Open thread: The “Is Hillary using sock puppets?” debate; Video: Obama to Hillary, “I’m looking forward to you advising me”
posted at 1:46 pm on December 13, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Second verse, same as the first. 2 p.m. ET, carried live on Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN, and livestreamed right here at the Des Moines Register website. Even if, like me, you’re inclined to skip it after yesterday’s fiasco, tune in for the first five minutes to see if Nurse Ratched has been replaced and whether Iraq and immigration are still off the table.
While you wait, read this. Another day, another clumsy Clinton mouthpiece.
Update: Dear god, they’re using the same moderator.
Update: By special request of the boss, the line of the day.
Update (Bryan): I have to agree with commenter JVelez, that clip is pwnage for Obama.
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“And whose socks is she using?”
Frozen Tex on December 13, 2007 at 1:49 PM
What is Glenn Greenwald’s take on it?
aunursa on December 13, 2007 at 1:49 PM
Cspan is also streaming it on Cspan 3
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 1:55 PM
Glennn would have to ask someone on the NY Times.
DoctorDentons on December 13, 2007 at 1:55 PM
Hopefully it will be better than yesterday’s.
Spirit of 1776 on December 13, 2007 at 1:55 PM
Right now they a press conference with Pelosi.
Talk about trying to polish brown trout, in progress.
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 1:56 PM
Without Kucinich, there is no true debate.
FREE DENNIS!
Slublog on December 13, 2007 at 1:56 PM
She just noted the energy bill was her #6 item on that 1st 100 hours agenda.
Boy that worked out so well.
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 1:57 PM
Gravel won’t be there, either. Like, where’s the entertainment value then?
amerpundit on December 13, 2007 at 1:57 PM
I need to watch so I can pick my president now that Huck is the GOP choice, rather than Fred.
AZCON on December 13, 2007 at 1:58 PM
she’s baaaaaack!
ctmom on December 13, 2007 at 1:59 PM
Blue line=Liberals, Grey line=Commies
AZCON on December 13, 2007 at 1:59 PM
Wasn’t yesterdays only covered on Fox? Not the other two?
lorien1973 on December 13, 2007 at 2:01 PM
The deserve the same handicap
Lets see if she changes her approach in favor of the dems
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:01 PM
Nurse Ratched lives!
D2Boston on December 13, 2007 at 2:02 PM
Don’t make Hillary mad, or she’ll run off and tell her mom on you.
Nethicus on December 13, 2007 at 2:03 PM
Can’t wait for the (Kraut)hammer to come down on her again tonight.
KelliD on December 13, 2007 at 2:03 PM
Wonder if the are going to exclude the same question area, nope
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:03 PM
Is she nicer already or am I just biased
sunny on December 13, 2007 at 2:04 PM
Debate has started. First question about economy. Obama first and she is giving them 1 minute a piece. Didn’t the Republicans only get 20 or 30 seconds?
LakeRuins on December 13, 2007 at 2:05 PM
Lets count how many times they say “Bush” or “this administration”
abinitioadinfinitum on December 13, 2007 at 2:05 PM
Can’t get the live-stream %$$%%#^^^%@&&&$%^#%
Limerick on December 13, 2007 at 2:05 PM
She’s not just smiling, but beaming! But yes, I am biased!
geckomon on December 13, 2007 at 2:06 PM
Where’s Kucinich? Maybe his flying saucer was late in picking him up.
RINO_Hunter on December 13, 2007 at 2:06 PM
First question on balancing the budget. Obama then Richardson, then Dodd rambling answers. Dodd says cut military budget tax the eviiil rich.
LakeRuins on December 13, 2007 at 2:06 PM
Which country has the non growing economy they are talking about
At full employment, how do you create more job growth
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:07 PM
m o d e r a p t o r
RushBaby on December 13, 2007 at 2:07 PM
Did Biden just suggest cuts for the Nimitz, “Star Wars” and some nuclear-related program? In exchange to fund his health care plan?
amerpundit on December 13, 2007 at 2:07 PM
biden’s going to kill the F22?? But it’s awesome
sunny on December 13, 2007 at 2:07 PM
Obama say Iraq money spent on local stuff—-I thought that was deficit spending guy
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:08 PM
Ha…hilldawg last
sunny on December 13, 2007 at 2:09 PM
Edwards blames corporate power and greed, plugs universal health care
LakeRuins on December 13, 2007 at 2:09 PM
There’s a Nimitz class destroyer? Did Biden mean the Zumwalt?
rw on December 13, 2007 at 2:09 PM
I think Sliky needs his highlights touched-up.
KelliD on December 13, 2007 at 2:09 PM
All these job creation claims as if it has not been happening for 50 months or so
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:09 PM
shield your eyes!
abinitioadinfinitum on December 13, 2007 at 2:09 PM
Fox meter is low for Clinton
geckomon on December 13, 2007 at 2:09 PM
Hillary says to act fiscally responsible. Has she talked to her comrades in congress?
LakeRuins on December 13, 2007 at 2:09 PM
Hill fiscal responsibility…..how may billions spending from the gal who says she has plenty of ideas we can’t afford
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:10 PM
Richardson says 500 billion spent on war. Anyone know where he gets that figure from?
LakeRuins on December 13, 2007 at 2:11 PM
Super Hilldawg, will solve everything at the same time…
voodoo economics?
RINO_Hunter on December 13, 2007 at 2:11 PM
moderator soft balling compared to yesterday
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:11 PM
Apparently “fiscal responsibility” and “$1 million for a Hippie Museum” are one in the same.
Funny how the main cuts in funding Dems want are for national defense and the war.
amerpundit on December 13, 2007 at 2:11 PM
Bash the war and the meter goes off the chart!
abinitioadinfinitum on December 13, 2007 at 2:11 PM
Hussein first, Hildabeast last…..Hummm. Does that mean anything?
mustang1 on December 13, 2007 at 2:12 PM
We’ve spent 5 billion dollars on the war! Oh woe! nice way to characterize less than 4% of our budget.
RushBaby on December 13, 2007 at 2:12 PM
I’m sorry, John, didn’t you work for a hedge fund incorporated off-shore?
amerpundit on December 13, 2007 at 2:12 PM
buh buy Hill…
AZCON on December 13, 2007 at 2:12 PM
Wait till they say the “B” word and see what the meter does then
RINO_Hunter on December 13, 2007 at 2:12 PM
Does Edwards realize that he’s in that “top 1% of the wealthiest Americans”?
Or is he just lying…
I think he’s lying.
benrand on December 13, 2007 at 2:12 PM
They are letting the candidate go on and on and on. What happend to time limits?
KBird on December 13, 2007 at 2:13 PM
Heh. They’d probably have to defund the carrier fleet and sell it for scrap to pay for any of his ideas.
Big S on December 13, 2007 at 2:13 PM
Oh oh iraq withdrawal on the floor
LakeRuins on December 13, 2007 at 2:13 PM
Hill wants to have it both ways,,,I’m shocked
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:13 PM
funny Iraq was off limits yesterday
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:13 PM
I feel like I’m standing on a trap door. One extra vote for clintoon and I fall into
HillHell.RushBaby on December 13, 2007 at 2:13 PM
Eliminate weapons systems!!
AZCON on December 13, 2007 at 2:14 PM
Biden all out in first year
Biden says save 20 billion by not funding weapons for the military, so that the next time we go to war they can once again bitch about inadequate equiptment
LakeRuins on December 13, 2007 at 2:14 PM
This moderator is very different with the Dems, The B____
abinitioadinfinitum on December 13, 2007 at 2:14 PM
Funny, wasn’t Iraq not to be discussed yesterday?
Biden: You could take $20 billion out of the defense budget. You could not build another weapon, you could not build Star Wars…
F**kin idiot.
amerpundit on December 13, 2007 at 2:15 PM
Biden wants to trash the defense budget AGAIN
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:15 PM
“People who don’t need tax cuts…”
Roll that one around in our head for a while.
Incredible.
Obama is a lightweight.
benrand on December 13, 2007 at 2:15 PM
Umm Obama talking about tax relief and the subject is Iraq withdrawal
/scratching head
LakeRuins on December 13, 2007 at 2:15 PM
Spend it all on health care, so we’ll all be nice and healthy when the barbarians breech the gates.
Frozen Tex on December 13, 2007 at 2:16 PM
seems 2 years ago they were complaining we don’t have enough military to fight with…..whistling past the grave yard
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:16 PM
Cayman Islands must be made a crater if you want health care.
AZCON on December 13, 2007 at 2:16 PM
Obama wants to dictate Americans’ spending from the WH.
RushBaby on December 13, 2007 at 2:16 PM
Richardson want to add to size of military. Oh well he definelty won’t get the nod.
LakeRuins on December 13, 2007 at 2:16 PM
Is it just me, or is she not jumping on them with time?
amerpundit on December 13, 2007 at 2:16 PM
Bet immigration will be on the agenda also
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:17 PM
Libs hate the Military according to the meter.
abinitioadinfinitum on December 13, 2007 at 2:17 PM
SOOOOO much better with a smaller field! Mod still boring as hell, though.
aero on December 13, 2007 at 2:17 PM
Dodd our middle class and he jumps right to poverty
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:17 PM
Round 1: The Military Sucks and all of us will gut it.
sunny on December 13, 2007 at 2:17 PM
Who PAYS for the earned income tax credit!
RushBaby on December 13, 2007 at 2:18 PM
Ban the toys!
AZCON on December 13, 2007 at 2:18 PM
They cant even handle congress and he wants to fix China…duh
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:18 PM
Richardson says ban toys from China, not entirely a bad idea but how about putting that manufacturing base back in America?
LakeRuins on December 13, 2007 at 2:19 PM
Ban the food!
RushBaby on December 13, 2007 at 2:19 PM
LOL….sic China on other countries human rights problems!
Limerick on December 13, 2007 at 2:19 PM
Here is an alternative web address that is streaming the debate, but there are still buffering issues with this site as well…
Nineball on December 13, 2007 at 2:19 PM
Dodd making sense?
geckomon on December 13, 2007 at 2:19 PM
Cut spending and China holding our debt is less of a problem.
RushBaby on December 13, 2007 at 2:20 PM
If you don’t like it take them to the WTO…remember you have that tool fools
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:20 PM
http://www.iptv.org/campaign08/
sorry… didn’t get the link button to work right…
Nineball on December 13, 2007 at 2:20 PM
My head’s about to explode…
Cut defense (drastically), no tax cuts (increases), health care, college, and roses for everyone!
RINO_Hunter on December 13, 2007 at 2:20 PM
Interesting. There seems to be a wider split between “Liberal” and “Moderate” responses today than there were between “Conservative” and “Moderate” responses yesterday. They also swap places more–like they have the exact opposite responses to key talking points. Just a generalization after watching all of five minutes of responses.
aero on December 13, 2007 at 2:20 PM
LOL as opposed to a very good girl?
Speakup on December 13, 2007 at 2:20 PM
Too much of budget spent on entitlements?
Hillary says yes and cites Medicare
Hillary wants to do away with Medicare
LakeRuins on December 13, 2007 at 2:20 PM
No wedgie shots yet
RushBaby on December 13, 2007 at 2:20 PM
Yeah, so the focus group hated him.
aero on December 13, 2007 at 2:21 PM
Hillary…socialist medicine one note samba
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:21 PM
Aww yes the good ‘ol bi-partisan comission. That is Hill’s answer.
LakeRuins on December 13, 2007 at 2:21 PM
my sphinkter reacted when Hill said “when I am your President”
AZCON on December 13, 2007 at 2:21 PM
Blue ribbon commission!!!!! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
sunny on December 13, 2007 at 2:21 PM
I think you’re right
RINO_Hunter on December 13, 2007 at 2:22 PM
Moderator definitely going softer on time today than yesterday. Don’t know if that’s a response to criticism or a favorable bias to Dem candidates.
aero on December 13, 2007 at 2:22 PM
Amazing how they are ignoring SCHIP got sunk again
CommentGuy on December 13, 2007 at 2:22 PM
Everybody else keeps addressing Medicare and not entitlements.
Artful dodgers all
LakeRuins on December 13, 2007 at 2:23 PM
Bah this isnt a debate its a democratic infomercial
William Amos on December 13, 2007 at 2:23 PM
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