Fred reaches fundraising target for new ad? Update: Fred appeals to Fredheads to keep donating
posted at 1:19 pm on December 28, 2007 by Allahpundit
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According to the campaign site, with less than five hours to go they’re still $65,000 short. No matter, says Politico — somehow they came up with the balance and will be on the air tomorrow in major cities across Iowa. Can the dream of third place at last be within reach? Don’t stop believing, my friends.
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206! big ten.
amend2 on December 28, 2007 at 3:01 PM
And little old csdeven gets to take credit for the entire amount donated to Jeri’s dress fund.
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 3:02 PM
Yeah, csdeven has referred several times to having sons in the military (at least one).
It’s odd, really–he’s actually pretty rational on most things. Just mention Mormonism or Fred, and he goes bonkers. On Mormons, he defends the religion (and I wish he didn’t sometimes, because it’s not in a way that is flattering) and on Fred, he has some bugaboo I can’t explain.
But his other comments are pretty rational and good. I don’t get it.
As for being a Mitt-en… I like Mitt. Tis true. He does some stuff I wish he didn’t, though. I’m not going to defend some of those things–he’s not perfect. Is he better than any of the rest? Yeah, he is.
Most of my posts, in truth, tend to come because people are using the campaign as a way to bash my faith. I’m still interested in politics, and I don’t want most of the Repub. candidates. Only Thompson, Hunter, and Romney are ones I could support.
A while ago I laid out my reasons why Fred doesn’t get my vote: or in other words the main issues I have with him. No Fred supporter ever responded.
1) No experience. Fred, like Newt, has lots of good positions. He hasn’t ever run anything, though. I’d love for Fred to be VP or some sort of policy advisor, but I don’t trust him with running the executive arm of government. Just as I don’t trust me to do it.
2) His dedication. The guy just doesn’t seem to want it. How do I know he will wake up in the morning and be eager to get to grips with all the chaos the next president will have?
Vanceone on December 28, 2007 at 3:02 PM
Yes, I was. If Hillary said she would close the borders, but keep every other issue the same, do you think they’d pick her? You’re being naive here.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 3:02 PM
I support Fred and have fallen victim to some real stupidity by some of his more unbalanced crew.
Ex: Frank at IMAO writes a “Fred Fact” every morning. Yesterday he wrote a funny one about Fred owning 25 SUV’s and not caring about his carbon footprint.
Some commenter at the campaign website went bonkers thinking it “hurt Fred” because the candidate is for us using less oil.
And if I so much mention the fact that Fred has little chance of winning, they jump down my throat for being negative.
They are not as numerous or even as bad as the Paubots – but some of them should definitely take a vacation.
rick moran on December 28, 2007 at 3:02 PM
Allah would be fine with Fred if he had a Brooklyn accept.
Allah just hates the South and any thing that emanates from it.
I tend to agree with him, but I am from Chicago so I don’t like anybody unless they call carbonated beverages ‘pop’.
liberrocky on December 28, 2007 at 3:04 PM
accept=accent
liberrocky on December 28, 2007 at 3:05 PM
Like I said, they’re reliably Pavlovian. I can’t blame you for poking them. Not to mention that once they get riled up, the equally Pavlovian anti-Freds show up, and a good time is had by all.
But the Mitt-en are funnier in their angst. They’re just so super serial and they spin better than anybody else. And without a trace of self-awareness.
I suspect if you weren’t a little smitten with Mittens yourself, you’d plow that rich fertile field a little more deeply. It’s entertainment gold.
But in your defense … Mitt’s turn was last month. Maybe you’ll get back to him after the Huckadays are over.
Professor Blather on December 28, 2007 at 3:05 PM
Ah, $206,000 and three hours to go. Any takers on what the final amount might be by 6 pm today?
Kokonut on December 28, 2007 at 3:06 PM
Not so. MKH is a southern gal and we all dig her. But it does irk me that some conservatives make such a fetish of southern culture. Huck, to his credit, doesn’t try to leverage that. Fred does.
Allahpundit on December 28, 2007 at 3:07 PM
This thread (ok you might be on the right track Allah) has made me think of something….(oh no – Lim thinks?). Mitt attacks McCain, McCain attacks Mitt, Rudy and Mitt and McCain attack each other, Huck, Rudy, Mitt, and John are WWFing each other right and left. Where are the attacks on Fred? Why aren’t there attacks on Fred? If internal polling showed anything other then the same results the polls Allah has been ramming down my throat then Fred should be on the hit list. Does this mean CS gets to dance on my grave? Will Allah be awarded a Triumph in the forum?
Nah……….who am I kidding?…….Go FRED!
Limerick on December 28, 2007 at 3:09 PM
I think all the ‘heads’ and others just git a little tired of bein’ told it’s over, told our guy CAN’T WIN based on polls.
Dude- polls are wrong all the time. Let’s just give’em ALL a chance until at least ONE vote has been cast.
And ya know what else- the MSM IS against Fred and anyone who’s intellectually honest knows it. Right Mr. O’Reilly?
Ex-tex on December 28, 2007 at 3:09 PM
You know…. What IS with the South and conservatism? Why not the west? Not California, but the mountains? Utah, Wyoming, Idaho–doesn’t that represent the ideals of conservatism more than the south?
Of course, I’m biased–I be in Utah, and most candidates, aside from Mitt, just ignore us. They ignore Wyoming and Idaho too.
Vanceone on December 28, 2007 at 3:10 PM
He is wise not to. If he did he would risk becoming a caricature. The baptist minster + heavy southern drawl = cartoon character.
liberrocky on December 28, 2007 at 3:10 PM
Well, Huck probably goes better with chicken than does Fred. Or probably in this case a couple of pheasants he just shot down over the heads of a bunch of reporters.
Kokonut on December 28, 2007 at 3:11 PM
Fixed
Gregor on December 28, 2007 at 3:11 PM
Actually, its 4 hours to go since they are talking CST or Iowa time.
And my guess is $235,000
rick moran on December 28, 2007 at 3:11 PM
Rick;
Thanks for all your hard work these past few days.
Chris
ChrisM on December 28, 2007 at 3:11 PM
So, for everyone who is bagging on Fred, what’s YOUR alternative?
matd on December 28, 2007 at 3:12 PM
OUCH.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 3:12 PM
.
I noticed, and, thanks!
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 3:13 PM
You have lots of friends who are black (jewish, gay) too right.
Also what is up with the royal ‘we’?
liberrocky on December 28, 2007 at 3:14 PM
212
Limerick on December 28, 2007 at 3:15 PM
I stand corrected. 4 hours to go. Even better. BTW, moran, it’s at $211,000.
Kokonut on December 28, 2007 at 3:15 PM
Well, add $100 to the pot via snailmail. Damn he almost got me to give out my card number over the internet, but then I got to the e-mail field required.
A man can be pushed to break silly rules only so far in one day and I know that, in his heart, Fred is proud of me.
Dusty on December 28, 2007 at 3:16 PM
My guess is around $260K.
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 3:16 PM
I predict he’ll hit the 260 mark.
Gregor on December 28, 2007 at 3:16 PM
Rudy was the third ranking official in the Reagan Justice Department. I think that is sorta related to national security. He was even vilified by Sharpton for sticking Haitian illegal aliens into concentration camps. That is the extent of his involvement with illegal immigration on the federal level — if anything he was considered too cruel.
As mayor he was not involved in illegal immigration, because he was powerless to stop them at the border and powerless to deport them. He was a victim of the fed’s failure to act. The feds left him with 400,000 illegals to deal with. ((Now if he had been, say, a Senator from Tennessee in the 90’s, he would have been in a position to impact immigration policy at the federal level — if he wasn’t on board with Spencer Abraham’s open boarders agenda)). His actions as mayor show his prowess as an executive — and the results speak for themselves. They do not speak of his position on illegal immigration at the federal level. The only thing we have from Rudy on that level are the Haitian concentration camps.
tommylotto on December 28, 2007 at 3:16 PM
Go away Rudy. Shouldn’t you be off campaigning in Iowa or something. My GOD the talking points get old.
Gregor on December 28, 2007 at 3:18 PM
If ever there were a remark to be banned for, THAT is the one that should do it. You gonna put up with that crap AP?
hahaha
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 3:18 PM
Maybe it’s because southerners believe enough to take up arms to defend thier homes and thier way of life.
jdawg on December 28, 2007 at 3:21 PM
#1 doesn’t bother me, actually. We’re not talking about one man running the country- we’re talking about putting together an administration that proposes policy. And one of the reasons I trust Fred for this job is that his instincts and values are spot on with mine on almost everything.
#2 is actually a plus for me. Guys like Rudy, Mitt and Huckubus would kill for the job. I actually prefer someone who would do the job because we ask him to, rather than someone who wants it so bad that it hurts.
Just my .02
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 3:22 PM
Dang it Dan! This blog is much more fun when idiots like blather, who act like angry children, accuse others of acting like angry children, when it’s clear the Fred bashing is a vehicle to tweak the crazy Fredbots.
Now you’ve ruined it for us. ;-)
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 3:23 PM
Careful, as the same applies to you and your own relationship with your readers.
maverick muse on December 28, 2007 at 3:23 PM
217K and counting…
jdawg on December 28, 2007 at 3:25 PM
Motivation: who’s promising front row seats at press conferences to Michelle or whoever?
maverick muse on December 28, 2007 at 3:27 PM
I tend to agree with him, but I am from Chicago so I don’t like anybody unless they call carbonated beverages ‘pop’.
Just call it a ‘Coke’ damnit! we know what youre talking about.
And i dont think Allah hates his readers because of Thompson. I think it because he is constantly posting the religious threads to stir up trouble and talk down to the rubes. The ‘Fredbots’ name calling thing is an example of that though. And if thats not enough proof just look at all the View clips that have been posted here this year.
And Allah seems to do a lot of ‘tut tut’ing – to other conservatives. Makes him look like a jerk. It isnt too hard to disagree with someone without talking down to them.
But he does post some interesting news stories.
amish on December 28, 2007 at 3:28 PM
Just naturally that way. Course we all know conservatives are better’n libs any day.
That, and the fact that we aren’t just posturin’ idiots without core principles or the guts to back’em up.
Ex-tex on December 28, 2007 at 3:29 PM
Fixed Allah
broker1 on December 28, 2007 at 3:29 PM
He has about $30K to go now. If you click every 30-60 seconds for a few minutes, you will probably see changes of about $25-$100 at a time as small donors trickle in at a fairly steady rate, a couple per minute. Then there will be a jump of $2,300 when someone tosses in the maximum. Then it’ll go back to $25 at a time. In other words, it looks like a lot of individual small donors are doing most of this. Regardless, if it keeps up for the rest of the afternoon, he should hit his goal without a problem.
aero on December 28, 2007 at 3:31 PM
“The guy just doesn’t seem to want it” says Vanceone riding the merry-go-round of spin.
maverick muse on December 28, 2007 at 3:31 PM
I hope that isn’t the commercial he’s trying to raise these
And please…… remind me again….. which Republican Candidate is NOT weak?
Ernest on December 28, 2007 at 3:31 PM
So. Do. You. Unarguable. Not an attack, either. When someone regularly makes their entire post “Wahhhhh you big crybaby”, that’s an angry child. Even people who agree with you have made that clear.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 3:32 PM
Wow, lotsa Allah bashing today.
SouthernDem on December 28, 2007 at 3:33 PM
What is the matter? You offer vagaries like calling Rudy on the wrong side of immigration and no record on national security. I provide you with facts and links and a lengthy explanation — and could provided you with an even lengthier explanation if I had time.
So who is relying on talking points and who is offering facts and discussing the issues?
But back to more important issues. Has the fifth place pro-choice terrorist lawyer filled up his gas can?
tommylotto on December 28, 2007 at 3:33 PM
SECOND LOOK AT ALLAHPUNDIT!
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 3:34 PM
See guys, there’s no fooling AP. Now if only his clear intellect would rub off on the kooky Fredbots.
I mean really guys, do you really think a guy who has the conservative rhetoric to take Iowa by a landslide, yet is begging for 250K and is PRAYING for a third place finish, is a strong candidate? Do you really expect someone with AP’s credentials to keep silent because a bunch of hair renting crazy Fred groupies accuse him of being me?
C’mon! This blog wouldn’t be what it is without AP. He’s fair and balanced. So grow up you loony Fredbots and see Fred for what he is. A supremely WEAK candidate.
But I guess you’ll claim his weakness is all part of his “waiting in the weeds” strategy right?
Bwahahahaha!!!
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 3:34 PM
Ung … max’ed out for me …
Fred’s the one.
tarpon on December 28, 2007 at 3:35 PM
By the way, I understand this is the Primaries thus guaranteeing conservative in-fighting, but I sure hope you guys rally round the eventual nominee.
SouthernDem on December 28, 2007 at 3:36 PM
You keep working on the “electable” idea. I work on the “best president” idea. They might not get elected, but damned if I didn’t back the best guy for the job.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 3:39 PM
Why??? Yer a Dem ain’t ya?
Ex-tex on December 28, 2007 at 3:39 PM
Admit it, you’re Fred shill AP. I have ragged on you repeatedly for using that fake retouched photo of Fred. The guy really looks like a cranky constipated old coot that can’t keep the kids off his lawn.
/sarc off
hahaha
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 3:39 PM
See guys, there’s no fooling AP. Now if only his clear intellect would rub off on the kooky Fredbots.Do you really expect someone with AP’s credentials to keep silent because a bunch of hair renting crazy Fred groupies accuse him of being me?C’mon! This blog wouldn’t be what it is without AP. He’s fair and balanced. So grow up you loony Fredbots and see Fred for what he is.
Does anybody doubt my theory now?
See csdeven tried to throw you off his trail by claiming that he has children and since Allah is a notorious homosexual they couldnt possibley be the same person – but his own words have damned him.
I think its time we check csdevens hello kitty backpack for an Iphone
amish on December 28, 2007 at 3:40 PM
$221,005
bnelson44 on December 28, 2007 at 3:40 PM
I’m spinning, maverick muse? Tell me, did you ever answer my question? I’ve asked you at least three times now whether you think that the LDS church being driven by gunpoint (with the accompanying rapes, murders, and deaths from weather) out of the US in the 1800’s was a good thing; the moral and right thing.
So far you haven’t answered. I suspect that is because you would say yes, but are afraid of being labeled a bigot. So until you answer the question honestly, why should anyone pay any attention to what you have to say?
In any case, I’m not spinning. I’ve said numerous times I like Fred. It’s telling, isn’t it, that the reasons I don’t like him don’t have to do with policy positions–they have to do with him as a candidate. If Rudy had Fred’s positions, this race would have been over long, long ago. If Huck had Fred’s positions, this would have been over long ago. Mitt, not so much, because of the anti-Mormon groups, but it would still be pretty much over.
It’s Fred himself that gives me pause.
Vanceone on December 28, 2007 at 3:40 PM
And, for the love of God, quit ending your posts in laughter. It’s inane.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 3:40 PM
Hot Air has been conspicuously uninvolved in fundraising, so I am especially appreciative of the links you have furnished, AP.
RushBaby on December 28, 2007 at 3:40 PM
Par for the course on a Fred-thread.
Spirit of 1776 on December 28, 2007 at 3:41 PM
AP, you can only take a piss on Fred supporters so many times a day before there’s a little grumbling. Pimping his site is great, but doesn’t really count as a retraction for slighting our intelligence. Crying on Blather’s shoulder like we’re not in the room doesn’t do much either.
You think we’re dim for not seeing seeing potential weaknesses in our candidate? Run with that if you want to, but don’t whine if there’s a little backlash.
TexasDan on December 28, 2007 at 3:44 PM
You’ve made your opinion of conservatives clear, AllahPundit, and have recently begun making it a habit to impugn their motives at every opportunity. Turn-about being fair play, I have to ask myself, what motivates your attitudes expressed here at HotAir? I can understand you not wanting to endorse a candidate on the grounds that it would diminish your aura of impartiality, but constantly insulting conservatives isn’t the least bit impartial.
If we are going to question each other’s motives, it leads me to wonder how four years of Hillary or Obama would affect HotAir. I can envision that the traffic here might increase several-fold, is that your game?
If so, the problem you have is this: why the hell would Republicans and conservatives want to comment here at HotAir if they suspected you are intentionally trying to damage their interests in order to increase your hit-count? They’re not here for your benefit, AP.
However, I would never ask these questions myself because I realize that, just like you obviously have no idea what motivates me to support Fred, I have no idea what motivates you to hate all of the Republican candidates. So let’s just leave it at that. :)
FloatingRock on December 28, 2007 at 3:46 PM
Allah’s gay??? not that there’s anything wrong with that.
just didn’t know it.
Ex-tex on December 28, 2007 at 3:47 PM
$222,065
1K in 5 minutes. Not bad.
jdawg on December 28, 2007 at 3:47 PM
In theory, SouthernDem, yes. But I’m afraid I will be staying home on principle if by some stretch, McVain or Huckabum get the nom. I would vote for Rudy, Fred or even Mitt easily.
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 3:49 PM
Last comment:
As a Fred supporter I think I will just stay out of any future Fred threads. Dare we say anything good about our candidate and get labeled blithering idiots. I dont think he will last, but until then, he gets my support.
broker1 on December 28, 2007 at 3:50 PM
I don’t think Allah’s homosexual. If he is, that’s the first I’ve heard of it.
And I really, REALLY doubt it. If Allah was homosexual, he’d not post all those things about crushing on various hotties on Fox. No gay man would appreciate the, er, finer views of MKH, of Bethany, of Julia Banderas, I think she is (and I know that AP has threatened to ban those who don’t think Julia is practically the hottest around).
I’m quite confident Allah likes the ladies. As do I…..
Vanceone on December 28, 2007 at 3:51 PM
As me grandpappy used ta say….
“when you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one you hit”.
When I use the term Fredbot, only the Fredbots get riled up. And since they are Fredbots, who gives a crap how riled up they get? The normal Fred supporters like Limrick, Entelechy, and tickledragon don’t respond to those comments because they are not Fredbots.
I never read a comment where AP called ALL Fred supporters “Fredbots”. There is a distinction and it’s pretty clear to those of us who are not a “bot” for any candidate.
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 3:51 PM
FR, what drives us to Hot Air is the same thing that drives listeners to Rush’s broadcasts: Content. Content. Content. Won’t matter who’s in the WH.
RushBaby on December 28, 2007 at 3:53 PM
Your analogy doesn’t hold up. You zero in on different people, leave the argument when you can’t argue back, and then refer to “Fredbots” in general. Every time someone gets pissed off when you do something like make an argument about Jeri’s looks, people get pissed off. I guess someone who gets offended that you challenge the physical appearance of a candidate’s wife really is a “Fredbot”.
You see what I’m saying?
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 3:55 PM
Think Zell Miller dem. I sure as heck ain’t voting for any of the Dem candidates.
SouthernDem on December 28, 2007 at 3:55 PM
225
amend2 on December 28, 2007 at 3:56 PM
Man, FR, that is some SERIOUS overreaction there. I’m a Fred supporter too, and I don’t see Allah’s choice of stories, comments or anything other to be indicative of hatred of conservatives or a desire to elect liberals for hits on the website.
Are you normally this paranoid, or is it just today?
Also, to dis Allah, when he (and Michelle and Bryan) give us so much information and entertainment, is just rude and disrespectful.
I could not possibly care less what Allah or anyone thinks about my candidate of choice. Why should you?
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 3:57 PM
Allah’s gay??? not that there’s anything wrong with that.
just didn’t know it.
Hell if i know. I was just making a joke.
“when you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one you hit”.
Yeah Fred! has a similar saying about chucking a rock at a pack of retards on a blog. The one who writes a comment about ’scumbag lobbyists’ is usually one of the high functioning ones. So congrats on that one.
amish on December 28, 2007 at 3:57 PM
Let me fix that for you:
“it’s pretty clear to those of
usyou who are not a “bot” for any candidate.” said the Chief MittBot.LegendHasIt on December 28, 2007 at 3:59 PM
Wrongo. I am always in control and usually very measured in my comments. You Fred loons on the other hand are blinding lashing out like schoolyard crybabies. You are constantly demanding that AP ban me so you don’t have to read my comments. Question for you…Why wont you control yourself and only read those comments that don’t rile you up to the point that you go into uncontrolled fits of raging diatribes?
That mentality is the result of the same personality disorder that makes you think it’s OK to send Fred money because I oppose him, rather than because of his record as a candidate. Clue for you and the rest of the Fred loons…..THAT behavior is why you are criticized for being “overheated”.
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 4:00 PM
How did we end up talking about this?
Nyog_of_the_Bog on December 28, 2007 at 4:01 PM
Thanks for clearing that up, CS. :)
And um, as to that quote by grandpappy…. VERY smart. We should all learn from that, I think.
But then, I’ve been known to rile about religion/non-religion. We all know now that one hits home, then, don’t we.
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:01 PM
only 20K to go.
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 4:03 PM
csdeven, it must hurt trying to pat yourself on your back.
Kokonut on December 28, 2007 at 4:03 PM
Since you can’t get AP to ban me to save you from your own inability to regulate what you read, maybe you can get him to add “hahaha” and “Bwahahahaha!!!” to the comment filter?
Bwahahahaha!!!
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 4:05 PM
Dunno, but I think we should Drop. It. Right. Now.
RushBaby on December 28, 2007 at 4:05 PM
So, if the double fence will have to wait until 2009 to be built (if Fred is elected), then for 2008, will the relative flow of illegal immigrants be in or out of the US?
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 4:06 PM
+1
TexasDan on December 28, 2007 at 4:07 PM
As a Fredhead, I do have to concurr with AP on one point he makes.
Fred’s campaign has been generally less “energetic” than the other candidates have been.
What AP doesn’t, perhaps, understand is that’s why I like him. Much of the “energy” surrounding the other candidates comes off as so much hype and (if you will excuse the pun) hot air. They are all acting like male birds doing a mating dance. Puffing out their feathers, and bopping around like morons.
Then there is Fred. He just kind of stands there, and tells you what he believes. End of story. No fancy words, no running around with a Shotgun, no over-the-top sappy Christmas ads. Just Fred.
Yeah, he could run his campaign a bit more energeticly, but frankly, the Presidency isn’t a dog and pony show, it’s serious business (no internet meme intended). What I want in a President is not a showman, I want a Statesman. Fred is that.
It also doesn’t hurt that he is the ONLY candidate that falls pretty much right in line with everything I believe in. And frankly isn’t it more important to vote your conscience?
Not that a vote for Fred is a wasted vote either. I think he’s highly electable, particularly when you put him up against Hillary or Obama.
Personally, I look for Fred to be the surprise winner in Iowa.
wearyman on December 28, 2007 at 4:07 PM
I would like to thank Big “A” for paving the way for the saint’s return. The threads are so much better now. Now that they are laced with childish, repetitive BS.
I think you should TAKE A SECOND LOOK at who exactly acts like a paul-bot.
Sammy316 on December 28, 2007 at 4:09 PM
In AP’s defense, he never said ALL Fred supporters were overheated.
And to your credit, you have never been a Fred loon. You have always been rational, yet optimistic about Fred.
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 4:09 PM
Interesting you should ask. Linked on Drudge:
Important to note, this says migration, not illegal immigration. But who are we kidding.
RushBaby on December 28, 2007 at 4:10 PM
THAT was beautiful wearyman! well said.
Ex-tex on December 28, 2007 at 4:11 PM
Wait, wait, wait…you’re telling me not to read comments that rile me up? Plenty of people here post comments that criticize Fred, that I either debate them on or ignore. You are one of the few that posts to insult his supporters or drop the same old sound bytes about him. Your posts, as you’ve ADMITTED, are usually intended simply to annoy others.
Let’s make this clear: You stooped to insulting the looks of Jeri Thompson. You did this yourself, your own choice. Nearly everyone was angry that you would bring the discourse here to that level. You don’t get to talk about how “others” started you off. You wouldn’t have others “lashing out” if you hadn’t started them off. What, one day a bunch of HA readers decided to pick on a random poster? You can play that victim card all you want, but it’s still a bald-faced lie, and you know it.
And by the way, how the hell do I know if your post is going to rile me up until I read it? Some of the time, you post normal, sensible additions to the discussion. Most of the time, and more in recent days, you’ve posted nothing but pure bile about Fred and increasingly about his supporters. You’re insulting a bunch of people who have done nothing to you. That’s how all of this started. If you wanted it to stop, you could have made it so. Instead, you relish getting other people pissed off with your crude remarks, calling others “8itch” and trying to be as robotic as possible in your arguments. You keep it going, so you must like it. That makes you seriously disturbed. Prove otherwise.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 4:12 PM
I could never be accused of being a Fred fan, don’t much care for him myself. But I believe the reason Limrick, Entelechy, and tickledragon don’t respond to csdeven is because he is a caustic and nasty little jerk that cannot post here without being a jacka$$ in the process.
I would not want csdeven to be barred from HA because he serves as a prime example on how not to act.
leanright on December 28, 2007 at 4:12 PM
See above. You like being a troll. Prove otherwise.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 4:13 PM
.
5. He likes his chocolate crucified.
lobosan5 on December 28, 2007 at 4:13 PM
Spot on.
Sammy316 on December 28, 2007 at 4:14 PM
No no, see, if you say that, you’re just a Fredbot. So says the word of FDSeven.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 4:15 PM
AP…do you find it ironic as I do that this entire comment was an attempt to deny his overheated nature by being overheated in his response?
AP has the power to destroy conservatism and by extension, elect Hillary through his blog at HA! Please AP, endorse someone so we can just forgo the election and go right to the coronation.
Bwahahahaa!!!
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 4:15 PM
So, the rush is on to get under the wire, just like the period before the 80’s amnesty. Maybe if we enforce the employer verification laws they will keep going until they reach Canada.
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 4:17 PM
I zero in on Fred. Just read any Fred thread and you’ll see the exact same scenario play out every time. And usually, it’s you who starts it.
csdeven on December 28, 2007 at 4:19 PM
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AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 4:20 PM
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bnelson44 on December 28, 2007 at 4:21 PM
Since I’m here, I will speak for myself on the subject of csdeven. I don’t answer the caustic stuff, because I learned a while back – like you annoyed folks should – that he is just trying to rile you up. I argued with him long enough to get mad, state my case, and make a bet. After that…no argument needed. I see it for what it is. A bit of sadistic fun on CS’ part.
And as stated previously, CS is in line with most of us on many other issues. This is just his particular bugaboo.
Why the heck do any of you care what anyone else thinks about your candidate? Use your energy in a more productive way by offering up support for that candidate. You’re not going to change CS’ or anyone else’s mind. As CS is not going to change yours.
tickleddragon on December 28, 2007 at 4:21 PM
No doubt content is a driving factor, but most of the people here are Republicans and/or conservatives. They come here instead of KOS for that reason. If the Democrats win back the White House and AP decides to change sides and ridicule Republicans instead, most HotAir members are likely to go elsewhere to spend their valuable time.
But when I questioned AP’s motives in my comment above, I wasn’t trying to suggest that I actually “know” his motives, my point was that neither does he know mine, and I’m getting tired of AP impugning them. I’ve never seen Fred’s TV show, not once, (I don’t have a TV), I’ve only seen him in a few movies but I didn’t even know which movies until ~six months ago, and then I went back and watched a few of them. I’m not a fan-boy and I don’t appreciate AP’s repeatedly condescending attitude.
During my time here at HotAir I’ve appreciated AP’s equal opportunity trashing of all of the candidates. When fan-boys of the various candidates have complained that AP was being unfair and that they were going to leave HotAir forever, I laughed right along with AP. But the repeated attacks against Fred supporters, (not the candidate), when actually the most rabid supporters here represent Mitt and Rudy, (CSDeven, BKennedy, TommyLotto, etc), it becomes clear to me that while AP may not like any of the candidates, the HotAir members he has the most disdain for support Fred and Ron Paul. He’s said as much.
FloatingRock on December 28, 2007 at 4:22 PM
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