Mark Cuban advocates higher taxes on the super-rich, gets schooled by his own commenters
posted at 3:27 pm on December 12, 2007 by Bryan
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Heh. Blog maverick, indeed.
I would be perfectly fine paying a higher percentage of income, both in federal income taxes and as part of a consumption tax on luxury items. If Warren [Buffet] wants to buy or build a yacht for a hundred million dollars. Nail him with a 10pct federal tax surcharge. If I want to buy a Gulfstream Jet for 40mm dollars. Nail me with a 10pct federal surcharge above and beyond current taxes. There are plenty of items, from jewelry to 100k plus cars to 10mm dollars or more first, 2nd and 3rd homes. If you can afford to buy these kind of goodies, and choose to, cough it up.
Will i avoid the Gulfstream or Warren the Yacht because of the surcharge ? Will I drive a used car instead of my new expensive Lexus Hybrid. Nope. You are rich when you know that money is no good unless you can enjoy it. No one on the Forbes 400 or near by is going to let a 10 percent more increase in the cost of a luxury item get in the way of enjoying the lives they have always dreamed of.
Fine. Pay more then. Or finance more quality documentaries for HDNet. Email me, Mr. Cuban. I have a few ideas. But don’t pass off bad economics as altruism. The very first commenter on the post teaches Cuban a little history.
1. You say “Will i avoid the Gulfstream or Warren the Yacht because of the surcharge?” History says that you will avoid buying it in the US. Just such a tax was placed on yachts in 1990, and the net result was that the yacht-building industry in the US was almost destroyed. People just bought them overseas instead, or didn’t buy them. So the tax was repealed in 1992, and it took years for the industry to recover.
Advantage, commenter! Others follow along the same line, and slam Cuban for not volunteering to give more of his money to the government if he’s such an altruist. It would certainly beat wasting money on anti-war agitprop, and would do less damage to Cuban’s reputation.
Now, that said, Cuban scores a solid point against Hillary Clinton’s tax plan.
The perspective that Hillary Clinton is offering that 250k in annual earnings qualifies you as rich is not only ridiculous but its a huge disincentive to those who work their asses off every day and have accomplished a salary that rewards their hard work. It also will impact millions who can least afford it.
I will tell you who will suffer the most if a “tax increase for the wealthy” starts at only 250k. The 50 plus year old executive who has spent the last 25 to 35 years working his or her butt off to reach a 250k salary. The 60 year old executive who is already scared shitless that their job could be eliminated tomorrow and that they have not saved enough for retirement.
Is that who you want to impact Hillary ? Men and women who are approaching retirement already in fear of job security and their futures ?
Not a good idea.
Hillary is just full of ideas that fit that description.
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His blustering is beginning to remind me of another Cuban.
mugged on December 12, 2007 at 3:33 PM
What a ninny.
Frozen Tex on December 12, 2007 at 3:34 PM
“If I want to buy a Gulfstream Jet for 40mm dollars…”
40 millimeter what?
We tried that, Einstein, it was called the Luxury Tax and it hurt blue collar union guys who build the toys you fly, drive and sail around in. Where do you think they come from, the boat tree? It’s amazing that somebody so successful could be so stupid.
Tony737 on December 12, 2007 at 3:43 PM
At least he’s not hiding. Many of the spineless leftists in his situation would be and are. That said, he sounds like a young fool. Ignorant of history and/or experience. Don’t be a bit surprised if he shows up as an outspoken conservative in 10-20 years.
I just don’t get how these rich a-holes choose to ignore the fact that 1000s of great American charities doing the work that’s truly important and doing it so much more efficiently than government, would be glad to receive the extra cash these fools seemingly fail to know what to do with.
Griz on December 12, 2007 at 3:44 PM
The “tax me more” crowd should, you know, just willingly pay more and leave everyone else alone.
Vizzini on December 12, 2007 at 3:51 PM
Right on “Vizzini”! The filthy rich are free to send all they want to the IRS . . . and then stay out of my face and my billfold.
rplat on December 12, 2007 at 3:55 PM
Don’t confuse luck with success…
liquidflorian on December 12, 2007 at 3:59 PM
It’s not like he is barred from filing his return with absolutely no deductions..He should start there and get back to us…Actually, he should do that with his business and personal taxes..
Pam on December 12, 2007 at 4:00 PM
Boy I wonder. Who was it. Who taught this. Idiot how to. Write in English.
crazy_legs on December 12, 2007 at 4:02 PM
What is the difference between a porcupine and a Lexus Hybrid? The pricks are on the inside.
RobCon on December 12, 2007 at 4:06 PM
“If I. Told. You once,. Mark I. Told. You 10mm times. You need to. Use More. Periods.”
Frozen Tex on December 12, 2007 at 4:07 PM
Thanks for sharing your smug with us, Mark.
Frozen Tex on December 12, 2007 at 4:08 PM
Did I get this site from here? It contains this quote:
This kind of thinking disturbs me.
Frankly, those that have that much money are usually smart. Cuban seems to be the dumbest douchebag around.
Mazztek on December 12, 2007 at 4:08 PM
You’d think a guy with that much money could afford to hire a proofreader.
Jim Treacher on December 12, 2007 at 4:21 PM
I’ll vote for any surtax that gets him out of Dallas.
Limerick on December 12, 2007 at 4:23 PM
Are we sure he’s not Rosie in drag? Have they ever been seen together?
Nice!
trubble on December 12, 2007 at 4:30 PM
How did Cuban get rich?? Did he inherit it?
It obviously wasn’t because of his brain.
thirteen28 on December 12, 2007 at 4:30 PM
Agreed. Someone should tell Mark Cuban that tax rates are minimums and that he can send the IRS more money if he wants to. What a lib-tard.
bigbeas on December 12, 2007 at 4:30 PM
New goal for the Education of Mark Cuban: How do we get Mark Cuban to hate taxes as much as he hates NBA Referees?
gabriel sutherland on December 12, 2007 at 4:34 PM
Have you been to a public school lately? It’s the dominant strategy to everything.
Ergo, nobody can play kick ball because there is a surplus of players, a shortage of balls, and limited number of fields to play on. The only solution, in the view of the American Public Education Syndicate, is no kickball at all.
gabriel sutherland on December 12, 2007 at 4:36 PM
Internet broadcasting. He’s a dot com billionaire.
Bryan on December 12, 2007 at 4:39 PM
If you feel you don’t pay enough in taxes…donate you money to charity…novel concept…for these morons
areseaoh on December 12, 2007 at 4:46 PM
heh heh…that’s hilarious!
commonsensehoosier on December 12, 2007 at 4:46 PM
From Wikipedia:
In other words, Cuban is a slimey sales huckster who happened to convince a lot of people that he knew something. He was also incredibly lucky. Kudos. Now STFU.
Andy in Agoura Hills on December 12, 2007 at 4:47 PM
No, he worked for it..
Pam on December 12, 2007 at 4:48 PM
Paper route.
Limerick on December 12, 2007 at 4:51 PM
Yeah Mark, the late 80’s Luxery Tax on yachts didn’t hurt the boating industry. All those rich people will keep buying those yachts no matter how high the taxes.
Then how come a very large boat manufacturing industry in Manatee and Sarasota Counties, Florida folded like a house of cards and put several thousands out of work because to the luxery tax imposed back then? The boating industry all over the U.S. suffered. The wealthy went to Italy and other countries to buy their yachts.
Helloyawl on December 12, 2007 at 4:51 PM
Wasn’t he the guy that was on “Dancing with the Stars” this season?
Wuptdo on December 12, 2007 at 4:53 PM
And I went there.
Aaaaah!
Speakup on December 12, 2007 at 4:54 PM
What’s so frigging depressing about this rant by Cuban is realizing how stupid you can be and still be a zillionaire.
Tantor on December 12, 2007 at 4:56 PM
Maybe Mark Cuban believes what he is writing, I doubt it. I wouldn’t be suprised to find out he has off shore accounts, and investments for nothing more than avoiding taxes.
Having politically motivated millionaires tell us dumber people how how taxes should work always seems to work against us. George Soros is the prime example of this kind of non-sense, sociolist minded buffoons as long as it isn’t their money.
Rode Werk on December 12, 2007 at 5:02 PM
Tp the Kennedy’s, Buffetts, Cubans, Rockefellers, and even the Clintons who profess wanting to pay more in taxes – have at it. Write those big checks to the government. No one’s stopping you.
They’ve got enough stashed away for themselves and their heirs to not be worried about losing half of what’s left when they go tango uniform. They are so selfish that they don’t want any new members to their exclusive clubs and playgrounds. So, let the government tax the beejeebers out of all the slobs who have worked their way up to a modicum of wealth.
Qzsusy on December 12, 2007 at 5:13 PM
So Mark Cuban likes higher taxes on the dirty rotten filthy
rich, well isn’t he the bleeding heart do gooder,who does he
think he is Taxula.hehe
canopfor on December 12, 2007 at 5:22 PM
Okay, here’s a little Econ 101: When you tax “the rich” so you can redistribute those funds to Jane and Joe Sixpack — such as by raising the capital gains tax as virtually each of the Dem candidates will do — “the rich” stop investing in the stock market and start doing such things as buying municipal bonds and CDs instead. The economy tanks, businesses fold, and PRESTO!, Jane and Joe Sixpack are the first to get laid off. The industries that employed them dry up, and the layoff becomes permanent unemployment or they become permanently underemployed. And the rich? Well, they’re still rich, but far, far fewer Jane and Joe Sixpacks are joining the ranks of the rich.
What’s worse is that Hillary and Edwards and Obama and all of the geniuses in their campaigns know this, but they figure the true impact of it will occur after they’ve served their 8 years, so, you know, screw it. Engage in class warfare, get the votes, get elected, and let Jane and Joe Sixpack twist in the wind under someone else’s administration. They figure Jane and Joe Sixpack (and the mainstream media) will probably blame that guy, anyway.
And they’re probably right.
Rational Thought on December 12, 2007 at 5:29 PM
Its amazing to me that someone so bright could be so stupid.
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GT on December 12, 2007 at 5:30 PM
“If you want to buy a Gulfstream jet for 40mm dollars”.
40 millimeters.
Tony737 on December 12,2007 at 3:43PM.
Tony737:Yes Tony,you are absolutely correct,that is 40
millimeters,please don’t let him near a howitzer,
or Artillery firing range.haha
canopfor on December 12, 2007 at 5:31 PM
He sold “Grit”.
Frozen Tex on December 12, 2007 at 5:38 PM
Cuban sounds alot like the current version of Bill Clinton. The whole point of Cuban’s screed is to tell everybody that I am richer than you are and I can buy anything I want and pay any sales taxes and it won’t bother me at all. But you can’t because your’e not me. It reminds me of Bill Clinton whining about “tax cuts for the rich” because “I wanted to support our troops and our soldiers and Bush wouldn’t let me”. Clinton always wants to tell everybody that he is richer than they are but he wants to pay more taxes. Nothing is stopping Clinton or Cuban from supporting our troops. They can pay more on their federal income taxes than minimally required if they wish to. Instead of paying fancy accountants to figure out how to pay the minimum, Cuban and Clinton can use turbo tax and perhaps miss some fancy deductions and then they will pay more than they might otherwise pay. What’s to stop Clinton, if he loves soldiers, from donating his speech royalties to pay off the mortgages of soldiers who died in combat and left behind wives and children? The thing about Clinton and Cuban that is key to understanding them is that they both suffer from narcisistic personality disorder. They need attention and reaffirmation of their “specialness” the way the rest of us need oxygen.
Larraby on December 12, 2007 at 5:40 PM
Taxing the rich to give to the poor is a fantasy. Any tax money is given to the likes of Ted Stevens, Nancy Pelosi, John Murtha and Maxine Waters to do with as they will. So the Woodstock Museum, the bridge to nowhere and Podunk, PA will receive more largesse. Helping the poor means that they can fatten various payrolls of liberal NGOs in order that they might hire more people to pimp for even more taxpayer largesse.
Re. Mark Cuban who happens to have a neighbor, Lil Wayne, who thinks Cuban is “real G” Read his thoughts on Cuban here:
http://freedarko.blogspot.com/2007/12/neighbors-biopic.html
thegreatbeast on December 12, 2007 at 5:51 PM
Lookit me lookit me and how wonderful I am because I feel I should be forced to pay more taxes. Idgit.
frreal on December 12, 2007 at 5:59 PM
Hey Cuban,
instead of giving your money to the government, why not give it to the Salvation Army, The Red Cross, some churches for youth programs, the Boy Scouts, 4H Clubs, some university scholarships. . . . . .
How about cutting your ticket prices to the big games, cutting your advertiser rates, cutting your licensing fees. . . .
In other words, if you have so much money you don’t know what to do with it all, then how about reducing your prices/profit, and quit gouging your fans?
rockhauler on December 12, 2007 at 6:29 PM
Doesn’t this describe a lot of Baby Boomers (of which, both Clinton and Cuban are)…
eanax on December 12, 2007 at 6:45 PM
Wasn’t that what he hired Dan Rather for or was that for document verification?
RW_theoriginal on December 12, 2007 at 7:13 PM
I thought Cuban was a libertarian. I seem to recall even reading it somewhere on the internet–the every trustworthy and always accurate internet. But now it just seems that Cuban is just an idiot–and yet someway he made billions?
thuja on December 12, 2007 at 7:34 PM
Does it mean that I’m really old if I get that reference?
mesablue on December 12, 2007 at 7:39 PM
Someone get this guy a copy of The Forgotten Man.
macattack on December 12, 2007 at 9:58 PM
Rich, Lucky, Stupid, and a real pain in the ass.
Texyank on December 12, 2007 at 11:00 PM
Roseanne Barr said it best: “You know what scares people with “money?” White Trash with money!”
Wuptdo on December 12, 2007 at 11:38 PM
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