Well, they would say that, wouldn’t they, if they were the ones who pulled her back into the limo so roughly that she cracked her skull on the way down, dontcha think?

JM Hanes on December 30, 2007 at 3:45 AM

You can watch the clearest video to date on YouTube of BB’s assination. So clear you can even see the effects of the bullets hitting her, and see her drop BEFORE the blast.

How the hell could an autopsy NOT be done?

drjohn on December 30, 2007 at 1:15 PM

We’re not talking about American rules here. They have their own.

The grip angle looks too obtuse – Tokarevs have an almost right-angled grip. The last time I saw a Tokarev on the news, it was being pointed at Daniel Pearl’s head.

Dead is dead.

No, I don’t see it that way. If they pulled on her, it would have been in response to the blast…and it would not have been necessary to pull her as the concussive forces would have done the job.

I don’t feel the need to go traipsing off in the weeds scrutinizing every single detail. I’ve looked at the available (to the public) evidence, weighed her companions statements, noted the spin(s) coming from the authorities and drawn my conclusions as to what was the most probable series of events.

The fact is, she’s dead and things will most likely get worse, before they get better. Relatively speaking of course because PakiWakiLand is a seriously messed up place.

Well, they would say that, wouldn’t they, if they were the ones who pulled her back into the limo so roughly that she cracked her skull on the way down, dontcha think?

How can I say this with such conviction you might ask? Because there were two people in the Limo, and each one says that she dropped through the roof opening an instant BEFORE the blast, and that she was bleeding profusely.

It serves no purpose to wank about: site pictures, number of shots, did he, or didn’t he miss…etc. etc. The facts speak for themselves. She is dead, and the PakiWaki’s are muddying the water after the fact.

Sheesh!

And SPOR might have nailed the make of the piece. The Tokarev is a Colt ripoff, and a fine one.

I wouldn’t assume that. If you look at suicide bombers in Iraq, for example, they have basically been newbie cannon fodder imported through Syria who were quickly handed off to the folks up front to do their bit for the cause. I’m not sure the pool of potential recruits is really all that big.

In any case, if you look at the SkyNews video in full screen mode, it doesn’t look as though the gun is actually aimed directly at Bhutto. It looks more like the guy is just raising his gun up high enough to shoot over the crowd in her general direction. Aside from the difficulty of shooting one handed while being jostled as well, it’s conceivable that he didn’t have a terribly good line of sight.

When I first saw the video, it thought the shooter was the man on the back of the car, but in full screen mode, it seems clear that he’s on the ground in the crowd (between the camera and the vehicle). You can see the end of his arm (with a little cuff showing) holding the gun and what may, or may not, be the back of his head. I’ve certainly got no forensic credentials, but it looks to me like the shots could easily have gone across the car between Bhutto and the ostensible bodyguard riding the fender.

Why the government would say she died from a knock on the noggin is an open question.

HerrMorgenholz on December 29, 2007 at 11:49 AM

A friend suggested this today: so she won’t get those coveted ‘martyr for Allah’ credits from the public.

I have to assume this guy was well trained given the mission. I shoot quite a bit, and I’m not going to miss at the 6 foot range he was working with.

HerrMorgenholz on December 29, 2007 at 12:04 PM

But then we’re assuming facts not in evidence.

As someone who also target shoots regularly, I agree that you and I are unlikely to miss at six feet. But you’ve surely seen other shooters who miss at even shorter distances — and they’re not hobbled by a moving target or a bustling crowd.

Unfortunately, this video shows the shooter only; it doesn’t show his target at the moment the shots are fired. Therefore, we don’t know whether the shooter acquired his target.

If she comes out of a cake at Hillarys inaugural, well then ya need a wake up call to get out of the bad dream your having, cause neither are gonna happen in real life. As the world continues on, Hillary’s combination of silence and opportune comment taking are all indicators of what she’s gonna do during any Presidency. You all won’t get a straight answer out of her in any shape or form like you do now. Who’s her running mate gonna be? hmm? and why the file releases not coming out until after the elections? hmmm?
Get with it people. Find another candidate, cause she isn’t it. I don’t even want to think what Billy boy would do in the White House again. What? Serve Micky D’s at her tea parties? Man what a scary pair. I hope everyone has learned a good lesson.

This conspiracy theory #100459, will be available at KOS and Rosie’s blog in 1, 2, 3… seconds. :-)

But a large exit wound on the right would fit perfectly with a shot (and smaller entrance wound) from the left.

Except that it looks nothing like an exit wound. There’s more than one fracture, and the main one is clearly an indentation, not an exit.

Mussharif better deal with this quick.

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