The Muslim representative (not sure if he was an imam or not) speaking in the video says it’s wrong for family members to “take the law into their own hands”.
This is NOT the same as a guy who kills his daughter’s rapist. What law is he talking about? Sharia? Sorry…not applicable here.

flipflop on January 3, 2008 at 10:55 AM

Good catch.

- The Cat

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Now that’s what I call a track back. Not sure what it says but you have to admire the fontitude.

These people demonstrate they have been had their brains washed with the wrong detergent (beliefs) that should have a warning label on it that states this subject matter may be hazardous to your mental health.

Un américain musulman d’origine égyptienne, Yaser Abdel Said, chauffeur de taxi, a tué ses deux filles de 17 et 18 ans à l’aide d’une arme à feu et a abandonné les corps dans son taxi. Les deux sœurs, brillantes au lycées, s’habillaient…

Islamic law specifically forbids reform.

Kinda makes it hard.

Ironically, a “world caliphate” (at least ruling the Islamic nations) may be the only way reform can happen, as a caliph can overrule Imams, and Imams primarily compete as to how literally they can interpret the texts.

That’s a big maybe, however. An awful big maybe.

ScottMcC on January 3, 2008 at 4:56 PM

That would be great, thanks!

Bryan, it could be worth updating this post with that audio. Medved’s producer is named Jeremy Steiner and I have his contact info if you want it.

So why is daddy upset his “daughters were dating outside their religion” if the boyfriends appear to be Middle Eastern? The local TV news says the boyfriends fear for their lives, but what is it about the boyfriends that drove the crazy father to murder his own daughters rather eliminating the threat of the boyfriends first?

We’re not getting all the info here…

ScottMcC on January 3, 2008 at 1:32 PM

I’ll point out the obvious… the father appears to be a whabbist of some kind, it’s entirely possible that the boys were either on the wrong side of the sunni/shia divide, a “lesser” form of islam such as sufi, or christian/jewish even if they were from the same middle eastern area.

He’s the one making the argument that “honor killings” are cultural rather than based on anything in Islam.

Since the all consuming role of Islam is what dictates Muslim culture how can the two terms be considered separate at all?

When will honor killings stop? When Imams stop saying one thing to the camera and another to Muslims who pray 17 times a day for the destruction of the Americans who live all around them.

For once, we now know the barbarians don’t love their own children.
It’s horrific and alien to our mindset.

If this guy killed his daughter, then fry him. Good thing he’s in Texas.

It could be more cultural than religious. I could also be more sociopath than cultural. Who knows. The Muslim guys I work with love their daughters.

Merovign on January 3, 2008 at 1:43 PM

That’s true. I don’t know which boy he was (I’d guess the taller one), but one of them was audibly crying about what happened. It’s a horrible thing.

Whatever, excuser.

And I feel extra sorry right now for the young man who stopped following them on the day of the murder because his girlfriend told him she was okay.

This is going to haunt him for the rest of his life.

So why is daddy upset his “daughters were dating outside their religion” if the boyfriends appear to be Middle Eastern? The local TV news says the boyfriends fear for their lives, but what is it about the boyfriends that drove the crazy father to murder his own daughters rather eliminating the threat of the boyfriends first?

We’re not getting all the info here…

eeyore on January 3, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Her dad wants to know, “where is that…..what you Americans call…….The Woodshed?” “My daughter and I are on our way to that place right after this.”

People finally stopped using the term “suicide bomber” because it didn’t really describe what happened. The same should happen to the term “honor killing”.

And I like the way the newshead stated “honor” killings were condemned by local muslim leaders… leaving unasked the question about the opinion of non-local muslim leaders.

“…yeah, well..”

My initial translation of that was “yeah, we’re sure you don’t condone violence…” in a sarcastic sense.

Mr. krushchev said we will bury you
I dont subscribe to this point of view
It would be such an ignorant thing to do
If the russians love their children too

For once, we now know the barbarians don’t love their own children.
It’s horrific and alien to our mindset.

Again, I have to ask why no one reported this situation, or even asked the question. People knew this man was violent, or capable of being violent; why was nothing done? Of course, I don’t blame the victims here; these young girls were completely innocent. It just seems like all the warning signs were there and they were either ignored or disregarded.

fourstringfuror on January 3, 2008 at 12:04 PM

In any sane society, the idea of a father killing his own daughters because of a perceived shame or honor issue is… um… just not there. It’s inconceivable.

Again, I have to ask why no one reported this situation, or even asked the question. People knew this man was violent, or capable of being violent; why was nothing done? Of course, I don’t blame the victims here; these young girls were completely innocent. It just seems like all the warning signs were there and they were either ignored or disregarded.

fourstringfuror on January 3, 2008 at 12:04 PM

A capability for violence isn’t enough. An investigation would have found no actual violence, and he would have been given some bogus warning and let go…whereupon he would have had a ‘look what shame you have brought to our family’ motivation to cross the line into real violence. Since it appears that his first actual offense was murder, it turned out to be best to postpone him crossing that line for as long as possible.

It’s not right…but it’s what people fearful for their lives do.