Was Tancredo’s endorsement of Romney a “stinging setback” for Fred?
posted at 2:40 pm on December 26, 2007 by Allahpundit
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I sure thought so, but with the caucuses eight days away it’s time to start laying the groundwork for blaming the media in case Fred disappoints. So here’s Jed Babbin explaining why the phrase “stinging setback” is and can only be further proof of the AP’s left-wing bias:
There is a small problem with the AP story: the facts. Tancredo did endorse Romney, but Thompson actually benefited from Tancredo’s withdrawal, possibly more than Romney did. Thompson’s campaign staff was stunned: not by Tancredo’s speech, but AP’s coverage. And here’s why.
As reported by The Politico, Bill Salier — Tancredo’s Iowa state chairman — is joining Thompson’s team: “He’s a true-believing social conservative who ran an uphill race in the ‘02 GOP Senate primary that raised some eyebrows. In short: He’s the sort of worker bee a campaign likes to have on its side. If Salier puts his shoulder to the wheel for Fred, he could be a major asset.”
The basic story was not contrived: Tancredo did withdraw and endorse Romney. But the misreporting of it was the functional equivalent of an attack ad directed at Thompson. And it cannot have been accidental. No young reporter would be able to do that without an editor’s approval. Or, more likely, an editor’s orders.
If Tancredo’s withdrawal caused his chief Iowa asset to shift allegiance to Thompson, how is Tancredo’s endorsement of Romney a “stinging setback” for Thompson?
Because the seal of approval of the most stalwart border enforcer in America is worth more than two weeks of work from his chief strategic asset? Salier “could be” an asset for Fred; Tancredo is an asset for Romney. Fred pitched himself as the true blue anti-amnesty warrior of the big five; he rolled out the most thoughtful, serious immigration plan among them; he was the logical choice for the Tancredo benediction and might have benefited tremendously from having an advocate as media savvy and beloved by the base as Tanc doing the rounds on cable news to stump on his behalf. Instead the buzz went to Romney. It’s undeniably a setback; the only question, given the Salier pick-up, is whether that setback on balance falls so far short of “stinging” as to make an in-house conspiracy at the AP the likeliest explanation for their word choice. I’m skeptical.
But since I know the Fredheads are going to complain, here’s a little free advertising for their guy. He needs $250K in the next three days to run his new ad in Iowa. Rick Moran’s trying to get a blogburst going to help him along. Click the image to watch and donate.
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AZCON on December 26, 2007 at 2:44 PM
MSM, fears the Fred…every ask why would the MSM fear Fred and seemingly endorse Huck and Mitt.
Because they know Huck and Mitt can be easily beaten up and discarded.
When the liberals don’t want something, I stop and listen…and ask myself, “why don’t the liberals want Fred as a candidate”.
right2bright on December 26, 2007 at 2:45 PM
All well said! just toss Fred 10 bucks for his campaign help the guy out
Kevin43 on December 26, 2007 at 2:49 PM
I think we need to parse the word “stinging” in great detail. It merits at least 200 posts.
a capella on December 26, 2007 at 2:49 PM
You know, I push Romney. In this campaign season, it seems most candidates supporters cannot stand the other candidates… or their supporters. This is particularly noticable between Huckabee’s religious shock troops and Mitt’s followers.
Most “conservatives” can’t stand McCain or Rudy, for various reasons.
But very few seem to dislike Fred. Same with me. If Fred gets the nomination, I won’t be upset at all.
There is only two beefs with Fred I have, and why he doesn’t get my support: 1) No executive experience. The man hasn’t run anything. It’s like with Newt–great policy positions, but actually RUNNING something turned out to be disastrous. I’d love for Fred or Newt to be like chief of staff or something, where they can have the great ideas, but not have to implement them.
2) The laziness knock. I don’t know if Fred wants it, not really. The guy could have waltzed to the nomination, but he just doesn’t appear to want it much. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, but the Presidency is grueling, and the next president isn’t going to have a free ride–lots of issues out there. Iran, Supreme Court, Iraq, jihadi’s, taxes, budgets, etc etc etc. Would Fred be excited to get up in the morning and deal with them?
I’d take Fred 2nd, and by a long shot, over anyone else. If Fred pulls it out, great.
But I’d still rather have Romney. Romney has turned everything else he’s touched into gold so far… it should continue.
Vanceone on December 26, 2007 at 2:51 PM
Mitt got Tanc. and Fred! got his campaign staff, I think on that score it was a wash. But it did greatly diminish my opinion of Tanc. He gave (sold?) his endorsement to someone who has already flipped on the issue of immigration and, in my opinion, can’t be trusted not to flop on it as well.
P. James Moriarty on December 26, 2007 at 2:51 PM
Found a way to send Fred! some more money this morning. The “tank on the red pickup” was around 9 grand back then, and now it’s up to $17,927.
Much appreciated post, AP.
RushBaby on December 26, 2007 at 2:52 PM
Yeah I read this earlier this morning and as a Fred supporter I was skeptical as well. Its nice to know that his campaign manager told him to get bent and that he was going with Thompson, unfortunately Iowans only saw the endorsement of Mitt.
Exit question: His new ad has almost an exact dollar amount he needs for the ad by Friday. Does this mean that he is flat broke and sitting there looking at me with the insides of his pockets pulled out?
broker1 on December 26, 2007 at 2:53 PM
That stung!
RushBaby on December 26, 2007 at 2:53 PM
I would disagree; Mitt has a much better chance in the General Election thant Fred; Mitt has a lot more gravitas going for him that Fred.
MarkB on December 26, 2007 at 2:54 PM
Since Fred! is getting a move on in Iowa.
Perhaps is finally a call to arms for Fred Thompson.
The MSM has hated the prospect of Fred! as POTUS simply because he’s the modern equivalent of the anti-Communist.
Speakup on December 26, 2007 at 2:57 PM
The only thing “stung” here was Tanc’s reputation.
He did a great service to the country by being a leader on this issue lo these many years, but in the end, he sold out. Bush 1 and “no new taxes” comes to mind.
Parse it all you want, but this was his issue. And in the end, he sold out.
wccawa on December 26, 2007 at 2:57 PM
Thats what the MSM said when W brought Cheney on board as his VP. Hows that workin out?
broker1 on December 26, 2007 at 3:01 PM
rEVOLution!
Allahpundit on December 26, 2007 at 3:01 PM
A Metro-Sexual with gravitas? Wait till Fred gets the NRA endorsement.
Nelsa on December 26, 2007 at 3:03 PM
SECOND LOOK AT rEVOLution!
Allahpundit on December 26, 2007 at 3:01 PM
Fixed
broker1 on December 26, 2007 at 3:04 PM
Bwahahahahahaahahahaha!!!!!!
Freddie boy has brought back that fake BS red pickup truck! AND THE FRED LOONS ARE GONNA LOVE IT!!!!!
You just can’t make this stuff up! Lets see, Fred needs 1/4 million right? Just what in goodness name can Jeri have her eye on that costs 1/4 million bucks?
csdeven on December 26, 2007 at 3:06 PM
Cheney worked well in my opinion. Cheney made an excellent vice president. No doubt he would have been an even better president.
Maybe we could convince Cheney to run!
MarkB on December 26, 2007 at 3:07 PM
Metro-Sexual with gravitas? Wait till Fred gets the NRA endorsement.
Nelsa on December 26, 2007 at 3:03 PM
Childish
MarkB on December 26, 2007 at 3:07 PM
A television ad. In Iowa. Days before the primary.
Now tell me how much of a bargain they are.
MadisonConservative on December 26, 2007 at 3:09 PM
Edited for brevity.
MadisonConservative on December 26, 2007 at 3:10 PM
So give Fred some money, he can use it.
bnelson44 on December 26, 2007 at 3:10 PM
The ONLY CANDIDATE NOT being pushed at us by the RINO Media is the ONE CANDIDATE WHO’S NOT RINO himself- Fred.
Folks, they got us to vote for 8 YEARS of RINO BULLSH*T- DON’T be fooled again!
Rick Moran is calling for a BlogBurst for Fred! 12/27
http://redstate.com/blogs/rick_moran/2007/dec/25/blogburst_for_fred_thompson_12_27
Ex-tex on December 26, 2007 at 3:11 PM
Based on what Tanc said, I think his endorsement for Mitt over Fred said what he thinks about their respective chances for getting the nomination. If Fred has been polling 1st or 2nd consistently in recent months, I think he would have had a better shot. But with his campaign not exactly setting the conservative world on fire and resulting poll numbers, I think Tanc hedged his bets by going with the guy who had the combination of the best chance of winning and enforcing the borders.
thirteen28 on December 26, 2007 at 3:12 PM
I’m afraid I’m skeptical of anyone using the term “gravitas” these days.
And as for gravitas, Mitt is as empty as his suit.
Yet another untrustworthy politician, ‘been drinkin’ the water in Massachussetts. Blech.
If he’s the nom…I will be holding my HEAD, not just my nose and votin’.
tickleddragon on December 26, 2007 at 3:14 PM
Just Added my $25.oo worth. Tiny though it be, the first and only political contribution of my life. Thanks for the heads up.
Nyog_of_the_Bog on December 26, 2007 at 3:16 PM
har dee har har har!!!!
We’ve been waiting for Fred to come leaping out of the bushes for how long now? 2 or 3 months? Or is this all part of his plan? He’s gonna lose every state and still get the nomination because he played a great role an admiral in the Navy or a DA?
The day Fred drops out of the race and absconds with the rest of the Fred loons donations, they will say everyone else in the rep party is stupid, crazy, or part of Romney’s (or whoever) campaign staff!
Sly as a fox? Ppppftttt! He’s either lazy, stupid, or dishonest.
csdeven on December 26, 2007 at 3:16 PM
Before I start the usual ‘Fredhead disclaimer’:
If Fred wants more MSM airtime then Fred needs to do things that make the MSM notice. Yes I believe they ignore him because he would make a strong candidate. One thing the MSM love more then anything…..$. If Fred gives them something to yak on about they will cover it.
As far as Tancredo goes……it hurt Fred in Iowa. The campaign manager is a great pick up but hardly carries the weight that Tancredo does. Fred can offset it with a barn-burner across the state. That is how I hope he is spending my money.
Limerick on December 26, 2007 at 3:17 PM
Hey CS, long time no speak. You still ready to be buyin’ those drinks??
tickleddragon on December 26, 2007 at 3:18 PM
Yeah, that’s what she wants you to believe.
csdeven on December 26, 2007 at 3:18 PM
Ah CS, always there to tell us what fools we be.
tickleddragon on December 26, 2007 at 3:20 PM
250K in 3 days? Isn’t that a slow hour for Ron Paul?
Personally, I am not donating any money for a Fred ad unless Mrs. Fred is in it.
Drew on December 26, 2007 at 3:21 PM
csdeven: please stop with the Fred hating.
Yeah, I go for Romney too, but if my guy doesn’t get the nomination, I would prefer for Fred to get it over any of the rest. And you sometimes go to excesses that just make Romney supporters look bad.
Thanks!
Vanceone on December 26, 2007 at 3:21 PM
Yeah. Who would want an ad at the last minute in one of the most important primaries?
We are such fools. Continue to deluge us with your wisdom. I’m convinced you’ll be pulling for America’s Greatest Patriot in the end.
MadisonConservative on December 26, 2007 at 3:24 PM
Just as George did in Seinfeld’s Bizarro world, I just did the opposite of what CS advises.
I just donated ANOTHER $100 to Fred’s campaign.
POTUS – FRED
VP – Hunter
Sec. DHS – Tancredo
fred5678 on December 26, 2007 at 3:25 PM
sites like this are a stinging rebuke to all republicans
tomas on December 26, 2007 at 3:25 PM
I’m all for that, plus:
Sec. State – Bolton
FloatingRock on December 26, 2007 at 3:28 PM
Then feel free to visit others…
MadisonConservative on December 26, 2007 at 3:28 PM
Yeah, a blogburst for a scumbag lobbyist and lawyer. A guy who helps terrorists and dictators! A scum sucking dog that fights to deny the victims of asbestos poisoning their right to be represented by their attorney! A slimy grease ball that funnels campaign cash to his son!
Oh yeah people! Lets send some money to a guy that is worse than a RINO. He’s a disgusting scumbag!
csdeven on December 26, 2007 at 3:29 PM
Dang skippy!
Hows the leg?
csdeven on December 26, 2007 at 3:30 PM
Yeah. Yeah! YEAH! MMMMMMmmmmmm…ooh. I need a cigarette. Was it good for you too?
MadisonConservative on December 26, 2007 at 3:32 PM
And as for gravitas, Mitt is as empty as his suit.
.
tickleddragon on December 26, 2007 at 3:14 PM
A republican winning in Massachussets; holding a resonably conservative position while Governor there;
Circumstances dictate courses open; Unrealistic actions only invite failure. Governor Romney did well in Massachussets considering his electorate.
So trying to judge Mitt’s actions in Massachusset against the actions of a Republican governor in a more conservative electorate is flawed.
The suit is not empty, thus your statement on Mitt being empty is likewise not applicable.
MarkB on December 26, 2007 at 3:33 PM
C’mon moderators, are you going to let csdeven turn this thread into another retard-a-thon, or are you going to let people actually have a civilized discussion about this topic?
thirteen28 on December 26, 2007 at 3:34 PM
Just as George did in Seinfeld’s Bizarro world, I just did the opposite of what CS advises.
And just like George in another episode of Seinfeld, every time i read one of CSs stupid comments i feel like saying to him “Well,I had Sex with your Wife!”
This guy is such a troll. He’s frickin mental i think. Not even worth responding too. Still worth making fun of though.
amish on December 26, 2007 at 3:39 PM
You’re asking them to do something they have yet to do in almost a year. This is what, the 1,325th time csdeven has written the ’scumbag lobbyist’ drivel on this site alone and NOW, all of the SUDDEN, they will moderate this guy?
Besides, anyone that sticks up for Fred in this place is branded a kool-aid drinking Fredhead automoton. I don’t know who enjoyed reading ’stinging setback’ more, csdeven or AP.
Darksean on December 26, 2007 at 3:40 PM
Michelle says today that she agrees with Thomas Sowell that none of the candidates are exactly what she’s looking for, and yet Sowell says this of Fred…
If we can agree that Fred has the most potential to make a great POTUS. And further, if we can agree that Fred has improved immeasurably with each passing week of campaigning, getting better and better with each debate. Shouldn’t we then BACK FRED 100%??!!
And last, just take a moment and PICTURE a one-on-one debate between FRED and HILLARY. Folks DON’T LIKE Hillary.
Folks LOVE FRED!
Ex-tex on December 26, 2007 at 3:41 PM
Well csdeven has proven to be a troll everywhere he goes. AoSHQ, Restate. The crap he types is nothing compared to what he leaves in his path over at those sites.
And of course, in his posts anyone that says anything bad about his ole buddy Mitt is a bigot or a racist.
broker1 on December 26, 2007 at 3:42 PM
AP criticizes all candidates equally, and most of the time they are thoughtful critiques.
OTOH, csdeven has a huge hard-on for Fred, and the next time he makes a thoughful critique of him it will be his first.
thirteen28 on December 26, 2007 at 3:44 PM
Pro gay marraige
Pro “morning after” pill
Pro gun control
Pro “Brady Bill”
Pro “Universal Health Care”
Failed party leadership i.e. by the end of his tenure the Mass legislature held the fewest Repulican seats since the Civil War.
Just what “reasonable conservative positions” are you refering to?
P. James Moriarty on December 26, 2007 at 3:46 PM
Why are you worried about how Romney is affected by a person who supports him? Only an absolute FOOL would go into a voting booth and not vote for a guy because they don’t like what some random supporter says. The next time one of these Fred loons says that to you, just tell them you are gonna follow them around the blogs telling people how great he is and that you support him 100%. You’ll see the ignorant ass automatically start demanding that he be judged by his own actions and not those of a person who supports him.
Besides, I haven’t decided who I’m supporting yet. Rudy and Mitt look pretty good, and McCain is OK too. The only candidates I have completely eliminated because of their disgusting behavior towards American is Fred. Oh, I guess that’s only one. Heck, even Hillary never helped terrorists or dictators. Fred’s the Danny Glover of the rep party. Danny helps Chavez, and Fred helped Aristead. As an added bonus, Fred helped terrorists and unscrupulous companies who exposed their employees to asbestos. He also gave us McCain/Feingold. And the cherry on the top is that he funnels campaign cash to his family.
Try judging Fred on HIS behavior and not mine. When you do, the depth of his betrayal to America will be quite evident. Blaming me makes the Fred crackpots feel better, but it doesn’t change what Fred is. They lie to themselves and want little old csdeven to carry their burden. I refuse, and will continue to tell them the truth about that dirty lowdown dog.
csdeven on December 26, 2007 at 3:46 PM
I guess we can agree to disagree. Besides, if IF he did criticize all candidates equally, he seems to treat those who support Fred just like Ronbots, which is an affront.
Probably, but in the meantime, he’ll STILL be able to annoy, troll and expertly dissolve any thoughtful discourse that might try to manifest itself around here.
Darksean on December 26, 2007 at 3:48 PM
Proof of idiocy – in the same paragraph, csdeven makes BOTH of these statements:
thirteen28 on December 26, 2007 at 3:50 PM
IIRC, AP is voting for Fred…
amerpundit on December 26, 2007 at 3:51 PM
Knew you were a Ron Paul voter.
MadisonConservative on December 26, 2007 at 3:51 PM
I keep getting the feeling that the votes in Iowa may not follow the polls. Wouldn’t be the first time.
I’m disappointed that Tanc went squishy with his endorsement but then again maybe he had some unpaid campaign costs and Mitt had the cash.
Buzzy on December 26, 2007 at 3:52 PM
Fred needs $250K by Friday. He currently has $24K
https://www.fred08.com/Contribute.aspx?CampaignID=redpickup
bnelson44 on December 26, 2007 at 3:52 PM
csdeven has a huge hard-on
The only hard-on csdeven has is the one that Fred apparently stuck in his ass at some point in the past.
amish on December 26, 2007 at 3:56 PM
I believe the anti-endorsement did hurt Thompson to a degree, but only to the extent that a non-endorsement of anybody by Tancredo would have helped Thompson, or an actual endorsement would have pushed Fred over the edge to victory.
Still, I have no doubt that no matter who Tanc endorsed his supporters are far more likely to support Fred over Mitt. Anyone can see that Tanc was promised much in that meeting with Mitt, including a position in his administration. THAT is a victory for Tanc and if Mitt wins it’s a victory for border enforcement proponents everywhere.
I’m finally going to give to Fred.
Editor on December 26, 2007 at 3:56 PM
LMAO!!!!
And he probably did it with ‘Dueling Banjos’ playing in the background.
Squeal like a pig, csdeven!!
thirteen28 on December 26, 2007 at 3:57 PM
Okay, amish, you’re letting him pull the conversation to sewer level through your response.
MadisonConservative on December 26, 2007 at 3:59 PM
Oh, and by the way, being a bible-thumping evangelical I spend my entire Christmas Holiday with the same types. Every single one of us was for “anybody but Huck”.
He’s a bust.
Editor on December 26, 2007 at 4:00 PM
and 9 minutes later it is +3k. Go Fred!
Limerick on December 26, 2007 at 4:01 PM
‘Leg’s healed nicely, thanks for asking. :)
tickleddragon on December 26, 2007 at 4:08 PM
MarkB, the words “conservative” “politician” and “Massachusetts” should never be uttered in the same sentence. The only way to describe a pol from Mass with “r” next to his name is “Manchurian Candidate.”
tickleddragon on December 26, 2007 at 4:09 PM
…with a Kennedy arm up his back somewhere. ;)
tickleddragon on December 26, 2007 at 4:10 PM
Praise be to Allah P. for blessed link!
Nyog_of_the_Bog on December 26, 2007 at 4:10 PM
Okay, so four posts in before “scumbag lobbyist” made an appearance.
Who had the number four ticket in the “csd-scumbag” raffle?
Harpazo on December 26, 2007 at 4:11 PM
Like all the Fred crackpots, you have yet to defend his behavior as a lobbyist and a lawyer. You clowns never do. You ALWAYS attack little old csdeven.
The thoughtful critique is made by me, not you Fred whackjobs. It don’t matter to you dopes that Fred gave legal advice to terrorists, helped a dictator, gave us McCain/Feingold, funneled campaign cash to his son, and lies about the fact that he is pro-choice. You always claim that those things happened in his “personal” life. Bwahahahahaa!!!! Spare us!
csdeven on December 26, 2007 at 4:15 PM
Tanc’s endorsement of Romney has less to do with his confidence in a Tancredo-esque passion for border security in Romney and more to do with the fact that Romney has (well, had) all the momentum going into the primaries.
I don’t know that Tanc has sold out as much as tried to back the strongest horse — specifically one that he feels has the best chance of continuing to have the national spotlight throughout 2008 (and thus would have the best opportunity to make Tancredo’s message heard).
Sir Tancelot’s candidacy has always realistically been about keeping the demographic, cultural, and security issues surrounding illegal migration on the table and in the spotlight, so I’m not surprised that he would try to pass that torch to the person he felt could hold it up the longest.
Harpazo on December 26, 2007 at 4:18 PM
I wonder why CSD is back, was he banned at the other sites? If so, I think I’m going to go over there. :)
FloatingRock on December 26, 2007 at 4:20 PM
Fred is up to $30K now
https://www.fred08.com/Contribute.aspx?CampaignID=redpickup
bnelson44 on December 26, 2007 at 4:21 PM
Really. Then you don’t recall my rebuttal of just those points about a month ago? You read them cs. Point blank shot between the eyes on your ‘lawyer’ posts. Disproved every single point you made on it. Your response…..’I CAN’T HEAR YOU!’……
Keep up the good work against Fred cs. You have brought people in to really look at the record and the facts behind your allegations. I believe the results of the internet polling shows just how long(I should say short) the legs are on your allegations against Fred.
Now you will repost the NYTIMES fairytale, which is your SOLE backup on your lawyer story. Anyone with half a brain can research the ’source’ and their veracity. Sorry you don’t have enough in you to see just what a foolish position you have taken.
Limerick on December 26, 2007 at 4:24 PM
w00t!
RushBaby on December 26, 2007 at 4:24 PM
Uh, wake up and smell the coffee, a lot of the Fred supporters around here ARE as bat$hit crazy as the Ronbots are.
I am only able to annoy if you ALLOW me to get the best of you. Which, so far, I have been able to do masterfully. Now, if only I can hone this power I have over you to make you Fred kooks send me $100!
Oooooooooowwwweeoooooooo!!! I order you to send csdeven $100! Do it now! Oooooooooowweeeeeeoooooo!!!!
Bwahahahahaha!!!
csdeven on December 26, 2007 at 4:30 PM
Just what does it take to get banned around here? Another thread killed by The Troll.
Hollowpoint on December 26, 2007 at 4:30 PM
You THINK you disproved them. And you probably did to people who are willfully ignorant of the truth. Fred has admitted involvement in everyone of those activities. That’s all that is required. The American people DO NOT buy into the lawyer/lobbyist BS line about “representation”. We all know that we would NOT get involved with those scum even if it cost us our jobs. We want a president that is principled. Even if he’s flawed in an area or two, that’s ok. But being involved with the evil scum who blew up flight 103 over Lockerbie?! Are frickin crazy?! Helping a dictator who hung burning tires around peoples necks?! THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT IN A PRESIDENT!? Good GOD! What the frap is wrong with you people?!
csdeven on December 26, 2007 at 4:37 PM
I really like Fred’s Federalism if he could just stir up some excitement.
Speakup on December 26, 2007 at 4:37 PM
Heya buddy, Merry Christmas.
Saving up for your plane fare and bar tab?
RushBaby on December 26, 2007 at 4:37 PM
Dance 8itch! DANCE! Bwahahahaha!!!
BTW, when are you gonna send me that $100?
csdeven on December 26, 2007 at 4:38 PM
There you have it, folks. He admits his only reason for being here is to annoy people. He has just said he is a troll.
Funny thing is, FDSeven, you DO have the power to make people send someone money. Only thing is, it goes to the person you most hate.
MadisonConservative on December 26, 2007 at 4:39 PM
Do you honestly think anyone here takes you seriously?
I’m not one to attack someone I disagree with but for you, I’ll make an exception. You’re an annoying little weirdo and you have NOTHING of value to contribute. Do us all a favor and cut out the trash or leave.
edgehead on December 26, 2007 at 4:42 PM
Keep up the good work.
JiangxiDad on December 26, 2007 at 4:42 PM
I got banned at redstate, but those guys are too thinned skinned to have any fun, so no big whup. The rest, no. I still blog over there and will continue to long after the Fred crackpots have changed their handles out of sheer embarrassment. I’ve been right about Fred since the day after he spoke at the Lincoln Club in Orange County. I spotted him as a fraud then and he has only reinforced that reputation the more he opens his mouth. Except to his crackpot followers that is. They think he’s God. That is why they attack me. their ashamed.
csdeven on December 26, 2007 at 4:44 PM
He already sent it to Fred’s campaign…. in your name, of course.
Sorry.
ChrisM on December 26, 2007 at 4:45 PM
And their illiterate.
Bob Owens on December 26, 2007 at 4:46 PM
Wow, who’d a thunk that could happen?
thirteen28 on December 26, 2007 at 4:47 PM
Now there’s a ringing endorsement.
Speakup on December 26, 2007 at 4:48 PM
Fred at $34,600 now
bnelson44 on December 26, 2007 at 4:48 PM
So, every person who sends Fred money does so because they are a nutjob….I don’t think they are all nutjobs, but you certainly are for suggesting it.
I mean really, what kind of dope likes or dislikes a candidate because what a random supporter says? You need help dude. Get out of your grandmas basement and into the real world for a day. You’ll soon find out that just because your irrational logic makes that seem plausible to you, doesn’t mean it is reality. The rest of us, ya know, normal rational people, make our decisions based on the CANDIDATE and not a follower.
csdeven on December 26, 2007 at 4:49 PM
csd….
to recap…..your ’source’, the senior partner in the law firm…
1. Offered NO proof. None. Zero. Nada.
2. Said ‘if I recall’ to the NY Times reporter.
3. Is a Clinton campaign supporter and fund raiser.(Do a campaign contribution search). Your rebuttal: He supported Repulican’s too. You are correct…and they are Chuck Hagel and Lincoln Chaffee. Whoopie!
4. The Libyan lawyer stated for the record that he had NO recollection of receiving advise from Fred Thompson.
The total number of follow up articles, by ANYONE in the MSM……….ZERO. All other reports were entirely based on the NYTIMES hit piece. Not even the NYTIMES followed up on it once the facts were laid out in the blogs.
You have nothing CS other then hate. Enjoy that while you can.
Limerick on December 26, 2007 at 4:50 PM
Limerick, cs is a PAID political operative. Barracko & Hillary pay him/her to act a fool on this site. No one would act a fool spreading lies about a candidate daily, hourly or by the minute unless they were paid. Would they? You think cs would act like an ignorant fool for free?
countywolf on December 26, 2007 at 4:57 PM
Yeah, keep telling yourself that. Fred’s people have already admitted his involvement. Same with Aristead etc. But none of that matters to you guys. To you, Fred is the savior of America. Fred almost ALWAYS got himself involved with the scummiest people he could. He went for the money and not principle. You want him for your president because you are so enamored with the guy that you have forgotten what it’s like to be a regular American. The American people hate lawyers and lobbyists. Fred is both, and was involved with scumbags. He is completely unelectable in the real world. In Fred Land, he’s a God, but to the rest of us normal folks who believe in principle over profit, Fred is just another scumbag lawyer/lobbyist.
Enjoy that while you can, because Fred will never get near the Whitehouse. Thank GOD!
csdeven on December 26, 2007 at 4:57 PM
Cry us a river you sissy-Mary.
csdeven on December 26, 2007 at 4:59 PM
Being a Thompson/Hunter/Tancredo/Arpaio kinda guy, I don’t think Tank’s people are to high on Mitt or Huckster.
No matter how much the media wants you to think it.
It aint that media are delusional, they’re just deceitful.
TheSitRep on December 26, 2007 at 4:59 PM
No wait, the only real knock on him is that he is lazy and won’t wear a silly hat.
tommylotto on December 26, 2007 at 5:00 PM
I already had it or I wouldn’t have agreed.
csdeven on December 26, 2007 at 5:00 PM
countywolf on December 26, 2007 at 4:57 PMYes.
Limerick on December 26, 2007 at 5:02 PM
sorry countrywolf that was supposted to be a quote.
Limerick on December 26, 2007 at 5:02 PM
And then there were two. As soon as Bkennedy shows up we can close this thread.
ChrisM on December 26, 2007 at 5:03 PM
countywolf on December 26, 2007 at 4:57 PM
-Wolf
Have been thinking much of the same. Its from American Thinker and does make you do so….Americanly that is…
Nyog_of_the_Bog on December 26, 2007 at 5:06 PM
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