Fred reaches fundraising target for new ad? Update: Fred appeals to Fredheads to keep donating
posted at 1:19 pm on December 28, 2007 by Allahpundit
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According to the campaign site, with less than five hours to go they’re still $65,000 short. No matter, says Politico — somehow they came up with the balance and will be on the air tomorrow in major cities across Iowa. Can the dream of third place at last be within reach? Don’t stop believing, my friends.
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What do you think is important to NH GOP voters that Fred has not yet focused on?
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 4:22 PM
That’s a tad overheated opinion don’t you think?
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 4:22 PM
$233,308
bnelson44 on December 28, 2007 at 4:24 PM
They tend to be more liberal in NH.
bnelson44 on December 28, 2007 at 4:25 PM
Really?
Yeah, that’s really zeroing in on Fred there. Cut the crap. And now I wait for you to respond with “Waaaahhhh crybaby” and prove my point that when you get caught with a flaw in your argument, you become what you bemoan others being. Congratulations.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 4:25 PM
Only if his first name starts with “F, his middle name is “Dalton,” and his last name starts with “T.”
If not, I’m sitting this whole election out.
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 4:25 PM
Absolutely no offense meant, FR, but this rant reminds me of Liberals saying that Rush is only powerful when Dems are in power. Rush wants Dems to win so his show will get bigger.
Allah, and HotAir are successful on the Right side of the aisle because they bring us the information that we wouldn’t normally get from the MSM. Like Rush, but just more of it. I no more believe that Allah would switch sides to boost his business, than I believe you’d change your principles for money. Are you that weak in principles?
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:26 PM
Oh, cs, any mention of Fred is overheated to you. Bless your heart.
KelliD on December 28, 2007 at 4:26 PM
Anyone here from New Hampsire, or understand their politics? I’m guessing that illigal immigration is not so important to them yet, because there hasn’t been much impact in the state. Also, they might think the WOT is a waste of money, and we should hide from the world ala Paul?
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 4:27 PM
True enough. However, occasionally I see someone indicating their mind is being affected by his “sadistic fun” as you call it. Main reason I speak up is to avert this.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 4:27 PM
My God, Man… You are standing there, yelling at a brick wall. Take a deep breath, and talk to someone else.
Would it help if I insulted you in some way?? ;) (just kidding)
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:29 PM
Pot, meet kettle.
Oh, yeah, almost forgot…
KA-CHING!
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 4:29 PM
I completely understand what you’re trying to do. Honestly. I do.
But remember, we’re mostly intelligent folk on this site. People don’t take long in figuring out who the instigators are. Don’t nanny the newcomers. ;)
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:30 PM
$234,723
bnelson44 on December 28, 2007 at 4:30 PM
McCain ain’t doing much better.
bnelson44 on December 28, 2007 at 4:31 PM
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OK, but is it the Republicans in NH that are liberal? I would think a liberal would primary with the Dems.
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I would think “Don’t Tred On Me” Republicans would find Fred appealing.
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 4:31 PM
Blather, blather, blather…..
People like YOU start the name calling. They’ve been doing it since last summer when I first started exposing that sack of crap Fred for what he is. They acted like THEY were Fred and I personally insulted them. This is more lunacy from the Fredbots. They can’t separate themselves from the candidate. Just because you came in the middle of that doesn’t mean I started it. But I usually finish it, because just like your example, once a Fred loon exposes himself by attacking me for skewering Fred, I force them to defend their position. And when they cannot, they just shut up and wish they had never tangled with me. You are very close to that point. I figure another few days and you’ll realize that your credibility is in jeopardy because you have completely misread me. You’ll be doing all you can to gain a shred of credibility back. And that means staying out of my wheelhouse.
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 4:32 PM
It might…maybe call me a naughty boy or somethi-
Whoops. Got off topic there. ;)
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 4:32 PM
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 4:12 PM
You’re wasting your time. The best thing to do is ignore cs when he goes on his rants. It’s always the same thing from him – no substance, just anger and loathing. Ignore it.
jdawg on December 28, 2007 at 4:33 PM
SECOND LOOK AT MY LIGHT BILL!
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 4:34 PM
Whooole new thread there, Naughty Boy.
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:34 PM
I’ll do my best to listen to tickleddragon and realize that since you can’t notice your own pathetically ironic statements, you’re not worth a damn keystroke more.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 4:35 PM
Oh dear.
Hence why I took your advice. ;)
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 4:36 PM
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:21 PM
Exactly why I did not address him personally. I am new here, but not to the world. I’ve been around the block enough to recognize baiting when I see it.
leanright on December 28, 2007 at 4:36 PM
Awesome..now let’s talk about that new thread. ;) lol.
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:36 PM
Fixed it for you.
Gregor on December 28, 2007 at 4:36 PM
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Bwahahahaa!!!
News2Use on December 28, 2007 at 4:36 PM
See? Our newbies are smart folk! Welcome, leanright!
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:37 PM
That’s the best (and only) thing you can do where csdeven is concerned.
jdawg on December 28, 2007 at 4:37 PM
Could head over to my short-lived blog that I have failed to touch in weeks…right after I hang my head in shame over realizing it.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 4:37 PM
It considerably cuts down on your reading. :)
Sammy316 on December 28, 2007 at 4:38 PM
+1. That argument is absurd.
Spirit of 1776 on December 28, 2007 at 4:39 PM
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 4:40 PM
Great question without a great answer.
The bad rap laid on Southerners, rednecks, Spam eating TT, Hicks, etc is the bar fight scene. You know that scene of ‘you talkin to me? *KAPOW*’ crud. Doesn’t happen that way in the south. The first weapon is ‘cornpone’. The ‘cornpone’ has a purpose, and that purpose is to avoid *KAPOW*, believe it or not. It helps keep fists unclenched and ears open.
Instead of jumping up, and grabbing some fella by the horns,
we make a word game out of it. Sorta a battle of wits instead of fists. Most ‘cornpone’ can be taken two ways…..as a finger in the face, or as a wink of the eye. It is a gentlemanly way of not being a gentleman.
So what does that have to do with ‘conservativism’? It is simple…..you have your space, I have mine. I won’t get into your business as long as you stay out of mine. You know, like forcing taxes, abortion, loose morals, down our throats. Libs do that stuff. Conservatives just shake their head and keep on doing things their own way. It is when someone(libs) try to stop em that is when *KAPOW* becomes a legitimate response.
Did I make any sense? Didn’t think so.
So much for Trinity river logic. You guys can now send me ‘packin’.
Limerick on December 28, 2007 at 4:41 PM
Will you two get a room or something? There are CHILDREN here! Won’t you think of the children?
Sheesh.
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 4:41 PM
I’ve had sort of a Goldilocks-type experience with political blogs. I tried several for extended periods of time before settling on Hot Air as my favorite, where I spend the bulk of my time online. I would go to a handful of blogs each day, thinking “This one is too big; that one is too small; but Hot Air is juuust right!” And not just size-wise, either–in many ways, Hot Air (its writers, commenters, all of it) is just right for me. That’s why it really disappoints me so much that just one commenter can diminish my personal enjoyment of this site so much.
Here’s another analogy. Imagine that we have paid admission to see a movie that we’ve been looking forward to. We know the critics are panning it and that it’s been a disappointment at the box office, but we want to see it anyway. During the movie, some a$$hole at the front of the theater starts throwing popcorn at the screen and loudly jeering about how much he thinks it sucks and how stupid he thinks we all are for enjoying it. We tell him to leave and let us enjoy the show and each other’s company, but he just won’t stop. The show is ruined for everyone. Worst of all, the theater manager never does a thing about it, even when the a$$hole ruins several shows per week.
I’ll come back to the theater, because it’s still the best theater in town. I won’t leave a show being ruined by the a$$hole because I came to see the show and I think it’s the a$$hole who should leave, not me. But my enjoyment is significantly diminished whenever the management lets the a$$hole ruin a show the rest of us came to see and enjoy. I really, really resent this trend.
aero on December 28, 2007 at 4:41 PM
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Awesome
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 4:41 PM
$236,976
Getting closer. I expect to see cs and others go nuclear any second now.
jdawg on December 28, 2007 at 4:41 PM
I wish there was an “ignore” option here. It would be nice to just simply not have to see some people’s posts. Might get a tad confusing from time to time, but I think I could live with it.
Either that, or put people’s names at the TOP of the post, rather than the bottom, that way when we see a post by someone we don’t like, we can skip it before we get to the content of the post, rather than reading all the way through a troll post, get upset, and THEN see the troll’s name at the bottom.
Not pointing that at anyone in particular, since one man’s Troll is another man’s Longfellow. Just saying it would be nice if we could more easily filter out the “white noise” in these threads.
Cheers!
wearyman on December 28, 2007 at 4:42 PM
Thinkin’ about getting to work on some if she keeps it up…
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 4:44 PM
And which HA member did I specifically mention?
Start at the beginning of the discussion and you’ll see that it is you Fred loons who started the personal insults.
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 4:45 PM
Actually, I think the only button we’d need is one that says “Ignore csdeven.” I can’t think of anyone else I’d even remotely consider ignoring. Can you?
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 4:45 PM
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Exactly! I remember a common phrase when I was a kid was “It’s none of your business”! Men were regarded as islands of autonomy.
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 4:46 PM
Well said AERO!!! Very articulate and right on point!!! I doubt whether AP or little ol cs will get it though.
countywolf on December 28, 2007 at 4:46 PM
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 4:41 PM
Are you talking to me?
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:46 PM
It would overload the site.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 4:47 PM
No offense taken. My point was that I don’t know AP’s motives for what he does any more than he knows mine, so let’s stop making the accusations.
But regarding your other point, AllahPundit isn’t Rush. Rush is a conservative. Rush doesn’t attack the motives of conservatives and look forward to their disappointment. Rush has a massive audience that has already lived through a Democratic administration, HotAir hasn’t. I’m not trying to say that AP wants the Dems to win to increase his user base, I’m saying that I don’t know what drives him any more than he knows what drives me.
FloatingRock on December 28, 2007 at 4:48 PM
$10K to go.
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 4:49 PM
Oh my. HotAir gets it’s first true porn thread. ROFL.
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:49 PM
So, you start the name calling and I don’t get to respond.
Riiiiight.
Tell you what whackjob, in the next Fred thread, try sticking to the topic and make no mention of little old csdeven and see how many times I personally attack you. It doesn’t happen (well, maybe rarely). But I can promise you this, once you start it, I WILL finish it.
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 4:49 PM
Pssst… watch Madison REAL close. He’s got a crush on you!
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 4:49 PM
Just who do you think HA’s readership is? Kindergarteners? And I think it’s a lot larger than you presume, as well.
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:50 PM
I’ve thought about that, too, but it wouldn’t really be effective. I do ignore many troll/threadjacker comments, but I’m still faced with all the quotes of and responses to the threadjacker, so I’m still forced to become aware of the person’s presence and nastiness in a thread I’m trying to follow.
aero on December 28, 2007 at 4:51 PM
$9K to go….
Kokonut on December 28, 2007 at 4:51 PM
I need to address this point. I wasn’t trying to say that AP would switch sides, I was using that as an example to point out that HotAir isn’t just a content site, it’s a Republican/conservative content site and that if that changed, HotAir wouldn’t be the same. I wasn’t trying to imply that AP would switch sides.
FloatingRock on December 28, 2007 at 4:52 PM
I tend to think that motives are as unique as fingerprints. Here at HA, we are all privileged to share as much or as little about our motives as we wish.
The most innocent/sincere thing we say or believe can get challenged, if not ridiculed, or outright disdained. However, if there weren’t tough challenges here, then we wouldn’t learn much. This is a place to influence and be influenced. It’s a circus, and it’s a classroom. If our beliefs are true, they’ll hold up under the assault. If someone with more knowledge can teach us differently, then our knowledge will grow.
AP makes all this happen. He may have a ruthless side, but all great teachers do.
RushBaby on December 28, 2007 at 4:52 PM
Thanks a lot! Ruining all the fun. Party pooper.
:-)
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 4:52 PM
SHHHHHHH!
I was gonna put a note in her locker, I don’t want her knowing it was from me!
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 4:52 PM
Limerick…. thanks for the explanation. My question was more directed towards “why is the South the epitome of conservatism, and the Mountain West ignored?” I agree, the South is conservative…. but so is the cowboy, independant, self-reliant west motif. And we don’t usually have the southern racial baggage that comes along with “The south shall rise again!” thing.
I guess I’m just baffled as to why the Western strain of conservatism is pretty much ignored (aside from the “texas” types.. but they are more south than west in my opinion).
Cheney’s from Wyoming…. and most conservatives love the guy, if only because the leftists have heart failure when he speaks. Why not look for more of that?
Vanceone on December 28, 2007 at 4:53 PM
Whaddaya know, trolling the blog sites DOES payoff. LOL.
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:53 PM
You go right ahead and put that note in… I didn’t hear a word of it.
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:54 PM
AP’s boss is Michelle Malkin. You may not know what drives him, though it seems relatively obvious to me, but perhaps you could just trust her record enough not to allude to ulterior motives.
Spirit of 1776 on December 28, 2007 at 4:54 PM
Absolutely spot on.
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:55 PM
I appreciate the effort, but the problem I see is that I find myself not only skipping CSD’s comments but yours as well. Step back into the light, MadisonConservative. :)
FloatingRock on December 28, 2007 at 4:55 PM
I think 3rd place is a good place to be until Super Tuesday. Let the frontrunners duke it out. When Fred gets too close the press dumps on him, just like they did when he was tied with Rudy. My only problem with the negative press is that most of it was either fabricated, or exagerated, or just unimportant (trophy wife, etc.).
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 4:55 PM
I think the definitive defense has just been applied(and I reasonably think the same could be said about Bryan). Seriously people, lay off AP.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 4:57 PM
I’ll agree not to allude to ulterior motives if AllahPundit will return the favor, that’s my point. Thanks for helping me make it.
FloatingRock on December 28, 2007 at 4:57 PM
…but it burns! IT BURRRRNS!
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 4:58 PM
$7K to go! This was a thread about Fred raising money for an IA ad wasn’t it? I heard the kids fighting in the corner, though, and I wish they would take it outside.
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 4:59 PM
I’m gonna time it so my contribution is the one that puts him over the top.
TexasDan on December 28, 2007 at 4:59 PM
SECOND LOOK AT SELLING THE NEIGHBOR’S TRUCK BEFORE HE GETS HOME!
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 4:59 PM
Welcome back, Mad.
Oh, and yes, you do need to get back to that blogsite. tsk tsk, October?
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:59 PM
Dude. It is totally under control now. ;)
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 5:00 PM
Maybe that is because they are both a bunch of delusional whackadoos. The paulians think Paul is the only man capable of saving America with his crazy ideas and insane foreign policy so they spam on-line polls and give all their lunch money and allowances to him. The Fredbots are just as bad. They think Fred is the only true conservative and the only one who can save conservatism. Even though he is pro-choice, and he is currently third in Iowa, fifth nationally, and sixth behind Paul in New Hampshire. If he is conservatism’s savior, its deader than Bhutto!!
tommylotto on December 28, 2007 at 5:01 PM
Man, these are making me laugh…but is the next one going to be:
SECOND LOOK AT HOMELESS SHELTER
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 5:01 PM
Texan’s, mostly, do consider themselves Southerners and not Westerners. Now I could start a row at the local bar over that statement but basically I believe it to be true. I’m not educated enough to detail it out in a way that some here would like. There is one thing that is set in stone in the South, and this is probably the core of the ‘conservative’ notion, and that is States Rights. As a Southerner I know that phrase gets all twisted up with the slavery issue, but that is the truth. States Rights is a don’t tread on me argument and that is why the South stays conservative(IMO).
Limerick on December 28, 2007 at 5:02 PM
I’ll agree not to allude to ulterior motives if AllahPundit will return the favor, that’s my point. Thanks for helping me make it.
I get whst youre saying. I don’t see any ulterior motives here.
amish on December 28, 2007 at 5:02 PM
Dude, she digs your blog! Shhh…..
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 5:03 PM
That was thoroughly tacky. You know that, right?
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 5:03 PM
$6K to go….
Kokonut on December 28, 2007 at 5:05 PM
SECOND LOOK AT BEING IN DEBT TO THE POLISH MAFIA!
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 5:06 PM
I’d say I liked yours too, but somehow I feel like I’ll be branded as a blogslut. eek.
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 5:06 PM
I don’t understand your question…. Why would I think HA’s readership are kindergarteners?
FloatingRock on December 28, 2007 at 5:09 PM
Don’t tell her, but I’m pulling it out of the grave! Gonna slip my hyperlinked name into her locker next!
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 5:09 PM
Dude, she digs my blog!
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 5:09 PM
+1
RushBaby on December 28, 2007 at 5:10 PM
Brokeback Mountain killed that…
tommylotto on December 28, 2007 at 5:11 PM
Shhh… she’s gonna love it even more now. Heh. I’m moving in on you, loser. Let me show you how this is done.
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 5:12 PM
No, she digs MY blog!
*blogwars begin*
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 5:12 PM
There now. Don’t you feel better? The embarrassment I mentioned will set in once you realize that you were the one that started it and I was only responding to your original insults. But don’t fret it. I wont rub it in. As a matter of fact, we will probably have a tolerable discussion occasionally.
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 5:13 PM
Lim. Dude. We’re TEXANS. The west and south can ride our coattails if they make nice and worship our football teams.
TexasDan on December 28, 2007 at 5:15 PM
Wrong. Texans are neither. They are their own geopolitical and mental division of the country. That is becoming less so as the Lone Star State attracts population from the rest of the country, but a true Texan is in a class of his own — for better and/or worse.
tommylotto on December 28, 2007 at 5:15 PM
The “edit post” button is how I roll, boyyyy!
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 5:15 PM
$2 K to go, and where the hell is that CS/TL ignore buton!!!
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 5:15 PM
I am saving tidbits like this to remind you of your folly later.
But we shall see wont we?
TheSitRep on December 28, 2007 at 5:16 PM
$2K to go….
Hell, it’s over folks. Why bother with the countdown? I’m guessing it’ll get close to or over $300K
Kokonut on December 28, 2007 at 5:16 PM
Nope….ski resorts and the ’smooth soled boot’ hiking trail mentality killed it. Cheap land, pretty vistas, go back to the city when you get bored killed it. The Indian is Pan killed it. People who think mother nature is an amusement park killed it.
Limerick on December 28, 2007 at 5:17 PM
Dude. We’re TEXANS. The west and south can ride our coattails if they make nice and worship our football teams.
Texans are just people who werent tough enough to make it in TN.
amish on December 28, 2007 at 5:18 PM
Yep, just came in to say that it looks like he hits his goal…question though, when he says 6PM, does he mean 6PM east or 6PM in Iowa?
Bad Candy on December 28, 2007 at 5:18 PM
Well then it’s a good thing that you actually have to read AND then CHOOSE to be upset by a single random person on HA. I know I don’t miss a thing when I ignore certain persons diatribes. It’s a thing of beauty.
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 5:18 PM
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