I suggest you go back to English class. Either that or see a psychiatrist about your excess hostility toward even mild criticism.

Also, your inability to understand basic English is really not my fault, but I’ll be nice and explain that I never called Christianity “blood-thirsty and violent”. It’s adherents certainly have been both blood-thirsty and violent throughout history, and, in some places continue to be, even today.

You can go to the history books…I can go to the front pages when it comes to the RoP.

Take your rude moral equivalence elsewhere please.

The Taiping Rebellion was a large-scale revolt against the authority and forces of the Qing Government in China. It was conducted from 1850 to 1864 by an army and civil administration led by heterodox Christian convert Hong Xiuquan. He established the Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace with capital Nanjing and attained control of significant parts of southern China, at its height ruling over about 30 million people. The theocratic and militaristic regime instituted several social reforms, including the replacement of Confucianism, Buddhism and Chinese folk religion by a peculiar form of Christianity, holding that Hong Xiuquan was the younger brother of Jesus Christ.

The Taiping areas were constantly besieged and harassed by Qing forces; the rebellion was eventually put down by the Qing army aided by French and British forces. With an estimated death toll of between 20 and 30 million due to warfare and resulting starvation, this civil war ranks among history’s deadliest conflicts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion

The Chinese have this funny habit of warping foreign ideologies to localize them. This included Communism of course, which Mao changed in some major ways (i.e. replacing the proletariat with the peasantry).

I think in general the spread of Christianity of good in China, provided that it is not merely used as a tool with which to leverage other ideologies, as happened in China 150 years ago.

c6gunner on December 9, 2007 at 2:02 PM

So the Inquisition was conducted by blood-thirsty and violent Christian gangs in Africa(!)… Remind me not to bother with whatever books you’ve been reading.

Still waiting for those reliable source links…

lol

If your standard of evidence is “reliable source links”, I’d suggest getting off the Internet and picking up a book.

You can start by reading about the Inquisition, and then going forward in time.

This is a great story, although I would disagree that money is in responsible for a “breakdown of the moral order”. Nothing could be more immoral than millions of people dying of starvation thanks to Mao’s glorious Communist revolution.

Buy Danish on December 9, 2007 at 10:41 AM

For those looking for it, there’s your leftist media spin. To them, Maoism was the moral authority, and now that that’s gone, well golly, something has to sweep in to counter the corrupting influence of root-of-all-evil money!

Also, your inability to understand basic English is really not my fault, but I’ll be nice and explain that I never called Christianity “blood-thirsty and violent”. It’s adherents certainly have been both blood-thirsty and violent throughout history, and, in some places continue to be, even today.

There are plenty of Christian gangs in Africa who are just as blood-thirsty and violent as their Muslim equivalents.

c6gunner on December 9, 2007 at 11:50 AM

Care to back up that ludicrous claim with some reliable sources? You obviously have zero understanding of Christianity to label it “blood-thirsty and violent.”

For those who are bitching about Christianity being embrased by the Chinese, I have a question. Would you rather they were embrasing radical Islam? Hmmm?

I’d rather they were acting rationally. Given the choices you’ve listed though, yes, I would rather have them turning Christian. Keep in mind, though, that Christianity isn’t exactly a miracle cure. There are plenty of Christian gangs in Africa who are just as blood-thirsty and violent as their Muslim equivalents.

Only the good die young.
RIP

Who buys that stuff?????

Christians still have it tough in China, so don’t think it’s too comfy. Martyrs and long prison sentences for being a member of the real faith of peace doesn’t come cheap.

Thank you, and bravo.

I don’t want to be classified as a slanty eye for one & for two we good descent Christian folk aint ever going to be lumped in with them Moslem folk, because well you know we don’t praise that moon god and all that.
So folks be very, very careful, we’re chasin’ Muslims…

billy on December 8, 2007 at 11:26 PM

YOU’RE A TROLL! EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN MENTAL IMAGE OF WHO/WHAT YOU REALLY ARE, AND IT’S A SORRY PICTURE INDEED. TO IMAGINE THAT YOUR LIFE HAS COME TO THIS– HIDING BEHIND THE INTERNET TRYING TO INJECT POISON INTO THE COLLECTIVE BLOODSTREAM. YOU ARE ON NOBODY’S SIDE. NOBODY IS WITH YOU. I KNOW YOU LIKE GETTING A RESPONSE– IT’S HOW YOU GET OFF. MAYBE THERE’S STILL A CHANCE YOU CAN GET SOME HELP. THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

Unless you consider An Inconvenient Truth a religious book like some do in Napa Valley.

The Gaia Napa Valley Hotel made waves last week for putting copies of Al Gore’s book An Inconvenient Truth in its guestrooms and removing the bible from the nightstands.

When I was on business in Malaysia, I found a Bible, a Lotus Sutra, and a Quran in my hotel nightstand. Which brings me to Intimacy Kits replacing bibles in hotels. If current trends continue, a police force will prevent that.

“Some of these ‘spies’ could be waitresses or even janitors at hotels acting as auxiliary undercover agents for our religious department,” the head of the State Government’s Islamic and Welfare Committee, Rosol Wahid, was quoted as saying.

Bad enough I already sleep with one eye open in hotels already.

Christ. I hope not. The last thing we need is more people believing in ghosts, miracles, and fairies.

c6gunner on December 8, 2007 at 11:06 PM

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Ghosts?
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But that is pretty much what the science of quantum theory suggests, that we are all ghosts.
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if all the empty space were squeezed out of matter, the human race could easily fit in the volume of a sugar cube
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How can one not believe in The Almighty God?

Wow, 50 million Bibles. Not a bad start to the next chapter in Chinese history.

Zorro on December 8, 2007 at 10:14 PM

…but are the knock offs?

You know, you could screw up every now and then, in order to avoid embarrassing the rest of us. :)

By the way, there’s an interesting link from the Times Online article cited above here.

And that a devoted and humble sacrifice to the flowing Truth trumps any bowing to rigid orthodoxies, whether religious (pharisee) or political (communist).

Christ’s message is personal and uplifting and individualistic and compassionate.

Superior to Marx or Mohammad’s collectivism and anti-individualism and fealty to any undoubtable dogma.

Plus, Jesus is one of the wittiest guys who ever lived.

His sayings outshine those of any pedestrian dictator or politician or warlord.

The Chinese will only gain from contact with his spirit.

“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
destroys fanaticism at the root.

“Blessed are the merciful.” is the seed of a more decent species.

A Merry Christmas to 1 billion souls.

(Lao Tzu would like that he was a carpenter, too.)

What the Times didn’t report is that you get a free iPhone with each Bible.

The Meizu M8, actually.

JUST LIKE the iPhone. Promise. (blatant theft is the sincerest form of flattery.)