Pat Buchanan: If Fred tanks in Iowa, he’ll drop out and endorse … McCain
posted at 10:38 pm on December 20, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Yup, probably. They’re old friends from their McCain-Feingold days in the Senate, they’re in sync on the war, and the only alternative is Romney, whom Fred was knocking just today for flip-flopping. There’ll be some discomfort in boosting a guy whose views on immigration are so different from his own, but Mitt’s were the same as McCain’s as recently as last year so that’s easily explained away.
Will Fred’s endorsement do McCain any good, though? The Fredheads here hate him, and if it comes to the point where Thompson’s polling so poorly that it’s not even worth hanging around for South Carolina, how many votes will he reasonably be able to deliver? Not enough to steal SC from Huck and Mitt, probably, but maybe enough to make McCain’s showing respectable enough (second place?) to give him a little momentum going into Florida, where he’ll try to siphon off Rudy’s moderates.
Exit question: If Fred finishes fourth in Iowa, does he pull a Tancredo and throw his weight to the best man left or soldier on, essentially hopeless, to Carolina?
Update: For what it’s worth, Politico says Team Thompson is near broke. Another case study in the limits of blogospheric influence: He’s the runaway favorite of righty bloggers and blog readers and he’s flagging everywhere.
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Fred will do better than all the polls and media think in Iowa, And the WORLD!
TheSitRep on December 20, 2007 at 10:41 PM
Dang, we were just talking about this in the other thread. I’m tempted to c/p my comment over. But I think it’s coming, and you can tell a lot by which people escape criticism (Richardson’s effusive praise for Clinton for ex). If Fred’s coffers are dry, it’s Iowa or bust.
Spirit of 1776 on December 20, 2007 at 10:41 PM
I’m going to enjoy, in a schadenfreudean way, the splash of cold water in the face of the Fredheads on Jan. 3.
Allahpundit on December 20, 2007 at 10:44 PM
Why do I hear so many pundits talk down Iowa as not-so-important for the Republicans but then hear folks here wanting to write candidates off so quickly?
MT on December 20, 2007 at 10:46 PM
If Fred is gone before Colorado I’ll probably just sit it out. I just am not happy with the others. If he does endorse McCain I’ll puke.
boomer on December 20, 2007 at 10:46 PM
Allah. Enough already! Pat Buchannan?
Oh, puhleez.
centralcal on December 20, 2007 at 10:46 PM
First reaction: Pat Buchanan….(*kaf-hak*)
Second: I’m not done with Fred. Lots of bells tolling around here today. I’ll stick it out as long as he does.
Third: Yep, if he drops out he’ll go with McCain. I’ll go with Mitt. Whoever gets the nom (except Paul) gets my vote. I don’t hate McCain. I don’t like his immigration stand. The rest I can live with if we can beat the Dems.
Limerick on December 20, 2007 at 10:47 PM
Heartache. As much as I admire McCain, the man, I’d never support him in the primaries because of his RINO betrayals on the most key issues of late.
petefrt on December 20, 2007 at 10:48 PM
Hmmmmm…. If the choice comes down to an open borders candidate or an open borders candidate, I’ll take what’s behind door number three.
FloatingRock on December 20, 2007 at 10:50 PM
I’m no Fredhead, but he seems to me to be the best conservative option we’ve got. The thought of him vs. the MSM for 4 years brings a smile to my face too. I’m with Fred… Romney if he drops.
MT on December 20, 2007 at 10:50 PM
Fred’s alliance with McCain is why I’ve never been able to put an exclamation mark after Fred.
I don’t doubt that he’ll support his old friend though. Will the Fredheads follow?
Buy Danish on December 20, 2007 at 10:50 PM
If only Fred hadn’t been so indecisive about throwing his hat in the ring or so lazy once he did.
Now he’s just irrelevant.
cool breeze on December 20, 2007 at 10:52 PM
He is?
bnelson44 on December 20, 2007 at 10:54 PM
An endorsement of McVain would show a monumental lack of judgment.
Valiant on December 20, 2007 at 10:54 PM
Im with Fred, but if he goes down, Im goin with Mitt.
JVelez on December 20, 2007 at 10:54 PM
(I just knew Allah was part of that east coast conservative cabal)
Limerick on December 20, 2007 at 10:54 PM
He crushed the field in MM’s online poll today and he regularly crushed the field in RWN’s blog surveys.
Allahpundit on December 20, 2007 at 10:55 PM
I’m not the biggest fan of McCain, but if it came to it, I could vote for the guy in the face of… er, certain alternatives.
DaveS on December 20, 2007 at 10:56 PM
Some thoughts on Fred
Some thoughts on Conservatism
Stand on principle. If Fred drops out before Duncan Hunter, thats who I will support. I don’t care who he endorses.
Jay on December 20, 2007 at 10:57 PM
He crushed the field in my poll I did too, but the Ron Paulians gave him a run for his money.
Jay on December 20, 2007 at 11:00 PM
Silver lining. Whoever we end up picking, it won’t be Rudy.
Jay on December 20, 2007 at 11:01 PM
I like both Mitt and Fred, but I have to tell you if Fred drops out and endorses McCain, I will lose ALL respect for him!
davenp35 on December 20, 2007 at 11:02 PM
What if Jeri does the speech? She is charming;)
Spirit of 1776 on December 20, 2007 at 11:03 PM
Interesting. Thanks.
bnelson44 on December 20, 2007 at 11:03 PM
If Fred pulls out and endorses McCain it will just prove what some have said about him all along but I’m not all that impressed that this discussion was started by something Buchanan said. I’ll never vote for McCain!
Buzzy on December 20, 2007 at 11:03 PM
It’s time for the retiring Baby Boomers and their IPod spawn (or is it Gen Y spawn?) to to find out what the Misery Index is all about. High inflation and high unemployment! It should be fun! Let’s throw high taxes in there as well and we’ve got a perfect socialist state. The spawn should have fun competing with the illegals when they try to get jobs to pay for their xbox, mobile phone and cable tv.
Maybe after 4 years of it we’ll make a rightward turn again (e.g. another Reagan?). Unfortunately, we’ll have a couple more ACLU judges on the Supreme Court to make sure the needy class survives.
There’ll be a lot of conservatives sitting out this election if all the big boys support McCain-Fiengold, McCain-Amnesty, McCain-the Keaton 5.
BowHuntingTexas on December 20, 2007 at 11:05 PM
He waited too long to make it official, perhaps? No one likes a tease! We’ll see.
SouthernGent on December 20, 2007 at 11:06 PM
With Fred’s hopes diminishing, I’m going to put off choosing a new favorite until it’s Arizona’s turn. Even then, I’ll probably vote against Rudy & Huck, picking whoever can beat them.
jgapinoy on December 20, 2007 at 11:06 PM
I just got an email from Fred’s Campaign saying they just raised $50,000 in a few hours and wanted to double that tonight
William Amos on December 20, 2007 at 11:08 PM
Are you sure it’s wise, in a retail sense, to chortle at such a large percentage of your readers’ discomfiture and sincere disappointment in such a way? I’m thinking Fred supporters are going to be in no mood to be mocked on that day.
aero on December 20, 2007 at 11:09 PM
And they just got a little more from me. I don’t understand why so many people seem to be so quick to write off Fred. To me he’s the only true conservative with a chance. Rudy and Romney are too liberal for my tastes.
Afterimage on December 20, 2007 at 11:13 PM
From Rasmussen
Rassmussen Reports
William Amos on December 20, 2007 at 11:13 PM
Oh please. Maybe Huffpo will have some hankies for you.
Bradky on December 20, 2007 at 11:14 PM
To show my steel (well aluminum maybe) just sent in more to Fred.
Seems like all them rightwingbloggers who feel he is the best should do the same.
Limerick on December 20, 2007 at 11:15 PM
I like Fred and his positions a lot, but he has never polled much better than single digits. I could say the same for Tancredo and Hunter. Unless Fred gets some traction and momentum soon, I’m not throwing away my vote on him. I’m not willing to vote for Huckabee or McCain, so my choices are looking pretty slim.
cool breeze on December 20, 2007 at 11:17 PM
Reading your comment caused me to wonder if Buchanan might have an ulterior motive here. Perhaps he realizes that Fred supporters don’t like McCain’s policies and has launched a torpedo into the water aimed at Fred.
I’m not saying this is the case, but I would suggest not developing any resentment toward Fred based on anything that Buchanan has said.
If it is a ploy to increase Fred’s negatives Fred will probably release a response shortly…
FloatingRock on December 20, 2007 at 11:18 PM
Whomever I choose always goes down fast and hard. As I said in one of the headlines, the guy I choose always drops off the ballot before I get a chance to vote for him. Every time. And it’s not just that I choose badly–I can choose the frontrunner and he’ll suddenly and unexpectedly tank after I jump on board.
I supported Giuliani (he’s still my second choice), and now he’s plummeting in the polls. I switched to Fred, and he’s barely holding on.
I’m kryptonite. The kiss of death. Want me to endorse Huck for you Slublog? Here you go:
I HEREBY ENDORSE HUCKABEE!
That should do it for Huckabee. He’ll crash and burn within a week. ;-)
aero on December 20, 2007 at 11:19 PM
AP trashes Fred twice in two days, makes the first post disappear within twelve hours, then tries to save himself with the second. Classy.
All three of you owe people apologies.
Cheap. Cheap shots.
So ban me.
wccawa on December 20, 2007 at 11:20 PM
Heh. I can’t wait to hear this one. Pray tell, what ulterior motives might be at work here? And others, myself included, who have hypothesized this before - would that be the same motive?
Spirit of 1776 on December 20, 2007 at 11:22 PM
The mere potential of Fred endorsing McCain is proof positive he is not the guy who belongs in the oval office. I’d rather see Hillary in than McCain.
McCain screwed us on immigration, as a republican, he betrayed his party. Hillary too is screwing us on immigration but that is to be expected, as she is a democrat. At least she didn’t betray her party.
voiceofreason on December 20, 2007 at 11:23 PM
Welcome back, Bradky. Where ya been?
The nasty attitude seems a bit uncalled-for. You do realize that there are by far more Fred supporters here than detractors, yes? That’s all I was pointing out to Allah–that he might want to tone down the gloating when it’s almost half his readership he’s risking pissing off when this comes to pass. But knowing Allah, that won’t deter him. It’s okay, I’m sure the loyal readers can take it. And if we can’t, there are other blogs that I’m sure Allah will happily point out we can frequent instead.
aero on December 20, 2007 at 11:27 PM
I’m going to enjoy, in a schadenfreudean way, the eating of crow by AllahP on Jan. 3.
MadisonConservative on December 20, 2007 at 11:28 PM
Lol. That’s funny. It’s going to be freaky though when his numbers start to plummet.
I don’t understand why people get worked up about this. Yeah, that AP is a real punk, he put up new posts so the old ones slide down the page. I can’t believe he updates this blog! I’m outraged. It’s a deep and sinister plot too, Byran was even involved…his fingerprints are everywhere. But if you want to revisit it, here it is in the vault for posterity’s sake.
Spirit of 1776 on December 20, 2007 at 11:28 PM
I assume you know that Allah was regularly (and correctly) predicting “You know we’re going to lose” for months before the 2006 elections.
cool breeze on December 20, 2007 at 11:29 PM
HE!! NO!
91Veteran on December 20, 2007 at 11:30 PM
Well if he is right about 08 also then I’m going to consider that double-bagging technique myself.
Limerick on December 20, 2007 at 11:30 PM
Allah is not to blame for fred’s problems Fred is to blame for that. And Im a Fred backer
That said I dont understand why the Huckarush. But then I remember that in 2004 Howard Dean was frontrunning in Iowa and New Hampsire. And fell off the map
William Amos on December 20, 2007 at 11:31 PM
And if Fred and Rudy falter I would rather vote for McCain than Mitt or Huckabee. They might be the same on immigration but at least McCain is strong in the WOT
William Amos on December 20, 2007 at 11:32 PM
I have no idea what Buchanan’s motive might be or if he has any, I don’t know much about Buchanan at all, but if there is a motive behind it other than the truth it would probably be of similar intent as the Politico piece about the fireman’s hat.
Basically, most Fred supporters don’t like McCain’s open borders and 2nd amendment position, IMO, so if somebody claims that Fred is going to drop out and betray his supporters, (in a manner of speaking), by endorsing McCain, and as a result a certain percentage of Fred’s supporters develop resentment toward Fred, and perhaps bail on him before Fred is actually done…. Need I say more?
I’m don’t recall what you and other’s have hypothesized, can you summarize it? My impression is that Fred is a strong supporter of Israel, maybe that’s Buchanan’s problem, if any?
FloatingRock on December 20, 2007 at 11:35 PM
You are right. We need the Huckster to have his Howard Dean or Gary Hart moment soon and get his supporters to give Fred a second look.
cool breeze on December 20, 2007 at 11:40 PM
Just that if Fred dropped out his supporters would go to McCain and vis versa. The opposite seemed more likely in the past, that McCain would endorse Fred, but they go together imho. Friends, political history, etc. There is enough space between them on the issues (as you noted) to justify two candidacies, but at the end of the day one will support the other.
Ahhh. I see what you are saying. Well Pat is persona non grata in the Republican party after his Reform party run, and the only personal connection I know of was his sister was Tanc’s C.Manager, and as we know that party is over. I think he is just calling it as he sees it.
Spirit of 1776 on December 20, 2007 at 11:41 PM
Yeah, I do know that. I said it the whole time too. And, like Allah, I’m quite sure this current primary angst is all moot because the Dems are going to win the White House and both houses of Congress in 2008 as well. (The country has been trending inexorably leftward for a couple of years now, even though the Dem Congress can’t seem to get a darn thing done and the war is looking up.) But I can’t keep up with Allah’s supreme level of pessimism. I can’t quite squash the hope that wells up inside me from time to time. I still get excited at the idea that maybe, just maybe Republican voters will suddenly use their brains and choose an actual conservative candidate. And maybe, just maybe we can turn this national trend toward socialism around. But I’m really pretty sure we won’t. The difference is, I’m not going to laugh with pleasure at my fellow conservatives’ genuine disappointment when it all comes to pass. That just seems exceedingly unkind (and unwise), even for Allah’s sharp style.
Don’t get me wrong. I very much enjoy Allah’s wit and writing style–I come here every day and comment a lot because I enjoy HotAir very much. I won’t stop coming here if he laughs at the Fredheads’ discomfiture on Feb. 3rd. I just think it’s not the best choice he can make as a person whose professional success depends on lots and lots of us liking him enough to keep coming back every day for more.
aero on December 20, 2007 at 11:41 PM
He knows what he did. I watched it all morning long. I even pulled screen shots. I’ve seen him do it before.
No matter.
Everyone is for or against something. I have no problem with that. But a blog of this caliber can’t pull the crap they did last night. That was knife work. And Michelle knows it.
I repeat: Hot Air owes its readers an apology.
Then let the chips fall where they may. That’s all I’m saying. Rudy. Mitt. Fred. Huck. Call your guy. Champion him. Argue it out. It will all play the way it was meant to play.
I’m a Fredhead, and I support this rant.
wccawa on December 20, 2007 at 11:42 PM
If Fred endorses McCain I will have to conclude that Fred’s views on illegal immigration were not as he said.
MB4 on December 20, 2007 at 11:42 PM
Fred could have easily gotten my vote in the primary, with a little more energy and just a hint that he wanted this and would get after it, and I would still happily vote for Fred in the general election. Same with Mitt and to a lesser extent, Rudy.
I could vote for Duncan, but he clearly isn’t equipped for this.
I will not vote for The Schmuckster.
Hey, I wonder if a whiny isolationist who just so happens to be right about everything else might make a good VP choice? The war thing might be a little … inconvenient, but what the heck, it’s politics, right?
Jaibones on December 20, 2007 at 11:44 PM
IF Fred! drops after Iowa, I’ll go hari kari. (maybe Harry Caray)
But seriously folks, my love for Fred! will have to be pried out of my cold, dead hands.
omnipotent on December 20, 2007 at 11:44 PM
I feel like the one who bet on the horse no one thought would win and coming around the track, in the last lap, it looks like he just might.
Rightwingsparkle on December 20, 2007 at 11:46 PM
Here comes the Carter era Misery Index when the harridan takes office. A lot of folks will be sitting out. At least with her people will know what to expect (unemplyoment, high inflation, high taxes, being laughed on the world stage, etc.).
Here come the 1970’s popular “We’ve got ourselves a convoy” songs.
BowHuntingTexas on December 20, 2007 at 11:48 PM
I love HotAir, but I tend to agree that the “fireman’s helmet” post was painful and embarrassing for me to read. And not because of my support for Fred!, but of my love for Michelle!, Allah! and Bryan! (BTW, where’s Stak been?)
omnipotent on December 20, 2007 at 11:49 PM
Sparkle, I’ll definitely give you props for sticking with that horse. He is getting stronger in the homestretch. The only problem is that you and he and our then soon-to-be amnestified visitors are the only ones holding the winning ticket.
Spirit of 1776 on December 20, 2007 at 11:50 PM
You do know that Fred has been to almost 20 states since he announced in late September, right? No? Well, he has. Is that enough of a “hint” that he wants this and is going after it? Don’t fall for the media’s freeze-out. Fred’s been working his butt off, but you’d never know it because the media doesn’t bother to cover his press releases or his appearances. Some media outlets even pulled their embedded reporters from his campaign because they apparently decided on our behalf that Fred is not worth our consideration. Fred is apparently not the best campaigner, but he’s not lazy like they claim, and he’s not lacking motivation to win this thing.
aero on December 20, 2007 at 11:53 PM
Consider for a moment. Did you have to go somewhere else to see the video? No, AP posted it here. So the ‘redeeming’ evidence, such as it was - relating to that part of the article - was also brought to you by the guy you say knifed your candidate.
Spirit of 1776 on December 20, 2007 at 11:54 PM
Buchanan is also an ass-clown, so who (in their right minds) gives a
f*ckdamn?omnipotent on December 20, 2007 at 11:55 PM
1. I question the timing!
2. Could he/they really post about Politico’s hitpiece hours after posting, but ignore the video. The commenters here are too astute and intenets-savvy to be taken for that ride and he/they know it.
omnipotent on December 20, 2007 at 11:57 PM
Allah, you’re a complicated dude. A couple of days ago you say Fred’s your guy (albeit with a gun to your head). Now you gleefully take pleasure in his demise (or Nutjob Pat Buchannan’s description therof)?
Just remember, a “Fredhead” is just a conservative who’s passionate and excited about their candidate. How many people (besides Hugh Hewitt) are truly jazzed about their guy? Not many. That’s why the polls have been all over the map.
I’ll probably sit out if McCain gets it. He is the definition of RINO and I won’t have any part of him.
edgehead on December 20, 2007 at 11:57 PM
I read that too. That’s a bad thing. Even if he does something brilliant on the road, there will be less coverage now. When campaigns are on the way up, they add reporters. When on the way down, they take them away. He needs to get excitement stirred up again in Iowa. He has to get back into the conversation and he has to make it relevant. IF they do have another debate, he would be the big winner just by the opportunity.
Spirit of 1776 on December 20, 2007 at 11:59 PM
It ain’t over til the fat lady sings.
Allahpundit on December 20, 2007 at 10:44 PM
AP this is beneath you. The Fredheads here have shown you nothing less than all their collective mudita. And since your showing favorites, who would collect your support as a better candidate with a chance at this point in the competition? And anybody… who is Michelle behind anyway?
Griz on December 20, 2007 at 11:59 PM
You can say that again … at least with respect to one of them.
It will certainly raise that question.
Of course, this being Politico, I will take it with a grain of salt.
thirteen28 on December 21, 2007 at 12:00 AM
nonfactor (sorry Nonfactor). In the last week I have seen two posts from Iowa voters. There might have been more but I didn’t see them. What was posted here, and that thread, has nothing what-so-ever to do with what is happening on the ground in Iowa.
Limerick on December 21, 2007 at 12:00 AM
We all have a stake in each other. ! .
Griz on December 21, 2007 at 12:00 AM
Allah is at least as much a realist as a pessimist. I wouldn’t want to have Hot Air turn unto a consevative version of Daily Kos, with all kinds of nonsense about the nutroots crashing the gates.
I agree with almost everything else you wrote, but I disagree with the idea that the Dems winning the White House in 2008 is inevitable.
What kills me is that, just as the Democrats were about to nominate their least electable candidate, the evangelical wing of the Republican party decided to back our least electable candidate.
cool breeze on December 21, 2007 at 12:01 AM
As I’ve said before, presidential elections can turn on just a few hundred votes in certain swing states these days. That makes it critical to keep our increasingly fragile coalition together this year. Every one of our top five candidates except Fred has something about him that (fairly or unfairly) will cause some significant segment of the party to threaten to stay home:
Giuliani: abortion
Romney: Mormon faith
Huckabee: fiscal liberalism
McCain: amnesty
I believe these groups now when they say they’ll stay home. How willing are we to risk a few hundred Floridians of any of these groups following through on the threat to sit it out? This is one of the main reasons I chose Fred. Simple pragmatism.
aero on December 21, 2007 at 12:06 AM
I agree, if pollsters told us 80% of America was for amnesty, would we believe it…..I think not.
Trust your brains folks and vote for your guy regardless of what the MSM and pollsters tell ya.
omnipotent on December 21, 2007 at 12:06 AM
If Fred Drops out, I’m voting for Ron Paul, just to piss in Allahpundit wheeties/coffee/beer…….
doriangrey on December 21, 2007 at 12:06 AM
You have an exacting standard. Don’t post the video = conspiracy to defame. Post the video = conspiracy to cover-up. Oh well. Fred-heads did get shafted, but not by AP, by R. Simon.
Spirit of 1776 on December 21, 2007 at 12:07 AM
Thanks for the welcome back. Work release finally let me touch a key board again! ;)
I’m for Rudy myself and he gets plenty of hits around here. I just don’t take it personal.
Bradky on December 21, 2007 at 12:10 AM
Exacting standard - correct
I never claimed conspiracy to defame, only a CYA with the video. But point taken.
Anyone who repeats Politico tripe (fresh off the dung heap) needs to know they may need to wash their hand in the near future.
omnipotent on December 21, 2007 at 12:11 AM
Way too many comments to read. Thank you for your service, Mitt, Paul, Huck, and Hunter supporters!
I will continue to send Fred $$ as if FRED! is my hunting buddy that also happens to be the next POTUS. Mitt is OK except Mitt is maleable. I want a president that is unmalleable.
I willsupport Fred to the logical end.
Limerick…….thanks.
AZCON on December 21, 2007 at 12:12 AM
“Near Broke?”
wth! I wired him 25$ earlier today!
amend2 on December 21, 2007 at 12:16 AM
aero-you’re the man,
AZCON on December 21, 2007 at 12:16 AM
Excellent analysis and a good reason to support Fred, but there has to be some reason why he isn’t getting any traction.
OK, but there are limits. I’ll vote for Fred even if he is consistently 5%-10% behind, but not if he is consistently getting only 5%-10% of the vote.
cool breeze on December 21, 2007 at 12:16 AM
I’ll give up on FRED. I will ignore .. call me a denier again… all the polls and op eds.
amend2 on December 21, 2007 at 12:17 AM
er.. opps WILL not..
amend2 on December 21, 2007 at 12:17 AM
no its not fruedian.. er NO its not
amend2 on December 21, 2007 at 12:18 AM
erm….lost me…but that isn’t hard to do.
Limerick on December 21, 2007 at 12:18 AM
Actually, I’m the woman. But thanks! I’ll take it as a compliment. ;-)
aero on December 21, 2007 at 12:20 AM
Fred is the anti MSM.
Think for yourselves and the country will respect your decision.
AZCON on December 21, 2007 at 12:21 AM
Here’s the truth (I think, lol): You want it more than he does. He might make a great president, and he may have a trick up his sleeve I’m not seen, but the short of it is - you want it more than he does. And it’s been that day since day one. This is the candidate that the grassroots “drafted”. The one that “answered the call”. It’s kind of sad actually, maybe disappointing is the better word.
Still, who knows. Huck when wild with little dough. The fat lady hasn’t sung, er caucused yet.
Spirit of 1776 on December 21, 2007 at 12:22 AM
Ditto.
ColtsFan on December 21, 2007 at 12:28 AM
aero-compliment given in the most respectful way. Go girl! Human species love to you!
Limerick-you are the Fred-Rock, you may not see it, but there you are!
AZCON on December 21, 2007 at 12:29 AM
I would suggest you read the original post and comments, but unfortunately, HA has seen fit to make it unavailable less than 24 hours after their “brutal” (quote: Michelle) story. Why? They screwed up. And they don’t know how to recover. Far better to distract their readers with humping robots and Led Zeppelin videos.
Lucky for you, I’m happy to pass along the link that AP decided to bury:
Make up your own mind. We’re all intelligent and can come to our own conclusions.
But I allege that HA hit this story hard, they overran their facts, they pushed it too far and ended up eating crow. They’re embarassed.
And they don’t know how to apologize.
If necessary, I would take a “ban” as a token of honor at this point.
I’m a Fredhead, and not only do I approve this message, I am ramming it down your throat.
wccawa on December 21, 2007 at 12:34 AM
Lol. That would be the link I’ll left for you @ 11:28. Looking back, I’m shocked to find I was there for the whole thing:) The answer to your question, is, uh, they didn’t. It’s still there. It will still be there tomorrow. Fresh stories move it down the page my friend. Anyway, I’m going to leave you to stew with your anger. Even if it were justified, what good does that do you? Good luck with that.
Spirit of 1776 on December 21, 2007 at 12:43 AM
If a child or a pet is behaving badly the traditional way to correct that behavior is though some form of discipline. If the Republican Party wants my vote they need to provide me with a candidate that believes in the 2nd amendment, Bill of Rights and national sovereignty and defense. Short of that I feel that discipline is required.
If McCain or another of the open-border candidates is selected I hope the Republican Party is severely disciplined in ‘08, (sorry faithful Republicans), so that next time they will hopefully learn from their mistakes and correct their bad behavior by selecting a qualified candidate.
FloatingRock on December 21, 2007 at 12:49 AM
I really hope Fred pulls through.
Bad Candy on December 21, 2007 at 12:49 AM
Fred could have endorsed whomever he wanted and not been left out in the cold, except for Ron “coo-coo for coco-puffs” Paul. Why he actually chose McCain is a mystery to me. I can’t stand McCain, or his politics, and I’ll sooner vote for the Defeatocrat candidate, or a 3rd party, before I’d ever vote for RINO McCain.
If only Duncan Hunter had the name recognition and the money *sigh*
SilverStar830 on December 21, 2007 at 12:49 AM
Whoa, Silver! Fred hasn’t endorsed anyone but himself yet! This is just a rumor–speculation on Buchanan’s part. Fred may well endorse McCain if and when he drops out, but this is just fiction for now.
aero on December 21, 2007 at 12:57 AM
When did Fred announce that he was chosing McCain?
News2Use on December 21, 2007 at 12:58 AM
Hey, I appreciate it, and yes, the whole thing was bizarre. But we need to stipulate a couple things:
1) Hot Air ran the Fred hit piece like it was fact.
2) They backed off damn near immediately.
3) They buried the thread this morning.
4) It is very, very quiet around here lately.
So…
As a Fredhead, I call BS. You might call it anger, but it really isn’t. They need to issue a statement that they quite literally
F***ed updid not do as well as they should have.Given that I respect them so much, I can’t believe we don’t get a “we’re sorry” and leave it at that.
Pssst… by the way, it’s OK if conservatives get pissed off. In fact, this election cycle, it seems to be a necessity. It may be our only hope.
I’m a Fredhead, and if anyone disagrees with this message, I will rip your spine out and beat you to death with it. ;)
wccawa on December 21, 2007 at 12:59 AM
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Can it. The story was reported as it developed.
News2Use on December 21, 2007 at 1:02 AM
Tase me, bro. I’m not backing off. HA screwed up and I want to see an apology.
Having the facts on my side is always a good start.
Good night….
wccawa on December 21, 2007 at 1:07 AM
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