If it’s unhateable centrist vs. unhateable centrist, i.e. Obama vs. McCain . . .

I beg to differ. McCain is eminently hateable.

He’s pro choice, pro stem cell research, pro gay marriage, anti death penalty, pro gun control, a believer in global warming, pro amnesty for illegals, favors government restrictions on smoking and trans fats, and he raised property taxes.

So exactly how many Republican votes is he going to poach??

Yojimbo on December 18, 2007 at 2:20 PM

I’m pretty much with Yojimbo here. I think he is a dem spoiler much more than a Republican spoiler. There is a HUGE difference in most midwest states between city and rural voters. We regularly see massive splits between the areas. Unlike the Northeast and West Coast, in most of the Midwest and South we have a near 50/50 split between rural/urban-suburban voters with liberal/moderate urban-suburban areas having a 5-10% population advantage. Even a lot of California is pretty different in rural areas and Orange County vs the rest of the state according to family who live there. You get Bloomberg in the race to split up the dem vote in those big cities and some of those traditionally blue states may go red.

Exit question one: Hillary vs. Huck vs. Bloomy — who wins? Exit question two: Obama vs. Mitt vs. Bloomy — who wins

1. Hillary
2. Mitt

AP, you know I love ya, but if you really believe this is possible, then I really believe you might be smoking something.

Smoking, in Bloombergistan?!

It’s all about getting 100,000 people in Ohio not to vote for a Republican.

AP, you know I love ya, but if you really believe this is possible, then I really believe you might be smoking something. I know Bloomberg has more of a presence in your life than in most of ours–but that’s exactly my point. The man has no more chance of coming within striking distance of a Democratic nominee than of coming within striking distance of an IED in Iraq. Name recognition aside, and he doesn’t have a ton of it, he’s got all the nanny-statism of Huckabee without any of the evangelical appeal. Assume the GOP nominee as Huckabee, Giuliani, Mitt OR McCain OR Thompson, this simply won’t happen.

Bloomberg, City Stall on Releasing Evidence Regarding Illegal Guns

http://www.nysun.com/article/38669

Bloomberg Misdirects His Anti-Gun Anger

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=17384

Bloomberg Went Too Far in Gun Sting, Dealers Say

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/nyregion/09guns.html

Bringing gun control to the front should hurt the Dems, and Rudy, and Mitt.

I just hope our choices won’t be as poor as that.

Go Fred and/or Mitt!!!

Paul’s supporters may have the heart but I doubt they have the experience or a sufficient following to achieve getting his name on the ballot in more than a few states. Bloomberg may and Nader, owing to his name, experience, and following, too, but all that costs big bucks and whoever does must have a strong organization.

As such, barring a miraculous effort to be on more than half the state ballots, these folks will be only be tippers and not winners.

BTW, I think Ross Perot was the only one in recent times achieve 50 state access, but even with his status, he had only made it on 24 by mid-July and it took until September to make it to 50.

Always Right on December 18, 2007 at 2:51 PM

With one exception: He has said positive things on the war against radical Islam.

Can’t watch – Can’t turn away! *head explodes*

that Mayor Mike is an arrogant, rich, leftist, nanny-state idiot.

And I’m trying to be nice.

But then there is Mitt, the biggest spender in the history of politics, before primaries. It is working for him.

right2bright on December 18, 2007 at 2:24 PM

Money buys you soft support because it allows for name recognition. That is often not enough.

Hillary vs. Huck vs. Bloomy — who wins?

Hillary.

Obama vs. Mitt vs. Bloomy — who wins?

Mitt.

If, come next September, the GOP nominee is floundering with 25% of the vote and Bloomy and the Democrat are within striking distance of each other, would you consider voting Democratic?

I’m done voting “against” someone. I’d vote third (fourth?) party or leave it blank. Wow… those were three thoroughly depressing exit questions. Are you in a particularly sadistic mood today?

Big S on December 18, 2007 at 2:23 PM

Both RINOs will have the exact same nanny state policies. Bloomberg, unlike Rudy, at least had the decency to leave the GOP

Bloomberg is unknown to 99% of America and disliked by at least half of the other 1%.
Yojimbo on December 18, 2007 at 2:20 PM

What percentage of Americans knew Mike Huckabee before his current run?

Fred’s probably the best bet on paper. He’s on firmer ground with Christian conservatives than Mitt and he’d pick up the same non-religious conservative votes that Romney would. The problem is that he’s much less well funded and we’ll need every penny we can get to counter Bloomy.

There’s the answer. Fund the Fred! I’ve already maxed out :(

Money doesn’t have as much say in a primary as momentum. Huck is a good example.

bnelson44 on December 18, 2007 at 2:17 PM

But then there is Mitt, the biggest spender in the history of politics, before primaries. It is working for him.

Im moving to France. At least they have a conservative president.

amish on December 18, 2007 at 2:14 PM

Probably not for long. He’s racing to the altar with big socialist.

So exactly how many Republican votes is he going to poach??

Yojimbo on December 18, 2007 at 2:20 PM

He’s also a divorced, Jewish billionaire from New York City-pretty much as culturally different from the GOP base as you can get. He’ll also scare away fiscal conservatives with his support for CCT programs.

He’s pro choice, pro stem cell research, pro gay marriage, anti death penalty, pro gun control, a believer in global warming, pro amnesty for illegals, favors government restrictions on smoking and trans fats, and he raised property taxes.

So exactly how many Republican votes is he going to poach??