I’m with Fred ‘08! It’s a Fredalanche!

tickleddragon on January 3, 2008 at 10:45 AM

You guys can tell the Fred supporters all day long that we’re whining, and delusional. But most of the positivity on this site, dealing with the election, has been from the Fredfolks.

I’ve got news for you. The reason this site was so wonderful was the positivity, and nearly instant information. The positivity is slowly disappearing.

Let me state once again. I don’t care what the MSM, bashers or the polls say. I will support who I deem best for the job. And will not support the people I deem posers or back-stabbers. Your criticising me for that support – and the requisite positivity about the candidate – will make no dent in that support. But it will make it harder for me to patronize the site.

The hostility on this site is getting ridiculous. Welcome to Kos-Right.

Well. I don’t think I said supporters of other candidates have been brainwashed by the media. Or that Fred has done a great job of getting his message out. Didn’t I acknowledge that he’s a little dull?

But it’s beyond cavil that Big Media is filled with a bunch of superficial morons who pretend to care about substance but don’t.

That was my point — and damned if I’m not right.

aero on January 2, 2008 at 11:08 PM

let me see if I get what you’re sayin’…..

If we don’t vote for Fred it’s because we just don’t get it. If we support another candidate/s it’s because the MSM told us to.

The media could have chosen to create a Fred surge if they had wanted to, regardless of his lackadaisical style. They did not want him because he did not kiss their collective hineys and because he’s too conservative for them. That’s not Fredhead spin. McCain is not very much more exciting than Fred on the stump or in debates. Remember the last Iowa debacle debate? McCain just phoned it in. He looked old, tired, and bored, while Fred was full of vim and vigor. But now the media tells us McCain is the only one who can beat all three top Dems in head-to-head matchups, so he has to be our guy. The media is telling us who our candidates should be, and too many of us are letting them.

That’s not whining, by the way, lest you be tempted to call it such. That’s what we call analysis.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/

Contribution to Fred at this point is a waste of time and money.

omegaram on January 2, 2008 at 10:02 PM

you are killing my buzz, man!

Aside from Steyn, Levin, Robinson, Ledeen, McCarthy, Cliff May, Adler, there are is little of substance from the others at NB.

As for Romney, NB made an endorsement when more competent people like Rush have refused to do so. They made their call too soon in the process for some undetermined reason and are likely to lose some of their subscribers as a result. Now, should Romney fail to deliver in Iowa and NH, where does that premature endorsement stand? It’s hard to put the bullet back in the chamber once fired.

Still, NB tracks and posts much of what Rush has to say day-to-day. Rush has already taken down Huck and McCain. He’s been almost silent about Romney (except for his religious thingy speech) and has said some positive things about Fred!

His policies obviously favor the rich…

omegaram on January 2, 2008 at 10:02 PM

…really…so, Huck’s your man?

FRED – WAKE UP! YOUR CANDIDACY IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY UNLESS YOU REALIZE THAT YOUR INITIAL SUPPORT CAME FROM THOSE WHO THOUGHT YOU WOULD CHAMPION THE NEEDS OF THE NATION AND NOT PANDER TO THE NEEDS OF THE WEALTHY. THE TWO INTERESTS IN MANY, MOST, CASES ARE OPPOSED.

I was mistaken when I thought Fred “got it”. What the majority are looking for is center conservative that does not favor the rich. His policies obviously favor the rich, and a particular disappointment was a plan to cut social security benefits for those that thave contributed all their lives. Those that need this income in later years who needed it the most would have benefits cut at a time when they are in most desperate need.

FRED – WAKE UP! YOUR CANDIDACY IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY UNLESS YOU REALIZE THAT YOUR INITIAL SUPPORT CAME FROM THOSE WHO THOUGHT YOU WOULD CHAMPION THE NEEDS OF THE NATION AND PANDER TO THE NEEDS OF THE WEALTHY. THE TWO INTERESTS IN MANY, MOST, CASES ARE OPPOSED.

Contribution to Fred at this point is a waste of time and money.

Ochlan on January 2, 2008 at 8:29 PM

Denial ain’t a river in Egypt…

That day will soon be here and I wan’t to preempt it by saying to CS welcome to the fold.

No. It’s up to the legislature(s). Judges cannot make law. Presidents cannot make law.

This belief in the judicial ‘power’ of ’striking down’ law has to stop. The judiciary does not have veto power over the legislature.

Ochlan on January 2, 2008 at 8:29 PM

Only the legislature or a juror.

He covets his iPhone like its a religious relic; he’s the very epitome of style over substance. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that he dislikes Fred or the people who suport him. They’re like Allahpundit kryptonite…

liquidflorian on January 2, 2008 at 4:24 PM

I hope this was intended to be sarcasm, Allah has been a bit snarky thats true, but that volume of attention he has shown Fred speaks quite a bit about what he thinks, and the vast majority of attention he has given Fred has been positive.

Since when would that be up to the POTUS. Its up to the SCOTUS

No. It’s up to the legislature(s). Judges cannot make law. Presidents cannot make law.

This belief in the judicial ‘power’ of ’striking down’ law has to stop. The judiciary does not have veto power over the legislature.

So Rudy has pledged to allow states to outlaw abortion? Please enlighten me.

MadisonConservative on January 2, 2008 at 3:57 PM

Since when would that be up to the POTUS. Its up to the SCOTUS. Rudy has promised to appoint judges that would most likely result in that outcome — strict constructionist — unless of course the Justices found that Roe was precedent, but that would be the case with any Justice appointed to the SCOTUS.

If he repented of his own free will then I would have apologized and accepted his conversion. However, I think my criticism is valid and his claim to thoughtful reasoning is a little hard to swallow.

Bill C on January 2, 2008 at 4:53 PM

Valid, however, he wasn’t threatend as in so much benevolently advised. Not to mention, he is consitently civil now, in comparison. I just don’t want to have the same old personal rhetoric re-emerge just cuz. In other words, the ‘baiting’ culture of some of the discussions here gave me headaches (and for some, heartache).

I have not been a fan of csdeven’s rhetoric, however since he was mildly admonished by Bryan a few nights back, I can say that your current assement of csdeven is late-coming and not relevant.

That said, although I’m not entirely in agreement with csdeven (and other fred-opposers), as of lately, he has made his arguments easier to swallow and understand.

geckomon on January 2, 2008 at 4:48 PM

If he repented of his own free will then I would have apologized and accepted his conversion. However, I think my criticism is valid and his claim to thoughtful reasoning is a little hard to swallow.

…You have not made thoughtful reasoned comments about Fred Thompson from the start. Distorting, obfuscation and outright lies have been your game and Romney seems to be your man…

Bill C on January 2, 2008 at 4:40 PM

I have not been a fan of csdeven’s rhetoric, however since he was mildly admonished by Bryan a few nights back, I can say that your current assement of csdeven is late-coming and not relevant.

That said, although I’m not entirely in agreement with csdeven (and other fred-opposers), as of lately, he has made his arguments easier to swallow and understand.