Fred reaches fundraising target for new ad? Update: Fred appeals to Fredheads to keep donating
posted at 1:19 pm on December 28, 2007 by Allahpundit
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According to the campaign site, with less than five hours to go they’re still $65,000 short. No matter, says Politico — somehow they came up with the balance and will be on the air tomorrow in major cities across Iowa. Can the dream of third place at last be within reach? Don’t stop believing, my friends.
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I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again.
The Good News: Fred’s Goal of 3rd Place in Iowa is in Reach.
The Bad News: Fred’s Goal in Iowa is 3rd Place.
amerpundit on December 28, 2007 at 1:22 PM
O RLY?
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 1:24 PM
Ok, now you need to link something with the Journey song in it.
thirteen28 on December 28, 2007 at 1:25 PM
I don’t get it. Are you saying he’s hoping for a higher ranking? Of course he is. A candidate’s “goal” is winning in Iowa. But the realistic “goal” is his taking 3rd place.
amerpundit on December 28, 2007 at 1:26 PM
I hope that isn’t the commercial he’s trying to raise these funds to show. He should be able to come out with far more effective ads then that. I almost fell asleep half way through. There is absolutely nothing about that ad that grabbed my attention. Quite honestly, if thats the ad, he’s wasting a lot of money.
Zetterson on December 28, 2007 at 1:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip1zsUIosoA
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 1:27 PM
It ain’t over.
Hel*, it ain’t even started.
Ex-tex on December 28, 2007 at 1:27 PM
Iowans need something to watch since none of their colleges made it to a bowl game.
/ducking
LakeRuins on December 28, 2007 at 1:27 PM
Indeed it is.
Another similarity between the Fredheads and Paulnuts: Both are so enamored of their guys’ respective policies that they overlook the fact that they’re weak candidates.
Allahpundit on December 28, 2007 at 1:28 PM
I like this version myself.
Slublog on December 28, 2007 at 1:29 PM
Two questions:
1.) Did Fred dip into his bank account because he didn’t think the goal would be met?
2.) Do Fredheads continue to donate, pushing the gasless “Red Pickup” over the finish line?
This is still a disaster. It’s an embarrassment to the Thompson campaign, and all they have to show for it is one crappy ad.
Big S on December 28, 2007 at 1:29 PM
Reminds me of the Wedding Singer, Fred/Sandler 08 :)
Spirit of 1776 on December 28, 2007 at 1:30 PM
No Sh*t.
WHY?
Who’s gonna do better on the things we care most about?
Come on Allah, You care more about HOW a guy campaigns than HOW he would govern??
Ex-tex on December 28, 2007 at 1:31 PM
Enamored of what? That Fred has the most conservative stances? You could say the same about Tancredo and Hunter. Depends what you mean by “weak”.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 1:31 PM
Go Fred!
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 1:32 PM
Yep. Although when he does flame out, it’ll be fun watching the Fredheads blame the media for his failures. Ol’ Fred can do no wrong. It’s the forces that conspired against him what done it.
Allahpundit on December 28, 2007 at 1:32 PM
It is.
amerpundit on December 28, 2007 at 1:32 PM
StraegyVision Iowa Poll Dec 26th to 27th
. If the 2008 Republican presidential caucus were held today between Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, Duncan Hunter, John McCain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, and Fred Thompson, for whom would you vote? (Republicans Only; Names Rotated)
Mike Huckabee 29%
Mitt Romney 27%
Fred Thompson 15%
John McCain 14%
Rudy Giuliani 4%
Ron Paul 4%
Duncan Hunter 1%
Undecided 6%
William Amos on December 28, 2007 at 1:33 PM
Yeah, same here. With apologies to MKH, was never a big Journey fan, save for a couple of tunes.
thirteen28 on December 28, 2007 at 1:33 PM
Third place… sheesh. I’m what you might call a FredHead and in between fits of irrational anger at how AP treats Fred here – and by extension me, I hope that Fred’s pretty much all round conservative message gets out so as turn everyone else into FredHeads. But third? That’s success?
PS was that Journey tune ever used by a political campaign?
jmuchow on December 28, 2007 at 1:35 PM
Don’t count me in that group. I’ve ragged on Fred plenty for waiting way too long to jump in (thereby missing his moment) and being unable to sell his ideas. Not all of the Fredheads are blind to his lackluster campaign, but we like his policy positions nonetheless.
thirteen28 on December 28, 2007 at 1:35 PM
I can;t say I’m not interested to know what the reaction will be. However, I won’t be happy to see Fred go; he seems like he knows what he’s doing, and could have been a good candidate. The think that turns me off is the constant boosterism among his supporters, and claims that none of the others are “real conservatives”. I’m not anti-Fred; I’m anti-hype.
Big S on December 28, 2007 at 1:37 PM
Dude. You have some serious problems with Fred supporters. Why the unnecessary tweaking?
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 1:38 PM
Good news for Fred and Mitt…they weren’t on Judicial Watch’s list of the Top 10 Most Corrupt Politicians.
davenp35 on December 28, 2007 at 1:41 PM
William Amos, that poll contained some very telling questions. Among the ones that stood out to me were these:
Kind of makes it clear just how much the Republican candidates are going to have to distance themselves from President Bush if they want to have any chance of winning in 08. Such a shame.
Zetterson on December 28, 2007 at 1:42 PM
Why is it only fun to watch Fredheads be disappointed, Allah?
I personally think it’s gonna be the Mitt-en who’re gonna have some ’splainin’ to do.
But I never ENJOY watchin’ somebody else disappointed.
Ex-tex on December 28, 2007 at 1:42 PM
Because everytime, right on schedule, they always react. It would take a very big man to ignore that temptation.
Someone like Fred.
Heh.
jmuchow on December 28, 2007 at 1:43 PM
He hasn’t made his fundraising target, see: http://www.fred08.com/
But he probably has enough for an initial buy.
bnelson44 on December 28, 2007 at 1:43 PM
I’m confused. I thought it was Mitt that could do no wrong … but Fred that could save the universe?
Maybe I’ve got my memes backwards. I hate that.
Answer: 4
Question: the number of hours I’ll now be trying to get Steve Perry vocals out of my head.
Exit question: how much does a ticket cost on a midnight train going an-y-where?
Professor Blather on December 28, 2007 at 1:43 PM
Here in AZ it’s only 11:40AM, and Fred only has $60K to go. The ads are running (its dull/serious on purpose, to offset the jokester and the make-it-up artist).
Fred has the right policy positions, and is the very last candidate I can see signing an amnesty law, period. So if you’re going to belly ache about illegals, you should be behind Fred.
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 1:44 PM
Holy god…that’s depressing. And so many of them are trying to be the leader of this nation…
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 1:44 PM
I especially liked this one:
amerpundit on December 28, 2007 at 1:45 PM
Okay Allah, I won’t ask you to defend you position anymore AFTER this ONE last time (the 3rd time I asked). But, the snarky sarcasm is off- I REALLY don’t get it.
Ex-tex on December 28, 2007 at 1:45 PM
Wow, Guiliani, Huckabee and Obama all on that list. I’m surprised McCain, Murtha and Jefferson were not.
Zetterson on December 28, 2007 at 1:46 PM
Google: Pavlov. All will be explained.
See also, Romney, Mitt, and Paul, Ron.
I just don’t see why he doesn’t tweak the Mitt-en more frequently. They’re just as Pavlovian but much, much funnier. They’re so serial.
Professor Blather on December 28, 2007 at 1:47 PM
Wasn’t McCain involved with Charles Keating and the S&L scandal?
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 1:47 PM
Yes, interesting how John “ABSCAM” Murtha and William “Cold Cash” Jefferson”, who faces over 200 years in prison, didn’t make it.
amerpundit on December 28, 2007 at 1:48 PM
I give Fred better odds of winning in Iowa than the NY Giants winning against the Pats tomorrow night
bones47 on December 28, 2007 at 1:48 PM
I consider Shamnesty the biggest scandal in the history of US Politics.
Zetterson on December 28, 2007 at 1:49 PM
Ok, tell me if you’ve heard this one before. Steve Perry, a blimp and Mitt Romney’s hair walk into a bar. The bartender sez…. (insert body of joke here)… but she tells him: “Ron Paul!!!”
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 1:50 PM
He’s too focused on one particular Mitt supporter to notice the other ones.
thirteen28 on December 28, 2007 at 1:50 PM
C’mon, man. It was a top 10 list. They had to cut it off somewhere.
I just think its awesome that anonymous gay bathroom sex only gets you number three. If you’re gonna be unethical, dream big. Yeah, Hillary. I’m talking to you. Vince Foster says hi.
Professor Blather on December 28, 2007 at 1:51 PM
Nice.
I’ll bet “Ron Paul” is a popular punchline these days.
Hugh?Who?Professor Blather on December 28, 2007 at 1:53 PM
True, but Libby, Rudy, and Craig made the list, but Jefferson and Murtha didn’t?
amerpundit on December 28, 2007 at 1:53 PM
It ryhmes … I think with ooh-itt or something like that.
thirteen28 on December 28, 2007 at 1:54 PM
Yeah, I love that tapping your foot in a stall ranks above costing the American taxpayers 124 billion dollars.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 1:54 PM
That’s a problem with Huck – he can’t say what he means, we’re all s’posed to instinctively know.
jdawg on December 28, 2007 at 1:56 PM
He had a very, very wide stance.
Professor Blather on December 28, 2007 at 1:56 PM
190k now.
amend2 on December 28, 2007 at 1:57 PM
Professor Blather…. I think, since I would likely be considered one of what you call “Mitt-en”, AP doesn’t need to tweak us. Generally speaking, I haven’t seen many Mitt supporters accuse AP of bashing us. We take our lumps–after all, as the front runner, and AP’s track record, it’s better to be being bashed by AP than not.
Also, Mitt has the unique problem of dedicated anti-mormons dragging in the religion all the time. I know Fred has Csdeven as an anti Fred guy, but Mitt has lots more, because they want to pin the so-called theological sins of Mormonism on Mitt. I’ve noticed that AP used to do a lot more religion threads, but after the thread where some people started going off about how they were looking forward to driving Mormons out of the country with guns again…. I haven’t seen more than one thread that could bring up the religious stuff. AP’s a cool guy–and those kind of threads weren’t just baiting anymore, they had degenerated into really bad feelings–for some reason, LDS supporters don’t take kindly to having posts telling them they need to be driven at the point of a gun.
That kind of stuff can get dangerous. And it doesn’t reflect well on the site, so I think AP stopped bringing up that stuff–for which I am thankful.
Vanceone on December 28, 2007 at 1:58 PM
As of a few minutes ago, the site shows over 190,000. It can be done. If Fred says it’s gonna be done, then its gonna get done.
;-}
jdawg on December 28, 2007 at 1:58 PM
I see that the euphoric high of an iphone lasts less than a week. That’s one expensive habit.
Explain to me again how that criticism is valid for just these two? Or were you actually serious about that second look at McCain?
TexasDan on December 28, 2007 at 2:00 PM
For a guy whose campaign is built around a “no BS” aesthetic, he sure is quick to grab the shovel and start piling it on.
Big S on December 28, 2007 at 2:00 PM
Huckabee needs to apologise for apologising.
AZCON on December 28, 2007 at 2:03 PM
He’s pulling in about 20 grand an hour right now. He’ll make the target and most likely pass it by quite a bit.
Gregor on December 28, 2007 at 2:05 PM
Woe is us. Fred is gonna lose the Ex-Arkansas Governor vote on top of the Illegal Alien Subprime Mortgage Holder vote.
Doom, I tellya!
wccawa on December 28, 2007 at 2:05 PM
Gregor on December 28, 2007 at 2:05 PM
Gone up over a thousand in just the last few minutes.
jdawg on December 28, 2007 at 2:09 PM
I think I have figured out why the Big A likes to hammer Fred and Fred supporters. Cool facts. Has anyone ever done a list of cool facts about Allahpundit?
KelliD on December 28, 2007 at 2:10 PM
Im with you wccawa, Im a Fred support through and through but if he fizzles out so be it. I havent met any Fred supporter that would kick and scream and blame the media. If fact we all know the reality is that he came in too late and hasnt campaigned well.
Where Allah gets this notion that we are frothing at the mouth Fred supporters is beyond me. If you ask me, its those that DONT support Fred that have been more outlandish on these threads. I give it 2 weeks and his campaign is probably done and I will look elsewhere.
broker1 on December 28, 2007 at 2:13 PM
I think AP dropped that stuff because he wants Mitt to get elected.
And – no offense, since I don’t think you’re one of them – some of Mitt’s supporters are among the most die-hard Kool-Aid-guzzling spinning-and-parsing of all the partisans.
They’re actually beating out the Ronulans at the moment in that category, as far as I can see. So the fact that AP has been going soft on them while slamming the Fred-heads and the Huckites is … well, rather interesting.
For pure entertainment value, it’s tough to beat the Mitt-en.
They’re just so darn super-serial about everything they “see” and “saw.”
And the fact that its some of the most over-zealous anti-Fred-heads who are also fainting girlishly over Mitt … well, that’s just delicious irony.
But I suspect the Mitt-en will get their turn again soon enough. Hopefully without the Mormon stuff, though. On that, we agree. That’s been covered plenty.
Professor Blather on December 28, 2007 at 2:14 PM
There are no “cool facts” known about Allah. Everything about him is top secret. I’m not the only one who’s always been a little uneasy about that.
Gregor on December 28, 2007 at 2:16 PM
I’ll do it for you. Mitt/Rudy/etc supporters are, I think in general, settled on them as they relate to their top priorities. IE Rudy is great on national security, so eh, the other stuff isn’t that important in comparison. In contrast RP supporters say RP the only man to save America, FDT supporters that FDT only man who can save conservatism. I’ve said before, and will say again, I like the optimism of the fred-head b/c represents the perpetual optimism of conservative thought, but the spin and the our guy can do no wrong stuff. UGH.
Vote Fred – the only man who can save us from apologies ;)
Spirit of 1776 on December 28, 2007 at 2:17 PM
Agreed. Actually, I’m not sure how anybody could rationally disagree with that.
But you can’t tar all of the anti-Freds together. You can’t lump them all together with
a handfula few a coupleone teenager with a keyboard who gets a little overzealous in his Fred-hate.Professor Blather on December 28, 2007 at 2:17 PM
I’m guessing that they have enough in the bank to make up the shortfall, but were hoping to use only new money for the ad buy. They didn’t make the target, but didn’t want to see a “Thompson fails to meet miniscule fundraising goal” headline.
Not sure if you mean “deliberately ignore” or “fail to see.” It’s definitely the former with me. I know Paul isn’t likely to win, and that he’s not a particularly strong candidate. None of the “electable” guys (or girl) is acceptable to me. I have nothing to lose by supporting the candidate with the right principles and positions, because the alternative is supporting no one. And even if Paul doesn’t win, he’ll stay in the race through Super Tuesday, and he’ll keep the issues that I care about on the table.
The “electable” trio of Huckabee, Romney and Giuliani (maybe McCain — we’ll see) is an utter abomination for anyone with conservative or libertarian views. They’re all so far from the Goldwater/Reagan roots of conservatism it would be funny if their inevitability weren’t so horrid a thought.
Mark Jaquith on December 28, 2007 at 2:18 PM
Here you go broker, you make the call.
Spirit of 1776 on December 28, 2007 at 2:19 PM
Facts? Yes. Are they “cool?” You decide:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allahpundit
I heard he has a blimp. That’s pretty cool.
Professor Blather on December 28, 2007 at 2:19 PM
Honesty. How refreshing.
If Mitt’s supporters followed your example, he’d probably win the thing. To your abject horror, apparently.
Professor Blather on December 28, 2007 at 2:21 PM
And yes, Fred bashing Huck about this makes me hang my head. I know what Huck meant, but ask yourself this.
Do you think the middle east WONT use Hucks soundbite to say “See he apologized!”?
What Huck said was perfectly acceptable here at home but I think we need to be careful on what we say.
broker1 on December 28, 2007 at 2:22 PM
Cool Facts About Allah:
1)He hates his readers.
2) He loves to be condescending to fellow Republicans.
3) He’s csdeven.
amish on December 28, 2007 at 2:23 PM
He is? What has he done to increase national security again? I must have missed something. I could swear the only thing even remotely related to national security that Rudy has EVER had his hands on was the illegal immigration and border security issue. I’m pretty sure he spent his entire career on the wrong side of that issue.
Gregor on December 28, 2007 at 2:24 PM
Ok thats Fred making the complaint. And you know what? Oreilly last week AGAIN during one of his polls left Fred off of it. Do I care? Not in the least. What reason would they have to leave him off the poll?
broker1 on December 28, 2007 at 2:24 PM
The deadline is still several hours away, and the money is rolling in at the moment. He hasn’t failed to meet the target yet.
Gregor on December 28, 2007 at 2:25 PM
Gregor on December 28, 2007 at 2:25 PM
Gone up over 2K just in the last 15 minutes.
jdawg on December 28, 2007 at 2:28 PM
I’m not making the argument, I just used it as an example. I imagine alot of people think of national security when they think of Rudy b/c of his presence post-911. If I’m wrong, okay, insert your own example, makes no difference to me..
That’s a good question, and one for which I have no answer. Maybe he’ll answer that via his ombudswoman.
Spirit of 1776 on December 28, 2007 at 2:29 PM
1. He obviously loves me.
2. Sure, but I like it. It makes me purr like a kitten.
3. Nope. Not even AP is clever enough to fake that degree of angry adolescent angst.
Professor Blather on December 28, 2007 at 2:29 PM
Oh Noooooo!!! A candidate asks supporters to keep sending contributions!! How absolutely SHOCKING!!! What’s next? Maybe he’ll ask people to actually vote for him! How dastardly!
Please….
jdawg on December 28, 2007 at 2:30 PM
Blather, your favorite (and mine) anti-Fredder has a son in the military, so he’s not an actual teenager.
TexasDan on December 28, 2007 at 2:38 PM
My sense is that Fred’s campaign is gaining stride. My sense is that results in Iowa will so indicate though to what degree, I cannot know. Thats why I’m here, doing what I’m doing.
I think it is fair to say that unlike many if not most of his rivals, Fred has not structured his life for a run at the presidency. Hence a lack of ambition on his part may be sensed or reasonably inferred, especially by those who grind an ax for another campaign. So be it, I have no problem with that.
And, coming late to the dance, has meant his organization has been late to form and become fine tuned and adapted to the current and peculiar conditions of this bizarre campaign season. One may suppose I am more willing than others to give Fred a pass.
My belief is that Fred’s motives which I see as coming from a sincere place of true patriotic concern for his country, party and cause of conservatism, at a moment of crisis shall ultimately prove more than sufficient to meet the moment’s challenge. Weather it all comes too late in the game as it has so far and oddly unfolded, remains yet to be seen. But come what may, I have no intention of quitting on the candidate I believe to be the best in the field, before the last card has been played.
Nyog_of_the_Bog on December 28, 2007 at 2:39 PM
196
amend2 on December 28, 2007 at 2:41 PM
No. Way.
If that is true – and for the moment, I’m assessing its truthiness as right up there with John Kerry’s purple hearts and Mitt’s marches – then I don’t know whether to be amused or appalled.
I think I’ll just go back to drinking.
Professor Blather on December 28, 2007 at 2:46 PM
You guys loose. Grocery store -check. Exxon – check. VFW – locked. I gotta talk to that democrat that runs the joint.
200k and counting. Where did I put my dancing shoes.
For what it is worth. Poor ad. Economics might be high on the traditional Reganites minds but he needed some zingers in there for it to be remembered. Oh well, the bus keeps rolling, the red pickup keeps moving, and Fred still takes Iowa by 3 points. You heard it here first folks!
Limerick on December 28, 2007 at 2:48 PM
If that happens, there’ll be heads exploding for sure. And a lot of crow to be served up.
jdawg on December 28, 2007 at 2:50 PM
Not just one, but several as I understand it. This is the one issue cs and I blacken eyes over. Other then that he is allowed in the foxhole.
Limerick on December 28, 2007 at 2:51 PM
4) He is intellectually dishonest in his politics.
Ex-tex on December 28, 2007 at 2:52 PM
Not true. He’s skewered any and all candidates.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 2:54 PM
I have mine precooked.
Limerick on December 28, 2007 at 2:54 PM
He’s mentioned his daughter-in-law too.
Ex-tex on December 28, 2007 at 2:54 PM
I’ve got people in this very thread accusing me of “hating” our readers because I goof on Fred and you don’t see why I think the Fredheads are a tad overheated in their support?
Dude?
Allahpundit on December 28, 2007 at 2:55 PM
;-}
A bit of lemon pepper helps, too.
jdawg on December 28, 2007 at 2:56 PM
Yeah- but he and Michelle led the charge on Shamnesty. But now they “second look” everybody BUT the one guy who’ll close the borders. That’s intellectually dishonest- unless they changed their minds on illegals???
Ex-tex on December 28, 2007 at 2:56 PM
The only Mitt supporter who sometimes strays into naked spin is Buy Danish. csdeven is ostensibly a Mitt supporter, I guess, but he’s really more anti-Fred than pro-anyone else.
Allahpundit on December 28, 2007 at 2:58 PM
Now at $204,396
bnelson44 on December 28, 2007 at 2:58 PM
Umm – dude, it was sarcasm- you know- a joke??!
Ex-tex on December 28, 2007 at 2:58 PM
Allahpundit on December 28, 2007 at 2:55 PM
I find Mitt supporters are by far much more arrogant (overheated, even) and condescending in tone. Fred-heads, not so much.
jdawg on December 28, 2007 at 2:59 PM
Oh, I think Romney might close them. I even think Rudy’s desperate enough to be president that he’ll strengthen them.
Allahpundit on December 28, 2007 at 2:59 PM
That’s what killed Dennis Day — contempt for the audience.
liberrocky on December 28, 2007 at 2:59 PM
You’re assuming they’re single-issue voters. Mitt just got (inexplicably) bumped by Tanc on border policy. Rudy’s also been trying to change his.
MadisonConservative on December 28, 2007 at 2:59 PM
Also, for all of my supposed Fred-hate, how many times have I pimped his donation page in the past two days? Three times? Four?
Allahpundit on December 28, 2007 at 3:00 PM
Yeah what is that about?
liberrocky on December 28, 2007 at 3:01 PM
Yes I am. WERE you HERE during Shamnesty????
Ex-tex on December 28, 2007 at 3:01 PM
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