Nine Democrats vote no on House resolution marking Christmas

posted at 7:12 pm on December 12, 2007 by Allahpundit

And all but one voted yes on the Ramadan resolution in October, as did nine other Democrats who voted “present” on this one. (Barbara Lee missed the earlier vote.) The boss blogged this much earlier but after knocking Tanc for voting “present” on the Ramadan resolution — which no House member voted against, do note — I’d be remiss if I didn’t flag this at HA. Any explanations here other than simple bigotry? If so, Steve King says he’d love to hear them, as would I. The left sometimes seem to have it in its mind that the Establishment Clause contains some sort of equal protection component that makes it okay to endorse minority religions, however symbolically, while scrupulously resisting the faith of the majority lest it burst into theocracy. No such doctrine, boys. The most principled guy in all of this is Mike Pence, who voted “present” on both, followed by those who voted yes to both, followed in turn by those who voted “present” on one but yes on the other (a group which includes Steve King), followed at last by our nine Democratic friends here, the only members in all the bunch who clearly preferred one religion to another.

And yes, of course, the atheist who thinks Bush gets his rocks off by blowing the heads off Iraqi kids is among the nine hypocrites. What a filthy little fraud.

Tanc, who had business elsewhere today and missed the vote, defended his “present” vote on the Ramadan resolution thusly: “This resolution is an example of the degree to which political correctness has captured the political and media elite in this country. I am not opposed to commending any religion for their faith. The problem is that any attempt to do so for Jews or Christians is immediately condemned as ‘breaching’ the non-existent line between Church and State by the same elite.” Exit question: In light of today’s landslide, will he be voting yes on the Ramadan resolution next year?


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Bah Humbug!

AZCON on December 12, 2007 at 7:21 PM

This deserves the red meat picture if ever a post deserved it.

O’Reilly gets a lot of flak for his “war on Christmas” shtick, but he (and King) have a point. Certain far left people absolutely despise Christianity and every display of it, most especially Christmas.

Nessuno on December 12, 2007 at 7:21 PM

What about the budget?
Fox news had a video clip where Pelosi said “there is no money in the budget for the troops in Iraq”.

Really? They’re gonna cut off the funds for the troops in the field?

And we’re gonna have a discussion about whether or not congress will pass a resolution to celebrate Christmas?

I guess someone has to feed the news cameras while the arguments over the budget are going on in the back rooms, eh?

rockhauler on December 12, 2007 at 7:23 PM

Exit question: In light of today’s landslide, will he be voting yes on the Ramadan resolution next year?

I hope not. Ramadan and Christmas are 2 different things. Ramada isn’t a federal holiday.

RightWinged on December 12, 2007 at 7:24 PM

The left sometimes seem to have it in its mind that the Establishment Clause contains some sort of equal protection component that makes it okay to endorse minority religions, however symbolically, while scrupulously resisting the faith of the majority lest it burst into theocracy. No such doctrine, boys.

As always, I appreciate your spot on reporting AP.

nailinmyeye on December 12, 2007 at 7:31 PM

Given that the decorations, sales, advertising, and television shows for Christmas start the day after Thanksgiving do we really need Congress’s help to remember Christmas? Isn’t there a war or a potential recession they could be working on?

With the congressional approval rating as low as it is, must be their attempt to latch onto Santa’s goodwill.

dedalus on December 12, 2007 at 7:35 PM

they know that voting no on the ramadan resolution, might mean a head choppin; right mr o’donnell?

lorien1973 on December 12, 2007 at 7:44 PM

…followed at last by our nine Democratic friends here, the only members in all the bunch who clearly preferred one religion to another.

And I just happen to have that moron Bobby Scott representing my district here in Virginia.

I think I’ll call his office in the morning and see why he voted no.

BacaDog on December 12, 2007 at 7:44 PM

dedalus on December 12, 2007 at 7:35 PM

But then also vote against resolutions recognizing minority religions.

amerpundit on December 12, 2007 at 7:48 PM

something is very very wrong when political correctness demands an honoring of two religions which are not part of our nations founding and also demands the dishonoring of the religion that is an integral part of the freedom that has given the hateful b*stards a place to hypocritically call home.

Speakup on December 12, 2007 at 7:49 PM

Well, Ike bought the farm today, so maybe some of these folks are all verklempt. I know I am.

Sincerely,

Tina

Mike D. on December 12, 2007 at 7:51 PM

My rep., Jim McDermott, voted Yea on Ramadan and Nea on Christmas… what are the odds. I calculated them at 3-5.

AndrewsDad on December 12, 2007 at 7:58 PM

It really is stupid for Congress to be working on something like this considering they haven’t been able to pass a budget.

That being said, how can these idiots disagree with the idea that Christmas is an important holiday for Christians? It’s hardly a controversial statement. Proof (as if any more is needed) that the Congressional Democrats are the most vile, treasonous, creatures on the planet. I hope they all get coal in their stockings.

highhopes on December 12, 2007 at 8:03 PM

don’t they have better things to do? The ramadan thing is bs but really they shouldn’t need to vote on either.

libertytexan on December 12, 2007 at 8:16 PM

Ironically, when people wish each other “Happy Holidays” they are giving a Christian greeting whether they know it or not. The word holiday is a modern expression/evolution of the phrase “holy day”. The expression “Goodbye” is a modern expression of “God be with you”.

aengus on December 12, 2007 at 8:25 PM

don’t they have better things to do?

Gramscians have no higher purpose than tearing down everything that is good.

aengus on December 12, 2007 at 8:27 PM

Ironically, when people wish each other “Happy Holidays” they are giving a Christian greeting whether they know it or not. The word holiday is a modern expression/evolution of the phrase “holy day”. The expression “Goodbye” is a modern expression of “God be with you”.

aengus on December 12, 2007 at 8:25 PM

I didn’t know either of those things! Thanks

Ugly on December 12, 2007 at 8:56 PM

If it effects retail sales, they’ll pay here and now.
The way it stands now, they’ll pay elsewhere for eternity.

Hening on December 12, 2007 at 9:05 PM

Maybe if Christians explained that most of what these people object to is pagan in its roots, they might leave Christmas alone./s
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Christ was most likely born in the spring Luke 2:8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. –it would be far to cold for shepherds to be in the field during December, this is just one point for this argument
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December 25th was the pagan celebration of the winter solstice –also
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December 25th was considered to be the birth date of the Iranian mystery god Mithra
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Tammuz, the son of Nimrod, was thought to have died during the winter solstice, and was memorialized by burning a log in the fireplace. (The Chaldean word for infant is yule. This is the origin of the yule log.) His rebirth was celebrated by replacing the log with a trimmed tree the next morning.
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The Roman god Saturn’s celebration fell on December 17. Romans would decorate their homes in evergreen boughs and candles, and would give gifts to one another. more

abinitioadinfinitum on December 12, 2007 at 9:05 PM

If the Republicans had any guts, they’d be beating the Dems over the head with this.

Iblis on December 12, 2007 at 9:36 PM

Don’t worry. Christians won’t be “outraged.”

drjohn on December 12, 2007 at 9:37 PM

But then also vote against resolutions recognizing minority religions.

amerpundit on December 12, 2007 at 7:48 PM

Yup. They are a legislative body, not our national conscience. They should work on policing earmarks. We have churches and families who can handle the holiday celebrations.

dedalus on December 12, 2007 at 9:58 PM

manufactured controversy of the day!

crr6 on December 12, 2007 at 10:29 PM

And I just happen to have that moron Bobby Scott representing my district here in Virginia.

I think I’ll call his office in the morning and see why he voted no.

BacaDog on December 12, 2007 at 7:44 PM

As a fellow Virginia resident, we just elected Wittman to replace Ms. Davis, wouldn’t Mr. Scott’s constitunecy(sp) be interested in knowing he voted to honor Ramadan but not Christmas. Doesn’t he come up for re-election soon? This disparity in the honoring of one faith above another (the majority faith in his district) should be of prime interest to the voters who elected him.

nwsseeker on December 12, 2007 at 10:41 PM

They ought to post these votes in the voting booth on election day so people know how their guy voted and THROW ‘DA BUMS OUT!!!!! It’s the only recourse we got!

countywolf on December 12, 2007 at 10:42 PM

I’m sorry…

Yes these folks are idiots…

But why is Congress wasting time on this? Why is the media wasting time on this?

More importantly, why are we wasting time on this?

Fence aint built.
Troops are no funded…
Government isn’t funded…
Pork still flowin…
Illegals still here…
Economy going down…
Dollar in the crapper….
President is messing with the economy and private contracts…
Congress is wasting time about interagation tapes, while not helping fight the bad guys…

Need I go on?

Romeo13 on December 12, 2007 at 10:58 PM

Romeo13 on December 12, 2007 at 10:58 PM

What he said.

Limerick on December 12, 2007 at 11:35 PM

Sometimes, AllahP, you really piss me off. Then, and for the most part, there are times when you are magnificent. Keep swingin’ and fightin’ the good fight brother.

tomk59 on December 12, 2007 at 11:42 PM

Romeo13 on December 12, 2007 at 10:58 PM

Some of that they’re doing on purpose, some is happening out of neglect and the rest (the fence), they ain’t gonna do.

I hope its not just too tough or require too much generosity to give the same respect to Christmas they gave to Ramadan and Diwali.

Given their current state of passive resist, its the least they can do.

Speakup on December 13, 2007 at 12:21 AM

Next up, Kwanzaa.

geckomon on December 13, 2007 at 12:55 AM

Both extreme leftists and culture warriors have ruined Christmas. End it already!

mram on December 13, 2007 at 1:02 AM

Attention Dhimmicrats: Keep Digging.

PLEASE Keep Digging!

Teddy on December 13, 2007 at 3:46 AM

Self-loathing dhimmi liberals. I love it. I see several Kwanzaa types and more than one Hanukkah-ite. I wonder how many of these knuckleheads are Christian? More than one, I’ll bet.

Jaibones on December 13, 2007 at 8:11 AM

McDermott will go to any lengths to satisfy and pander to his constituents in the Peoples Republic of King County and the greater Seattle area. The bum is despicable and has no redeeming value.

rplat on December 13, 2007 at 8:14 AM

I hope not. Ramadan and Christmas are 2 different things. Ramada isn’t a federal holiday.

I thought Ramada was a soup. Why is congress voting on soup? Are they voting on what’s for lunch? And what does this have to do with Christmas? I’m confused.

Rod on December 13, 2007 at 8:25 AM

Those that voted no should not be allowed to enjoy Christmas recess. They must be sentenced to detention, and required to stay on the House Floor and talk among themselves why they are so out of touch with reality.

By New Year we may have 9 new Republicans.

MSGTAS on December 13, 2007 at 9:17 AM

Maybe if Christians explained that most of what these people object to is pagan in its roots, they might leave Christmas alone./s

It doesn’t have pagan roots in the spiritual sense. Nobody knows when Christ was born but commemorating it is December makes sense.

“In the Middle Ages spring did not primarily mean swallows and wild flowers. It meant green vegetables, milk and fresh meat after several months of living on salt pork in smoky windowless huts. The spring songs were gay Do nothing but eat and make good cheer, And thank Heaven for the merry year When flesh is cheap and females dear, And lusty lads roam here and there So merrily, And ever among so merrily! because there was something to be so gay about. The winter was over, that was the great thing. Christmas itself, a pre-Christian festival, probably started because there had to be an occasional outburst of overeating and drinking to make a break in the unbearable northern winter.”

aengus on December 13, 2007 at 9:49 AM

Granted, we have much more pressing matters, but it is a fascinating look at those who really are hell bent on driving Christianity out of America. I’m a Christian, I don’t wear it on my sleeve, I don’t expect others to attend my church or adopt my way of thinking. Worship whomever you wish, but have the common decency to back the f%^k off of Christmas and Christmas trees, and fat guys in red suits etc.
It’s pretty obvious this argument is no longer about seperation of church and state. It’s about an attack on a culture that has been established since this country was founded.

commonsensehoosier on December 13, 2007 at 10:15 AM

Ironically, when people wish each other “Happy Holidays” they are giving a Christian greeting whether they know it or not. The word holiday is a modern expression/evolution of the phrase “holy day”. The expression “Goodbye” is a modern expression of “God be with you”.

aengus on December 12, 2007 at 8:25 PM

It’s the same when people turn Christmas into Xmas, since X is a symbol for the word Christ.

Both extreme leftists and culture warriors have ruined Christmas. End it already!

mram on December 13, 2007 at 1:02 AM

No one can ruin Christmas. It’s one of the most inclusive holidays. It doesn’t matter if you believe belief in Christ is as simple as belief in Santa Claus, you can still have a tree and exchange gifts.

You can keep it completely secular with a focus solely on trees, presents and Santa, or you can make it a holy tradition, honoring the most amazing gift humanity has ever received.

Either way, the holiday itself brings a warmth to a cold season. It’s an incredible time, and it’s the closest this country comes to actually celebrating something special in unity.

Esthier on December 13, 2007 at 10:31 AM

I hope not. Ramadan and Christmas are 2 different things. Ramada isn’t a federal holiday.

Not yet, anyway.

This is absolutely INSANE.

crazy_legs on December 13, 2007 at 10:54 AM

Only nine?

infidel4life on December 13, 2007 at 3:45 PM