Video: “The Four Horsemen”
posted at 10:40 am on December 24, 2007 by Allahpundit
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I wasn’t going to inflict it on you but NRO decided to ring in the season by extending the middle finger to atheists so now I feel obliged. All proceeds of the DVD sales go to the Ayaan Hirsi Ali Security Trust, so if there’s a special heathen in your life whom you think would enjoy it — and judging from the e-mails I’ve gotten since we posted this in headlines yesterday, there are some around — you might consider it as a belated Christmas present.
If you’re too busy or not in the mood, I’d recommend at least watching the second clip starting at 18:50 and then again especially at 44:50 as they consider Islam and terrorism. Hitchens may be the de facto leader of America’s atheist hawks but he’s unwilling to make the concession that Harris does, that while all religions might be equally untrue, not all are equally dangerous. Hitch also thinks we’re likely doomed to global destruction by theocrats gone mad, although he does name one last, best hope for secularists hoping to stave off that outcome. Watch the clip to see whom he has in mind.
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By the way folks: Merry Christmas and Happy New Yearto all. It is the reason for the season, isn’t it?
sharinlite on December 24, 2007 at 1:06 PM
Allah is just tweaked that yet another holiday has passed and his iphone has not arrived :(
lorien1973 on December 24, 2007 at 1:08 PM
SECOND LOOK AT TALIBAN NUTJOBS!
broker1 on December 24, 2007 at 1:10 PM
How dare anyone mention Atheism on your pagan holiday. Too bad you’re not so offended by the orgy of crass commercialism that your “holiest” day has become. Poor things. I’m sure a good ol’ fashioned witch burning would make it all better.
ronsfi on December 24, 2007 at 1:12 PM
Heh, and since we all know Atheists have declared a War on Christmas, here’s a game to hone your skills, its Joe Cartoon, so consider that your content warning. Joe must have been looking to fasttrack himself for a Internet Police segment with MKH and Bill-O.
Had it as part of my Christmas post.
Bad Candy on December 24, 2007 at 1:18 PM
Oh yeah, hope Santa drops you an iPhone, Allah!
Get the sand out, its making you irritable.
Bad Candy on December 24, 2007 at 1:23 PM
Speaking as an atheist myself, watching four atheists talk to each other about atheism seems, well, tedious. I’m sure they thought it was fascinating.
The Four Horsemen DVD: makes a great Christmas or Hanukkah gift!
saint kansas on December 24, 2007 at 1:23 PM
Pagan holiday…yes the old pagan holiday canard. Actual documentation of what the pagans were celebrating and exactly what rituals they employed in their celebratory process seem to be in rather short supply. No one disputes that there was once, several thousand years ago, a pagan holiday celebrated at approximately the same time of year.
That however is about all Christmas and Saturnalia have in common.
doriangrey on December 24, 2007 at 1:25 PM
I watched both hours yesterday and I was struck by Hitchen’s confession that he didn’t want to see religion eradicated because he’d have no one left to argue with, and his equating all religions as equally dangerous. I think his stance on both give some insight into his thinking on all of it. His is more of a philosophical argument against a concept. The details don’t much matter.
I wish they had spent more time talking about how offended religious people get at any challenge to their beliefs vs the perception that atheists never have any right to be offended by anything a religious person says to them. Because that is very true. We atheists are considered rude and insulting, so therefore any rude and insulting comeback is justified in the theists mind. In that respect, theists are just as bad as liberals when it comes to nasty, dirty, hateful, arguments. Liberals say they wish someone would kill Dick Cheney. Theists delight in the prospect of atheists burning in Hell for all eternity.
How dare Allah post this on Christmas Eve? That “outrage” was predictable.
Religious people really have no clue how offensive they are. The last comment I made on this blog was when that ex-cop shot the church shooter. “God was with me’. Nice. Two young girls were shot and killed before God paid attention that day. Years ago there were three boys in my town who fell through thin ice. Two brothers of about 8 and 10, and the older brothers best friend. Both brothers died, but the friend survived. His grandmother was quoted in the paper saying “God was watching out for him that day”. Nice. I’m sure that gave a lot of comfort to the parents of the two boys God was too busy to save.
Offensive? Doesn’t even begin to cover how hurtful, hateful, and uncaring, religious people can be. And not just about, or to, atheists. That’s very predictable and expected from people whose minds are so warped by their beliefs that you can’t really expect them to treat atheists any differently.
But I’ll never understand their lack of compassion for each other.
Jaynie59 on December 24, 2007 at 1:29 PM
Dennett, Hitchens, et al. are all intelligent people, so they are a step up from your typical Hollywood type preaching the merits of Chavez. But commercial success–the fact that other secularists like their stuff–does not demonstrate that their opinions are better than those of any other educated person. Just as the commercial success of a TV evangelist’s book–driven by sales of religious folk–do not make his or her religious or psychological opinions superior to those of anyone else.
For the most part, reading any of the writings of the ‘four horsemen’ on religion reminds me of listening to students in universities outside the U.S. spouting off about U.S. politics. There’s not much knowledge about the particulars of U.S. politics, and the objects of dispute get homogenized into vague, convenient terms like ‘neo-con’.
We normally expect that traditions as complex as U.S. common law or 19th century German philosophy or Dutch and Flemish Renaissance painting require a great deal of study and knowledge, and sympathetic at that, before a person can make useful criticisms of what is going on them. Andrew Wiles is a world authority about number theory, but don’t expect to see many U.S. law schools inviting him to deliver lectures on the history and importance of 4th amendment Constitutional Law in the United States. Probably shouldn’t pay attention to his stock picks for the entertainment industry either.
jaychandra on December 24, 2007 at 1:30 PM
Heh. I’ll get right on it. BTW that’s a fun game.
ronsfi on December 24, 2007 at 1:30 PM
Heh heh heh that is way to funny…..
doriangrey on December 24, 2007 at 1:33 PM
Dude, its Christmas, lighten the hell up, go play the game I linked or something. Unwind yourself a bit.
Bad Candy on December 24, 2007 at 1:36 PM
This is how I unwind.
Jaynie59 on December 24, 2007 at 1:43 PM
Do you enjoy being a hypocrite? Is there any other dribble you would like to post? More generalities based on false assumptions like throughout that thread? Im sorry you werent hugged as a child.
I dont laugh at you, I dont hate you. I feel pity for you.
broker1 on December 24, 2007 at 1:44 PM
Anyway, Merry Christmas all, except you non-Christians and Godless heathens, may you roast like chestnuts in hell’s furnace! Just kidding, I hope you and have a good Christmas too, or at least a good holiday break or whatever you’re gonna do.
Bad Candy on December 24, 2007 at 1:44 PM
It’s not so hard to find, my holy warrior. You might start with The Golden Bough and move to say, Hero With a Thousand Faces. I warn you that it requires extended periods of “reading” which requires closing your mouth and opening your eyes.
ronsfi on December 24, 2007 at 1:44 PM
Issues, you has them.
Bad Candy on December 24, 2007 at 1:45 PM
Merry Christmas, Bad Candy.
terryannonline on December 24, 2007 at 1:46 PM
You too terryann!
Bad Candy on December 24, 2007 at 1:48 PM
Actually this video is very relevant to the day if people actually watched it as it has a section on Christmas!
BathTub on December 24, 2007 at 1:51 PM
I’m guessing that you don’t know what the term original source material means. I’m sorry to inform you that a book written in 1890 on a holiday that disappeared almost 2000 years ago doesn’t count as original source material.
doriangrey on December 24, 2007 at 1:52 PM
Anytime I see someone say “Read the Golden Bough” I find it akin to the twofers telling me to read “Christianity and the truth about 911″. Sheesh.
broker1 on December 24, 2007 at 1:54 PM
Did someone say “blimp?”
Vinnie on December 24, 2007 at 1:57 PM
Lol whats going on Vinnie…I see you guys have more video on Americas Greatest Patriot! over there.
broker1 on December 24, 2007 at 2:00 PM
There is no leader, de facto or otherwise, of “America’s atheist hawks”, anymore than there is a leader, de facto or otherwise, of “America’s obese hawks” or a leader, de facto or otherwise, of America’s atheist haberdashers.
MB4 on December 24, 2007 at 2:00 PM
Or you could read it and form a qualified opinion.
ronsfi on December 24, 2007 at 2:02 PM
2 Timothy 3:1 – This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. [2] For men shall be lovers of their own selves, … proud, blasphemers, … unholy, [4] … lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God; [13] But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
Romans 1:21 – Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. [22] Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, … [25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie, …
OhEssYouCowboys on December 24, 2007 at 2:06 PM
Fixed
broker1 on December 24, 2007 at 2:08 PM
Are there important historical incidents of Christians killing atheist en masse, some genocide I never heard of?
Maybe that’s why they don’t mind pissing-off Christians.
JiangxiDad on December 24, 2007 at 2:11 PM
Ha!
Merry Christmas Bad Candy – and to everyone else.
nailinmyeye on December 24, 2007 at 2:15 PM
BTW, Chicken.
CTDeLude on December 24, 2007 at 12:40 PM
Clearly, it was egg. I have been offended.
Krydor on December 24, 2007 at 2:20 PM
My non-believer friends have always used the “reason” argument to try to prove that God does not exist. But to me, that argument turns in on itself. If Man has the capacity to understand everything, that fact would preclude the possibility of there being any other entity in the universe with more intellectual and reasoning capacity than Man. There could be no thought or deed that we ourselves cannot accomplish.
At the very point that an atheist admits the very real possibility that a race of beings exists in, say, the Andromeda Galaxy that might have more intellectual or reasoning capacity than human beings, then thy must admit that there probably is a God. Because the logical conclusion to admitting that there may be a race of beings somewhere that has superior intellectual and logical capacities to Man, then they must admit that there is a race of beings that is superior to that race, and so on, until you come to a being that could, and did, create the universe.
Also, the universe started at a specific point in time, and is expanding at an ever-increasing rate, and will eventually grow cold and die. It’s not as if the universe has forever and will forever contract and expand. Therefore, it was intentionally created by some one.
I look at the human relationship to God as, in a way, being similar to the relationship of dogs to humans. Dogs live in an environment largely constructed by humans. Dogs do not have the capacity to understand how that environment works. They can’t understand how a house works, or a car, or an aircraft, or a boat, or a freeway, even though they are in and around those things all the time. You could spend years explaining to your dog how a car works but they just don’t have the capacity to understand. So humans set out certain rules of behavior for their dogs and, as long as the dogs obey those rules, the dogs live a happy and healthy life in harmony with their lords and masters. The headstrong dogs who think they know everything wind up dead beside the road. Hitchens, et al, reminds me of a dead dog beside the road.
jaime on December 24, 2007 at 2:22 PM
Well pissing off Christians is a pretty safe sport, whats the worst that might happen, a group a rabid evangelicals might pray for them? Damn it I bet the thought of that happening makes the Hitch soil his trousers. Or laugh so hard he spills his scotch and water…
doriangrey on December 24, 2007 at 2:23 PM
The atheists don’t want to understand. When your god is yourself, when you worship yourself on the altar of hedonism and narcissism, God simply gets in the way.
As set forth above, Romans 1:22 – Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
OhEssYouCowboys on December 24, 2007 at 2:29 PM
Merry Christmas everyone.
EnochCain on December 24, 2007 at 2:33 PM
Why don’t people beat the crap out of them now and then? I really don’t get that. You Christians saved the world in WWII. I know you have it in you.
JiangxiDad on December 24, 2007 at 2:36 PM
Your thing for Hitchens is getting creepy. NRO insults him, so you are obliged to “extend the middle finger” to at least half of your readers. Great idea.
boring…yawn ()()()()()
redrock on December 24, 2007 at 2:37 PM
When your god is yourself, when you worship yourself on the altar of hedonism and narcissism, God simply gets in the way.
OhEssYouCowboys
My god is an awesome god.
Krydor on December 24, 2007 at 2:38 PM
Sorry about my last comment. It’s Christmas eve. Bad timing for an unnecessary discussion. Merry Christmas too.
JiangxiDad on December 24, 2007 at 2:38 PM
Exactly. I can’t claim to understand it all. That Hitchens does claim it shows his lack.
jaime on December 24, 2007 at 2:41 PM
So are you apologizing for encouraging violence against Atheists or just for doing it on Christmas Eve?
ronsfi on December 24, 2007 at 2:43 PM
Oh, the eternally/sometimes sensitive and offended…what would this thread be if it were eternally boring?
Camus or not, WillBarrett, sarcastic or not, I hope I’m in that “crazy” category. The other is way too boring and predictable. Btw, you’re in this one too :)
fogw, I love you either way, even when you ‘admonish’ the kids. Best of all I love that Live and Let Live. Same here. Which reminds me, from the article – I bet Mr. Hitchens and his family enjoy gifts the same as the rest of us do. Have some mercy and tolerance, the author and all of us.
Enrique, you are hilarious and I love you, and Mr. Hitchens, and AP, and all the not-so-normal Christians, atheists and agnostics here. Happy holidays to all.
This deserves a Tip of the Hat!
Entelechy on December 24, 2007 at 2:46 PM
S/b – what would this
threadsite be if it were eternally boring?Entelechy on December 24, 2007 at 2:48 PM
So I started out a Godless Heathen reading this post then, I read those scriptures and their mystical power transformed. POW! Just like that! Leg humpin’ Jesus freak. PTL! Where do I send my
moneylove gift?ronsfi on December 24, 2007 at 2:48 PM
It’s the solstice, folks. A holy day for our atheist friends. They are welcome to celebrate. Since HotAir has turned into a Christian bashing site run by atheists, I have come to think of it as part of their “Liturgy”.
HerrMorgenholz on December 24, 2007 at 2:51 PM
Just on Christmas Eve, and day I guess. I figure wednesday would be best day to punch an atheist.
JiangxiDad on December 24, 2007 at 2:52 PM
Why would we? The Four Horsemen and other atheists aren’t actually a threat to anyone. In Christian theology the idea of going ballistic on anyone requires that they be a genuine threat to life and property. The spread of atheist philosophy isn’t a life threatening event, it isn’t even a threat to Christianity.
Other than a pretty small segment of the atheist population which is militantly anti-Christian most atheists are fairly nice descent people. Even the majority of the militant anti-Christian atheists are fairly nice when they arent pushing their militant atheism.
The notion of harming an atheist just because they refuse or cannot believe in god pretty much goes against everything that a genuine Christian believes. Have no fear my friend, that ability to defend our lives, the lives of our loved ones and our property is very much still alive in Christianity.
But as I said, it is reserved for those who are a genuine threat, not people who a great many of us are honored to count as friends and fellow countrymen.
doriangrey on December 24, 2007 at 2:52 PM
Froehliche Weinachsten, Herr und Frau Morgenholz.
JiangxiDad on December 24, 2007 at 2:53 PM
Not for that. Just for being annoying twits.
JiangxiDad on December 24, 2007 at 2:54 PM
Herr Morgenholz, Sir, 2 out of 3 main Christian editors/owner, with the visiting See-dub, who’s Christian, and a few others who probably are, hardly makes the “run by atheists”. But you knew this already.
Happy holidays to all here, whatever you celebrate, or opt not to. I won’t hold you in higher/lower esteem because of it.
Entelechy on December 24, 2007 at 2:55 PM
Fröhliche Weihnachten Frau und Herr JiangxiDad :)
Entelechy on December 24, 2007 at 2:58 PM
Oooh! You’re a little tuffy tufferton aren’t you? Threatening people in the comments section of a blog. Careful they can punch back. What other criminal behavior do you advocate?
ronsfi on December 24, 2007 at 2:59 PM
Danke Schoen, JianxiDad.
I’m not thin skinned, but I certainly know when enough is enough. This is just ridiculous, lately.
HerrMorgenholz on December 24, 2007 at 3:00 PM
Guess we can be grateful that AP’s not a vegetarian, or PETAperson,or anti-smoking/drinking.
Also, it could be worse. He could find religion. Remember that weirded out old shriveled atheist who found religion like three minutes before he croaked. That was funny.
JiangxiDad on December 24, 2007 at 3:00 PM
I am an evangelical Bible-believing Christian myself. But I believe this comment only adds confusion, and not clarity, for our atheist friends.
Your Romans 1 passage really deals with idolatry, and that impacts all of us, including Christians.
Your comment overlooks the intellectual barriers that may get in the way for our atheist friends. I believe it is our task as Christians to remove those intellectual barriers by presenting a clear, rational case for the truth of Christianity by being faithful to the Scriptures.
I do not pretend that this will win over every atheist.
After all, Romans 1 does say there is a “heart issue”
(on the ultimate level–it is a “heart issue”. Every one, including atheists, have faith.)
involved in the acceptance or non-acceptance of certain propositions, namely, the existence of God.
But this approach is biblical.
Furthermore, your “when your god is yourself, when you worship on the altar of hedonism and narcissism” quote adds further confusion when atheists look at the lives of supposedly professing Christians.
Are the lives of Christians free from the altar of hedonism and narcissim?
I turn on the TV and see TV preachers, or I look at the best-selling supposedly Christian authors, and I see hedonism and narcissism displayed all the time in the lives of Christians.
I look at my life, and I struggle with sin personally.
My point is, instead of drawing attention to the personal lives of atheists by accusing them of being hedonists, we could decide to draw their attention to Jesus Christ, the Epistemological Logos of the Book of Hebrews and the Gospel of John, the one who brings life to our world.
On an epistemological level, atheism has too many philosophical problems. The question of defeating naturalism or atheism is not the most difficult question.
The harder question for Christians is:
are we able to provide a life-giving alternative to all the false counterfeits this temporal world has to offer?
ColtsFan on December 24, 2007 at 3:01 PM
Protecting your wife and kids and old people.It’s not the punching back I’m afraid of. It’s the lawsuit. Wish we had a lot more punching in the nose and a lot less suing. Probably Texas still works that way. They seem to still do many things right.
JiangxiDad on December 24, 2007 at 3:02 PM
Punch Thyself.
ronsfi on December 24, 2007 at 3:03 PM
“Thyself.” Like that. Seems Christmasy.
JiangxiDad on December 24, 2007 at 3:07 PM
By the way, I have appreciated what you’ve said about this in the past. It changes the topic so much from the usual and simplistic “you can’t prove it” or “you can’t disprove it”, we hear so much.
JiangxiDad on December 24, 2007 at 3:10 PM
Theist: a believer in a personal God.
Atheist: Someone who is not in the above category.
That is all atheist means.
That’s it.
Like:
Bigfootist: a believer in Bigfoot.
Abigfootist: Someone who is not in the above category.
Or:
Goreist: a believer in Al Gore.
Agoreist: Someone who is not in the above category.
Or:
Vampireist: a believer in Vampires.
Avampireist: Someone who is not in the above category.
Or:
Toothfairyist: a believer in the tooth fairy.
Atoothfairyist: Someone who is not in the above category.
MB4 on December 24, 2007 at 3:13 PM
Because atheists fight back. (I’m one of them.)
Oh, really ? How “christian” was the Soviet Red Army ?
Syndic Nuruodo on December 24, 2007 at 3:23 PM
The fighting back is fine. Wasn’t advocating tying your hands up and beating you.
As for the REd Army comment. Thanks. I did forget about that. And certainly is a lot to forget–official atheism I mean. But it’s because I include ordinary Russians in Christian that I did. (In any case, the Germans were Christians, so you might have argued Christians caused the war as well as ended it.)
JiangxiDad on December 24, 2007 at 3:28 PM
You mean the army of the same USSR that allow millions of its peasants to starve in the thirties and murdered millions of its dissidents after WWII? Not very.
Oh, yeah, cool your jets and fix yourself some Christmas/holiday punch. No one wants to beat you up.
baldilocks on December 24, 2007 at 3:30 PM
I had assumed that you were kidding about the “beating up” thing. If not, please advise.
baldilocks on December 24, 2007 at 3:31 PM
Not much, brutha. Just patiently waiting for the yearly “get hammered with the father-in-law” festivities to commence.
Dear God, please don’t let him start talking politics.
I’m actually thankful for Ron Paul this Christmas season. The entertainment value he provides will just keep giving until next November.
Exit question: XBox 360, or PS3?
/chuckle
Vinnie on December 24, 2007 at 3:32 PM
Wii
frreal on December 24, 2007 at 3:38 PM
Heh. My brother-in-law and my granddad had this ritual also. Sadly, Gramps passed away last year (and my dad doesn’t drink) so BIL will hoist one–or more–in memoriam.
Merry Christmas to all.
baldilocks on December 24, 2007 at 3:39 PM
baldilocks on December 24, 2007 at 3:31 PM
JiangxiDad on December 24, 2007 at 3:39 PM
That’s what I thought. :-) Just making sure.
baldilocks on December 24, 2007 at 3:43 PM
Apparently a couple of atheists are taking your mischief personally. Actually, watching that is pretty funny also.
baldilocks on December 24, 2007 at 3:45 PM
SECOND LOOK AT THE SOVIETS!!!!1!11!!!
wccawa on December 24, 2007 at 3:46 PM
JiangxiDad. One of the worst things that happened in Russia after the fall of the Communist regime was a resurrection of “Pravoslaviye”.
The idiotic dogmas of the Russian Orthodox Church are mind-boggling. It’s probably the most ridiculous form of Christianity ever! Russia would be better of without it, imho.
Syndic Nuruodo on December 24, 2007 at 3:49 PM
Right on cue. And s/he took it seriously!
baldilocks on December 24, 2007 at 3:50 PM
My teachers always called me special.
wccawa on December 24, 2007 at 3:54 PM
Hey, watch it there!
I’m still a “kid” at heart ….. and always will be. Think of me as a kid who’s just been around the block a few more times. :-)
Merry Xmas my friend,
fogw on December 24, 2007 at 3:54 PM
Or he could nut up, admit he said something stupid and apologize. But in true chickentihs form he tries to play it off as a joke,(which nobody buys). Why does that sound familiar? Hmm
ronsfi on December 24, 2007 at 4:00 PM
Have some Christmas/holiday punch too. This time, leave off of the spiked version.
baldilocks on December 24, 2007 at 4:02 PM
Sorry. Really don’t know enough about the state of the Russian Church at this moment to comment intelligently on it.
JiangxiDad on December 24, 2007 at 4:04 PM
nah
JiangxiDad on December 24, 2007 at 4:05 PM
Just left you a note on the Bryan/Iraqi-child-adoption thread.
You know the kid I am, and always will be. Having friends like you grants that more so. Merry Christmas to you and family, and so happy for you,
Entelechy on December 24, 2007 at 4:05 PM
Yeah I’ll run right out and do that. But first you must imagine an Atheist making the same “Joke” about assaulting Christians. I’m sure you would all have a good chuckle and say “Why that rascally Atheist! What a wonderfully rogueish sense of humor. Ha ha ha. The jokes on us! Merry Christmas you impish trickster you.”
ronsfi on December 24, 2007 at 4:17 PM
I’m sorry for your apparent “confusion.” Let’s go over this, shall we?
“For men shall be lovers of their own selves … lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God” concerns hedonism and naricissism. That anybody could be “confused” at this plain meaning is … confusing.
That they “became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened” concerns the vanity involved in the worship of oneself, and thus, the rejection of God – which necessarily follows such vanity. One who, out of vanity, makes onself his own god, has room for nothing else. It’s kind of like not being able to worship both money and God. There is room for only one.
I’m afraid that your desire to wax philosophic about the Scripture quoted above may be the reason for your ongoing claims of “confusion.” Is it projection on your part? Does your philosophy trump the clear meaning of Scripture? In this regard, and unlike you and others who desire to enter into philosophical discussions ad nauseum about Scripture [thus placing philosophy above Scripture], I do not intend to enter into another 20 posts, in an effort to respond to your anticipated 40 philosophical posts.
That’s the problem with trying to turn Scripture into a philosophical discussion. Sometimes, if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck – it is a duck. Notwithstanding any philosophical desire to make it a goose. The Scripture that I quoted is clear and unambiguous – and no philosophical discussion can change this fact.
OhEssYouCowboys on December 24, 2007 at 4:23 PM
Why you bringing AP into this?
(Are you a guy or a girl?)
JiangxiDad on December 24, 2007 at 4:24 PM
baldilocks on December 24, 2007 at 3:39 PM
My sympathies for your loss.
My blimp has arrived, so it’s time to start the celebration. Merry Christmas to everyone at Hot Air, posters and commenters alike.
Vinnie on December 24, 2007 at 4:26 PM
You are wrong on a couple of points above.
Remember it is so easy to take jabs at atheists and possess a disrespectful, condescending tone.
The real challenge is to obey Scripture by possessing a Christ-honoring humble attitude that accurately understands that the spiritual idolatry of Romans 1 applies to everyone, including professing Christians. All of us are idol-makers.
The human heart is an idol-factory.
ColtsFan on December 24, 2007 at 4:36 PM
The atheist acts in furtherance of hedonism, narcissism and vanity BECAUSE of his religion – the worship of himself.
The Christian acts in furtherance of same in CONTRAVENTION of his religion.
Your attempt to equate the two is misguided. The Christian is a sinner. It is impossible for him to not be. Thus, Jesus Christ was necessary. The atheist knows no sin, because his god doesn’t recognize it in his acts of hedonism, narcissism and vanity.
OhEssYouCowboys on December 24, 2007 at 4:53 PM
Have a Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, or ummm, a savvy solstice!
gator70 on December 24, 2007 at 5:01 PM
Take care Vinnie, Im heading to brothers here soon as well for some booze and brownies.
Tell everyone over there at Jawa Merry Christmas will ya!
broker1 on December 24, 2007 at 5:05 PM
The truth is depressing?
From Luke Chapter 2 starting at the 9th verse:
An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid. I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord. This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.” Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God and saying, “Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace to men on whom his favor rests.”
The truth doesn’t depress me at all. It gives me great hope for the future.
Merry Christmas to all.
alilianstrom on December 24, 2007 at 5:16 PM
I am irritated as hell with Allah right now, but to criticize him for posting this is ludicrous.
I don’t choose to watch this right now because I don’t wish to poison my Christmas with cranks like Hitchens and company, but I think it’s important and will check it out in a few days. I also welcome an opportunity to help out Aayan Hirsi Ali.
Meanwhile since Allah says he is short on material, here is a sweet and charming story from Politico. The title should serve as ample warning for those who might get their hackles up that I am posting this.
Romney knows Bupkis.
Merry Christmas to all!
Buy Danish on December 24, 2007 at 5:21 PM
Oh you are soooo in trouble now buddy boy…Speaking ill of the almighty Hitch and the Mitten in the same post…Allahpundit shall surely smite you with a terrible pestilence now…
doriangrey on December 24, 2007 at 5:27 PM
I have seen the first half hour or so of the video, and I wasn’t offended. Imputing offensive motives to AP misses the point.
He wants hits to HotAir and this thread seems to be successful towards that end.
AtomicAmish on December 24, 2007 at 6:01 PM
You’re very good at catching when I’m so in trouble :-)
Did you read the story? Quite the misleading headline. It does not speak ill of the Mitten at all. Besides, I am irritated with Allah because of the manner in which he chose to he speak ill of the Mitten, not the other way around.
Buy Danish on December 24, 2007 at 6:13 PM
Well I gots to do something with my free time… ;P
doriangrey on December 24, 2007 at 6:50 PM
A charming offering on Christmas Eve however,
just as Hitch starts to get insufferable (Amish=Jihadists)
he says the 82nd Airbourne is the only defense against theocracy. That’s why I love the man.
RobCon on December 24, 2007 at 7:04 PM
I’m not offended AP, and I hope you won’t be offended that I prefer not to watch a self egrandizing ass know it all explain to me why I am a fool for participating in a cult holiday and belonging to an idiotic group that acually believes in a supreme being and the hearafter.
I think instead I will try to enjoy my cult holiday and wish Mr. Hitchens a Merry Christmas.
conservnut on December 24, 2007 at 8:04 PM
I’d be willing to bet that no Christian on this blog even bothered to watch the two videos posted. It’s understandable, of course, but still disappointing in two ways: that I had to read through comments from people here discussed in the video and that some people are so adamant in their misguided beliefs that they can’t even bother to watch a discussion on religion by people who don’t share their belief.
Nonfactor on December 24, 2007 at 8:48 PM
You lose.
baldilocks on December 24, 2007 at 9:28 PM
I’d be willing to bet that no Christian on this blog even bothered to watch the two videos posted. It’s understandable, of course, but still disappointing in two way
aengus on December 24, 2007 at 9:42 PM
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