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Questioner who asked Fred the “fire in the belly” question: He rules

posted at 8:45 pm on January 1, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Via TGT11, he faced the gulf of hostile press — and triumphed.

After listening to Sen. Thompson and thinking about what he said, I can only conclude he is the best candidate for the job.


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ummm. . . awesome jump. . . worthy of crazy daredevil status. But I didn’t see Thompson anywhere on this video. Am I missing something?

ThackerAgency on January 1, 2008 at 8:52 PM

I didn’t know Fred road a motorcyle….. :) Was that him jumping over the other candidates?

Nelsa on January 1, 2008 at 8:52 PM

Motorcycle jump … Thompson … Dude

Timothy S. Carlson on January 1, 2008 at 8:53 PM

It’s idiotic snark, ThackerAgency. Allah can’t simply report that Thompson actually answered the voter’s question to the voter’s satisfaction without snarking about how this is some earth-shaking success.

This is because Allah is a tool.

Centerfire on January 1, 2008 at 8:55 PM

His hair and teeth were perfect. He smiled.

At least we can trust the author isn’t a superficial thinker.

I wanted to know does this man want to be my President?

I’m glad he got his answer. I like to know why he wants to be President. What are the things that only a President can do that he wants to do?

Fred seems to have put some serious policy positions together, and since his acting gig is over at least for now, if he doesn’t get elected, why not take a seat in the cabinet or VP or whatever?

I’ll say this though, if Fred gets elected, he will truly have a mandate because the people have worked harder than the candidate. Which is a compliment to his supporters, not a knock on him.

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 8:55 PM

I’m glad he got his answer. I like to know why he wants to be President. What are the things that only a President can do that he wants to do?

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 8:55 PM

I think he answered that in the Iowa video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VblJq4j0_SE

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 8:59 PM

This is because Allah is a tool.

Sweet.

I think I’m guilty of crimes against conservatism, don’t you?

Allahpundit on January 1, 2008 at 9:01 PM

I think I’m guilty of crimes against conservatism, don’t you?

Allahpundit on January 1, 2008 at 9:01 PM

Naw. You tweaked it. It makes sense now.

wccawa on January 1, 2008 at 9:02 PM

There is no doubt in my mind that Fred has what it takes to be a great president. His opponents may be way more ambitious but so too was Stalin.

Ambition != Leadership

TheSitRep on January 1, 2008 at 9:02 PM

ConservativeVoiceUSA endorses Fred and tells us why in a video here.

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 9:04 PM

I don’t believe that the sun rises/sets in Fred’s derriere; also, said (big) posterior wouldn’t fit on that bike, nor lift that high…’cause he’s lazy.

The video was impressive, though.

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 9:04 PM

The hot babe.

That was the link to Fred.

The babe is the reward at the end.

Fred will get that no matter if he wins the nomination or not.

That is the problem.

Translation: Get babe late in life, nothing else matters.

Hope. Springs. Eternal.

Mcguyver on January 1, 2008 at 9:05 PM

Curt at Flopping Aces put together a list of blogs that have endorsed Fred.

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 9:06 PM

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 8:59 PM

Pardon me, but allow me to make the distinction. Fred sets forth the case on why he would be a good leader in the coming year in relationship to the ‘threats and dangers’ and ‘hope and opportunity’ (his word). Agreed?

What he does not do is say what it is that only a President can do, which is why he got into the race. I’m starting to think that it’s one of those never to be unanswered questions – a throwaway line to deflect questions before he launched his campaign. Because his campaign has (in my mind) been focused on his principles and values as a consistent conservative, selling the idea that he is the best leader…a much more general view, and if this site is any indication, one that resonates with his supporters.

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 9:06 PM

Awesome jump, but I didn’t see a shark anywhere.

- The Cat

MirCat on January 1, 2008 at 9:07 PM

I think I’m guilty of crimes against conservatism, don’t you?

Well, you do live in New York, and have New York “values,” right?

Slublog on January 1, 2008 at 9:08 PM

Spirit, buddy, I’m beginning to think that on this one issue you’re morphing a bit into ours csdeven.

Kind advice – never conceive of trashing Jeri, no matter how fixated you’ll get on this question.

p.s. if your guy isn’t Huckabee/Paul, I’ll vote for him.

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 9:09 PM

I think I’m guilty of crimes against conservatism, don’t you?

Heh, that would have been if you posted a crash video. According to the code pink handbook as least. Videos of success mean you are a tool of the military-industrial complex.

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 9:09 PM

Fredstates.com took a radio ad now playing in Iowa and turned it into a video here.

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 9:10 PM

Awesome jump, but I didn’t see a shark anywhere.

- The Cat

MirCat on January 1, 2008 at 9:07 PM

AP already jumped the shark with the “silly hat rule.”

wccawa on January 1, 2008 at 9:10 PM

No he didn’t!
Just now on Hannity and Colmes, Huckabee said that he believes Romney is dishonest and then went on to say something about putting things on a resume that were not true……
—————————————-
Calling John Bolton…

Nelsa on January 1, 2008 at 9:10 PM

That motorcycle sure needed a lot of time and a long run to gather speed before hitting the ramp. Just saying.

MT on January 1, 2008 at 9:13 PM

Suppose Fred had some “fire in the belly” he could get up on that bike and jump?

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 9:14 PM

Spirit, buddy, I’m beginning to think that on this one issue you’re morphing a bit into ours csdeven.

Madam, you are very mistaken. And I shutter to think that you would think I might deride Jeri, whom I have repeated complemented. I have never spoken one derogatory term about Fred* and everything I have said about him (aside from sarcasm, I think) is honest. If you go back into the vaults and look when Fred was talking about entering in, I wrote then that I was curious about those things he wanted to do that only a President can do. I’ve been waiting for those answers. Now, I can reasonable say that I don’t expect him to put anything like that out, but I am not spinning the issue at all to say that he has run a campaign based on his conservative/ federalist values and not on the things that only a President can do.

*I have criticized his style and the comparisons that he draws to himself and his actions, especially as regarding CFR. Nothing about the man himself personally.

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 9:15 PM

Okay.

People like Centerfire and Ex-Tex are feeding the image of the acolyte, the “Fredbot”. They’re overreacting to Allah’s cognitive dissonance. Not helpful.

People like BKennedy are focusing completely on how well Fred is running a campaign. We don’t need an advertising exec, we need a leader.

Allah is a people in and of himself. He keeps a box of kleenex and a bottle of Astroglide next to the keyboard as he preps his next Fred jibes that he knows are generating trafficus horrendous.

And in the end, it still doesn’t disprove the fact that Alf should have been elected in ‘88.

MadisonConservative on January 1, 2008 at 9:16 PM

What he does not do is say what it is that only a President can do, which is why he got into the race.

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 9:06 PM

Listen to the last 8 minutes of the video.

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 9:16 PM

Evel Thompson.

marc@hubsandspokes on January 1, 2008 at 9:16 PM

AP probably used to shoot rubberbands at the neighbors cat, I’m guessing.

Just a hunch.

Wind Rider on January 1, 2008 at 9:17 PM

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 9:16 PM

Playing it again right now.

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 9:18 PM

What Fred needs most now is what that bike had in spades… traction. Seems like he originally thought his “ramp” was in SC.

MT on January 1, 2008 at 9:19 PM

What Fred needs most now is what that bike had in spades… traction. Seems like he originally thought his “ramp” was in SC.

MT on January 1, 2008 at 9:19 PM

I agree. I think Iowa was a last minute decision.

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 9:20 PM

Bob Owens from Confederate Yankee has given Fred his endorsement yesterday.

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Can ya’ll smell a Fredalanche! © a comin’?

TheSitRep on January 1, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 9:15 PM

Perhaps in the next debate someone should ask him that question. Or maybe a voter should.

Also, not to worry – we’re good – as you are prone, I also am sometimes (more so in the past) prone to irony. Forgive, please.

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 9:23 PM

TheSitRep, how was that dinner? Demerits for rubbing it in; just kidding.

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 9:24 PM

And in the end, it still doesn’t disprove the fact that Alf should have been elected in ‘88.

MadisonConservative on January 1, 2008 at 9:16 PM

Dude! How did you know?

wccawa on January 1, 2008 at 9:26 PM

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 9:20 PM

A few days will tell us if that calculated risk was a mistake or not. If Rudy is imune to losses in Iowa and NH b/c he didn’t try, then Fred deciding to jump into Iowa with both feet could have been a big mistake… if losing there kills his campaign as people are saying.

After waiting so long to get into the race, it seems odd that he would shift his strategy from SC to Iowa at the last minute, no?

MT on January 1, 2008 at 9:26 PM

I might have to take a break from working on my new website to start emailing Allah again he is getting stuck on the same message over and over again.

Need the break anyways been working non stop for several days now.

Of course could just keep posting here and let allah run ahuck

William Amos on January 1, 2008 at 9:26 PM

Listen to the last 8 minutes of the video.

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 9:16 PM

Such a silly request, as if you expect him to hear what Fred says. Spirit is every bit as anti-Fred as csdeven or tommylotto. He’s just much more of a gentleman in how he shows it. A civilized respectful gentleman at that.

doriangrey on January 1, 2008 at 9:26 PM

A few days will tell us if that calculated risk was a mistake or not. If Rudy is imune to losses in Iowa and NH b/c he didn’t try, then Fred deciding to jump into Iowa with both feet could have been a big mistake… if losing there kills his campaign as people are saying.

After waiting so long to get into the race, it seems odd that he would shift his strategy from SC to Iowa at the last minute, no?

MT on January 1, 2008 at 9:26 PM

I think Fred was planning on having more money at this stage in the game but potential donors are asking him to prove himself. Therefore, Iowa. That is my speculation anyway.

Rudy has the money to sit it out.

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 9:28 PM

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 9:24 PM

¡Muy Delicioso!

TheSitRep on January 1, 2008 at 9:28 PM

Personally, I like Freds explanation. I find it kind of refreshing and wish more of our political leaders had that kind of reasoning.

conservnut on January 1, 2008 at 9:29 PM

I might have to take a break from working on my new website to start emailing Allah again he is getting stuck on the same message over and over again.

Need the break anyways been working non stop for several days now.

Of course could just keep posting here and let allah run ahuck

William Amos on January 1, 2008 at 9:26 PM

Hey now, be kind to Allah, the volume of attention he is paying to Fred speaks far more regarding his intentions and feelings than the seemingly apparent tone he takes.

doriangrey on January 1, 2008 at 9:30 PM

Of course could just keep posting here and let allah run ahuck

William Amos on January 1, 2008 at 9:26 PM

Yeah, less work for AP. Huck’s almost always just a cut-n-paste away from hilarity…

Wind Rider on January 1, 2008 at 9:31 PM

Heh well The GOOD news is that Iowa is over by Friday so we get past the first polls

And in the end, it still doesn’t disprove the fact that Alf should have been elected in ‘88.

Didnt Rooseveldt defeat Alf in the 1936 Election also ?

William Amos on January 1, 2008 at 9:32 PM

AllahPundit,I enjoyed this interlude between
comments,and the chick distance markers with
their black and white spikes was a bonus.

canopfor on January 1, 2008 at 9:36 PM

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 9:16 PM

Okay, I accept that. But let me make the distinction this way. Fred tells me why it is good for me to vote for him, so he speaks to my value system. I want to know why he wants me to vote for him what is his value system. Now he has said that it is the sight of his daughter at the top of the stairs, and that he wants to leave a better world for her. That’s fine. That makes sense and it resonates with me, but do you see my point about the two different points of view he is speaking to? In this video, you are encouraging me to take the first and also apply that to the second. I’ll operate off of that assumption until such a time he (if) answers the question, but there are not the same. That was the first question I had about Fred long before I knew anything about him.

Spirit is every bit as anti-Fred as csdeven or tommylotto.

Dude. I am critical of him, yes. But if you go back through the vaults I have also said that I think he maybe the best candidate of them all, though I prefer another as you likely remember. That doesn’t make me anti-Fred, I just like to go in with my eyes open. You want me to tear into Huckabee? or Rudy? or Mitt, who I have also been similarly critical of on this site? The only thing that I’m really “anti” with feeling is the comparisons to previous statesmen that people throw up here all the time.

btw, your comment the other day re: Fred and pushing the base toward a more conservative position was the best rational I’ve read yet for a vote for Fred. I hate to say something nice, lol but it’s true.

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Posted this on the News Headlines NRO piece before I saw this thread. Now I’ll try it here:

Please, you Romney fans, tell me something. How do we win the election with the Republican version of John Kerry? Romney has flip flopped on more issues than Kerry. I can’t defend him. All these Republican supporters of Romney who want to go into the genral election with Romeny cannot believe we can win with him. NO WAY!!! Are you trying to out liberal Hillary? It will never happen. Please share how we can win with a flip flopper.

Full disclosure: I will caucus for Fred on Jan. 3.

OT
I just took a call from the Obama campaign (they all call) and they asked if we were going to caucus for Obama. I said no we were caucusing for Thompson. He said “Who? Thompson? You are the first one I’ve talked to that said that.” I bet I am if he’s calling Democrats. He asked for my daughter. She moved to New Jersey!

Terri on January 1, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 9:23 PM

No worries.

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Plato was right. Thompson is the man.

Metro on January 1, 2008 at 9:41 PM

I just took a call from the Obama campaign (they all call) and they asked if we were going to caucus for Obama. I said no we were caucusing for Thompson. He said “Who? Thompson? You are the first one I’ve talked to that said that.” I bet I am if he’s calling Democrats. He asked for my daughter. She moved to New Jersey!

Terri on January 1, 2008 at 9:40 PM

It’s gotta be God-awful unreal living in Iowa right now.

wccawa on January 1, 2008 at 9:43 PM

A civilized respectful gentleman at that.

doriangrey on January 1, 2008 at 9:26 PM

Indeed. And this, coming from you, is also very gentlemanly. Not kidding you. She’s very serious, sincerely,

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 9:45 PM

Voting Fred… as I’m sick of politicians who’s stance is determined by the polls.

That especially includes the liberals disguised as republicans (Romney, Huckabee, and Rudy).

Man… I almost wish Ron Paul wasn’t such a pussy on foreign affairs. I’m more libertarian at heart… maybe Glenn Beck should run. He’s a Republitarian….

BadBrad on January 1, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Should open a thread allah and let us do a spot poll. We would log into the thread and tell who we are backing then tally the votes

Could be the hotair caucus. Ask everyone to vote

William Amos on January 1, 2008 at 9:50 PM

Oh, AP, I can only imagine how much fun you have whipping the commenters around with your fluctuating candidate enthusiasms…

Vizzini on January 1, 2008 at 9:51 PM

William Amos, except for the (futile) exercise, what good would that be for?

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 9:51 PM

William Amos, except for the (futile) exercise, what good would that be for?

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 9:51 PM

Snark! Hits! Traffic!

wccawa on January 1, 2008 at 9:52 PM

Sweet.

I think I’m guilty of crimes against conservatism, don’t you?

Allahpundit on January 1, 2008 at 9:01 PM

No, as I’ve stated previously, you just come across as being a jerk and it undermines your credibility.

Happy New Year.

Weber48IDA on January 1, 2008 at 9:54 PM

wccawa, sure, and perhaps the demand for Kübler-Ross books increases…

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 9:54 PM

William Amos, except for the (futile) exercise, what good would that be for?

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 9:51 PM

Might make some of us that don’t get a vote until it is all but over feel a little better.

conservnut on January 1, 2008 at 9:55 PM

It’s gotta be God-awful unreal living in Iowa right now.

wccawa on January 1, 2008 at 9:43 PM

We don’t answer the phone unless it is a name or number we recognize most of the time. Once in a while I like messing with them. I took a call from the Richardson people yesterday. They asked if I would caucus for him and I said no I’m voting for Thompson. They said would I consider him as my number 2. I didn’t bother explaining to her you can’t change parties for your number 2.

Everyone must understand that the polls don’t matter because only the people who bother to go to the caucus will vote. In the Republican caucus your vote counts. In the Democrat caucus your vote doesn’t really matter. The Democrat caucus is a brokered deal. That is why I think Hillary will win. She paid off Vilsack and he made all the deals he needed to in the party to make sure she wins. The Clintons spent that money to win the caucus.

Terri on January 1, 2008 at 9:55 PM

Weber, I’m convinced you and a few others forget that you/we’re all guests here. Couldn’t you have made a point, even if a critical one, without being a jerk? Oh, the irony.

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 9:55 PM

You want me to tear into Huckabee? or Rudy? or Mitt, who I have also been similarly critical of on this site? The only thing that I’m really “anti” with feeling is the comparisons to previous statesmen that people throw up here all the time.

btw, your comment the other day re: Fred and pushing the base toward a more conservative position was the best rational I’ve read yet for a vote for Fred. I hate to say something nice, lol but it’s true.

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 9:38 PM

No I don’t want you to tear into anyone. I have been opposed to that kind of behavior all along. What I want is reasonable civilized discourse between mature adults regarding the strengths and weakness of each candidate.

I passionately hate the intellectually devoid manner so many have parroted the despicable MSM talking points which avoid any discussion of substantive issues. Fred is lazy and has no fire in his belly, Mitt is a Mormon, Rudy wears a dress all disgust me.

Oh and my sincerest apologies for mistaking you for a man.

doriangrey on January 1, 2008 at 9:57 PM

Spirit is every bit as anti-Fred as csdeven
doriangrey on January 1, 2008 at 9:26 PM

dorian, that is BS. Spirit is the fairest commenter here. He demands the same of each and every candidate.

Buddy, you and I are the last people in the world who have the room to criticize anyone for partisan politics. We are both very passionate in our respective causes. Fred just so happens to be the flavor of the day right now. He has the most potential to turn this primary season on it’s ear. I’d submit that AP WANTS Fred to win because of all the buzz it would generate. Can you imagine? It would go down as the biggest primary upset in many, many, years. Especially if none of the front runners have a Howard Dead moment at the last minute.

csdeven on January 1, 2008 at 9:57 PM

No, as I’ve stated previously, you just come across as being a jerk and it undermines your credibility.

Happy New Year.

Weber48IDA on January 1, 2008 at 9:54 PM

I just noticed your “previously” – that proves that your hosts have way more class than you do, repeatedly.

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 9:57 PM

Attributes of your typical politician.
· Smarminess
· Pandering
· Hat wearing
· Eagerness
Fred displays none of these. He is a real straight talker but doesn’t claim title to the “Straight Talk Express”
He does however display other traits that we wish all politicians would have.
· Candor
· Common sense
· Conservatism

TheSitRep on January 1, 2008 at 10:00 PM

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 9:38 PM

I think it is a valid question, but I don’t have an answer for it other than what you see in the video (which partially answers the question). I know a lot of candidates have wanted to be president for years and years and probably couldn’t really tell you why. From what I can tell, that is not the case with Thompson. I’ll look around if I find something, I will try to remember to post it on a thread you are commenting on.

I remember, I think it was on a Sunday Morning Show, that the question was asked and he answered it the same way he did in the video. Why someone embarks on any big undertaking is always a very personal and often complicated thing so you might never get an answer that will fully satisfy your desire in this case.

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 10:01 PM

AP probably used to shoot rubberbands at the neighbors cat, I’m guessing.

Just a hunch.

Wind Rider on January 1, 2008 at 9:17 PM

And that is wrong why?

Now, if he shot rubber bands at dogs, that’s another story.

steveegg on January 1, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Weber48IDA,

You need to chill on trashing AP. Attack his position or ism but don’t attack him personally.

Thanks,
GW

TheSitRep on January 1, 2008 at 10:04 PM

He does however display other traits that we wish all politicians would have.
· Candor
· Common sense
· Conservatism

TheSitRep on January 1, 2008 at 10:00 PM

Sadly though while most conservatives claim to want these things in their leaders, few conservatives seem willing to follow anyone who actually shows a past record of having these qualities. Lot’s of claims but when the time comes to step up and own those claims few seem capable or willing to step up and own them.

doriangrey on January 1, 2008 at 10:07 PM

My thoughts are that if Fred can hang in (and place relatively well) during the first few big states, this might be a whole different ball game.

I don’t know if y’all have noticed, but he does seem to be warming up to this task lately.

Someone once posted; “Fred. It’s inevitable.”

I honestly can see that possibility.

wccawa on January 1, 2008 at 10:08 PM

And that is wrong why?

Now, if he shot rubber bands at dogs, that’s another story.

steveegg on January 1, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Consider yourself warned. AP has cat. Also, no man/woman who doesn’t respect animals, is a real man/woman.

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 10:08 PM

William Amos, except for the (futile) exercise, what good would that be for?

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 9:51 PM

Well Allah has been talking about Fredheads so just curious who is a fredhead (amoung others. Wonder if there are any Hickhucks in here ?)

I wonder if this blog is more conservative than say Iowa. IF so then that might explain why Fred is doing so badly. Maybe we are the problem ?

William Amos on January 1, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Should open a thread allah and let us do a spot poll.

William Amos on January 1,2007 at 9:50PM.

William Amos:Brilliant Idea,it would be my only chance
to vote!

canopfor on January 1, 2008 at 10:11 PM

I have been opposed to that kind of behavior all along. What I want is reasonable civilized discourse between mature adults regarding the strengths and weakness of each candidate…I passionately hate the intellectually devoid manner so many have parroted the despicable MSM talking points which avoid any discussion of substantive issues.

I do too. Which (this may come as a shock!) is why I like CS. The first time I chatted with him, he called my challenge to his statement a strawman. I thought, no…it’s genuine so I reworded it to make it more plain. It made sense to him for a different angle and I’ve been able to have a completely frank conversation with him on every candidate since then. I understand that not everyone else has that same experience with him, but there are several people here that I think have good insights and are worth the trouble of wading through the comments to talk to. Even if there weren’t though, I’d come here everyday because I think AP’s analysis is generally very sharp.

Oh and my sincerest apologies for mistaking you for a man.

I believe Entelechy was refering to herself with that pronoun, unless she knows something I don’t ;)

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 10:11 PM

William, on the left side are two loooooong Fred-threads, with all the crazy-for-Freds in there, in naked, shameless exposé. Also a few on the right side.

Also, it doesn’t matter how this blog or others compare to Iowa. Blogs will not decide any state.

Thus my “exercise in futility” comment. Not being adversarial toward you, just checking reality.

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 10:12 PM

I believe Entelechy was refering to herself with that pronoun, unless she knows something I don’t ;)

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 10:11 PM

I was referring to myself…too much hard…liquor…dorian…now I am kidding :)

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Does anyone know if there has been a list put together of all the candidates and their drawbacks, such as:

John McCain: Amnesty, McCain-Feingold, Gang of 14, Disdain for “Christian Right”, no executive experience…
Rudy Giuliani: Socially Liberal, gun control, Bernard Kerik…
Mitt Romney: Health Care, flip flop on abortion…
Mike Huckabee: foreign policy ignorance, high tax/high spend nanny stater, no executive experience
Fred Thompson: Spencer Abraham, no executive experience, (csdeven knows more of his drawbacks)

And then of course a similar list comparing each candidate’s positives.

I think this would be good just to keep focus on the issues that matter. I’m going to try to put something like this together this week, but I thought I would ask if it has already been done, with links to back up each claim.

The reason I ask, is because this small crib sheet is good to keep in mind through all the ups and downs of the polling and mass media stories. People seem to see one poll or see one positive or negative statement about a candidate and then that candidate either rises or falls in the polls… based on that one simple poll or story. Meanwhile, people seem to completely forget the big picture on each candidate.

What I have accumulated so far are folders full of links to stories, polls, blog entries, research, etc on each candidate saved in my favorites on Mozilla. I need to go through it all as there are probably hundreds of things I have saved. Before I did that though, I figured I would ask if this has been done already.

Michael in MI on January 1, 2008 at 10:14 PM

Hey Entelechy,Happy New Year,sounds like your piloting
an A-10 Warhog,and your on CAP.(Just Kidding,hehe.)

canopfor on January 1, 2008 at 10:14 PM

Reuters/Zogby 3-day tracking has Fred with a “mini-surge”. Should be fun Thursday night. Do the right think Iowans and toss Huckabear under the church van!

SouthernGent on January 1, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Sadly though while most conservatives claim to want these things in their leaders, few conservatives seem willing to follow anyone who actually shows a past record of having these qualities. Lot’s of claims but when the time comes to step up and own those claims few seem capable or willing to step up and own them.

doriangrey on January 1, 2008 at 10:07 PM

So true Doriangrey while great men are guide by there core principles politicians tend to be guided by expediency and opportunism.
People often judge a man against the back drop of there own morals and feel threatened by real decency and then will find virtue in the corrupt.

TheSitRep on January 1, 2008 at 10:15 PM

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 10:01 PM

Yes, and I’m not saying that it should matter to anyone other than myself. I am saying that that phrase caught my attention and perked me up to hear the answer. I don’t generally pry into why the candidates want the office, because that judgment is so subjective, but in Fred’s case he brought up the issue to me. That’s why I would appreciate the answer, he prepped me for it. In retrospect if he has no answer, it would have been better (for me) if he had just said ‘to leave a better world for our children’ in the first place.

csdeven on January 1, 2008 at 9:57 PM

Dang. Thanks for the compliment.

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Wonder if there are any Hickhucks in here ?)

William Amos on January 1, 2008 at 10:08 PM

A most excellent question. You kinda rocked my world with that one. I had not even considered it before.

Honestly, I have been hitting these threads for days (weeks?) and have yet to see a pro-Huck post. Of course, that might just be me, but…

He’s the front-runner?

A most excellent question.

wccawa on January 1, 2008 at 10:16 PM

I wonder if this blog is more conservative than say Iowa. IF so then that might explain why Fred is doing so badly. Maybe we are the problem ?

William Amos on January 1, 2008 at 10:08 PM

I think there are a lot of social conservatives in Iowa, this blog tends to lean conservative as far as security issues are conserned but, from what I can tell, libertarian as far as social issues are concerned. That is not that unusual for a “conservative” blog by the way.

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 10:17 PM

I wonder if this blog is more conservative than say Iowa. IF so then that might explain why Fred is doing so badly. Maybe we are the problem ?

William Amos on January 1, 2008 at 10:08 PM

I think most folks here a Conservatives in the Classical Liberal sense, i.e. Thomas Jefferson/Thomas Payne types.

An amalgamation of Christians, Jews , and more that a healthy dose of Naturalists.

TheSitRep on January 1, 2008 at 10:24 PM

Rudy Giuliani: Bernard Kerik

You reminded me of the one issue I have major problems with Guiliani with. His NY administration infected the Bush admin and caused a lot of the 2nd term troubles (non Iraq related) that hit Bush.

With the supreme court in our grasp Id hate to give Guiliani the nod. But now I have to wonder the same about McCain ? Anyone know what judges he has pushed for ?

William Amos on January 1, 2008 at 10:25 PM

Honestly, I have been hitting these threads for days (weeks?) and have yet to see a pro-Huck post. Of course, that might just be me, but…

wccawa on January 1, 2008 at 10:16 PM

I don’t think it’s just. I don’t recall ever seeing a pro-Huck post here.

flipflop on January 1, 2008 at 10:26 PM

That is not that unusual for a “conservative” blog by the way.

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 10:17 PM

That’s because most of us are libertarian in our thinking. Ronald Regan himself was a card carring member.

I have considered myself a conservative my whole life. But when it gets right down to it, most of my leanings on social issues are libertarian.

conservnut on January 1, 2008 at 10:26 PM

I don’t think it’s just. I don’t recall ever seeing a pro-Huck post here.

flipflop on January 1, 2008 at 10:26 PM

I don’t think it’s just you, even. Yeesh…can’t type tonight.

flipflop on January 1, 2008 at 10:27 PM

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 10:15 PM

And I’m sorry to have to ask this about you, but I want to be accurate. Male or female?

csdeven on January 1, 2008 at 10:29 PM

I believe Entelechy was refering to herself with that pronoun, unless she knows something I don’t ;)

Spirit of 1776 on January 1, 2008 at 10:11 PM

OK, that’s what I thought. I really should read the entire thread before commenting, but I usually get sidetracked from the original thread topic when I do that.

csdeven on January 1, 2008 at 10:35 PM

After the Goldwater defeat in 1964 It was like the Republican party was afraid of its conservative roots. Sure Reagan could win in California but the party turned to Nixon and later Ford and even Nelson Rockefeller.

It took Reagan in 1980 to teach the republicans that being conservative wasnt the problem the problem was the Republicans were too afraid to defend conservatism for fear of losing.

Reagan showed that the problem wasnt with the issues it was with the way republicans didnt stand up for its principles. The idea got into their heads that the Aermican people wouldnt back conservative values in the face of the massive buyout plan the dems have for the american public

Reagan showed that giving the government money doesnt mean that the people are better off. It just means that the government has more money to waste.

Now we are facing that same crossroads again. Some want to win the whitehouse by saying we need to elect the most electible. Because the American people dont want conservativism right now.

But that isnt true. For the past several years the republican party had turned from its principles to become faux conservatives who were more interested in getting re elected and not in their values. And the cost was they got thrown out anyways.

There are issues the right can win on. We just need the right messanger who cant be taken off message by democratic promises. So we really have to ask ourselves who is willing to stand up for what they believe in ?

William Amos on January 1, 2008 at 10:35 PM

Michael in MI on January 1, 2008 at 10:14 PM

Great idea!

csdeven on January 1, 2008 at 10:39 PM

sounds like your piloting
an A-10 Warhog,and your on CAP.(Just Kidding,hehe.)

canopfor on January 1, 2008 at 10:14 PM

Heh, I prefer not to perform air patrol, but rather pilot them myself, though Beechcrafts/Cherokees.

Too bad you can’t vote here. We need more like you. Glad you’re on HA and also a Happy New Year.

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Hey.

Entelechy on January 1,2008 at 10:43PM.

Entelechy:Nice to hear from you again,I didn’t know
you flew.My dad was a private pilot,he owned
a Globe Swift,dual controls,wing tips.

canopfor on January 1, 2008 at 10:50 PM

BTW, speaking of the Huckster, that photo on Drudge is priceless. Who’s his campaign manager these days, anyway?

wccawa on January 1, 2008 at 10:51 PM

BTW, speaking of the Huckster, that photo on Drudge is priceless. Who’s his campaign manager these days, anyway?

wccawa on January 1, 2008 at 10:51 PM

Rollins

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 10:53 PM

canopfor, indeed, and interesting stories, but OT and not for here. Just of note – puts me in that .001% in a group :) Unrelated, you stay right here to cheer us on for 2008, and because you’re a joy.

I don’t recall ever seeing a pro-Huck post here.

flipflop on January 1, 2008 at 10:26 PM

Do you recall one on anyone else? They’re usually not pro/con anyone. They just are, and then we make them into whatever…

Entelechy on January 1, 2008 at 10:56 PM

Rollins

bnelson44 on January 1, 2008 at 10:53 PM

Huh.

After the past week, I figured they would have shot him by now.

wccawa on January 1, 2008 at 10:56 PM

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