Open thread: The Huckabee pile-on debate! Video: Keyes hijacks the debate; Video: GOP refuses a show of hands on global warming; Video: Fred on the NEA
posted at 1:35 pm on December 12, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Live from Iowa, 2 p.m. ET. Last chance for Mitt to turn back the tide and for Fred to remind people he’s still running. What’s the line of attack? Dumond and the clemencies? Huck’s Gitmo reversal? The ‘92 AIDS snafu? The Fair Tax? And does Mitt dare smack him on religion knowing that evangelicals are already flocking to him?
Fox News will be carrying it. If you’re at work, catch the stream at the Des Moines Register’s website.
Update: A sneak preview of the media, circa June 2008, if trends continue: “Huckabee the Caveman.”
Update: Dean Barnett e-mails, “If I were Huckabee, I’d apologize for the Jesus and Satan being brothers remark directly to Mitt, and then walk over and extend his hand. If he does that, he’ll be unbeatable.”
Update: Here’s Keyes, who’s been insufferably pompous and off topic throughout the debate, hijacking the global warming question and setting up Fred for a laugh line.
Update: And here’s Fred taking a stand on dopey show-of-hands questions.
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Fred looks laid back in that video with no tie.
nailinmyeye on December 12, 2007 at 3:19 PM
Alan Keyes represents no normal voices within the GOP. “Wingnut – heal thyself and get off the damn stage….”
AprilOrit on December 12, 2007 at 3:19 PM
moderator is a Paultard.
AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 3:20 PM
Crazy old man. RP
sonnyspats1 on December 12, 2007 at 3:20 PM
“Congressman Paul, how would you balance your plan with the political reality in Washington?”
Reality? What’s that?
amerpundit on December 12, 2007 at 3:21 PM
If they were going to include someone who’s not really running, I wish it had been Newt.
Actually, I wish they had just invited the five top runners and given them more time.
aero on December 12, 2007 at 3:21 PM
No surprise there- he does that in every debate. Well, when he’s not pandering or reciting prepared boilerplate lines that is.
Hollowpoint on December 12, 2007 at 3:21 PM
McCain needs to take a nap.
I bet there’s a couch in the green room he already has dibs on.
unamused on December 12, 2007 at 3:21 PM
Good answer, John. Good answer. “I cannot think of a time”
Spirit of 1776 on December 12, 2007 at 3:21 PM
Who was that talking before Ron Paul? lost the video?
RW Wacko on December 12, 2007 at 3:21 PM
Not a McCain fan, but that compromise question was pure bull%$&#…this chick SUCKS.
MadisonConservative on December 12, 2007 at 3:21 PM
Could the mod say “thank you” in a more disgusted voice?
aero on December 12, 2007 at 3:22 PM
NEW YEAR’S RESOLUTIONS ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE?!
Vizzini on December 12, 2007 at 3:22 PM
News years resolutions!!!?????
Limerick on December 12, 2007 at 3:22 PM
New Year’s Resolutions?
nailinmyeye on December 12, 2007 at 3:22 PM
Newsflash, Johnny-boy, reaching across the aisle is why you are not a serious contender in this race.
Sue on December 12, 2007 at 3:22 PM
McCain is gonna reach across the isle hmm. We get it John we get it. /s
sonnyspats1 on December 12, 2007 at 3:22 PM
Okay, seriously, who chose this bitch? Sorry, but she’s rude, arrogant, impudent, and absolutely unable to hide her contempt for everyone on stage.
MadisonConservative on December 12, 2007 at 3:23 PM
Oh man the Moderator pwned Keyes. I wanna see that on video.
df4jc on December 12, 2007 at 3:23 PM
Wrong Gov!!!
AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 3:23 PM
Paul / Keyes in 2008……………somewhere far far away
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:23 PM
Huck’s new years resolution is it. the nail in the coffin.
RushBaby on December 12, 2007 at 3:23 PM
McCain is going to reach across the table… while we don’t even get a reacharound.
Hollowpoint on December 12, 2007 at 3:24 PM
Tanc calls out Huck.
nailinmyeye on December 12, 2007 at 3:24 PM
WTF Fred?
RW Wacko on December 12, 2007 at 3:24 PM
YEAH Paul America is the problem! Right.
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:24 PM
Her pants are so tight it’s making her FACE red!
unamused on December 12, 2007 at 3:25 PM
Hunter – Buy American goods. NICE
RushBaby on December 12, 2007 at 3:25 PM
No real answers with teeth huh?
Well, it was a stupid question.
nailinmyeye on December 12, 2007 at 3:25 PM
That debate was painful to watch
bnelson44 on December 12, 2007 at 3:25 PM
Well that was a barrel of freakin’ fun.
amerpundit on December 12, 2007 at 3:25 PM
It’s a shame Tanc is always stuttering and stammering like he has a hangover or something. Four or eight years of that after W would be unbearable. Besides it is a symptom of defective a thought process.
sonnyspats1 on December 12, 2007 at 3:25 PM
Craptastic!!!
AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 3:25 PM
Well FRED got to speak 3 times. WTF?
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:25 PM
Who won?
nailinmyeye on December 12, 2007 at 3:25 PM
Dumb closing question–resolution for an opponent?!
aero on December 12, 2007 at 3:25 PM
If it can be said that the debate was not good, the blame rests with the moderator.
jaime on December 12, 2007 at 3:25 PM
1. Fred
2. Huck
3. Rudy
infidel on December 12, 2007 at 3:25 PM
Did he say the enemy at home?
bnelson44 on December 12, 2007 at 3:26 PM
“And… it’s over. Everyone looks pissed.”
Vizzini on December 12, 2007 at 3:26 PM
That moderator was atrocious.
Complete7 on December 12, 2007 at 3:26 PM
Iowa……..looks like your NPR is just like the one in Texas……crappy
Limerick on December 12, 2007 at 3:26 PM
Fred
nailinmyeye on December 12, 2007 at 3:26 PM
1. Fred
2. Mitt
3. Rudy
aero on December 12, 2007 at 3:26 PM
Yes. He added that we’re plenty safe from foreign enemies.
amerpundit on December 12, 2007 at 3:27 PM
MadisonConservative on December 12, 2007 at 3:27 PM
Ha Ha nurse Ratchet.
sonnyspats1 on December 12, 2007 at 3:27 PM
1)Fred
2)Mitt
amish on December 12, 2007 at 3:27 PM
Mitt or Huck didn’t hurt themselves. Fred did really well. Rudy kind of disappeared. Keyes is a certified nut.
Complete7 on December 12, 2007 at 3:27 PM
Asked about the biggest obstacle to improving education in America, Thompson says, “The National Education Association. The NEA.”
Yea, Fred won.
bnelson44 on December 12, 2007 at 3:27 PM
Yes he did.
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:27 PM
the Fox News allstars are retards.
amish on December 12, 2007 at 3:27 PM
yes, code for his followers that the “real” enemy is the govt. Cue the bloody revolution they lust for.
jp on December 12, 2007 at 3:28 PM
At least when he spoke, he spoke very well and convincing.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on December 12, 2007 at 3:28 PM
The MODERATOR was terrible.
Betcha she ‘improves’ for the Dems.
shooter on December 12, 2007 at 3:28 PM
Mort thinks Huck won?
aero on December 12, 2007 at 3:28 PM
As a Fredhead…..
Finally
1.Fred
2.Mitt
Worst, of the front runners, Rudy.
Limerick on December 12, 2007 at 3:29 PM
It was indeed.
Dude. Are you familar with origin of the word demonstrate? Might want to rethink your assertion.
Spirit of 1776 on December 12, 2007 at 3:29 PM
1. Fred
2. Tanc
3. Mitt
AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 3:29 PM
on PBS awhile back he said we could defend the country with just a few missles and a submarine.
jp on December 12, 2007 at 3:29 PM
Awful, awful, awful moderator. Embarrassingly bad.
I liked Fred and Rudy and Huck (but he needs to explain some of his answers more fully). Everyone else was forgettable (Mitt, Hunter, Tancredo) or crazy (Paul and Keyes). If I had to pick one, then Fred because he pretty much made it clear early that the moderator was an idiot and he wasn’t going to put up with it.
Darin on December 12, 2007 at 3:29 PM
Anyone who says Mitt didn’t can’t be trusted as analyst!
terryannonline on December 12, 2007 at 3:29 PM
I think this moderator took lessons from The Weakest Link host Anne Robinson. I’m surprised that at some point she didn’t tell Paul or Keyes, “I’m sorry, you ARE the Weakest Link!”
Catseye on December 12, 2007 at 3:30 PM
Wow. Romney killed in the focus group.
Vizzini on December 12, 2007 at 3:30 PM
Mitt won the debate the crowd says, OOOOHHHHH NOOOO
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:30 PM
terryannonline on December 12, 2007 at 3:29 PM
(cleaning up the beer from my keyboard)
Limerick on December 12, 2007 at 3:31 PM
Is the poll out yet? (snark off)
Limerick on December 12, 2007 at 3:32 PM
Go FRED
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:32 PM
Fred get’s Huck and Rudy’s folks.
Mitt does a little better.
AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 3:33 PM
So Romney wants to rein in entitlements AND get everyone health insurance.
Um.
Ooooooooook.
EduardoOTI on December 12, 2007 at 3:33 PM
Apparently you haven’t been paying attention to the dollar vs the Canadian dollar, the Euro, gold, etc.
Mark Jaquith on December 12, 2007 at 3:33 PM
Putting on my average voter hat:
1) Huck
2) Fred
3) Mitt
My opinion:
1) Mitt
2) Fred (looked old and tired to me)
3) Tanc
I thought Rudy was horrible. Thought Huck “performed” well, but I hate him as a candidate and hated many of his answers.
RW Wacko on December 12, 2007 at 3:33 PM
Nah, that’s nothing compared to one of his pre-canned answers you can view at the website to the question, (roughly paraphrased) “If you can’t be president, who else — living — do you think is qualified to be president?”
Most of the other candidates at least tried to be gracious, he spewed the answer that he wouldn’t suggest any of his opponents were worthy. Nobody but him, man — God’s annointed narcissist. Hallelujah!
Nichevo on December 12, 2007 at 3:34 PM
Moderator get’s completely trashed!!!
AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 3:35 PM
Whoa Huckabomb?! lol
sonnyspats1 on December 12, 2007 at 3:36 PM
I thought Huck was a cornservative.
sonnyspats1 on December 12, 2007 at 3:36 PM
I’m not watching Fox, what does “killed” mean?
bnelson44 on December 12, 2007 at 3:36 PM
One word to describe the moderator?
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:36 PM
Unqualified.
Sue on December 12, 2007 at 3:37 PM
scored BIG :(
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:37 PM
Focus group:
1 Mitt
2 Fred
3 nobody
AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 3:38 PM
Focus groupie: “Huckabomb”
Ouch!
Is the implosion beginning? Please say it’s so!
aero on December 12, 2007 at 3:38 PM
Single
sunny on December 12, 2007 at 3:38 PM
That dad gum Huck shure seems quick and slick. I guess Arkansas will do that to you.
saiga on December 12, 2007 at 3:39 PM
MSNBC is laying platitudes on Huckabee.
They are propping him up so they can knock him down in the general.
unamused on December 12, 2007 at 3:39 PM
In my objective opinion if these are the guys we have to choose from, we better get mentally prepared for big time spanking!
terryannonline on December 12, 2007 at 3:39 PM
25 some odd people, 5 went in supporting Mitt, like 22 came out thinking he won the debate and thought he was electable.
Vizzini on December 12, 2007 at 3:39 PM
One word?….how about a couple…
NEA member
Limerick on December 12, 2007 at 3:39 PM
spinster
AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 3:39 PM
That works for me.
Sue on December 12, 2007 at 3:40 PM
So lame how the chat at the debate site was dominated by the Paulnuts. Love all the people saying “Wow! I didn’t know what the big deal was all about before, but now I really know why everyone is supporting Ron Paul after seeing him in this debate!” Barf.
RW Wacko on December 12, 2007 at 3:40 PM
Interesting. So maybe Mitt did himself some real good in the debate. Anyo of the 22 change their vote?
bnelson44 on December 12, 2007 at 3:41 PM
Mort’s propping Huck, too.
AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 3:41 PM
Romney’s debate performance was magnificent and anyone who disagrees can’t be trusted as an analyst.
jaime on December 12, 2007 at 3:41 PM
Shame on you young lady, don’t throw in the towel. :)
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:41 PM
Yeah, I pick stay my lazy self at home blogging.
terryannonline on December 12, 2007 at 3:41 PM
Liberal.
jaime on December 12, 2007 at 3:43 PM
bnelson44 on December 12, 2007 at 3:41 PM
They didn’t ask that question, but in similar numbers they felt like Huckabee was not Presidential and didn’t bring all the conservatives together. So maybe no vote change in particular, but certainly Mitt up and Huck down in the candidate if-not-my-first,-then-who? hierarchy (which of particular importance in a caucus state.)
Vizzini on December 12, 2007 at 3:44 PM
Winner!
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:44 PM
I won’t type it on this website.
MadisonConservative on December 12, 2007 at 3:44 PM
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