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The NIE’s Iran finding was based on…an old laptop and the word of Rafsanjani?

posted at 10:28 am on December 19, 2007 by Bryan
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We shovel billions of dollars per year into our intelligence agencies, in the apparently vain hope that they’ll gather intelligence. And they do. At Washington parties, apparently, according to this Washington Post story that I missed when it hit on Dec 8.

With Bush pressing for more information, the intelligence community finally came up with something new — a series of communications intercepts, including snippets of conversations between key Iranian officials, one of them a military officer whose name appeared on the laptop. Two sources said the Iranians complained that the nuclear weapons program had been shuttered four years earlier and argued about whether it would ever be restarted.

There had been clues for those willing to see them. For one thing, the laptop contained no new drawings on its hard drive after February 2003, said officials familiar with it. And during a dinner in Tehran with visiting American experts in 2005, Iranian leaders Hashemi Rafsanjani and Hassan Rowhani flatly declared that the country’s nuclear weapons research had been halted because Iran felt it did not need the actual bombs, only the ability to show the world it could.

“Look, as long as we can enrich uranium and master the [nuclear] fuel cycle, we don’t need anything else,” Rafsanjani said at the dinner, according to George Perkovich of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. “Our neighbors will be able to draw the proper conclusions.”

The phrase “Are you kidding me?” comes quickly to mind. Surely it occurred to some of these deep thinkers of ours that the Iranian officials could be lying. Surely? Head over to the Corner to see why Rafsanjani’s word isn’t the first or last that we ought to trust on Iran’s benign intentions.

For a long time, I was among those who mocked Joseph Wilson’s intel gathering in Niger, which he described in his book as sitting with local officials, sipping drinks and asking them if they’d spotted any Iraqis trying to buy yellowcake. Who knew Wilson’s methods met the IC’s gold standard?


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Is this a pilot for a new sitcom?

right2bright on December 19, 2007 at 10:32 AM

D’Oh!! I coulda had a V8 (rocket)!

bbz123 on December 19, 2007 at 10:38 AM

The last time I heard of intel this bad being eaten hook, line, and sinker, the Germans were believing the Atlantic Wall would be breached in Calais even as the Normandy landings were happening.

steveegg on December 19, 2007 at 10:39 AM

Step into fogw’s Time Machine ……

Nevile Chamberlain: “So, we have your word Mein Fuhrer?”

Adolph Hitler: “Absolutely, I will not use my military to invade my neighbors.”

That worked out just fine.

fogw on December 19, 2007 at 10:41 AM

Trust him?

Nope.

4shoes on December 19, 2007 at 10:43 AM

I’ve heard all the arguments for not tearing down the IC and starting over. Years to build it up again…yada yada yada….bull. It is basically just a welfare system for political science majors. Turn it over to the military. Harvard and Cornell and GWU need to get out of the intelligence business.

Limerick on December 19, 2007 at 10:43 AM

Trust him?

Not a shot in H*ll.

Incidentally, at first look, it appeared he was wearing a Santa hat in the front page picture.

amerpundit on December 19, 2007 at 10:48 AM

The only thing that comes to mind after this whole NIE debacle is that “common sense” is not so common after all.

Tennman on December 19, 2007 at 10:50 AM

Fred! has said more than once that he wants to rebuild the CIA from the ground up.

AZCON on December 19, 2007 at 11:11 AM

I wish I could find it, but Plame recently wrote that her “beat” was working Georgetown parties. Maybe she wrote it at Huffpo.

MayBee on December 19, 2007 at 11:21 AM

If I wanted to plant false info for my enemies to find that’s how I’d do it. A laptop and a couple leaders telling tales.

maintenanceman on December 19, 2007 at 11:25 AM

Oh, she said it in her interview with Larry Johnson (in the audio portion).

MayBee on December 19, 2007 at 11:25 AM

Kumbaya

petefrt on December 19, 2007 at 11:29 AM

This is like the Clinton-era NIE that said North Korea couldn’t build a missile to hit the US…by excluding Alaska and Hawai’i from their definition of “US.” Are these things ever not political?

Nosferightu on December 19, 2007 at 11:30 AM

Is a sad day when one realizes that Homer Simpson could do a better job of gathering intelligence than the CIA.

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GT on December 19, 2007 at 11:39 AM

The proper use of disinformation has always been a hallmark of good intelligence. Maybe if our intelligence had kept that as a key component of any and all analysis, rather than spending so much time attempting to run one half-assed coup attempt after another against Bush, they wouldn’t be so screwed up.
Limerick– dead on. The faster Harvard and co. are cut out of a lot of things, the better off we’ll all be.

tomk59 on December 19, 2007 at 11:58 AM

Any union, federal employee for life losing their pension over this one?

I spent some time a few months ago with an officer serving in intelligence talking about how they can’t wait to vote for Hillary. Amazing how many people serving in the intelligence community are socialists.

Hening on December 19, 2007 at 12:08 PM

Where is James Angleton when we need him?

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on December 19, 2007 at 12:24 PM

I don’t trust anything the government says anymore. And, I damn sure don’t trust the Iranians. It looks to me that you have CIA quacks working on Iranian morons. A dangerous mix.

But if I were to guess, I would think the Iranians are working hard to get a bomb. After all, it has been over 60 years since we made one without the help of computers. You would think those morons could get it done 65 years later with the help of computers and their muslem brothers in Pakistan.

saiga on December 19, 2007 at 12:42 PM

He has an honest face…doesn’t he?
barf

oldernslower on December 19, 2007 at 2:54 PM

The legend

docdave on December 19, 2007 at 4:52 PM

Oops… hit wrong key.

The legendary oxymoron – government intelligence.

docdave on December 19, 2007 at 4:53 PM

Does anybody have contact information for the IC community? Plame? Wilson? the CIA?

I saw Heckel and Jeckel, and want to alert them that I believe Putin and the KGB are infiltrating the US with English speaking birds.

Geeze. Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny? Now it’s all clear!

91Veteran on December 19, 2007 at 6:31 PM

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