Comments on: Video: Ex-CIA agent John Kiriakou says waterboarding “saved lives”

By: Tzetzes

Tzetzes — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:49:33 +0000

If waterboarding’s torture, then why are the protesters so eager to undergo it?

(P.S. That’s a Greek name above, Ιωάννης Κυριάκου.)

By: nottakingsides

nottakingsides — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:47:17 +0000

How many times does the MSM need to have someone describe exactly what waterboarding is? Unless you’ve been living in a cave, you’ve heard this explained and demonstrated 1000 times already.

“Yes ahh, could you explain just one more time now, exactly what IS waterboarding? And feel free to take all the time you want to explain and elaborate on this method of torture.”

By: dhimwit

dhimwit — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:40:08 +0000

They keep saying how much they like being martyrs. This is a commendable example of cross cultural sensitivity. What’s the problem?

By: Yoosaion

Yoosaion — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:35:52 +0000

Watrboarding them will be the least of our worries in the future. There is no negotiating with mad men who desire world destruction. Big stick ,baby.

bbz123 on December 12, 2007 at 10:18 AM

“Big stick”. Hmm… I seem to remember another important component to that quote. Can’t exactly recall what it was, though… Eh, probably doesn’t matter.

By: thuja

thuja — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:21:47 +0000

Perhaps Kiriakou is right that we no longer need to waterboard. I doubt it, but he may know more than I do. However, Kiriakou is utterly wrong to think we should keep the video of the waterboarding sessions. Enhanced interrogation works better when there is some mystery to it. The video of the waterboarding would ultimately be released by some leftist loon in Congress and thus reduce the effectiveness of waterboarding. The result being that we’ll have us harsher forms of treatment when confronted with terrorists like al-Queda.

Leftists never think the results of their behavior, and thus we get this typical perverse result that their efforts to end “torture” lead to greater torture. If leftist use leftist logic in chess, any normal twelve year old should be able to beat them in 30 moves.

By: Farmer_Joe

Farmer_Joe — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:08:38 +0000

35 seconds of pure scary.

I’m okay with that.

By: Topsecretk9

Topsecretk9 — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:58:12 +0000

I wonder if the captured jihadist would choose waterboarding over a beheading or a plastic shredder?

By: Topsecretk9

Topsecretk9 — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:55:34 +0000

As I understand it, the “torture” from waterboarding derives from the fact that it’s scary as hell. That’s about it, yeah? Scary? Not dangerous? Isn’t that exactly the kind of “torture” we should be looking for?

Farmer_Joe on December 12, 2007 at 11:46 AM

35 seconds of pure scary.

By: a capella

a capella — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:55:17 +0000

Is waterboarding now a lost “tool”? It sure looks like it. It is not even a new tool. But is most definitely now added to all terrorist training camp class schedules.

I’m quite sure the jihadis have been aware of waterboarding for some time. It appears to be something that would be difficult to overcome by training, because the effect is to trick the body into using it’s own gag reflex to close the trachea. That is an involuntary response which is exacerbated by the water effect, to differentiate from simply being able to hold one’s breath for a long period without the drowning simulation.

By: eeyore

eeyore — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:51:56 +0000

Many of the lefties are pretty much purists on this. I saw one on TV saying that it would have been better if the nipped-in-the-bud plot to blow up all those planes over the Pacific had succeeded than if someone had been tortured to stop it. And these are folks who think “making someone feel bad about themselves” is torture.

By: Farmer_Joe

Farmer_Joe — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:46:19 +0000

As I understand it, the “torture” from waterboarding derives from the fact that it’s scary as hell. That’s about it, yeah? Scary? Not dangerous? Isn’t that exactly the kind of “torture” we should be looking for?

By: profitsbeard

profitsbeard — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:44:57 +0000

Blight-

But those people didn’t know anything worth divulging.

So it’s okay.

By: Blight

Blight — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:36:17 +0000

I’m still a wee bit confused – weren’t the libs using waterboarding as a form of protest just a few weeks back?

By: bridgetown

bridgetown — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:12:01 +0000

Good Job!
Shouldn’t Reid and the like be Celebrating this?

What part of Saved Lives don’t they get??

By: Mazztek

Mazztek — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:51:39 +0000

I listened to that execrable Reid yesterday claiming that eliminating waterboarding is going make our soldiers safer…
drjohn on December 12, 2007 at 10:25 AM

Did he have a straight face as he said that?

“Oh don’t worry about being captured by the great satan. They won’t torture us.”

By: Limerick

Limerick — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:51:34 +0000

Why is it wrong to show burning citizens falling from the 82d floor? Why is it wrong to show Nick Berg being butchered? To save our lunch? Stop lil Johnny from keeping the light on at night? Or is it to take the steel out of our spines and long knives out of our hearts?

Moral highground my fanny. It is considered ‘torture’ because it might give us the information we need to finish this war. A victory by America, for the left, will not be tolerated.

By: ej_pez

ej_pez — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:47:59 +0000

The same libs who find it perfectly okay to abort babies find it awful to waterboard terrorists. Go figure. BobK on December 12, 2007 at 10:43 AM

In their eyes: 1.It's not a baby yet 2. The terrorist is an innocent Freedom Fighter 3. The U.S. is EVIL

By: Matticus Finch

Matticus Finch — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:45:47 +0000

The same libs who find it perfectly okay to abort babies find it awful to waterboard terrorists. Go figure.

BobK on December 12, 2007 at 10:43 AM

Brilliantly succinct.

By: BobK

BobK — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:43:48 +0000

The same libs who find it perfectly okay to abort babies find it awful to waterboard terrorists. Go figure.

By: ej_pez

ej_pez — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:42:10 +0000

Is waterboarding now a lost “tool”? It sure looks like it. It is not even a new tool. But is most definitely now added to all terrorist training camp class schedules.

The glut of waterboarding stories on television last night was nauseating. They will be doing at frat parties by Friday.

By: profitsbeard

profitsbeard — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:41:30 +0000

What saved our lives then will not save our lives now. Why is that, exactly? Because everybody shot their stupid mouths off about an effective method, maybe? Kiriakou should be practicing the art of being cleverly quiet. Not undermining the West along with the diarrhrea-mouthed rest. They are all only aiding the jihadis. Whose torture methods are the real variety. (And who follow only one "convention": destroy the enemy and win.) Spooks like this will be creating more ghosts on our side. And not just 3,000 next time.

By: bbz123

bbz123 — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:39:21 +0000

Waterboarding will be the featured amusement ride at next years San Fran Freak Fest.

By: factoid

factoid — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:36:04 +0000

According to Alcohol Alert, over 16,000 Americans die as a result of drunk driving each year. I propose we introduce mandatory public (perhaps televised) waterboarding for everyone caught driving drunk. We now know that waterboarding is not torture and causes no lasting harm, but the procedure is unpleasant enough that it will be a sufficient deterrent for at least some people. If we manage to deter only 20% of potential drunk drivers, we will have saved more people each year than we lost on 9/11. Sounds like a no-brainer, no?

By: broker1

broker1 — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:35:11 +0000

Yesterday CNN had a poll on their homepage which looks like its gone now that asked if you approve of waterboarding. This morning I saw after close to 50K votes that the approval kept getting bigger. At 17K votes it was 53% and this morning at close to 50K votes it was 57% approved. I wish the narrative that the American People dont approve of these techniques would be extinguished.

By: Mazztek

Mazztek — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:34:32 +0000

Mo Rocca?