Video: Glenn Beck just about kisses Ron Paul; Update: Beck asks Paul, are you a Truther or what?

posted at 8:53 pm on December 18, 2007 by Bryan

As Allahpundit might say, Dude.

Update (AP): Here’s five minutes from our old pal Ian Schwartz of Beck just baiting him really, asking two questions to which he already knows the answers. Does America’s Greatest Patriot support the threats on Beck’s life issued by a few of his supporters? Bombshell answer: No. Does America’s Greatest Patriot believe the Bush administration conspired to bring about the 9/11 attacks? Paul’s gone on record about this many times, something Beck’s doubtless aware of. No matter; the point of this cross-examination is simply to bring out the fact of Paul’s support among Truthers for those in the audience who aren’t unaware of it while forcing Paul to make those same Truthers wince by formally declaring the conspiracy nutty. As he notes, though, that’s no great shakes: If you can believe the Twin Towers were packed with thermite, you can certainly believe that your hero’s just telling this neocon talk show host what he wants to hear.

Note how Paul slips in a little excuse-making at the end. Just keep the money coming, boys. Click the image to watch.

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Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Ian on December 18, 2007 at 8:56 PM

I live in Raleigh. Is anyone else’s city under seige from crappy-ass homemade “Ron Paul 2008″ signs?

These slackers better clean up all their signs come next year…

nosliwelyk on December 18, 2007 at 8:57 PM

Ian on December 18, 2007 at 8:56 PM

Of course!

Bryan on December 18, 2007 at 8:57 PM

He had me at “well”.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 8:57 PM

I’d be interested in hearing Glenn’s foreign policy talk with Paul. I think that’s where most of the right falls away from him.

lorien1973 on December 18, 2007 at 8:57 PM

Is anyone else’s city under seige from crappy-ass homemade “Ron Paul 2008″ signs?

Not yet. I’ve been to several small cities where I have seen them. In York, PA and Charleston, SC.

Ian on December 18, 2007 at 9:01 PM

creapy.

AZCON on December 18, 2007 at 9:02 PM

“You had me at hello”,well light my fire!NOT

canopfor on December 18, 2007 at 9:02 PM

Glenn Beck kills me I do enjoy his work.
Ron Paul on the other hand will go third party and cause us to loose this election.

Fandango on December 18, 2007 at 9:02 PM

@ Fandango on December 18, 2007 at 9:02 PM

Boy do I hope so, especially if anyone other than Fred is the nominee.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 9:03 PM

Ian on December 18, 2007 at 9:01 PM

South PA seems to be littered with them, they haven’t reached us up here in North-Central PA…yet.

Bad Candy on December 18, 2007 at 9:04 PM

@ lorien1973 on December 18, 2007 at 8:57 PM

Check this out:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XuJcgh-PuGY

Buchanon teaches Glenn a little about Pauls position.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 9:06 PM

Glen Beck is talking to Ron Pual as I type,
started at 9 O’clock!,it’s a repeat from 7
o’clock.

Glen Beck askes Ron Paul the 911 conspiracy question’s!

canopfor on December 18, 2007 at 9:06 PM

Hey, thanks!

Ian on December 18, 2007 at 9:10 PM

I live in Raleigh. Is anyone else’s city under seige from crappy-ass homemade “Ron Paul 2008″ signs?

same in Charlotte, seen some on side of road waving “Google Ron Paul” signs and generally making idiots of themselves.

interesting, since primary in NC isn’t till May.

jp on December 18, 2007 at 9:10 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHAgZwnnT0w&NR=1

Great montage of what Paul is all about.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 9:11 PM

I’d ask Paul about all the War Propaganda he spreads, anti-american war propaganda at that.

like, Afghan war being motivated by oil pipelines.

I’d also ask if he’s ever heard of the Muslim Brotherhood and the history behind that.

his views on Israel vs. Terrorist, in which he doens’t want to take sides.

and general naivety and stupidity.

jp on December 18, 2007 at 9:12 PM

Buchanon teaches Glenn a little about Pauls position.

How so? buchanan just advocated the repeal of possee comitatus. You believe that US Soldiers are meant to be stationed in a mission, without end, inside the country’s borders?

lorien1973 on December 18, 2007 at 9:12 PM

@ canopfor on December 18, 2007 at 9:06 PM

This the interview?
canopfor on December 18, 2007 at 9:06 PM

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 9:12 PM

Ugh, stupid comment system

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fZXWW4C2kpE

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 9:12 PM

They should also get Jonah Goldberg, or atleast raise Paul’s lies about conservatism and history, that Goldberg raises in his recent column: “The Tradition of Ron Paul”

would be a good way to make him squirm, along with the interventionist, strong executive approach that Thomas Jefferson took with the Barbary Pirates. “Is Thomas Jefferson a War mongerer?” Why did he lobby for war for over 15 years, then do so without a “Declaration of War”?

jp on December 18, 2007 at 9:15 PM

Goldberg posted a portion of his article on The Corner today:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTIxYjRhNGYxZTVkNjUwNzkxNTJlMWU5ZDZiYzAwMTM=

….The Buckleyite position came to define mainstream American conservatism (and much of libertarianism) until the fall of the Berlin Wall. But a few rightist intellectuals dissented. The most famous was Murray Rothbard, a brilliant anarchist libertarian who saw in the Cold War a sweeping con job. The “blight of anti-Communism,” Rothbard tellingly wrote in the left-wing journal Ramparts, paved the way for a takeover of American conservatism by defenders of Truman’s “imperialist aggression.” The Cold War was merely a convenient justification for statism, the crushing of dissent, and war lust. Churchill, de Gaulle, and Khrushchev were equally “butchers.” Truman was the “butcher of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.” National Review had a “clerical fascist” tinge, while various hard-Left organs — such as the Committee for a Sane Nuclear Policy — earned Rothbard’s support and membership.

Ron Paul is perhaps the most famous heir to the Rothbard tradition. He even has a portrait of Rothbard on his wall (that is, according to Wikipedia; Paul’s office declined to grant an interview for this piece). Paul claims to be the standard-bearer of a truer, more authentic conservatism. In debates he spins an odd historical interpretation in which the GOP has always succeeded when championing either withdrawal from foreign conflicts (Korea, Vietnam) or non-interventionism. Most analysts, on the other hand, will tell you the GOP’s advocacy of a strong defense has been a strength. Still, Paul claims that withdrawal not only from the U.N. (yippee!) but also from NATO, the WTO, NAFTA, and every “entangling alliance” (read: support for Israel, mutual-defense agreements, etc.) is the truly conservative position. When the Republican presidential candidates debated in South Carolina, he invoked Robert Taft’s opposition to NATO. Left out of Paul’s tale: Taft supported the Truman Doctrine and the Marshall Plan, promised “100 percent support for the Chinese National government on Formosa,” advocated “occasional extensions . . . into Europe, Asia, and Africa,” and favored keeping six divisions in Europe, at least until the Europeans could defend themselves.

In the 1980s, as Reagan supported rollback, Paul favored roll-up. He wanted the U.S. to leave NATO and abandon Japan. On Grenada he was more nuanced, but he aimed his fire at Reagan’s decision not to seek a declaration of war from Congress (a frequent safe harbor from which Paul criticizes nearly every military engagement). In the foreword to A Foreign Policy of Freedom, a collection of Paul’s foreign-policy floor speeches, Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr. calls the Cold War and the War on Terror all part of the same “farce”; both were ruses to justify large government.

jp on December 18, 2007 at 9:19 PM

So what happens when Huckabee and Obama win their parties nominations, Bloomburg enters as 3rd party, Paul enters as 4th party, Pinks enters as 5th party, (and more I am forgetting). November 08 comes along, and there is no clear majority winner. The electoral college meets, and…not a single conservative to choose from?

AZCON on December 18, 2007 at 9:21 PM

I think if Hillary is Dem nominee

and Mitt or Rudy, maybe Huck are Repub nominee

a centrist, McCain/Lieberman run comes out and wins. There are enough Dems that would vote this ticket that hate hillary for it to happen.

Paul will pull alot of far-left kook votes, so will hurt dem some as well.

jp on December 18, 2007 at 9:22 PM

Glenn Beck kills me I do enjoy his work.
Ron Paul on the other hand will go third party and cause us to loose this election.

Fandango on December 18, 2007 at 9:02 PM

The net effect of a Ron Paul 3rd party run will be to help the GOP. The only people that follow this guy are people that either don’t vote, haven’t voted, or are democrats to begin with. Plus they’ll all be to stoned on election day.

Don’t you worry, Fred’s lead will be so huge the dems wont be able to blame their loss on RP.

TheSitRep on December 18, 2007 at 9:23 PM

I don’t believe McCain would run outside of the GOP.

AZCON on December 18, 2007 at 9:27 PM

They should also get Jonah Goldberg, or atleast raise Paul’s lies about conservatism and history, that Goldberg raises in his recent column: “The Tradition of Ron Paul”

would be a good way to make him squirm, along with the interventionist, strong executive approach that Thomas Jefferson took with the Barbary Pirates. “Is Thomas Jefferson a War mongerer?” Why did he lobby for war for over 15 years, then do so without a “Declaration of War”?

jp on December 18, 2007 at 9:15 PM

The National Review Krew is the Special Forces of punditry.

Tzetzes on December 18, 2007 at 9:27 PM

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 9:03 PM

muyoso, that kind of thinking caused no end of misery for the liberal dissidents from the Democrat mainstream — who voted for Nader and handed the 2000 election to Bush.

It would, of course, be a disastrous strategy for conservatives, and would leave the country at the tender mercies of a leftist President and Congress.

Jaibones on December 18, 2007 at 9:29 PM

…a centrist, McCain/Lieberman run comes out and wins. There are enough Dems that would vote this ticket that hate hillary for it to happen.

Uh, the Democrats who hate Hillary are further left than Hillary, and hate Liebermen with the whitehot intensity of a thousand suns. And they would vote for McCain?

I do not think so…

Jaibones on December 18, 2007 at 9:31 PM

The net effect of a Ron Paul 3rd party run will be to help the GOP. The only people that follow this guy are people that either don’t vote, haven’t voted, or are democrats to begin with. Plus they’ll all be to stoned on election day.

actually, there are some, evangelical christians that do vote that are supporting paul. Its a paticular strand that are “Christian Libertarians”, which is little different than big L. they think, wrongly, that Paul is the only one that supports the Constitution(even though he politicizes it) and is the only one paying lip service to limited govt. To still support him, it requires being ignorant of current events like the Iraq war, how we got there, etc. They are also paranoid by ACLU fear mongering on the International Terrorist Surveillanc program, etc.

anyway they are out there. check out the “Christian Exodus” movement in South carolina. They are the seperatist movement trying to get Christians to move to SC and then seceed. basically given up on ever changing the whole US…they support Paul.

jp on December 18, 2007 at 9:32 PM

maybe, but this is McCain’s last shot to ever be Pres. never know…..I know some souther, ‘yellowdog’ Dems, who absolutely hate bush, that like McCain.

but yeah, the infrastructure wouldnt’ be there and not sure about the money…to get them elected.

jp on December 18, 2007 at 9:34 PM

This the Interview…

Muyoso on December 18,2007 at 9:12PM.

Muyoso:As far as I know,yes.

canopfor on December 18, 2007 at 9:35 PM

I knew that blimp looked a little phallic…

JetBoy on December 18, 2007 at 9:44 PM

@ Jaibones on December 18, 2007 at 9:29 PM

I would rather have something like that happen with the POSSIBILITY of a RP victory, instead of having one of these faux republicans in the office who are:

WEAK on taxes
WEAK on 2nd amendment
WEAK on border
WEAK on reducing the size of gov

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 9:44 PM

Don’t forget what Beck said of Paul, and how “we” make the terrorists “hate us”…back in May…. CLICK

JetBoy on December 18, 2007 at 9:49 PM

I live in Raleigh. Is anyone else’s city under seige from crappy-ass homemade “Ron Paul 2008″ signs?

These slackers better clean up all their signs come next year…

nosliwelyk on December 18, 2007 at 8:57 PM

Have you seen the pickup truck on I-40 (I saw it heading East out of Raleigh towards Garner) with the HUGE wooden Ron Paul sign and the 2 American flags?

SouthernGent on December 18, 2007 at 9:59 PM

I don’t give a F@%$K how much money he gets in donations.

MR. MAGOO ain’t winnin’ – and he knows it! I think his fund raiser bonanzas are starting to get to him. Look at his posture.

Rather than a source for encouragement – I bet he is hoping to run out of money so he can quit.

Agrippa2k on December 18, 2007 at 9:59 PM

I agree. He appeared on all of the major networks today so he can quit. He has another giant fundraiser in 2 weeks so he can quit. Just because you want him to quit doesnt mean its going to happen.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 10:04 PM

You believe that US Soldiers are meant to be stationed in a mission, without end, inside the country’s borders?

lorien1973 on December 18, 2007 at 9:12 PM

Better they be stationed where they’re protecting OUR borders than those of South Korea, Germany, etc., etc. There’s absolutely no need for the US to maintain an active military presence in countries that are more than capable of raising up an army to defend themselves.

Or, if they don’t want to do that, then they can keep our military protection and become an American colony. A simple choice.

Besides, Buchanan’s statement is a rhetorical rather than policy one. He’s rhetorically playing the “protecting S. Korea’s border”/”protecting OUR border” off of each other.

Harpazo on December 18, 2007 at 10:13 PM

This just in: Ron Paul, seen in his blimp singing “Imaginaaaation….Imaginaaaaaaaaaation”

JetBoy on December 18, 2007 at 10:17 PM

@ JetBoy on December 18, 2007 at 10:17 PM

Although I disagree, Hilarious.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 10:18 PM

Here’s 9 min of it.

Spirit of 1776 on December 18, 2007 at 10:23 PM

America first. 1940 redeux. Fort up. Bar the gates. Fill the moat. Man the towers. Don’t answer the door honey, those screams are none of our business.

Limerick on December 18, 2007 at 10:24 PM

That Ghandi reference was really apropos:

During World War II, Gandhi penned an open letter to the British people, urging them to surrender to the Nazis. Later, when the extent of the holocaust was known, he criticized Jews who had tried to escape or fight for their lives as they did in Warsaw and Treblinka. “The Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife,” he said. “They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.” “Collective suicide,” he told his biographer, “would have been heroism.”

Laura on December 18, 2007 at 11:07 PM

That was a pretty good interview. It shows Paul for what he really is. If I thought he had a snowball’s chance to get the nomination, I would support him, I really like what he says. But lets face it, he isnt going to get the nomination, and all these weirdos that glum onto him arent helping any.

paulsur on December 18, 2007 at 11:07 PM

Chamberlain Paul seemed such a nice old gentleman that I thought I would give him my autograph.

Adolph Hitler Dinnerjacket

Limerick on December 18, 2007 at 11:09 PM

Everytime I hear “Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul” I just cringe. Ya, sure I like the idea of abolishing the IRS but, it’s never gonna happen. That and his ideas about national security are problematic at best.

boomer on December 18, 2007 at 11:24 PM

I say again. Ron Paul does not have control over his campaign.

bnelson44 on December 18, 2007 at 11:25 PM

@ bnelson44 on December 18, 2007 at 11:25 PM

I would venture to guess that ANY one of the candidates would give their left nut for the type of support RP has. RP is fully in charge of his campaign. The people have taken over the fund raising and have greatly assisted in getting the message out.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 11:30 PM

you don’t want 9/11 troofers, holocaust deniers, neo-nazi’s and other fringe nut fruitcake supporters, no matter how motivated. The media would do nothing more than smear you, which is why sane, serious, politicians would give back donations from Neo-Nazi’s, paul accepts and panders to them.

jp on December 18, 2007 at 11:35 PM

Laura on December 18, 2007 at 11:07 PM

Ghandi is his hero, its why he is supposedly “pro-life”, against the death penalty and a suicidle pacifist nutjob

jp on December 18, 2007 at 11:36 PM

I would venture to guess that ANY one of the candidates would give their left nut for the type of support RP has. RP is fully in charge of his campaign. The people have taken over the fund raising and have greatly assisted in getting the message out.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 11:30 PM

Since most people now associate Ron Paul with truthers thanks to his supporters, I doubt much of what you say here. Also, Paul doesn’t know what the guy in charge of the money bombs does until after it is happening (it was reported this week that Paul has never personally met the guy, just talked to him on the phone once or twice), also he didn’t know about the blimp until after it was done. Most of his signs are made by amateurs frequently placing them in illegal locations for others to clean up. No, this is not a campaign that Paul has any real control over. Paul is just riding a wave right now and going where it takes him. I am sure it is a wild ride and this Beck interview shows he really doesn’t know what people are saying about him or for him.

bnelson44 on December 18, 2007 at 11:38 PM

@ bnelson44 on December 18, 2007 at 11:38 PM

You are wrong. Most people on HERE do. Most people however do not. As for the grass roots support, believe me, candidates WISH people were so enthused by them that they would go to the extent that RP supporters have.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 11:40 PM

@ jp on December 18, 2007 at 11:35 PM

Please show me where he has pandered to them.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 11:41 PM

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 11:40 PM

Grass roots or not, a presidential campaign better know what the vast majority of their activists are doing, he doesn’t. It shows very poor leadership skills.

bnelson44 on December 18, 2007 at 11:45 PM

@ bnelson44 on December 18, 2007 at 11:45 PM

It WOULD show poor leadership skills if the fund raising events were official campaign fund raisers.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 11:48 PM

Please show me where he has pandered to them.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 11:41 PM

How many times has he been on Alex Jones radio show again?

How many times has he allowed YouTube videos by these nuts associating him with their causes to go unchallenged?

How many times has he allowed other candidate’s events to be interrupted by these nuts associating him with their causes to go unchallenged?

bnelson44 on December 18, 2007 at 11:49 PM

He could be for abolishing the IRS, building the wall, deporting all illegals, anti-abortion, pro gun, give Limerick all your spare change…..but as long as he wants to bring ALL the troops home and deal away innocent lives then he is a nobody to me. Not worth the air in his lower colon.

Limerick on December 18, 2007 at 11:50 PM

It WOULD show poor leadership skills if the fund raising events were official campaign fund raisers.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 11:48 PM

Huh? So it shows great leadership that he does nothing and people he doesn’t know collect money for him, in his name and he has no control of what they do or say? Even a Boy Scout working on an Eagle project knows better than that.

bnelson44 on December 18, 2007 at 11:51 PM

@ bnelson44 on December 18, 2007 at 11:49 PM

You arent understanding, he doesnt get involved with what people who support him do. If he DID start to police youtube, look at donations, he would have to do it for ALL donations and ALL youtube videos. It would be stupid to do. Its a waste of time and money. He isnt getting massive donations so that he can try and make sure no one sullies his name. Also the Alex Jones thing I associate with very few MSM outlets giving him any airtime at all early in the campaign. Gotta get your message out somewhere.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 11:52 PM

@ Limerick on December 18, 2007 at 11:50 PM

When did the US become the world savior? How can you justify current policy, when we let the people who are REALLY suffering die? Rwanda, North Korea, most of Africa. Don’t start that dealing away innocent lives crap when you yourself dont even believe it.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 11:54 PM

alot of you asked for Paul to come out and say he denies that troofer movement and does not support any of the racists groups that have some members following him

He does both of thes things in this interview, yet youre still not happy. Pauls ideas are unique and 100% opposite then we are used to hearing, that does not mean they are bad. Consider what he has to say and really examine what he is advocating. Its a new, better direction for America.

offroadaz on December 18, 2007 at 11:55 PM

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 11:54 PM

little do you know me muyoso. You have made it perfectly clear that you believe we should fort up and plug our ears and cover our eyes. As long as YOU are left alone you don’t give a damn about anyone else. Fine. That is your position.
I’ve accepted what you say for face value.

Limerick on December 18, 2007 at 11:57 PM

@ Limerick on December 18, 2007 at 11:57 PM

I sure don’t want my money going to fix every problem in the world. It is not the responsibility of the government to do that. NOWHERE in the constitution is that a function of the government. If YOU want to donate your time, money, and life to fighting all the ills in the world, please do.

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 11:59 PM

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 11:59 PM

Time, money and life. No problem. Small price to pay for my soul.

Limerick on December 19, 2007 at 12:00 AM

he’s allowed his columns to be run in Holocaust denying publications for years, has a long history of being anti-Israel to the point a resolution last year to support Israeal against Hezzbollah(a Terrorist group) he along with Kucinich voted against.

he’s on record talking about many fring nut conspiracies, whether the NAU or Fed related, to AIPAC ‘running our Foreign Policy” to parroting Michael Moore’s anti-american propaganda bout Afghanistan being about “Oil Pipelines”

jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:01 AM

@ Limerick on December 19, 2007 at 12:00 AM

Good. You and your religion can donate all your time, money, and lives to save your souls. Keep those functions OUT of the government. No one is stopping you from doing those things, that is what makes this country great.

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:02 AM

muyoso on December 18, 2007 at 11:52 PM

If he knew about what people support him are doing, he should be disavowing it. Instead he is silent and wishy washy. Only today did I hear him actually disavow it. This is not a man in control of his campaign. It is a point against him as a commander in chief.

Well, you have been, as usual, very polite and I am greatful. It is getting late here and I need to sign off for the day. Have a restful evening.

bnelson44 on December 19, 2007 at 12:04 AM

@ bnelson44 on December 19, 2007 at 12:04 AM

I need to do the same. And remember, RON PAUL 2008!!!!!!

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:05 AM

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=2007040683039464

In regards to Rep. Ron Paul, he states twice in the Student Scholars video that he believes that the first 9/11 investigation was one in which there many “cover-ups.” Paul also claimed he “never automatically believes anything the government does when they do an investigation.” Additionally, he has been on the Alex Jones show several times. Ron Paul knows very well that something is very wrong with the official explanation of 9/1l. However, like Dennis Kucinich he cannot look right into our cameras and proclaim “9/11 WAS A SELF INFLICTED WOUND!” Through acknowledging the legitimacy of the 9/11 Truth Movement’s concerns, these candidates are expressing their support for our cause.

Pandering, and pathetic excuse for an American also.

jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:13 AM

Consider what he has to say and really examine what he is advocating.
offroadaz

I have.

Its a new, better direction for America.

No, it’s a suicide pact.

JannyMae on December 19, 2007 at 12:13 AM

Just imagine a whole Presidential campaign funded by Internet Money scams. Makes AlGore’s little carbon credit ponzi look like small change.

Buzzy on December 19, 2007 at 12:15 AM

e in Raleigh. Is anyone else’s city under seige from crappy-ass homemade “Ron Paul 2008″ signs?

These slackers better clean up all their signs come next year…

nosliwelyk on December 18, 2007 at 8:57 PM

i live on long island, and theres a sign all the time on the overrpasses on the L.I.E.

ron paul revolution!!! (with love pasted over)

blatantblue on December 19, 2007 at 12:17 AM

@ jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:09 AM

Thats nice, but be very clearly stated his position today.

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:17 AM

from an apperance on a radio show no pres. candidate should go on, Alex Jones radio show:

CALLER: I want a complete, impartial, and totally independent investigation of the events of September 11, 2001 . I’m tired of this bogus garbage about terrorism. Ask Michael Meacher about how he feels about this bogus war on terrorism. Can you comment on that please?

HON. DR. RON PAUL: Well, that would be nice to have. Unfortunately, we don’t have that in place. It will be a little bit better now with the Democrats now in charge of oversight. But you know, for top level policy there’s not a whole lot of difference between the two policies so a real investigation isn’t going to happen. But I think we have to keep pushing for it. And like you and others, we see the investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on.

pandering, pathetic excuse for a man.

jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:17 AM

# jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:13 AM

Ok, now you are retarded. Pathetic excuse for an American? WTF have you done with your life? He will have accomplished more than you would in 3 lifetimes. Your association of him with the 9/11 truth crap is so dishonest that it makes me question your character. You obviously have no qualms about lying outright to try and get a point across.

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:19 AM

and if the last thing I posted isn’t enough, you are brainwashed.

just because he has enough political sense while on Beck to deny it, doesn’t mean he isn’t pandering to them and sympathetic to those idiots.

jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:20 AM

@ jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:17 AM

You KNOW he isnt talking about the events of 9/11, but rather the ineptness of the government in those quotes. You KNOW that, but keep up the lies.

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:20 AM

@ jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:20 AM

You take things out of context, you listen ONLY to what people tell you to listen to. If you would listen to his speeches, go on youtube and watch the HOURS of material he has on there, you will understand what he is saying. You are one of the most dishonest persons on Hotair that I have dealt with.

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:22 AM

do you have any idea what Alex “the Jews did 9/11″ Jones radio show is about, and he goes on there and talks about 9/11 being a coverup and need for a new investigation from a Caller that is a 9/11 Truther!!!!! Good grief, what else can be said but “denial”
IF, and its a big IF, someone who is sane and an honest American that wants to be CinC and goes on a show like that. They should, politely, tell these nutballs how wrong they are. Instead he plays along, goes on to talk about how “Bush is determined to impose martial law”, etc.

jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:23 AM

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:22 AM

As the comment count rises, the veracity count falls. Keep up the good work.

Limerick on December 19, 2007 at 12:25 AM

@ jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:23 AM

I know who Alex Jones is, he is an idiot. I don’t agree with RP appearing on his show, but he did and its not that big of a deal. You are taking the TRUTHERS word as gospel in what they say against RP. Do you understand, YOU, JP, are AGREEING with the truthers. I guess you see them as a trustworthy bunch of people and not a group of people who are desperate to grab on to a candidate for legitimacy.

RP agreeing with the caller about a new investigation is NOT because he thinks there are questions about what happened, but more that he knows there are several levels of government which are so inefficient that it allowed something like this to happen. The martial law thing, you now for the second time are taking COMPLETELY out of context. Such is normal for you I guess.

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:26 AM

To me there seems to be two options.

If Paul is in control of his campaign then he has to know about the perfect storm of idiocy he’s attracted. Since he’s not willing to do more than a wink and a nod in response, that suggests to me that he’s willing to pander to a disturbing subset of our country because they have money to donate.

On the other hand, if he’s truly ignorant of the crazy following him around, then he’s not exactly the guy I trust to serve as the CinC, among other things.

Either one doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence as to his ability to be President.

JohnTant on December 19, 2007 at 12:27 AM

@ Limerick on December 19, 2007 at 12:25 AM

Care to point out an instance?

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:28 AM

@ JohnTant on December 19, 2007 at 12:27 AM

Obviously he isnt aware of the group of idiots associating themselves with him. It was made quite clear in this video.

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:29 AM

imagine what the MSM and the Dems would do with this, if in an alternate universe, it was Paul vs. Hillary/Obama for pres.

jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:29 AM

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:28 AM

No need. You are doing fine all by yourself.

JohnTant hit it on the head. Either way your man is a sorry choice for CINC.

Limerick on December 19, 2007 at 12:29 AM

@ Limerick on December 19, 2007 at 12:29 AM

Who do you support?

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:30 AM

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:30 AM

First choice. Fred. Second choice…anyone who isn’t afraid of the darkness.

Limerick on December 19, 2007 at 12:32 AM

Ok, I can agree with you on Fred. He is my second and only other choice other than Paul. No other candidate covers the issues I find important. Just very glad you didnt say Huckabee. Cheers.

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:33 AM

You take things out of context, you listen ONLY to what people tell you to listen to. If you would listen to his speeches, go on youtube and watch the HOURS of material he has on there, you will understand what he is saying. You are one of the most dishonest persons on Hotair that I have dealt with.

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:22 AM

Tick. Tick. Tick…

This one’s destined to flame out any time now. I want no part of this candidate nor his slavish followers.

techno_barbarian on December 19, 2007 at 12:34 AM

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:26 AM

If paul did not know the caller was a truther idiot that thinks the Govt. or some other wild conspiracy in which Jihadist didn’t do it…..then he is not only stupid, even more unfit for command.

Here he is spreading War Propaganda that Michael Moore alrady cashed in on: http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/11/ron-paul-on-afghanistan-oil-pipelines.html

JW: What about Afghanistan? Would you continue the operations there?

RP: No, I would come home, unless there was specific knowledge of where Osama bin Laden was. Then I send out just a small team of people to take care of him. I would not maintain the occupation of Afghanistan. That was mainly motivated by oil pipelines and some other things that are never discussed.

JW: Could you elaborate a little bit how oil pipelines were the motivation for going into Afghanistan?

RP: It’s been known that certain oil companies were anxious for many, many years to be able to transverse Afghanistan to move natural gas. And that effort is still alive and well. Too often, whether it’s a pipeline in Afghanistan or control of oil wells in Iraq, oil and economics motivates our national policy much more so than national security.

jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:35 AM

@ jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:35 AM

As I discussed with you in another thread, I dont agree with what he said there. I DO think he meant that the reason we are STILL in Afghanistan is because of the oil pipeline, and not as one of the reasons to go in. As evidence of this fact, he voted to go into Afghanistan. However, he said what he said, and taking his words as they are, they are wrong.

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:37 AM

I should also note, that Eric Dondero who worked for Paul for many years and helped found the Repub. Liberty Caucus. Has stated on his blog that Ron Paul is a Roosevelt Conspirtorialist, related to Pearl Harbor attack. And to this day is against US involvement in Germany in WW2. All that added up plus some, seals the deal for me on him and his kookiness.

jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:39 AM

@ jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:39 AM

He talked about WWII either on Glenn becks show today or on one of the other shows today. He stated his position clearly and very well. No one is trying to get you to vote for him, but you are overstating the “kookiness” by leaps and bounds. Look at a list of his positions, and tell me you dont agree with 90-95 percent of them. I agree with him oon 95% of the issues he talks about, more so than any other candidate. Also, he has a record of being an honest guy and has NEVER flip flopped from what I can see.

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:43 AM

I just read like 3 paragraphs of Eric Dondero’s blog, and he is an idiot. He gets it all wrong on simply quoting Paul correctly, and claims a stunning turn around when Pauls been saying the same thing for months.

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:45 AM

BTW, this just about answers all of your questions you raised.

http://reason.com/blog/show/120338.html

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:48 AM

@ jp on December 19, 2007 at 12:39 AM

Im going to bed. Do give that reason.com link a read though, it should answer a lot of your questions. I know its not gonna convince you about voting for Paul, but maybe we can move off the truther crap as just thinking about them pisses me off.

muyoso on December 19, 2007 at 12:50 AM

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