The obligatory “anti-war lawyer keys Marine’s car” post

posted at 1:15 pm on December 31, 2007 by Allahpundit

Any tort lawyers out there still trying to get into heaven and willing to donate a little time to that end?

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I’m sure one of those big law firms who did all the pro-bono work for the Gitmo detainees will send someone right over.

see-dubya on December 31, 2007 at 1:20 PM

Hard to comment and be civil, I will try. Dis-Bar and lock that miserable excuse for a lawyer up!

infidel on December 31, 2007 at 1:26 PM

Scum is an understatement. Surely there are some attorneys out there who will donate their time to help this Marine. This is an outrage.

katieanne on December 31, 2007 at 1:34 PM

Furthermore, IMO, this doesn’t say much for the Illinois States Attorneys either. Must be looking out for their own. Guess hate crimes don’t apply to those in the military being attacked by lawyers.

katieanne on December 31, 2007 at 1:36 PM

I saw this last night and have been sending it out to everyone I know. (Sent it to Bryan this am and also to the HA tips)

I hope he gets disbarred.

Talon on December 31, 2007 at 1:40 PM

That’s disgraceful. Lawyer’s lucky that Marines are so well disciplined and gentlemanly. He do that to a gang member and he’d get a beat down.

What the email address of the Illinois offices for the DA, etc? This is absolutely unacceptable for a so-called professional.

My thoughts and prayers are with this Marine as he’s deployed. He’s the one in this fight that I absolutely support.

mjk on December 31, 2007 at 1:49 PM

Marines have a long tradition of taking care of their own.

Wade on December 31, 2007 at 1:50 PM

Well, an actual scum-sucking bottom dweller and by that I don’t mean a bullhead.

Dusty on December 31, 2007 at 1:51 PM

Attorney General’s office link:
http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/

tickleddragon on December 31, 2007 at 1:54 PM

Email link: for general comments:

http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/about/email_ag.jsp

tickleddragon on December 31, 2007 at 1:55 PM

What’s a few minutes research for a good cause!!

tickleddragon on December 31, 2007 at 1:55 PM

Outside sanctions, lawyers can be disciplined by four methods by their respective bar associations:

(In order of least severe to most severe)
1. Private Reprimand
2. Public Reprimand
3. Probationary period not allowed to practice law
4. Disbarment

However, most of these are resevered for lawyers who put their clients in some form of liability, break criminal laws in the course of their representation, and (least severe) endanger the image of lawyers generally. This is not a concrete rule however; lawyers can certainly be held liable for crimes not committed during the course of representation, it just matters which law was broken.

In my personal opinion, I don’t think it’s likely he’ll be punished by the bar association. The civil liability would probably be found to be sufficient. However, I’m only in my second year of law school so I could be wrong; and yes, he’s scum and he makes the profession look bad. Have some professional demeanor for God’s sake.

Meric1837 on December 31, 2007 at 1:57 PM

Well the first wave of payback has already begun: googling “Jay R. Grodner” returns nothing but angry blog entries about the incident. That’s not gonna help business!

Hannibal Smith on December 31, 2007 at 1:57 PM

It really steams me that this jerk would claim anti-semitism. I’m adding him to my list of people I wish weren’t Jewish.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on December 31, 2007 at 1:58 PM

The Marine should do with the keys to that lawyer what Denzel did with the explosive to that corrupt cop in “Man on Fire”

TheSitRep on December 31, 2007 at 1:59 PM

That lawyer is an Anti-Marinite.

TheSitRep on December 31, 2007 at 2:00 PM

I wonder how Jay R. Grodner would like it if somebody keyed up his car. Since he’s a lawyer, I’m betting he has a nice car too.

SoulGlo on December 31, 2007 at 2:20 PM

The Marine should do with the keys to that lawyer what Denzel did with the explosive to that corrupt cop in “Man on Fire”

TheSitRep on December 31, 2007 at 1:59 PM

Now you’re talkin’!!

MrC_5150 on December 31, 2007 at 2:20 PM

Has anyone ever had a high opinion or respect for lawyers?

BL@KBIRD on December 31, 2007 at 2:22 PM

Much as I’d like to see charges pressed and this lawyer disbarred, it’s almost enough that he’s getting a (very) public humiliation.

otcconan on December 31, 2007 at 2:24 PM

BL@KBIRD on December 31, 2007 at 2:22 PM

Don’t let a few bad apples make you think the whole profession is corrupt. Most of the lawyers I know are very professional people. No one likes to see a bad lawyer get his due more than an honest lawyer. They made us memorize “To Kill a Mockingbird” for crying out loud!

My Legal Profession Professor: “Remember WWAFD, What Would Atticus Finch Do?”

Meric1837 on December 31, 2007 at 2:30 PM

What makes it OK for liberals to outside the law to get their version of peoples justice?
Just because they don’t respect the law doesn’t mean laws don’t apply to them.

The Bar association should take care of this major a-hole, he’s an officer of the court and subject to a higher standard of conduct.

Or

The Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission, an agency of the Illinois Supreme Court, is responsible for maintaining current records of registration and discipline information for lawyers licensed to practice in Illinois, investigating allegations of misconduct by lawyers, and prosecuting the cases where a lawyer’s misconduct suggests a threat to the public or to the integrity of the legal profession.

http://www.iardc.org/

Speakup on December 31, 2007 at 2:33 PM

Keying the “gentleman’s” car, while emotionally satisfying, would be the wrong thing to do.

So would filling a squirt gun with brake cleaner and using it to write uncomplimentary things on his car. Brake cleaner’ll eat right through paint, you know, so don’t do it.

Seriously, retaliatory acts of vandalism would weaken the case for real justice (via the state Bar Associaion and/or Attorney General). If and only if those avenues failed would there be any justification at all for evening things up.

KCSteve on December 31, 2007 at 2:40 PM

it’s almost enough that he’s getting a (very) public humiliation.

Bet this jerk will take this “humiliation” as a badge of honor.

chewydog on December 31, 2007 at 2:50 PM

The true colors of the left, they use the land of free to despise and p*ss on our brave.

christophercube on December 31, 2007 at 3:06 PM

“The state told Mike (the marine) that it was not worth pursuing felony damage against Grodner (the douche) because they don’t have the time. In addition, the state prosecutors told him (the marine) it ‘would be difficult to recover the damages’ from Grodner (the douche) because he is a lawyer.”

Translation: we parasites protect our own – even when it’s a douchebag parasite who needs his @ass kicked.

So, BlackFive’s conclusion of “We can win this one clean and fair – one way or another…” is erroneous. A Lawyer’s parasite’s main function is not to facilitate justice, but to provide a steady flow of BIG BUCKS into the wallet.

The wronged marine’s best recourse is probably small claims court because a monetary judgment is the only thing lawyers parasites understand.

locomotivebreath1901 on December 31, 2007 at 3:12 PM

This is exactly the kind of case that punitive damages were invented for. Illinois still allows them. Loads of lawyer would volunteer to take his on.

tmitsss on December 31, 2007 at 3:18 PM

Jay R. Grodner’s name has got to stay in the limelight. To forget about Jay R. Grodner and Jay R. Grodner’s actions toward a member of the United States Military would be a disservice to Jay R. Grodner. What Jay R. Grodner stands for, should be shouted from the highest mountain. Jay R. Grodner took the time to educate Jay R. Grodner on his way to become the lawyer that Jay R. Grodner is today, so Jay R. Grodner’s opinion must obviously have firm grounding. Everyone in the Chicago area (where Jay R. Grodner practices law) should stop in to see Jay R. Grodner and acknowledge what Jay R. Grodner has done. In fact, people should write the local papers of Chicagoin Jay R. Grodner to let everyone possible know what Jay R. Grodner did to a Marine going back to fight for Jay R. Grodner’s freedom. I’ll bet Jay R. Grodner is real proud of Jay R. Grodner. Oh ya, the gentleman’s name is JAY R. GRODNER.

oakpack on December 31, 2007 at 3:26 PM

Classic example of Democrats supporting the troops.

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on December 31, 2007 at 3:37 PM

Attorney Jay Grodner has HAD a website. Its been taken down. However, Google cache still has part of it. The website cache includes addresses and phone numbers for his offices:

This is Google’s cache of http://www.jaygrodner.com/Jay%20Grodner.htm as retrieved on Oct 4, 2007 08:35:55 GMT.

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:QBGs4iQ3yGgJ:jaygrodner.com/index.htm+Jay+Grodner&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:xZTVvXUOh74J:www.jaygrodner.com/Jay%2520Grodner.htm+Jay+Grodner&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

Man, I love Google cache

SilverStar830 on December 31, 2007 at 4:09 PM

Doe not the advice of the Illinois State Attorney’s Office to the harmed marine, that he accept the douche bags off and swindle his insurance company out of the damages border on fraud. Let’s say he was to accept the cheap a$$ lawyers idea who is going to pay for the increased insurance premiums for at least the next 7 yrs…maybe Mr. Jay R. Grodner was going to pay the increase…what nice, low life, blood sucking, parasite he is.

Ba&tard!

oldernslower on December 31, 2007 at 4:15 PM

Doe not the advice of the Illinois State Attorney’s Office to the harmed marine, that he accept the douche bags off and swindle his insurance company out of the damages border on fraud.

oldernslower on December 31, 2007 at 4:15 PM

Funny you should mention “fraud” when speaking of Attorney Jay Robert Grodner… he has a past of standing accused of fraud against his clients:

http://www.clr.org/fraud.html

http://www.clr.org/Grodner-Jay.html

HAHA! …and here’s his profile from an internet Web Dating service.

OY!

SilverStar830 on December 31, 2007 at 4:32 PM

Actually, I think the Marine should have accepted the offer of the douche (Jay R. Grodner) paying the insurance deductable. The insurance company could then use their lawyers to go after the douche (Jay R. Grodner) for the remainder.

rmgraha on December 31, 2007 at 4:43 PM

This guy’s website :
jaygrodner.com
is down.

Anyone care to hazard a guess as to why? :P

Ryan Gandy on December 31, 2007 at 5:34 PM

Maybe Rush Limbaugh will get wind of this. It sounds like something right up his alley. A couple of comments from Rush and this guy would definitely get his 15 minutes. On a lesser scale O’Reilly might send Jesse Waters to ambush the him.

Oldnuke on December 31, 2007 at 5:54 PM

All right, I emailed this guy and told him where I stood on the issue.

It’ll probably bounce back on account of his mailbox being full.

Ryan Gandy on December 31, 2007 at 6:04 PM

Small Claims Court. Him, the scumbag, the Judge, and his witnesses to include the Police Officers. Go for the full amount plus court costs. There is no way he would lose the small claims court unless the judge is crooked.

PrettyD_Vicious on December 31, 2007 at 7:51 PM

Is there no way that someone can act on a serviceman’s behalf while he’s deployed?

This requires another “John and Ken”-esque campaign, like they did with the Trevor Law Group.

There are some things rats won’t do, indeed.

Nosferightu on December 31, 2007 at 9:08 PM

A few things:

Each county in Illinois has an elected State’s Atorney, they are not “Illinois State’s Attorneys”. In this matter, it would be the Cook County State’s Attorney responsible for the prosecution. The update at B5′s article relates that the ASA (Assistant State’s Attorney) who has this matter is on the ball.

Please do not contact the Illinois Attorney General, as they really don’t have much to do with criminal matters (the names in this State, for our offices, are deceiving). When I was an ASA (NOT in Cook County, ha!) we used to have folks from the AG come to us for a little while as part of a program to do any kind of misdemeanor or traffic trial they could get their hands on, so as to preserve some of their skills…

major john on January 1, 2008 at 9:57 AM

Is this the guy?

Jay R. Grodner
Law Offices of Jay R. Grodner
Principal Office-Deerfield
625 Deerfield Road –Suite 406
Deerfield, IL 60015
Phone: (847) 444-1500
Fax: (847) 444-0663

Downtown Chicago
30 N. LaSalle St. – Suite 1210
Chicago, IL 60602
Phone: (312) 236-1142
Fax: (312) 236-6036

Email: jayrg8@aol.com
Web: http://www.jaygrodner.com

Godless liberals have no shame.

DannoJyd on January 1, 2008 at 11:46 AM