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posted at 10:10 pm on December 14, 2007 by Allahpundit
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“American foreign policy needs to change its tone and attitude, open up, and reach out. The Bush administration’s arrogant bunker mentality has been counterproductive at home and abroad. My administration will recognize that the United States’ main fight today does not pit us against the world but pits the world against the terrorists…
As president, my goal in the Arab and Muslim worlds will be to calibrate a course between maintaining stability and promoting democracy. It is self-defeating to attempt too much too soon: doing so could mean holding elections that the extremists would win. But it is also self-defeating to do nothing. We must first destroy existing terrorist groups and then attack the underlying conditions that breed them: the lack of basic sanitation, health care, education, jobs, a free press, fair courts — which all translates into a lack of opportunity and hope. The United States’ strategic interests as the world’s most powerful country coincide with its moral obligations as the richest. If we do not do the right thing to improve life in the Muslim world, the terrorists will step in and do the wrong thing…
Sun-tzu’s ancient wisdom is relevant today: “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.” Yet we have not had diplomatic relations with Iran in almost 30 years; the U.S. government usually communicates with the Iranian government through the Swiss embassy in Tehran. When one stops talking to a parent or a friend, differences cannot be resolved and relationships cannot move forward. The same is true for countries. The reestablishment of diplomatic ties will not occur automatically or without the Iranians’ making concessions that serve to create a less hostile relationship…
Whereas there can be no rational dealings with al Qaeda, Iran is a nation-state seeking regional clout and playing the game of power politics we understand and can skillfully pursue. We cannot live with al Qaeda, but we might be able to live with a contained Iran.”
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I wish I were greedo right about now.
Pretend root causes.
Real root causes - lack of freedom and choice of governance.
Didn’t we already discuss this?
lorien1973 on December 14, 2007 at 10:16 PM
Geez, what a putz this guy turned out to be.
Way to go, evangelicals. Keep it up.
Purple Fury on December 14, 2007 at 10:17 PM
curious if Iran is the parent or the friend in this scenario?
lorien1973 on December 14, 2007 at 10:20 PM
What more can be said about this bozo?
The blogosphere hates him; virtually every Conservative opinion maker regards him as a disaster. So what gives?
I guess Sean Hannity has more influence than I thought.
edgehead on December 14, 2007 at 10:26 PM
Oy…
Yeah, that’s why they hate us.
amerpundit on December 14, 2007 at 10:28 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the American Dhimmi of the Year!
What a douchebag. If the Bush administration were any more “open” it would be invisible.
Jaibones on December 14, 2007 at 10:29 PM
Ann Coulter is right, he is the Republican Jimmy Carter.
News Flash Huckleberry, much of al Qaeda isn’t the poor uneducated slobs, although they save them for a bomb vest fitting.
Greedo died, Hans shot first.
Kini on December 14, 2007 at 10:31 PM
I smell peanuts…
AZCON on December 14, 2007 at 10:33 PM
If you want to sound tough and wise–especially when you’re not–what better way than to quote Sun-Tzu AND The Godfather all at once? It’s a twofer. Too bad nothing can change the fact that the Huckster’s a joke on foreign policy.
I’m already sick of this fraud. I wonder who wrote that piece for him?
ReubenJCogburn on December 14, 2007 at 10:33 PM
So what gives?
edgehead on December 14, 2007 at 10:26 PM
It was what I feared when Rudy become the top dog. Rudy is a nonstarter for those that believe in gun and no abortion rights. Mitt flipped flopped his way onto the stage. McCain imploded on immigration. Fred was the only canidate that could bring the conservatives into the fold but Rudy and Mitt supporters attacked the man as lazy and a non conservative thinking that it would help their guy. Their guy Rudy and Mitt could never capture the South therefore the attacks on Fred were able to open the door to huckebee who would never have been given a second look if Fred was left alone and not gang raped by Rudy, Mitt and the media.
so now we have Huck the other “conservative” The conservative base so long left out in the wind by Bush and Co will not allow another Rino into office. So the conservative base is looking for a conservative. They have weighted and measured Mcain, Rudy, and Mitt and found them wanting on policy and world views. They have audtuioned Fred and found him wanting on ambition and delivery. Now they are weighing Huck. I think they will also find him wanting on crime and forgeign policy. So it will be a hung nomination convention and deals will be struck and the base will end up staying home come next NOV.
unseen on December 14, 2007 at 10:37 PM
Identifying the problem.
Seems to be speaking, more or less anyway, to the folly of trying to build western style democracy in Islamic counties.
Grade B.
Identifying the problem.
You fracken moron!
The underling conditions are Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam and Islam!!!
Grade F.
MB4 on December 14, 2007 at 10:37 PM
Given that Iran has power of the purse over a number of it’s proxies, what is the huckster’s plan for forcing them to give that up?
Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on December 14, 2007 at 10:37 PM
ReubenJCogburn on December 14, 2007 at 10:33 PM
I’m inclined to believe he wrote it, with someone feeding him the Sun-Tzu line.
Is there really any doubt that these are his thoughts, though?
bert169 on December 14, 2007 at 10:37 PM
As for the poor and uneducated part.
Osama bin Laden was/is extremely rich. His second in command, Zawahiri, is a doctor.
amerpundit on December 14, 2007 at 10:40 PM
We will explore, we will conserve, and we will pursue all types of alternative energy: nuclear, wind, solar, ethanol, hydrogen, clean coal, biomass, and biodiesel.
nm.. ok. Hows about the 15 trillion barrels of oil we have here at home? All the cash we can save in the next twenty years by drilling our own we can invest in all that other fancy-ass technology.
amend2 on December 14, 2007 at 10:41 PM
Oh BTW Monsignor The High Reverend Huckster, God and Chuck’s chosen one, peace be upon you, the karate force be with you, a big additional problem in Iraq is all the Sunni v. Shiite animosity, kind of like what you are trying to promote in America between Evangelicals and Mormons.
MB4 on December 14, 2007 at 10:44 PM
Oh my!…
This fool makes Jimmy Carter sound like a [expletive deleted] genius,
and he is leading in the polls?
Oh wait, there’s four more pages???
Does it get better? I didn’t make it through the third paragraph.
rockhauler on December 14, 2007 at 10:44 PM
Ann Coulter was RIGHT(no pun intended)
“Huckabee is the Republican Jimmy Carter”
Huckabee: “.. but we might be able to live with a contained Iran.”
——–
Would that be before or after the destruction?
Nelsa on December 14, 2007 at 10:45 PM
You dudes are harsh.
Allahpundit on December 14, 2007 at 10:46 PM
This man must be stopped. I’m serious.
baldilocks on December 14, 2007 at 10:46 PM
Well it probably wasn’t Chuck as he does not seem to have a clue about anything that The High Reverend Huckster stands for, except that he is also wants to theocratize America and he hates Mormons.
MB4 on December 14, 2007 at 10:48 PM
Trotting out that “root causes” crap to see if it’ll stick. Either he’s that stupid or he thinks we are.
baldilocks on December 14, 2007 at 10:51 PM
Identifying the problem.
Seems to be speaking, more or less anyway, to the folly of trying to build western style democracy in Islamic counties.
Grade B.
Identifyingsolving the problem.You fracken moron!
The underling conditions are Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam and Islam!!!
Grade F.
MB4 on December 14, 2007 at 10:52 PM
Yeah, just a little.
terryannonline on December 14, 2007 at 10:54 PM
Huckabee is the final straw being grasped by Americans looking to vote for “God’s candidate”. Rudy’s too apathetic, Romney’s too Mormon, McCain’s too old, and Fred doesn’t wear enough WWJD bracelets. With Fred turning out to be not “Christian enough” (whatever that means — frankly, I view that kind of social-identity religiosity to be less Christianity and more clique Churchianity)
Huckabee’s popularity is artificially inflated and completely lacking any of the significant foundation that the other major candidates have — Rudy’s GWOT/foreign policy talk, Romney’s superb executive talent, McCain’s experience and military hero status, Fred’s rock-solid conservative principles.
Huckabee’s only apparent claims to fame are that he’s got a BA in religion (big friggin’ deal, I’ve got an MA of Theology but that doesn’t qualify me to be POTUS) and is a former pastor. While that certainly makes him the “most Christian” candidate, in Nov 2008 America won’t be electing a Pastor-in-Chief.
There’s absolutely no need to worry about Huckabee being elected President. If you want to worry about something, worry that he’ll be named as the GOP nominee. Frankly, tho, I’m not worried at all, as I expect his support to disintegrate as quickly as it arose as his supporters are confronted by the cold shower of his principles, record, and platform.
Be not afraid, my conservative friends. The Huckaboom has passed; the Huckabomb looms nigh.
Harpazo on December 14, 2007 at 10:56 PM
We will explore, we will conserve, and we will pursue all types of alternative energy: nuclear, wind, solar, ethanol, hydrogen, clean coal, biomass, and biodiesel
hm.. thats the only thing that stuck out to me.
We need to drill our own energy(OIL) and then we can save and earn enough money to discover all that fancy-ass energy.
Thats the most liberal concept I’ve heard from HU-
Definitions of huckster on the Web:
a seller of shoddy goods
peddle: sell or offer for sale from place to place
a person who writes radio or tv advertisements
amend2 on December 14, 2007 at 10:56 PM
Hey Huck, why don’t we try improving relations with the people who are under the heel of the theocrat thugs that run Iran? Maybe you oughta reach out to women like this Huck, not the ones pushing her around. Damn you.
Bad Candy on December 14, 2007 at 11:00 PM
Yep. Somebody has to be, and obviously his supporters aren’t going apply critical thinking to God’s Chosen Candidate. I don’t see how we have any choice but to hammer his shortcomings over and over again in the hopes of stimulating a little brain activity.
ReubenJCogburn on December 14, 2007 at 11:02 PM
Huckabee is “Greedo”
….and I’M Han Solo…..ZAP!
grtflmark on December 14, 2007 at 11:04 PM
Debbie Schlussel, even more pi$$ed off about Islam than usual when she found out that the government of Iraq, that we support at such great cost, is now disarming all women, even police women, making it much easier for manly man Iraqi Taliban types to use and abuse them and rape and kill them if they don’t behave in the proper Muslim sharia manner.
Debbie Schlussel: Bush’s “Democratic” Extremist Iraq: Policewomen Ordered to Turn in Guns, Sent to Desk Duty
By Debbie Schlussel
After American spent gazillions of your tax dollars in training Iraqi women to use guns and patrol the streets as police officers, the extremist Shi’ite government of Iraq decided to make that spending yet another complete waste.
Last month, the Iraqi government–you know the one that Bush claimed, in his silly, fatal democracy experiment, would treat women with respect and restore human rights–ordered all women serving in its police forces to turn over their guns for redistribution to men and reassigned all of these women to desk duty. Hmmm . . . so why did we waste all of this money training them to shoot and patrol streets? Judging from the picture in the news story, I’m not so sure this is the kind of police force–in the full ninja Islamic chick outfit–that we had in mind. But still, this is yet more proof that giving the Iraq sector of Greater Barbaria “democracy” was yet another exercise in HAMASHezbollahMuslimBrotherhoodKhomeiniSadr idiocy.
Anyway, I’ve been repeatedly screaming that handing democracy to the religion of headchoppers simply will never work in our favor. It will only solidify extremism.
And this is yet more proof. But no surprise.
Did I support going into Iraq? Yes. Did I support staying there and giving them “democracy”? Hell, no. I supported getting in, removing Saddam, turning over the country to a Shah-esque, pro-U.S. dictator and getting out. Had we done that, Bush would be a hero. Barbarians cannot handle democracy. It only hurts America when they get it.
But instead of facing this fact, Bush–as we know–is into this whole “Islam is peace” and needs democracy BS. And that’s why we have stories like this.
MB4 on December 14, 2007 at 11:05 PM
You LIKED it, didn’t you A.P.?
.
You’re a huck guy.
Huck/B. Hussein ticket?
shooter on December 14, 2007 at 11:12 PM
The more you hear from some candidates, the more you like them. Huckabee has the opposite effect. After only a couple weeks of listening to him, I never want to hear from him again.
Resolute on December 14, 2007 at 11:13 PM
This actually isn’t as bad as a lot of people are making it out to be. Huck’s rhetoric doesn’t make me that uncomfortable, and besides the talk of “root causes” is not all that different, on the surface, from some of that in Giuliani’s essay in Foreign Affairs which many conservatives loved. The real difference between the two is that while we can be sure that somebody like Rudy or McCain will ruthlessly pursue our national interest when confronted with international problems, Huck seems to be underinformed and soft. I want somebody who will stand his ground in the face of withering criticism from foreign leaders, and I’m not sure Huck is that guy.
Big S on December 14, 2007 at 11:17 PM
I hope you’re right, but fear his supporters won’t be fazed “by the cold shower of his principles, record, and platform”. I don’t think logic or rational are part of the equation for his supporters. This is an emotional thing for them, and Huck has exploited it. But, if they are going to be fazed by that cold shower so it impacts the primaries, I wish they would move along just a bit faster.
a capella on December 14, 2007 at 11:18 PM
…the base will end up staying home come next NOV.
..unless, Alan Keyes either wins the nomination or runs as an off party….
Don’t laugh.
He’s serious.
He’s passionate.
He’s a real conservative.
Nobody’s happy with any of the potential front runner RINO’S: Fred, Rudy, Huck, McCain, Mitt.
This is a new world with the new media running the country.
My prediction:
Because - of the immigration hornets nest - strict controls are desired by 80% of the people on borders, sovereignty, spending, security, not too mention education choice..
…an Independent/off party candidate will, mark my words, rock the ‘08 election good-old-guard-world, like nothing you have ever seen!
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And Allahpundit you are biased and shooting yourself in the foot for not supporting/endorsing, blogging Alan Keyes.
How’s that for harsh?
Merry Christmas.
Just think, whoever calls this one correctly will go down in history as a great blogger.
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.
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In the meanwhile.. I’m going fishing.
See you when I get back…. which could be after Christmas.. who knows.
But by then Big A, I hope to see some blogging on Alan Keyes.
Otherwise I’m writing you off for being biased and smug and cool. And you may never benefit from “my clicking” your website.
Who knows…
Mcguyver on December 14, 2007 at 11:20 PM
As much as I dislike Ann Couters tatics she is right Huckabee is the Republican’s Jimmy Carter
KBird on December 14, 2007 at 11:21 PM
It’s the most painful thing I’ve watched since Bush’s last State of the Union address.
He’s making the Republicans look like religious idiots. Not only as fanatics, but as stupefied morons.
Redhead Infidel on December 14, 2007 at 11:23 PM
To know know know him
Is to gag gag gag on him
Just to see that conniving smile
Makes my life icky more than once in a while
To know know know him
Is to gag gag gag on him
And we do, and we do, and we do
Oh, we’ll be hard on him
We’ll bring heat on him
Everyone says there’ll come a day
When we’ll be rid of him
To know know know him
Is to gag gag gag on him
And we do, and we do, and we do
Why can’t the sheeple see
How blind can they be
Someday they’ll see
That he was not meant for we
To know know know him
Is to gag gag gag on him
Just to see that conniving smile
Makes my life icky more than once in a while
To know know know him
Is to gag gag gag on him
And we do, and we do, and we do
MB4 on December 14, 2007 at 11:26 PM
Okay, bye.
Allahpundit on December 14, 2007 at 11:33 PM
Didn’t this site do some blogging about Alan Keyes? I think it pointed out some of his statements.
Guess it’s too bad that Keyes spent his undeserved time at the debate acting like a total jerk.
Slublog on December 14, 2007 at 11:36 PM
I’m sure his lips were moving, but was that what really came out?
Dusty on December 14, 2007 at 11:39 PM
Oh, for crying out loud! All over the world, people live in squalid conditions. But most of them aren’t hacking off heads with a rusty scythe. It’s their ideology that drives the Islamo-Fascists to hate us.
Mike Huckabee is an intellectual goober, and his nomination would rend the Republican Party.
paul006 on December 14, 2007 at 11:42 PM
Was he being sarcastic about Keyes? Seemed like it…
Bad Candy on December 14, 2007 at 11:43 PM
Didn’t seem that way to me.
TRUE BELIEVER.
Slublog on December 14, 2007 at 11:43 PM
This isn’t Jimmy Carter nor Obama. Seems like he is trying to reach out a bit and I don’t anticipate any of the other candidates doing any less (no matter what they may say now).
bnelson44 on December 14, 2007 at 11:44 PM
Me too. I think it was a dig at yet another huckabee post.
lorien1973 on December 14, 2007 at 11:45 PM
1) Barack Obama pounced Alan Keyes in Illinois. It was a gruesome.
2) Allahpundit is not biased, he equally shows cynicism to every candidate, ok.
terryannonline on December 14, 2007 at 11:45 PM
You people need to lighten up on Huck. He’s not that bad. I don’t agree with him on several issues but I can say the same about all the others. ANYBODY is better than a Democrat in the White House. And this “blame the Christians” nonsense. Enough already. If anything, the blame belongs on the other candidates for their inability to convince the Christians to trust them. Christians make up the vast majority of our population. To ignore them or to go against their values could very easily be political suicide.
Can we please have some thoughtful discussion as opposed to all the Star Wars references? I mean seriously. I find it difficult to consider someones opinion on the Presidency when that person pretends to be Han Solo shooting at Greedo or whatever.
Personally I can’t tell if most of the Republicans aren’t just saying what we want to hear. At least with Huck I know that the man “tells it like he sees it”. I may not agree with him but I feel like I know what I’ll get if he’s elected. I have no real assurance that the others aren’t just blowing smoke and not deliver on their promises.
Just my opinion
Guardian on December 14, 2007 at 11:48 PM
“I can’t believe I’m losing to this guy.” –Rudy
HarryBalzac on December 14, 2007 at 11:48 PM
Didn’t France just get rid of this guy?
Connie on December 14, 2007 at 11:50 PM
Why no terrorists from Africa?
Tzetzes on December 14, 2007 at 11:51 PM
Bold = mine
I find this particularly interesting since Gilchrist who heads the MMP and has endorsed Huckster, is at odds with Chris Simcox, who heads up the rival MCDC, has a few money credibility problems of his own, and is in neck deep with the good Dr. Keyes in some funny tax exempt charitable group activity. It is one of the things that makes the Keyes tantrums about our lack of moral fiber so entertaining to watch.
a capella on December 14, 2007 at 11:51 PM
We’re already gone this route, but many Christians on this forum do not trust Huckabee and do trust other candidates.
Connie on December 14, 2007 at 11:53 PM
The Republican Obama. A completely empty suit. Does not mean harm, but is too stupid to do what is right. He is a “what would Jesus do?” type rather than a “what would Caesar do?” type. We have had enough of these Metrosexuals. They are a danger to the country and the world. He is more concerned about going to heaven than women being tortured daily by Muslims and a nuclear bomb in Tel Aviv or New York. Cut him off.
pat on December 14, 2007 at 11:55 PM
“this forum” will NOT elect the next president.
Guardian on December 14, 2007 at 11:55 PM
I think we need to have a group intervention with Tehran.
We need to tell them our feelings, and that we care.
Tzetzes on December 14, 2007 at 11:55 PM
Are you trying to make a point? If so, I’m not sure what it is. This forum is made up of American citizens who will vote.
Connie on December 14, 2007 at 11:58 PM
Like I said earlier, Hokeybeeis a boob!
Gatordoug on December 14, 2007 at 11:58 PM
He ain’t much good, either. But I do think we’re nearing a critical mass with Huck where so many people have soured on him to such an extent that any move he makes is sneered at and summarily dismissed.
I’m going to read this piece again in the morning with an open mind and see what I think. The idea of helping Muslims to build up their infrastructure lest jihadis fill the vacuum isn’t a bad one; we’re following that policy in Anbar at this very moment. But Huck’s big-government “do unto others” philosophy suggests he has something much grander in scope in mind here. Which, insofar as it means he thinks terrorism is caused by poverty, makes me nervous.
Allahpundit on December 15, 2007 at 12:00 AM
I’m sure Huck just wants to make friends with the world.
Tzetzes on December 15, 2007 at 12:02 AM
Jesus was a metrosexual? No wonder I keep getting him and David Beckham confused.
dedalus on December 15, 2007 at 12:02 AM
Well stated!
Gatordoug on December 15, 2007 at 12:02 AM
Overall, the article is somewhat shallow, but not completely worthless. But if Huckabee really wants to be taken seriously on foreign policy, he’s got to stop using analogies like this:
We have long been one of the more charitable countries in the world. Our generosity has not done us much good, so personally, I’m wondering if it’s time to listen to Machiavelli and realize it’s much safer to be feared than loved.
Slublog on December 15, 2007 at 12:06 AM
The kinds of Christians that gravitate to Huckabee are actually a minority of the population. The problem that a lot of others have with them is that they act as if they are a majority, like you do here. It’s not the other candidates’ jobs to be as godly as possible, and guys like Thompson, Romney, McCain, and Giuliani would all make decent to great presidents. It’s not so much an issue of trust, as an issue of very religious conservative Christians’ inability to compromise on what they think is God’s law.
Big S on December 15, 2007 at 12:06 AM
Yea, but dumping on the guy is much needed therapy for me… every time I read a new poll that has him in a triple digit lead among both Democrats and Republicans!
edgehead on December 15, 2007 at 12:08 AM
Gee, odd it may be I actually got off my lazy arse and RESERACHED the candidates myself! I found out what their ideals and principles were.
Gatordoug on December 15, 2007 at 12:09 AM
The good news is: look how Hillary has begun tanking. Two weeks ago she was “invincible“. I think many in her party recognize her weaknesses as a candidate in the general election. The same thing can happen to Huck with time to spare.
As much as I have been dreaming of the chance of running against her, I think Obama and Silky are just as weak.
edgehead on December 15, 2007 at 12:13 AM
Hatin’ Huckabee is what brings us together…
Tzetzes on December 15, 2007 at 12:14 AM
Silky’s a deeply flawed candidate, but Obama would be really tough to beat.
Big S on December 15, 2007 at 12:16 AM
I’m a Christian. And 90% of the people I run with are both Christian and Conservative or Republican. I don’t know a soul who is openly supporting Huckabee.
edgehead on December 15, 2007 at 12:17 AM
The WWJD types often end up looking like metrosexuals because, without J’s wisdom and “skillz,” they are reduced to merely mimicking his milder and non-miraculous aspects. Or, conversely, they look like fascists when try to take on more power and responsibility than they’re wise enough to wield. In short, they’re not Jesus so they can’t do what he did/does.
Whenever somebody asks the question WWJD in relation to politics I say that J would “render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s.” We evangelicals too often forget this.
baldilocks on December 15, 2007 at 12:17 AM
Maybe. The problem though, is that you can’t secure everything. The towers came down with box cutters. There are so many additional potential targets that Chertoff hasn’t done enough about.
dedalus on December 15, 2007 at 12:17 AM
My point is that even though a handful of people on this forum hate Huckabee as a Candidate, a hell of a lot people don’t see it that way (if we are so inclined to believe any of the polls that is). Which means that the other Candidates have failed to convince most of the voters so far. At least that’s my opinion on why Huckabee is doing so well in the polls.
Guardian on December 15, 2007 at 12:18 AM
Nah. He’s got NO EXPERIENCE and he’s as liberal as Kucinich when you look at his voting record.
He’s a media creation and has never been seriously vetted.
edgehead on December 15, 2007 at 12:19 AM
It’s a marriage of convenience.
It won’t last.
MB4 on December 15, 2007 at 12:20 AM
Iowa…are you listening?
Limerick on December 15, 2007 at 12:21 AM
I am sure some are, he says what they WANT to hear. AMD yes, the media IS pushing him
Gatordoug on December 15, 2007 at 12:21 AM
The man is a liberal. Plain and simple. He has bad teeth. A ‘Lil Abner name. And he’s ugly. His wife is either shy beyond any measure, hates him and his politics and/or is completely backwards or the worse possiblilty is named Chuck Norris. We’re not sure. He is married isn’t he? Arrogant comes to mind. Corrupt is another. Dumber than horse manure.
Griz on December 15, 2007 at 12:24 AM
I don’t disagree with your point, but then I’ve always had a “church & state” point of view. I’m guessing this has been asked before here, though I’m too tired right now to click around–but isn’t Huck the inevitable result of Falwell’s work in the early 80’s? If candidates have had to attest to their faith or identify Jesus as their favorite philosopher doesn’t it prove out a marketplace for someone like Huck to appeal to?
I like Christians and admire much about their religion, but I’ve always been more concerned with the oath to the Constitution than the hand on the Bible.
dedalus on December 15, 2007 at 12:25 AM
This is the sort of thing I’m talking about. You guys are welcome to it, but for basic ethical reasons I have to try to give him a fair shake.
Allahpundit on December 15, 2007 at 12:26 AM
Go ahead shake him, it might shake some common sense into him. Otherwise just vote for Thompson
Gatordoug on December 15, 2007 at 12:28 AM
Shaken but not stirred.
MB4 on December 15, 2007 at 12:34 AM
Things like that are why I like Allahpundit.
Compromise is what brought us the Civil War instead of just ending slavery and being done with it.
- The Cat
P.S. I’m for Fred but with some on the comments on here against Huck from the vehemently anti-Christian types are pushing me towards him. Being known much more by your enemies then by your friends and all.
MirCat on December 15, 2007 at 12:37 AM
FRED THOMPSON’S CAMPAIGN is trying to get 2400 donors in 24 hours. They’re pushing the “show of hands” video and asking “Don’t you want a conservative leader who won’t grovel to the liberal media?”
bnelson44 on December 15, 2007 at 12:39 AM
This is why I lothe James Bond. Everyone makes martinis like that now, even though it bruises the liquor, all trying to be cool. James Bond wasn’t being kewl when he did this! He was being a punk!
Ok, I’m done now.
- The Cat
MirCat on December 15, 2007 at 12:43 AM
Huck reminds me of bitter medicine. You can’t believe something which seems so awful could actually be what you might need. I don’t like his ideas on foreign policy. It just seems so wrong but as you pointed out, it’s the same policy that’s working in Anbar and other places too. At least so far anyway.
Guardian on December 15, 2007 at 12:45 AM
Looks to me like telling people what they want to hear is exactly what’s gotten the Huckster this far. Obviously you won’t see it that way, but how can you have any assurance that he’s any different from the rest of the field? And the fact of the matter is, you can’t. Now maybe you don’t like that answer, or choose not to recognize it, but he’s just a man like all the rest. Just another politician trying to get elected to the most powerful office in the world–one who just happened to have a large number of 11th-hour conversions on a bunch of issues important to gaining the Republican nomination. Now you can’t see into his heart to know what he really believes, any more than the rest of us can–all we have to go on are his actions. Is there something that entitles Huckabee to a free pass, that makes him exempt from the same kind of scrutiny that every other candidate gets? Because I see no reason to give him a free ride, and plenty of reasons not to.
ReubenJCogburn on December 15, 2007 at 12:52 AM
If you pour alcohol on the bruise it won’t get infected.
bnelson44 on December 15, 2007 at 12:58 AM
Me too. He seems all too willing to pony up the jiyza using my (our) money. So it’s not only socialism for us, we’re going to have to pay for them too? Not good.
This guy has got to go.
techno_barbarian on December 15, 2007 at 12:58 AM
Is there really a difference between a bleeding heart liberal and a bleeding heart Christian?
Malkin said it best:
“the Jimmy Carter of the Republican Party”.
C-Low on December 15, 2007 at 1:01 AM
I didn’t read every post, this is just from the first few. Here’s my contribution:
ASSHOLE
/Captain Morgan
urbancenturion on December 15, 2007 at 1:03 AM
Heh. Thought people here might like this:
The Real Mike Huckabee - Exposing the Dope from Hope
Michael in MI on December 15, 2007 at 1:14 AM
I continue to feel compelled to defend Mike Huckabee and I’m still convinced he’d hurt the party were he the nominee
bnelson44 on December 15, 2007 at 1:15 AM
If a used car dealer and a televangelist had a child it would be Mike Hokeybee!
Gatordoug on December 15, 2007 at 1:17 AM
The United States’ strategic interests as the world’s most powerful country coincide with its moral obligations as the richest. If we do not do the right thing to improve life in the Muslim world, the terrorists will step in and do the wrong thing…
This comes across a bit broad at first glance but there’s a lot of truth to what he’s saying.
We are in fact (as Allah noted) trying to improve life (services, justice, representation AND security) in Iraq for exactly these reasons.
Wasn’t this very much the reasoning behind the Marshall Plan? We learned after WWI not to leave our former enemies groveling, but to rebuild once we’d won so they don’t fall for the first strongman (Hitler/Osama) when he comes along. Isn’t that what Huck is saying?
Frankly, sounds like he’s been listening to Bono to me. I’m serious about that. Disagree with his premise if you want, but it’s not necessarily a bad argument or even a liberal one. It actually has a good track record.
John on December 15, 2007 at 1:24 AM
Just run him with Bloomberg, god
Defector01 on December 15, 2007 at 1:25 AM
Gatordoug on December 15, 2007 at 1:17 AM
I posted about Mike Huckabee on my MySpace blog and responded to a comment there with this (it’s the one thing I am getting a little worried about in all this ‘Huckamania’):
Michael in MI on December 15, 2007 at 1:32 AM
Nail on head, Michael.
Connie on December 15, 2007 at 1:34 AM
Ditto. I’m not religious, but most of the time religious people and I share the same enemies, and I have no desire to see the Left get any stronger in this country. The media is obviously pushing Huckabee, and when the enemy likes one of our guys that’s a really bad sign. And his whole Mormon-baiting strategy (for which I despise him) just played right into their hands.
ReubenJCogburn on December 15, 2007 at 1:58 AM
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