Video: CAIR weighs in on the murder of Aqsa Parvez
posted at 3:25 pm on December 17, 2007 by Bryan
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Megyn Kelly lists a number of honor killings and name checks Michelle’s site for further reference, to which CAIR’s man Ahmed Rehab responds that it’s analogous to garden variety domestic violence. That’s of course not the case at all; this kind of killing of young women is widespread yet unique to occurs all too frequently in Islamic communities. The CAIR man also sounds a positive note on the freedom of women to choose whether to wear burqas and head scarves or not, a case weakened by CAIR’s own inept Photoshopping of a scarf onto the uncovered head of a woman who appeared in a photo on its own site. There’s what you say and there’s what you do, and CAIR’s man says good things on this issue. The important thing to keep an eye on is what CAIR actually does about it.
[I pulled a link to a story that turned out not to be relevant to the issues above. My mistake for posting it.]
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I’d love to see a debate between a CAIR rep and either Michelle Malkin or Robert Spencer. I would pay good money for it.
aunursa on December 17, 2007 at 3:28 PM
Ibrahim would get so pissed off he’d chant “Durka durka muhammed jihad” and whip out a scimitar.
MadisonConservative on December 17, 2007 at 3:35 PM
They could tell me the sky is blue and I would go outside just to make sure.
The only thing I believe is when they tell us they want us dead or under their thumb. All else is suspect in my book.
bbz123 on December 17, 2007 at 3:39 PM
Muslims have a term for that, I can’t quite remember the term? Hmmmm
abinitioadinfinitum on December 17, 2007 at 3:40 PM
it is NOT unique to islamic communities, there are many reported cases in sikh and hindu communities, see the kaur case recently in britian, also druze communities.
zane on December 17, 2007 at 3:51 PM
And the crapweasel, as usual, tries to use the tried and true BROAD STRATA argument, and the alert Megyn catches him on it.
Yeah – like Swedish Lutherans and Alabaman Baptists practice honor killings on a weekly basis.
This is not a Stone Age custom. It started 1400 years ago. And it’s contagious. And scary.
fred5678 on December 17, 2007 at 3:52 PM
No disrespect to MM, but Spencer is more educated in the ins and outs of the religious texts. But either way, I wouldn’t hold my breath. CAIR likes to sit back and take potshots from a distance so they don’t have to answer any uncomfortable questions, like where thier funding is coming from, or the elements in Islamics texts that give rise to violent jihad, currently known as “terrorism”, devaluation and abuse of women, what a Dhimmi is, etc…..
P. James Moriarty on December 17, 2007 at 3:53 PM
Got links?
Bryan on December 17, 2007 at 3:53 PM
If such killings are unIslamic, where are the fatwas against them? Why don’t we ever see fatwas when murder is done in the name of Islam? If there are any such rulings, why doesn’t Ahmed point them out?
nobaloney on December 17, 2007 at 3:57 PM
Ahmed Rehab? That would make a good band name or the name of a movie about trying to reform a terrorist.
- The Cat
P.S. Yeah making fun of someone’s name is low, but this guy can use some making fun of.
MirCat on December 17, 2007 at 3:58 PM
Here’s an idea. Instead of covering their women, why not just blindfold the men? It would be much more fabric-efficient.
RedWinged Blackbird on December 17, 2007 at 3:59 PM
WB, it would be so…green…to do so.
bbz123 on December 17, 2007 at 4:01 PM
zane isn’t totally off-base here. Christianity, Judaism, and Buddhism are really the only globally recognizable religions that have done away with honor killings.
India has the same problem as China when it comes to aborting female babies. The caste culture is still alive and well in some parts of India, and the culture as a whole still values men over women. Gender equality (note to me: find better, less feminist sounding descriptor) is mostly a Westerm convention.
BKennedy on December 17, 2007 at 4:02 PM
BTW, we had a friend of the family (or brother of the friend, something like that) I was little when it happened.
Anyway, when the father came home his daughter had a guy in her room. The father walked into the room, shot her and tried to shoot the boyfriend. The guy went to jail saying “What did I do wrong?”
- The Cat
MirCat on December 17, 2007 at 4:04 PM
Rehab pretty much told us all CAIR is going to do about it – shrug it off as domestic violence with no reference to Islamic law. Megyn did fairly well during the interview, although if she’d apologized one more time, I’d have hit the remote. In the end, though, she came through and did not back down.
Connie on December 17, 2007 at 4:08 PM
Just a quick google on what he posted gave me this:
http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2003/10/05/mom_gave_long_distance_order_for_honor_killing_police_say/
Dash on December 17, 2007 at 4:15 PM
Well, if I ever have a daughter, I might feel inclined to shoot any boy I catch in her room. Not for religious reasons, just for the sheer audacity of the boy to dare enter my daughter’s room (believe me, he’ll have had plenty of warnings beforehand).
Frozen Tex on December 17, 2007 at 4:15 PM
And no harm will befall my hypothetical daughter; just a short lecture regarding the fact that I had to dispose of another horny boy again.
Frozen Tex on December 17, 2007 at 4:17 PM
Bryan:
While I’ve written plenty on Muslims abusing, beating, and raping “servants” as slaves, throughout America, what is your proof that the Sabhnanis are Muslim? My sources in the NYPD said they were actually Hindu (the husband, for sure). The slave was Muslim (she was mad she had to eat pork), so I don’t think that link about “freedom of choice” makes your case.
DS
Debbie Schlussel on December 17, 2007 at 4:22 PM
Their religion isn’t included in the story. In stories like these, that usually means they’re Muslim so that’s the way I leaned. Your sources say they’re not, so fair enough.
Bryan on December 17, 2007 at 4:31 PM
there seems to be an information clearing house about honor killings located at: http://www.stophonourkillings.com/index.php
Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on December 17, 2007 at 4:33 PM
Did you miss the fact that he shot the daughter and shot her first?
- The Cat
MirCat on December 17, 2007 at 4:33 PM
Bryan:
Yup, I was right. The Sabhnanis (you have their story about abusing their servant linked under “Speaking of Freedom of Choice”) are not Muslim. At least, I don’t know many Muslims who keep a “Hindu shrine” in their Long Island mansion. Do you? Like I said, there are many, many instances of Muslim brutality toward servants. But this is not one of them.
As for the case of Palestina Isa (Michelle calls her Tina, but her name was actually Palestina), which I have written about: while being one of the more famous cases–it was because of an FBI investigation connected with Abu Nidal and ripping off of gas in Michigan, is one of the older cases. (It is also important because her mother–a convert to Islam–participated.) There are many, many more more recent and equally brutal instances of honor killing of Muslim girls in America, by their fathers, brothers, uncles, boyfriends, etc. Too bad Megyn Kelly didn’t note any of those or any of the details. It would have been more demonstrative of how violent and deadly the religion is.
DS
Debbie Schlussel on December 17, 2007 at 4:33 PM
Good for you.
Bryan on December 17, 2007 at 4:34 PM
I didn’t miss that at all. Didn’t you see my immediate follow-up post?
Frozen Tex on December 17, 2007 at 4:38 PM
I saw this live and was extremely disappointed Kelly was the only one to challenge the CAIR fool. She did fair, but needed help.
Fair and balanced? Fox should have had someone to bring up other instances of muslim honor killings, or show us where in the Koran it teaches these horrible things. Spencer? Ayaan, anyone not from CAIR.
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Nice MM plug tho.
shooter on December 17, 2007 at 4:47 PM
John Gibson would have been a better choice to do this interview.
Even though it goes back to 1991, the murder of Tina Isa is just crying out to be made into a movie. Too bad there’s no one in Hollywood who would make it.
Buy Danish on December 17, 2007 at 5:13 PM
Ahmed Rehab fingers crossed “Islam does not believe in honor killing! We are a sect…er…religion of peace.”
Golfer_75093 on December 17, 2007 at 5:52 PM
I wonder, out loud, if this CAIR tool would only appear if he was broadcast unopposed? Or if CAIR has a policy of only appearing on ntnl TV unopposed, on these and other selective sensitive issues?
Why wouldn’t Fox have someone more studied on islam and the Koranic ways to counter his rhetoric?
shooter on December 17, 2007 at 5:54 PM
I’ve wondered that myself. Maybe the 25% Muslim ownership in Newscorp?
P. James Moriarty on December 17, 2007 at 7:16 PM
CAIR will do absolutely nothing.
And they’ll have a lot of company including NOW and Amnesty International.
It’s baffling to me why the only people to speak for this poor girl are (for the most part) white, Christian and male.
Like where is Mother Sheenan or the Rosenator?
Nothing from “She who would be president” either?
This girl wasn’t killed because she wouldn’t do her homework, y’know.
In a society that takes parents to court for spanking their children, killing them is now OK?
I don’t get it.
G-man on December 17, 2007 at 7:59 PM
I don’t believe any Muslims when it comes to their religion. I think they are all ashamed of the fact that it doesn’t square with the values of the rest of the world and yet they have been so brainwashed that they can’t stop believing it.
Stoneings, beheadings, and honor killings don’t mesh well with most of the world. The only way we can co-exist with the Muslims is to keep them separated and that is something that could have been done so easily if it wasn’t for them sitting on top of the worlds oil supply.
Political correctness and oil is forceing us to pamper and pander to an out-moded religion. The West better wise up pretty quick. We have acceptable procedures for dealing with disease control. Why not practice a little of it. These people think nothing of resisting the spread of Christianity in their nations why shouldn’t we recipricate?
Ernest on December 18, 2007 at 9:37 AM
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