Open thread: The Huckabee pile-on debate! Video: Keyes hijacks the debate; Video: GOP refuses a show of hands on global warming; Video: Fred on the NEA
posted at 1:35 pm on December 12, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Live from Iowa, 2 p.m. ET. Last chance for Mitt to turn back the tide and for Fred to remind people he’s still running. What’s the line of attack? Dumond and the clemencies? Huck’s Gitmo reversal? The ‘92 AIDS snafu? The Fair Tax? And does Mitt dare smack him on religion knowing that evangelicals are already flocking to him?
Fox News will be carrying it. If you’re at work, catch the stream at the Des Moines Register’s website.
Update: A sneak preview of the media, circa June 2008, if trends continue: “Huckabee the Caveman.”
Update: Dean Barnett e-mails, “If I were Huckabee, I’d apologize for the Jesus and Satan being brothers remark directly to Mitt, and then walk over and extend his hand. If he does that, he’ll be unbeatable.”
Update: Here’s Keyes, who’s been insufferably pompous and off topic throughout the debate, hijacking the global warming question and setting up Fred for a laugh line.
Update: And here’s Fred taking a stand on dopey show-of-hands questions.
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Frankly, none of them are getting a lot of time. I do agree he’s had some of the least, however.
amerpundit on December 12, 2007 at 2:56 PM
LOL…Mitt just gave Fred 5000 votes.
Limerick on December 12, 2007 at 2:56 PM
Keyes you buffoon, get off the stage.
AprilOrit on December 12, 2007 at 2:56 PM
Ha, Rudy just went off the conservative chart with that response.
Vizzini on December 12, 2007 at 2:57 PM
Huck’s not biting. He’s playing it really low-key today.
aero on December 12, 2007 at 2:57 PM
Fred may have easily locked up at least 3rd place in the caucus.
yo on December 12, 2007 at 2:57 PM
I love Keyes; but the clip above my Allah makes RP look veritably normal in comparison. What was that tirade all about?
lorien1973 on December 12, 2007 at 2:57 PM
I’m starting to think that Alan Keyes got a few thousand from Ron Paul so he could enter the race and thereby make him look less crazy.
Darin on December 12, 2007 at 2:58 PM
Yep, you can end the war by surrendering. Thanks Paul.
bnelson44 on December 12, 2007 at 2:58 PM
WHY? WHY? WHY? is Paul getting so much time? Damn
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 2:58 PM
Paul: I’ll do my best to surrender.
“Bring the troops home”. “We wouldn’t threaten Iran”. “We wouldn’t threaten pre-emptive war”.
amerpundit on December 12, 2007 at 2:58 PM
Brat on December 12, 2007 at 2:59 PM
Mitt with a zinger!!!!eleventyone1!1
unamused on December 12, 2007 at 2:59 PM
Also note how Paul takes the NIE at face-value. He wants to discuss allies, etc? How about the fact our allies (Britain & Israel) think our new NIE is full of cr@p?
amerpundit on December 12, 2007 at 2:59 PM
Mitt just hit a sour note trying to dis Fred.
yo on December 12, 2007 at 3:00 PM
Fred: Go over Congress’s heads? Zing!
aero on December 12, 2007 at 3:00 PM
Fred has all the right answers, but why oh why isn’t he running.
bnelson44 on December 12, 2007 at 3:00 PM
Mitt just went off the chart with moderates.
Vizzini on December 12, 2007 at 3:00 PM
Interesting. It’s the “moderates” who are responding better to Huckabee.
aero on December 12, 2007 at 3:01 PM
Huck, the Left and Right have always fought.
amerpundit on December 12, 2007 at 3:01 PM
Can someone please tell me why Huckabee is getting any support? I mean, has the truth just not shown itself in the polls yet? Or is this some kind of puffery by the media, trying to derail Mitt in Iowa?
I used to not believe in crap like that, but after the Texas ANG memo crap in 2004, I’ll consider anything.
TheGoblinKing on December 12, 2007 at 3:01 PM
It seems that everyone else on the stage is running against one another for the nomination, but Huck is running as if he already has the nomination and is getting ready to be president. It’s a striking difference.
Darin on December 12, 2007 at 3:01 PM
Someone check McCain for a pulse.
yo on December 12, 2007 at 3:01 PM
Well, if Huck was going to apologize to Mitt that would have been the time. He didn’t
bnelson44 on December 12, 2007 at 3:01 PM
McCain is coming across as older and as having less fire-in-the-belly than Fred this time. No energy today.
aero on December 12, 2007 at 3:01 PM
Uniter not a divider!!!! Sorry Huck….Bush tried to say that.
Limerick on December 12, 2007 at 3:02 PM
Seconded. I just wish the guy was out there more…and if he’s not on the ballot in DE, what does that mean?
nailinmyeye on December 12, 2007 at 3:02 PM
Keyes sounds like Eddie Murphy from Beverly Hills Cop when he was making fun of the other black cop:
“I’m not gonna fall for no bannana in the tail pipe.”
unamused on December 12, 2007 at 3:02 PM
Was he the one shouting from the water? :)
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:02 PM
Keyes, shut up and let the real candidates talk!
aero on December 12, 2007 at 3:03 PM
Not much, DE is a tiny state that will probably go to Rudy.
bnelson44 on December 12, 2007 at 3:03 PM
Don’t start felating Iowa just yet, Mitt….
unamused on December 12, 2007 at 3:03 PM
WOW just a bunch of old white guys.
sonnyspats1 on December 12, 2007 at 3:03 PM
Keyes is such a wackjob, why is he disgracing the GOP by being up on that stage?????
He is the type of feverswamp wingnut you keep tucked away in the basement…especially if you want to win elections/votes with the moderate general populace.
AprilOrit on December 12, 2007 at 3:04 PM
Oh…my…Keyes gets to talk about whatever he wants.
amerpundit on December 12, 2007 at 3:04 PM
Keyes sounds like a repressed homo. Sorry. But he does.
Fred looks HORRIBLE. I like the words that be coming out of his mouth, but he looks old and lethargic. My God, someone give him an adreneline shot or something.
RW Wacko on December 12, 2007 at 3:04 PM
Mitt’s 30 seconds just downright blew.
yo on December 12, 2007 at 3:04 PM
Romney: Blah, blah, blah, boilerplate, blah, blah, suck-up, blah, blah, blah.
aero on December 12, 2007 at 3:04 PM
Over your head to the American people. Yes Go FRED
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:04 PM
9/11
9/11
9/11
9/11
9/11
unamused on December 12, 2007 at 3:05 PM
Listening to Keyes, I’m shocked that he lost to Obama in IL.
/s
yo on December 12, 2007 at 3:05 PM
And one crazy black guy. How can you forget him?!
aero on December 12, 2007 at 3:05 PM
Given that Delaware is RINO country and Fred wouldn’t likely win there anyways- it means approximately nothing. It’s not like they have a lot of delegates anyhow.
Hollowpoint on December 12, 2007 at 3:05 PM
There are nine photos of the Huckster on Hot Air at this moment. Is that a record for any single person, or has Hillary got it beat?
Quisp on December 12, 2007 at 3:05 PM
Mitt is nailing the talking points. I hate that crap. Talk from the heart, Mitt. Huck nails that crap, which is why people are gravitating to him. I like Mitt and hate Huck, but Huck is a great speaker.
RW Wacko on December 12, 2007 at 3:06 PM
Fred / Hunter 2008
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:06 PM
I’m not watching–I’m just listening. I wonder if that makes a difference. From this viewpoint, Fred is doing very well.
Darin on December 12, 2007 at 3:06 PM
I believe one fella come from Arkansas
Was he the one shouting from the water? :)
No, I think he was the guy trying to walk on it.
amish on December 12, 2007 at 3:06 PM
Fred didn’t get to pitch!!! WTF!!
AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 3:06 PM
Keyes sounds like a crazy dictator, I can only imagine what Rudy, the real new Yorker, is really thinking about that one….
AprilOrit on December 12, 2007 at 3:06 PM
And one crazy black guy. How can you forget him?!
aero on December 12, 2007 at 3:05 PM
I don’t see any black guy.
sonnyspats1 on December 12, 2007 at 3:06 PM
Ahhhh, this is a PBS gig.
That explains Keyes.
unamused on December 12, 2007 at 3:07 PM
The moderator really needs to find a pant suit that fits in the back. I mean, she’s on national tv, after all.
No wonder she’s grumpy. That constant polyester wedgie would grate on my nerves, as well.
yo on December 12, 2007 at 3:07 PM
No, the one from Arkansas walks on water?
Brat on December 12, 2007 at 3:07 PM
Fred / Hunter 2008
df4jc on December 12, 2007 at 3:07 PM
Tancredo/Keyes 2008!
Vizzini on December 12, 2007 at 3:07 PM
Unless you mean Ron Paul?
sonnyspats1 on December 12, 2007 at 3:07 PM
Huck just blew it. Big time. His first priority is to unite the nation, so we can do what is best for it? I was under the impression that different ideas about what’s best for the nation is the source of the disunity. Job one is fighting terrorists. Job two is closing the border.
I didn’t realize how much I missed Keyes.
thebriand on December 12, 2007 at 3:07 PM
Newsflash to Paul: The internet is full of propaganda, misinformation and lies……..No wonder you’ve turned into such a whack job. You are stupid enough to believe it.
jp on December 12, 2007 at 3:08 PM
What does the Internet have to do with Character and Leadership?
bnelson44 on December 12, 2007 at 3:08 PM
She is blackballing him since he dised her about the show of hands.
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:08 PM
Paul – “The correct set of answers is out there…”
I think I’ve heard something like that before.
nailinmyeye on December 12, 2007 at 3:08 PM
Rudy has the deer in the headlights look
RW Wacko on December 12, 2007 at 3:08 PM
Paul: “The question is delightful”. “I get a lot of information from the internet”.
I’m sure you do.
amerpundit on December 12, 2007 at 3:08 PM
Rudy gets a shiv.
Limerick on December 12, 2007 at 3:09 PM
no hillary plant?
terryannonline on December 12, 2007 at 3:09 PM
Lib Hit job on Rudy.
AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 3:09 PM
LMAO :)
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:09 PM
And now it’s time for another statement from Reverend Keyes.
amerpundit on December 12, 2007 at 3:10 PM
“Mr. Keyes, how would you provide an open administration?”
“Old MacDonald had a farm. Eeee aye, eeee aye, oh. On that farm there was a sovereign nation. Eee aye, eee aye, oh.”
unamused on December 12, 2007 at 3:10 PM
Keyes hits Romney!
The debate escalates….zzzzzzzz.
nailinmyeye on December 12, 2007 at 3:10 PM
Me too- I think it was on the “X-Files”, which would be very fitting considering that Paul is evidence of alien life on Earth… unfortunately he’s not evidence of intelligent alien life on Earth.
Hollowpoint on December 12, 2007 at 3:10 PM
Paul/Keyes 2008!!!!!!!!
Oy.
infidel on December 12, 2007 at 3:10 PM
Mitt takes the bait!
AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 3:10 PM
yeah man Keyes gets three phone calls a week. He’s on a roll now buddy.
sonnyspats1 on December 12, 2007 at 3:10 PM
Keyes just ripped Romney a new one. Ouch. Bet they work hard to get him off the stage in any future debate.
RW Wacko on December 12, 2007 at 3:11 PM
I remember when I used to like Keyes.
Now he sounds more pious than Huck. Ugh.
MadisonConservative on December 12, 2007 at 3:11 PM
Nice.
nailinmyeye on December 12, 2007 at 3:11 PM
I can only imagaine the converstaion at the restauarant table with Rudy, Trump, Barbara Walters, Cindy Adams and the rest of their NYC cliche – about Alan Keyes.
I can hear Rudy describing him and Trump commenting that he should be lock away in a durable and strong straitjacket for safe keeping.
AprilOrit on December 12, 2007 at 3:11 PM
Fred rebuilds the CIA!
AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 3:12 PM
OMG, McCain looks like he’s in rehab in that vid!
unamused on December 12, 2007 at 3:13 PM
Wrong on the plant…KEYES is the plant.
shooter on December 12, 2007 at 3:14 PM
What in the world is Huckabee talking about?
Vizzini on December 12, 2007 at 3:15 PM
Huck=Free everything to everybody!!
AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 3:15 PM
%$#$#$%%$#@##$$# lost the feed
Limerick on December 12, 2007 at 3:15 PM
She is so smug in asking the religion question.
I hope her wedgie chafes.
unamused on December 12, 2007 at 3:15 PM
Where exactly does Huckabee stand on health care?
amerpundit on December 12, 2007 at 3:16 PM
Alan Keyes…..
When did Bill Cosby and Kermit the Frog have a lovechild?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on December 12, 2007 at 3:16 PM
Romney ducks the question!
RW Wacko on December 12, 2007 at 3:16 PM
LOL
abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 3:16 PM
Ha, good one Duncan.
Vizzini on December 12, 2007 at 3:16 PM
It’s so tight it’s making her cheeks red….
sunny on December 12, 2007 at 3:16 PM
This is the worst debate I’ve seen barring a couple old VP debates. This moderator is terrible and the candidates are uninspiring consequently.
Spirit of 1776 on December 12, 2007 at 3:17 PM
I think Hunter has worked China into every single answer so far.
aero on December 12, 2007 at 3:17 PM
Fred,
“The biggest block to improving the education system is the NEA.”
Heh. Sweet. Frickin’ sweet.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on December 12, 2007 at 3:17 PM
Hunter is cool. he showed up in DC at the Gathering of Eagles. The talk he gave was stirring.
sonnyspats1 on December 12, 2007 at 3:18 PM
Moderator SUCKS.
MadisonConservative on December 12, 2007 at 3:18 PM
Yeah, I don’t get Huck’s health care statement. All of that’s great, but there aren’t exactly a line of poor people dying in the street. Aren’t most of the poor getting free health care through non-governmental solutions right now?
Darin on December 12, 2007 at 3:18 PM
She’s still trying to avoid giving Fred time.
aero on December 12, 2007 at 3:18 PM
Fred had the best vid IMHO
AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 3:19 PM
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