families from the north who came to take advantage of the boom. A high percentage of those people are from industrial, traditionally democrat states. I think you still have the Naval Air Station there but the military presence isn’t as strong as it is up here. Although we have corrine brown (cynthias mckinney’s evil stepmother) this is a solidly conservative area.

Sounds like Anton on January 5, 2008 at 8:25 AM lives in South Florida and the identity politics going on may be hispanic influenced and not evangelical. They may be backing the huckster for his insane immigration opinions.

peacenprosperity on January 5, 2008 at 9:31 AM

Nope, Central Florida. But I thought about the Hispanic reaction and decided I don’t know enough to post about it. My local Puerto Rican neighbors (the very-conservative Protestants) are very atypical of South Florida types. My neighbors hate the illegals and really resent being confused with Mexicans, since Puerto Ricans are native-born Americans, even if raised a Spanish-speaking territory (I imagine folks from Guam think of themselves as native-born Americans as well).

peacenprosperity on January 5, 2008 at 9:27 AM

I’m in Central Florida, in the middle of the “I-4 Corridor” (named after the local interstate) that was considered a crucial swing district during the last Presidential election.

I’m glad to see North Florida hasn’t gone wild over Huckabee. I’m actually a little surprised, but happy.

If Huckabee gets the win, he preserves the Social leg… and he saws off the Fiscal leg (taxes and spending), the Foreign Policy leg (let’s hug Iran like it’s Thanksgiving dinner), the Law and Order leg (let’s free 1300 criminals who “found Jesus”), and the Small Government leg (Let’s ban smoking, for the children).

For every candidate besides Huck, we at least have a table that can stand. Huck saws off every leg but one.

Lehosh on January 5, 2008 at 9:22 AM

Well done, but in my opinion Huck is going to convincingly (and successfully) overcome most, if not all, of those issues with many, many GOP voters. He’s got insanely strong verbal kung-fu.

Hey, what about Fred?

JiangxiDad on January 5, 2008 at 9:29 AM

Fred has to convince people he doesn’t know what a saw is.

Lehosh on January 5, 2008 at 9:22 AM

Awesome!

Anton on January 5, 2008 at 8:25 AM

I believe you for this reason….

Fred is not a Jesus candidate like Huck is. He did not, does not pander to a specific group. He speaks conservatism only. These same folks who were really excited about Fred and his conservative positions, have now moved over to a guy who is the antithesis of that? AND the SOB is LYING to them about his record as governor?!

What is the connection? IMO it’s the likability factor. Fred’s likable and so is Huck. Fred became less than likable by making the mistake of speaking seriously about conservative issues after he announced.

This coming from Christians. Christians who have been admonished through scripture to avoid “familiar spirits”. Well, this likability stuff is the epitome of “familiar spirits”.

I don’t want to minimize the abortion issue. But IMO, that issue is the one they use to justify being beguiled by Huck’s familiar spirit. But is he really that pro-life? Didn’t he take money from the stem cell lobby? How is that any different than what other candidates have done?

So, the evangelicals that are voting for Huck are serious misguided and cannot be considered true conservatives. Their vetting process boils down to abortion and likability. I think they are easily manipulated by someone who knows what makes them tick.

BUT, there is hope. Less than half of the evangelicals voted for Huck. That means the rest split between Mitt, McCain, and Fred. One of these guys needs to pull that majority together to vote for one of them. If that candidate can do that, the Huckabubble will burst and he will go back to where ever he came from.

We attend a conservative mega-church which is nominally Methodist,

I’ve read several articles recently about the drift left of these mega churches (no offense intended, Anton) I think it is highly possible that members of these churches who are loyal, devout members and good people, could be subtly manuevered leftward by moral relativist preachers. The link to Laura’s website on one of these posts is interesting and gives some insight. The joel ostein/rick warner school of evangelicalism is closer to the church of england moral relativism stuff then to strict catholicism/lutherism/traditional southern baptist.

I hear the same kind of thing here in VA… evangelical Christians

And by the way, my county has overwhelming voted Reagan, Reagan, Bush, Bush, Dole, Bush, Bush. Sounds like Anton on January 5, 2008 at 8:25 AM lives in South Florida and the identity politics going on may be hispanic influenced and not evangelical. They may be backing the huckster for his insane immigration opinions.