Hillary’s pre-emptive Hawkeye spin: 3rd place wouldn’t be so bad

posted at 9:56 pm on January 2, 2008 by Bryan

Hillary must have seen some internal polls that don’t look so good, or perhaps she heard of some back room deal for shifts in support between other candidates as second choices. Whatever she knows, she’s preparing the world for her to finish 3rd in Iowa. It’s Embarrassment Prevention 101.

As the presidential candidates engage in furious pre-caucus spin, one of Sen. Hillary Clinton’s most prominent Iowa supporters said Wednesday that she’s already accomplished what she needs to in Iowa and can declare success even if she finishes in third place.

Former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack told ABC News that Clinton has shown that she can appeal to a wide swath of Democrats, which is what she came to Iowa to do.

“She has done what she needed to do here,” Vilsack said shortly before a Clinton campaign event in Indianola. “When she started the process she was way behind — it’s now by all standards a competitive race.”

Asked if the order of finish matters, Vilsack deflected the question.

“She absolutely had to be competitive, and she’s accomplished that,” he said. “Obviously, everybody’s interested in winning, and I think we’re going to do well. It’s tight. There’s no question about that.”

That this is coming from Vilsack is telling: He’s only the former governor and most prominent local Hillary supporter. But the thing is, if this spin was an honest take, we would have heard more about it before now. On the GOP side, Giuliani has downplayed Iowa from day one, so no one expects him to do anything there. McCain downplayed it to, but not to the same extent so even a third place finish actually does look good for him.

But not for Hillary. Third place will look like a late collapse. Because that’s exactly what it’ll be. Such a finish won’t take her out of the race, but it will pop the “inEVITAble” balloon.

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No surprise here. Let’s face it, confidence and optimism isn’t exactly characteristics of the Democratic party. Defeat at all cost.

Kmarion on January 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM

I hope the “inEVITAble” balloon is big (to match her ego) and filled with hydrogen so we can see the flames out here on the Left Coast.

sondiehl on January 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM

When I prayed to God and asked him to stop Hillary I never thought he would send Oprah. I’ll be more detailed Lord next time I pray for your mysterious ways

Drtuddle on January 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM

wonder if this could turn into an obama/edwards slugfest

jones on January 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM

That would be such a shame,especially
when you have a goal to become president
from as far back as the third grade!

canopfor on January 2, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Good thing she’s in Iowa where they’re used to bull$#!~ being flung about.

Beto Ochoa on January 2, 2008 at 10:14 PM

This is great news. Gonna be hard for ole Bama to take that VP slot of hers after whippin’ her in the whitest state in the union…

Heh.

Jaibones on January 2, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Third place will look like a late collapse.

You ain’t kidding. The “punk” Terry McAuliffe was spinning her possible loss as not too damaging earlier on Hannity and Colmes.

Zorro on January 2, 2008 at 10:15 PM

jones on January 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM

wonder if this could turn into an obama/edwards slugfestslap fight

there that looks better

Mojack420 on January 2, 2008 at 10:15 PM

“When she started the process she was way behind — it’s now by all standards a competitive race.”

Huh? Wasn’t she like eleventy gazillion points ahead of everybody when this all started?

flipflop on January 2, 2008 at 10:19 PM

Just wait. . . .
I’m forecasting light to moderate street violence. .. .

rockhauler on January 2, 2008 at 10:21 PM

This is pure GRAVITAS.

benrand on January 2, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall

Beto Ochoa on January 2, 2008 at 10:28 PM

Ha, that’s a great Clintonian response. Terry McAsshat was on H&C earlier. While he didn’t predict third, he did start downplaying the whole Hawkeye Cauci thing.

They are spinning like tops.

conservnut on January 2, 2008 at 10:34 PM

I agree with her. It isn’t what position you come in in Iowa, it’s how well you do in comparison to the other candidates. If the D votes are 30-28-25 %, well then 25% ain’t so bad and third place isn’t the disaster that say 15% might have been.

That’s the problem with Rudy’s ‘strategy’. He could have gutted it out and been competitive especially with an endorsement from a former winner (Robertson). But it’s not so much that he doesn’t win. It’s that he’s going to get fewer votes than Ron Paul. To me, that IS disaster for someone who wants to win the state in the general election.

They say Rudy didn’t try, but he had rallies, he was in the state. What he means is he didn’t spend a lot of money there. I bet he spent more than Huckabee.

No matter how Hillary does, she’s going to be the nominee. Saying that 3rd isn’t so bad will probably energize her base more than her saying I’ve got #1 wrapped up so no need to come to the caucus. Hillary is likely the most savvy politician in history. Hillary would never run away from a state even if she thought she wouldn’t win – like some ‘leader wannabees’.

ThackerAgency on January 2, 2008 at 10:34 PM

Sounds like there are a few candidates that the Harridan doesn’t have FBI files on.

She should have run back in 96.

BowHuntingTexas on January 2, 2008 at 10:40 PM

The only thing Hill knows how to lead is people who believe they are entitled to the earnings of others. That and leading Bill to the next intern.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on January 2, 2008 at 10:47 PM

Its a play for New Hampshire. She is stronger there and Edwards is a non factor.

I predict Obama will win Iowa tomorrow. And that is a good thing as Hillary will have to spend money to fight his money

William Amos on January 2, 2008 at 11:02 PM

Polls.. POll?

whats a Pole? Something you prop up and climb upon to make yourself higher.

Are you higher?

totem polls

amend2 on January 2, 2008 at 11:04 PM

no offense to Totems (native American)

amend2 on January 2, 2008 at 11:05 PM

Hillary’s candidacy is ludicrous, on every level. Monica has WH experience. More in the Oval Office than HRC. Is she running also?

petefrt on January 2, 2008 at 11:14 PM

Incumbent Presidents have sometimes virtually been handed re-election. Everyone else has to fight to get in. Good for the Democrats that they’re going to make her try to prove herself. Right now, it looks like she might fail – and what a relief that would be. Even if she would have turned out to be a loser in the general, there would still have been months of exposure to chance and contingency – not to mention cackles.

CK MacLeod on January 3, 2008 at 12:02 AM

To me anything but a win here makes breaks the inevitability of the “smartest” woman in the world.

If the Republican primary is a disappointing “running of the RINOS”, the Demomarxist primary is the “running of the ultra lightweights”.

wildcat84 on January 3, 2008 at 12:14 AM

But, she was so…INEVITABLE! I was so looking forward to another Clinton presidency. The scandals. The endless Congressional hearings and investigations. So much entertainment potentially before us. Lost. Sad, I am. B. Hussein Obama won’t be as entertaining.

thedecider on January 3, 2008 at 12:29 AM

When I prayed to God and asked him to stop Hillary I never thought he would send Oprah.

Drtuddle on January 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Those Jews are such commedians.

The thought of both Mr. Clean and Silky besting the Beast has made my day.

No way Hackles would be another Ferrara to Mr. Clean or Silk’s Mondale.

pedestrian on January 3, 2008 at 1:13 AM

I’m taking a slightly different spin on this. Mz. Inevitable is downplaying expectations so when the vote is very close her people can hype it as a “come from behind” victory instead of what it really is- a defeat.

Face it, Hillary should be light years ahead of either Obama or Edwards in the national polling. The Clintons have a ruthless cadre of loyalists who will do anything for these criminals people. Instead of getting the nomination by acclamaition, her thighness is alleging that Obama sold drugs and coveted the Presidency from the third grade! These are not the marks of a winning candidacy.

highhopes on January 3, 2008 at 7:58 AM

When I prayed to God and asked him to stop Hillary I never thought he would send Oprah

Funny thing about that. She appeared, and disappeared. Must have been some dirty laundry on her.

JiangxiDad on January 3, 2008 at 8:56 AM

highhopes on January 3, 2008 at 7:58 AM

If the Democrats were interested in substance and not placating identity politics, Dodd and Biden would be the frontrunners, not Hillary/Barack/Edwards.

BKennedy on January 3, 2008 at 9:15 AM

BKennedy on January 3, 2008 at 9:15 AM

No question about it. I don’t think Dodd would be all that good a President and Biden would be a trainwreck of monumental proportions in the job but they’re serious candidates with real experience. That they aren’t even on the radar is a clear indication that the Democrat party is working off a template to pander to the special interests.

highhopes on January 3, 2008 at 9:30 AM

Let’s play “Pick the Biggest Lie”.

1. “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky.”

2. “I am pleased with the results in Iowa, as I never expected to finish higher than third.”

L.I.A.R.S. Inc.

fogw on January 3, 2008 at 10:27 AM

I second sondiehl’s sentiments.
Brace yourself for Billy’s assessment.

Christine on January 3, 2008 at 11:12 AM