Show of hands on the climate change question: Who was for it before they were against it?
posted at 12:03 am on December 13, 2007 by Allahpundit
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People are wondering in the comments to the Krauthammer thread which candidates actually went ahead and raised their hands before Fred objected, whereupon they all collectively decided it was a bad idea. Here’s the answer, just for giggles. From left: Giuliani, Hunter, Paul, Tancredo, Thompson, Romney, Huckabee, McCain, Keyes.
Rudy, Huck, and Maverick are all loud and proud, but is that Mitt I see at half-hearted half-mast? And then clapping after Fred takes a stand? Kind of the whole Romney dynamic in a nutshell, huh? Maybe I’m wrong, it’s hard to tell. You be the judge.
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Fred continues to impress me, even if he’s not as active as other candidates.
He’s the only one that was quick and witty enough to stand up against such a stupid question. On top of that, he was the only one strong enough to decline to answer the question if she was unwilling to let him answer correctly. It’s no wonder Fred doesn’t like the debate format, it’s ridiculous!
On top of that, how is it everyone was allowed to answer the question when she clearly said Fred could not?
ballz2wallz on December 13, 2007 at 10:13 AM
You know that really long talky stretch in Terminator 2 where Ah-nold and crew are hanging out in the desert, taking a breather and sharing their feelings? And you just can’t wait for the T-1000 to catch up and start the climactic big-budget a$$-kicking SFX spectacular?
I’m kinda hoping that’s where we are in the campaign.
saint kansas on December 13, 2007 at 10:20 AM
It was that bad of a debate that we can only focus on the 2 minutes of entertainment.
Like i said before: The moderator was the plant.
InstantNemesis on December 13, 2007 at 10:23 AM
Mitt?
Remember the 2004 election, when we were calling John efin’ Kerry a “French lookin’ poseur, with his finger in the wind.” ?
Just take a close look at Mitt.
franksalterego on December 13, 2007 at 10:29 AM
McCain:
“I want to reach out to our friends across the aisle.”
That kind of rhetoric may go over with his Congressional Cronies…It sure as hell, doesn’t pass the Smell Test with me.
I want someone, who’ll treat ‘em as the Rabid Dogs, they’ve proven themselves to be.
franksalterego on December 13, 2007 at 10:39 AM
I think this post is reading a little much into this. I would imagine that any candidate would wish to give some kind of clarification whether they were a born-again Man-Caused Global Warmbot or not. The question of who raised their hand is kind of silly.
I only really wish that more candidates had taken the opportunity that Thompson did and just pointed out what a childish idiot question that was. Hello – does PBS understand the word DEBATE…
Sheesh.
whatthecrap on December 13, 2007 at 11:26 AM
I’m wondering the same thing!?!
omnipotent on December 13, 2007 at 11:54 AM
What I don’t get is why, after denying Thompson a minute to explain his views on the topic, she proceeded to give McCain and Giuliani time to explain their positions on it. What was that about?
Blaise on December 13, 2007 at 12:03 PM
Those who do not bow before the leftist elite do not get fruit cup.
techno_barbarian on December 13, 2007 at 12:04 PM
My thoughts exactly! The only problem is that unless they form the ticket now before the nominee is selected, and presumably Mitt drops out and endorses Fred, it’s not likely either one will be on the ticket. I wonder if there’s any precedent for this type of scenario….
FloatingRock on December 13, 2007 at 12:24 PM
It was all about Ms Irongirdle maintaining strict discipline and keeping the train wreck on schedule.
I’ll bet the liberal candidates aren’t monitored with a stop watch.
Speakup on December 13, 2007 at 12:34 PM
You are born with leadership skills, Fred showed it spontaneously, he stood his ground, and everyone followed. When the pressure is on, followers turn to leaders, and that is what we saw.
McCain, sure of himself, Rudy sure of himself, Mitt, unsure of himself, but they all followed Fred.
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Now Fred has forced them to go back and talk to their strategists, and try to develop a scenario or ad that shows them as the leader. The next debate, or group meeting, and each one will be trying to pull a “Fred” out of their hat. With Fred it comes naturally, the rest were taught a lesson, and they will learn how.
right2bright on December 13, 2007 at 1:00 PM
She was witnessing her own self destruction and had to compensate to some degree.
InstantNemesis on December 13, 2007 at 1:03 PM
That’s exactly what was said by some of the people who I was watching this with. I agree with how Fred seems to exhibit more leadership skills.
geckomon on December 13, 2007 at 1:10 PM
Yeah…I was hoping for more when he made the comments he did. The whole question should have been slapped down hard.
I was thinking about this video this morning. It seemed Rudy almost threw his back out trying to get his hand up so fast, as did a couple others.
Responses to the asininity of this question should have been swift and forceful. Instead, Schoolmarm was allowed to pontificate.
91Veteran on December 13, 2007 at 1:14 PM
didn’t see any candidate named Maverick …
corona on December 13, 2007 at 1:23 PM
It was an easy trap kind of question. If you show your hand, you agree with what was stated in the question which was crap because Schoolmarm was essentially putting words into the candidates mouths.
Those who hastily raised their hands tasted the words and accepted them.
91Veteran on December 13, 2007 at 1:23 PM
Everyone who has stopped beating their wives, raise your hand…
right2bright on December 13, 2007 at 1:28 PM
That lady reminds me of my third grade teacher.
Thanks for bringing back the BAD memories.
RobCon on December 13, 2007 at 1:41 PM
Yes, if you live in Atlanta, in the middle of the Dixie Desert, and luxuries like Greenland strawberries and Alaskan wine are trucked in to you from the Ocean Terminal in the Port of Memphis, life is going to be fine indeed…
factoid on December 13, 2007 at 2:17 PM
The minute anyone these clowns state Global Warming is caused by humans looses my vote.
Kini on December 13, 2007 at 2:18 PM
a la Betsy Ross
Seriously, when our candidates all face off, the only two that really strike the bulls’ eye are Fred Thompson and Alan Keyes.
That public opinion shapers have done their best to extinguish awareness of Thompson and Keyes simply needs to be recognized and dealt with accordingly.
It is PRIMARY season, and past time for conservative media programs like radio talk shows and bloggers to host an inclusive conservative Republican series of debates. These conservative Republican media formats would represent us, the voters once dubbed the silent majority and would improve their own status by accepting this professional responsibility.
maverick muse on December 13, 2007 at 5:04 PM
To McCain: What if global warming isn’t real and we wreck our economy trying to make it so.
chris00nj on December 13, 2007 at 6:16 PM
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