“The next day, he told his interrogator that Allah had visited him in his cell during the night and told him to cooperate,”

Allah you magnificant bastard!

Then everyone in boot camp told to take their gas masks off during basic training was “tortured”.

You do not tell your enemies what you are capable of doing to them.

That’s how you break them without torture: the fear of the unknown.

If they can be sure of how far “Congress allows the military to go” they will resist with that much more more determination …to the point of having one of our cities turn into the surface of the sun for a millisecond.

And a million charcoal remnants of your family and friends being the moral highground “victory” of this self-eviscerating concern for the enemy’s comfort.

Just don’t videotape the damned procedures.

But do get the info that will prevent mass-murder from these crazed s.o.b.’s.

I think Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl would agree.

(If they hadn’t met some of these maniacs personally.)

“A former colleague of mine asked him during the conversation one day, ‘What would you do if we decided to let you go one day?’ And he said, ‘I would kill every American and Jew I could get my hands on…It’s nothing personal. You’re a nice guy. But this is who I am.’”

And we’re worried about waterboarding?

Talk about the forest/trees dilemma.

SHEESH

“From that day on, he answered every question,” Kiriakou said. “The threat information he provided disrupted a number of attacks, maybe dozens of attacks.”

But, but . . . I’ve been assured by the Deciders that torture never yields reliable information? How can this be?

It has been a few years, and technology could have advanced, but a few years ago it would have been impossible for a cell phone signal to penetrate a shipping container…but things change.

right2bright on December 10, 2007 at 6:02 PM

It has been a few years, and technology could have advanced, but a few years ago it would have been impossible for a cell phone to be “beamed” into a shipping container…but things change.

Hey MB4, what was that container made of Paper? Ever try to send a signal of a cell phone from inside a shipping container?

right2bright on December 10, 2007 at 6:02 PM

Paper?
What do you think?
Wood? That would probably work just fine.
Metal? That might not work so well.

I repeat: Finally, Jones says, she convinced a sympathetic guard to loan her a cell phone so she could call her father in Texas.

Do you think the sympathetic guard “beamed” the cell pone into the shipping container to her?

Or do you think that maybe he could have opened it up and let her stick her head out to make the call?

Their thirst for power by any means is our death sentence.

I know why the wacko lefties are against waterboarding. They are against it because it works. They know it works. They hate the fact that it works.

What baffles me is why McCain is against it. It works and it causes no permenant damage. John McCain walks around with one arm longer then the other to this day because of what he went through as a guest at the Hanoi Hilton. So I can see why he would be against breaking a detainee’s arm in seven different places in order to extract information, but waterboarding? I would think a man who has experienced the types of things he has experienced would welcome such an efficient, effective and harmless way of extracting information who wish to set off a nuke in a major US city.

John McCain is too illogical to be POTUS.

Waterboarding is a “form” of torture, but in no way is it the equivalent of what John McCain went through in Vietnam or the kind of torture that Saddam put people through.

GT on December 10, 2007 at 5:49 PM

By McCain’s logic we should stop shooting at our enemies so that maybe they won’t shoot at us.

By the Dem’s logic, we should stop speaking harshly of our enemies and then they will like us.

Hey MB4, what was that container made of Paper? Ever try to send a signal of a cell phone from inside a shipping container? It has been a few years, and technology could have advanced, but a few years ago it would have been impossible for a cell phone signal to penetrate a shipping container…but things change.
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I miss the good ol days of pulling teeth without a pain killer, than jabbing the wound with a steel probe…

Frozen Tex on December 10, 2007 at 5:47 PM

Hehehehe.

Waterboarding is a “form” of torture

I think it would be considered more coercion or harrassment as it doesn’s seem to be a procedure that inflicts pain. The semantic difference doesn’t mean much to some, but there are degrees and I think it matters.

“Torture is when you do it for no other reason than to harm people. Interrogation is done to get information”.

Now Let’s play: “Is the Congress/Senate smarter than a 7th grader!!!”

Where were the wusses when we were blasting Noriega with “The Howard Stern Show”?

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By the way, haven’t more people been publicly waterboarded by liberal protesters than by the CIA?

I’m afraid John McCain would consider that torture too.

conservnut on December 10, 2007 at 5:42 PM

Well, we’ll just have to make him forget, too.

Republican Jedi: “This add isn’t a campaign contribution.”

McCain: “this add isn’t a campaign contibution!”

RJ: “You won’t sing while campaigning again. It’s undiginified.”

McC: “I don’t think I’ll sing while campaigning anymore; it’s not very dignified!”

if your loved ones would be saved by the information obtained, would you use the waterboarding technique? if they say no they are liars, if they say yes then they should shut up!

We have club gitmo; the islamofascists have hammers vs. genitals, power drills to the eye balls and people who saw heads off.

Water boarding is not torture.

Back when I was LIVING on US Navy ships (single enlisted guys did NOT get barraks, or BAQ if you were ships company, and this was when I was an E-6!)… they were letting prisoners out of jail because of their living conditions… and they had TWICE the amount of Sqare footage we were allowed.

If there is any truth to it, it sould be all over the place by now.

Victim: Gang-Rape Cover-Up by U.S., Halliburton/KBR

Jamie Leigh Jones, now 22, says that after she was raped by multiple men at a KBR camp in the Green Zone, the company put her under guard in a shipping container with a bed and warned her that if she left Iraq for medical treatment, she’d be out of a job.

Legal experts say Jones’ alleged assailants will likely never face a judge and jury, due to an enormous loophole that has effectively left contractors in Iraq beyond the reach of United States law.