This is ‘The Big One’ folks. I know you might of heard it before, but this is it. The one. The only. The decision.

Here’s my question:

Is there a single Huckabee supporter in the world who is NOT an evangelical Christian?

Since we can’t really answer that, is there a single one posting on this site?

I get a kick out of AC, and I’m no defender of the mainstream media, but if Huckabee is the nominee we have no one but the Christianists to blame.

peski on December 14, 2007 at 6:45 PM

Don’t blame us. How about blaming those in control of promoting nominees? Most evangelicals I know, especially Baptists, are backing Duncan Hunter.

ronsfi on December 16, 2007 at 3:10 PM

That was dumb, made no sense, and shows just how much you know about Christians.

Mojave Mark on December 16, 2007 at 1:33 PM

Throw you down the well, hang you, throw in a pit and burn you,
Extreme indeed.

Ryan Gandy on December 15, 2007 at 11:16 PM

I beg your pardon; my sentence was supposed to have a question mark at the end. I don’t claim to know other peoples’ faiths, so I try to state only what they claim.

As for Rational Thought, she was stating that the Huckster is a religious extremist Christian, and that she would sooner vote for Hillary, and I was trying to point out that Hillary also claims to be a devout Christian, so there’s not much to differentiate.

Jodella on December 16, 2007 at 12:37 AM

Neither do I. That sort of attack is completely baseless, stupid and actually sounds like something Rosie “Fire Can’t Melt Steel But It Melted My Brain” O’Donnell would engage in.

Just wanted to address one more aspect of your reply.

I never claimed to be a “victim” of anything. I was frustrated to see my faith misrepresented yet again by someone who knows nothing about it, so I responded.

implications for the future of not just the Republican party, but for all conservatives.

Nessuno on December 14, 2007 at 7:22 PM

I’m going to read the rest of the thread now… but this really jumped out at me…

To be honest it was your “Southern Baptist arm of the Taliban” comment that set me off. There have been many comments on this board comparing Evangelicals to the jihadists. In case you didn’t know, most people consider Baptists to be Evangelicals, which is why I was assuming you were talking about Evangelicals.
Also, many people make condescending blanket statements about Evangelicals on this site, implying that they are like sheep with no faculties to think for themselves. You in particular did not do that, so I apologize if I sounded like I was blaming you.
The comment about wives submitting to their husbands came out of Ephesians 5 and was taken out of context. As a Christian, it is hard for me to see scripture taken out of context and then in the next sentence see my denomination talked about as being an “arm of the Taliban.” Men in the Taliban who follow sharia law share no characteristics with Southern Baptist men. I don’t think my response was overblown, sorry. I don’t notice any Evangelicals on this site comparing anyone to Jihadists or the Taliban in some ad hominem attack.

Jaibones on December 15, 2007 at 3:37 PM

*Ahem* …

Hillary IS a devout Christian. She and her husband are Methodists.

If I were you, I’d think long and hard on who you shoot your mouth off to and call “knucklehead.”

The simple fact is that he wouldn’t be on the cover of Newsweek if evangelicals hadn’t handed him 35% of the vote in Iowa.

That could be the dumbest sentence I’ve ever read here! I guess someone here thinks the Iowa caucus has already happened. I mean no one can be so intellectually vacant as to believe a poll a month before the votes are actually counted.

He is liberal when it comes to taxes and illegal immigration

Huck is a very vocal and strong supporter of the Fair Tax.
Doesn’t anyone think thta might have something to do with his lift in the polls?

Evolution can be disproven with science, Creation can’t be.

Yes, the theory of evolution is testable and falsifiable. That is part of what makes it a scientific theory. Evolution doesn’t seek to explain the origin of the universe nor does it say anything about God’s existence.

What Huck does a good job of is allowing the scientists and theologians to coexist. The Catholic church has also been quite thoughtful on this point, not seeing it as essential to deny science in order to maintain belief.

No, it’s not Huckabee that will be the end of the Republican party. It’s people like you who can’t see past the nose of their face who will be the end of the Republican party. I’m an Evangelical, and I’m getting sick and tired of being compared to people who blow other people up without a second thought. Also, I’m sick of being talked of in condescending terms like I have no intelligence because of what I believe.

I didn’t paint evangelicals with a broad brush, nor did I suggest that you have no intelligence. I said that Huckabee endorses a brand of Christianity which implores wives to “submit” to their husbands. We don’t practice submission here in the US; we’re in the business of liberty. Therefore, he is an intolerable candidate. I never mentioned evangelicals at all. Are you defending Huckabee’s religious “interpretation” regarding women? If not, your response is just overblown. Hmmmm, religious people over-reacting, seeing full-scale condemnation of their faith where there is none, demonizing their critics, and claiming victim status? What does that remind me of…oh, never mind.

Rational Thought on December 15, 2007 at 12:57 PM

Nobody told you that Hillary claims to be a devout Christian. Knucklehead…

Jaibones on December 15, 2007 at 3:37 PM

Well, I don’t believe a word Hillary says. Are you suggesting that Huckabee is a sham artist, too? Good. Then all the more reason he is a disaster for the GOP. Thanks for clearing that up.

And the best anyone has to offer is the merest hint of inflation.

I heard an MSM type say “stagflation” Friday in the news blurb right after Rush’s show. He should be shot for gross incompetence.

Bernanke and the Fed likely cut 25bp on Tuesday instead of the 50bp the market wanted due to inflation concerns. On Friday the equity markets fell about 1.3% in reaction to higher-than-expected CPI data. I think the Fed knew the CPI number or had a strong feeling about it when they elected to not go 50bp.

The MSM has little effect on traders or economists at investment banks. Inflation is a concern and there is consensus on an economic downturn in 2008, with 1% to 2% economic growth for the year and maybe a flat DJIA. You could have a combination of a recession and inflation.

I hope things are better but there is a lot that the economy has to work through with subprime, liquidity, and real estate prices before we can return to growth.

Your employment observations are correct but employment is a lagged indicator. Businesses wait to hire after the start of a boom and layoff happen just after the markets head downward.

Rational Thought on December 15, 2007 at 12:57 PM

Nobody told you that Hillary claims to be a devout Christian. Knucklehead…

Wen the God of the 80% stops hiding.

MB4 on December 15, 2007 at 1:16 AM

Funny you should mention that. God does hide Himself (Isa. 45:15), and if you wait too long, it becomes too late.

Moreover,

stagflation

Stagflation? Really?!?!? with never-been-lower, record-low, historically astounding, almost non-existent unemployment? And the best anyone has to offer is the merest hint of inflation.

I heard an MSM type say “stagflation” Friday in the news blurb right after Rush’s show. He should be shot for gross incompetence.

However, Rollins has been accused of voter suppression while running Christine Todd Whitman’s successful gubernatorial race in New Jersey. In 1993, he said GOP operatives paid Democratic precinct workers in black areas to sit back on election day, and he also said the campaign contributed to church charities in return for black ministers to not talk to their congregations about Democratic incumbent James Florio.