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	<title>Comments on: Petraeus&#8217;s strategy is working, says &#8230; war critic Batiste</title>
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		<title>By: This ain&#8217;t Hell, but you can see it from here &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Just makin&#8217; $hit up!&#8221; the Jon Soltz Story</title>
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		<dc:creator>This ain&#8217;t Hell, but you can see it from here &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Just makin&#8217; $hit up!&#8221; the Jon Soltz Story</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] look like an ass didn&#8217;t work out so well since (as I will discuss in more depth in part II) it was at least partially the catalyst for General Batiste leaving. You timed it perfectly though, just as your friends and fellow travellers in Moveon.org were [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] look like an ass didn&#8217;t work out so well since (as I will discuss in more depth in part II) it was at least partially the catalyst for General Batiste leaving. You timed it perfectly though, just as your friends and fellow travellers in Moveon.org were [...]</p>
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		<title>By: spec_ops_mateo</title>
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		<dc:creator>spec_ops_mateo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>War bonds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>War bonds.</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I often wonder why the citizens of the US aren’t called on to do more. I wish our leaders would provide a better vision and specifics in that respect. For example, (I believe it was in one of the State of the Union addresses) Bush talked about a civilian service corps. I don’t recall seeing much about that since then.&quot;


What would a civilian service corps do? Either take jobs away from people who already do what the corps wants to do  or take away volunteer opportunities from people who already fill those slots as volunteers.



Alternatively, the corps will become just another paid volunteer job which does make work, feel good, projects.



Roosevelt&#039;s Civilian Conservation Corps paid its workers $30.00 with board and lodging at a time when soldiers were being paid $17.00.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I often wonder why the citizens of the US aren’t called on to do more. I wish our leaders would provide a better vision and specifics in that respect. For example, (I believe it was in one of the State of the Union addresses) Bush talked about a civilian service corps. I don’t recall seeing much about that since then.&#8221;</p>
<p>What would a civilian service corps do? Either take jobs away from people who already do what the corps wants to do  or take away volunteer opportunities from people who already fill those slots as volunteers.</p>
<p>Alternatively, the corps will become just another paid volunteer job which does make work, feel good, projects.</p>
<p>Roosevelt&#8217;s Civilian Conservation Corps paid its workers $30.00 with board and lodging at a time when soldiers were being paid $17.00.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 06:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;America was not mobilized for the Long War&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m glad he&#039;s come around, but I wish he had thought of these when visionaries like Sec Rumsfeld and Pres Bush were mobilizing, rather than making their jobs harder and helping our enemies.  He should acknowledge that he was also wrong when he said there was “failed leadership, lack of strategy and misdirection” at the start of the war. 

&lt;strong&gt;Pres. Bush and Sec Rumsfeld fought the battle when it was difficult and mistakes were inevitable&lt;/strong&gt;. They set a direction that addressed the root cause of the 9/11 attacks and  enacted a workable, global strategy to defeat it, all the while keeping US AND civilian casualties lower than any other US war.


As it becomes clear that we are wining, more and more people like Gen Batiste will appear. We shouldn&#039;t make all of these Saul&#039;s apologize before entering Damascus, because in a war you take your allies as they arrive. We should, however, make sure they learn from and correct their mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>America was not mobilized for the Long War</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m glad he&#8217;s come around, but I wish he had thought of these when visionaries like Sec Rumsfeld and Pres Bush were mobilizing, rather than making their jobs harder and helping our enemies.  He should acknowledge that he was also wrong when he said there was “failed leadership, lack of strategy and misdirection” at the start of the war. </p>
<p><strong>Pres. Bush and Sec Rumsfeld fought the battle when it was difficult and mistakes were inevitable</strong>. They set a direction that addressed the root cause of the 9/11 attacks and  enacted a workable, global strategy to defeat it, all the while keeping US AND civilian casualties lower than any other US war.</p>
<p>As it becomes clear that we are wining, more and more people like Gen Batiste will appear. We shouldn&#8217;t make all of these Saul&#8217;s apologize before entering Damascus, because in a war you take your allies as they arrive. We should, however, make sure they learn from and correct their mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: clghitis</title>
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		<dc:creator>clghitis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They sure want to forget about using Jesse Macbeth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They sure want to forget about using Jesse Macbeth</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernGent</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernGent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Nothing more problematic. They’ll just forget they ever used him.

laelaps on December 8, 2007 at 6:19 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hmmmm.  You have a point.  Anyone seen Cindy Sheehan lately?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Nothing more problematic. They’ll just forget they ever used him.</p>
<p>laelaps on December 8, 2007 at 6:19 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmmmm.  You have a point.  Anyone seen Cindy Sheehan lately?</p>
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		<title>By: dont taze me bro</title>
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		<dc:creator>dont taze me bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the WaPo piece:  &quot;After the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, America was not mobilized for the Long War. This was an opportunity lost, but it is not too late. Many Americans are frustrated by the war effort, the burden of which has been shouldered by less than one percent of our citizenry. Our country is accustomed to winning. We deserve a comprehensive strategy that is focused on victory and guided by decisive leadership.&quot;
.

I often wonder why the citizens of the US aren&#039;t called on to do more.   I wish our leaders would provide a better vision and specifics in that respect.  For example, (I believe it was in one of the State of the Union addresses) Bush talked about a civilian service corps.   I don&#039;t recall seeing much about that since then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the WaPo piece:  &#8220;After the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, America was not mobilized for the Long War. This was an opportunity lost, but it is not too late. Many Americans are frustrated by the war effort, the burden of which has been shouldered by less than one percent of our citizenry. Our country is accustomed to winning. We deserve a comprehensive strategy that is focused on victory and guided by decisive leadership.&#8221;<br />
.</p>
<p>I often wonder why the citizens of the US aren&#8217;t called on to do more.   I wish our leaders would provide a better vision and specifics in that respect.  For example, (I believe it was in one of the State of the Union addresses) Bush talked about a civilian service corps.   I don&#8217;t recall seeing much about that since then.</p>
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		<title>By: davenp35</title>
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		<dc:creator>davenp35</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although, as Allah points out, this was in the works for a while, I think that Gen Batiste&#039;s defection from VoteVets to Vets for Freedom is a VERY big deal.  Just as important as the military surge in Iraq working is a surge here at home in support for our war efforts, if we ever want to see a lasting victory.  The pendulum has begun to swing back in favor of support for our troops, contempt for our enemies, and victory against Islamic extremism.  I pray the progress continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although, as Allah points out, this was in the works for a while, I think that Gen Batiste&#8217;s defection from VoteVets to Vets for Freedom is a VERY big deal.  Just as important as the military surge in Iraq working is a surge here at home in support for our war efforts, if we ever want to see a lasting victory.  The pendulum has begun to swing back in favor of support for our troops, contempt for our enemies, and victory against Islamic extremism.  I pray the progress continues.</p>
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		<title>By: bnelson44</title>
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		<dc:creator>bnelson44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...whether or not we like it, Iraq is central to that fight. We cannot walk away from our strategic interests in the region. Iraq cannot become a staging ground for Islamic extremism or be dominated by other powers in the region, such as Iran and Syria. A premature or precipitous withdrawal from Iraq, without the requisite stability and security, is likely to cause the violence there -- which has decreased substantially but is still present -- to cascade into an even larger humanitarian crisis. ...

Fourth, our strategy in fighting the Long War must address Iran. Much has been made this week of the intelligence judgments that Iran has stopped its weapons program. No matter what, Iran must not be permitted to become a nuclear power. All options should be exhausted before we use military force, but force, nonetheless, should never be off the table. Diplomatic efforts -- from a position of strength, both regionally and globally -- must be used to engage our friends and coerce our enemies to apply pressure on the Iranian regime. 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/07/AR2007120701772.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;whether or not we like it, Iraq is central to that fight. We cannot walk away from our strategic interests in the region. Iraq cannot become a staging ground for Islamic extremism or be dominated by other powers in the region, such as Iran and Syria. A premature or precipitous withdrawal from Iraq, without the requisite stability and security, is likely to cause the violence there &#8212; which has decreased substantially but is still present &#8212; to cascade into an even larger humanitarian crisis. &#8230;</p>
<p>Fourth, our strategy in fighting the Long War must address Iran. Much has been made this week of the intelligence judgments that Iran has stopped its weapons program. No matter what, Iran must not be permitted to become a nuclear power. All options should be exhausted before we use military force, but force, nonetheless, should never be off the table. Diplomatic efforts &#8212; from a position of strength, both regionally and globally &#8212; must be used to engage our friends and coerce our enemies to apply pressure on the Iranian regime. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/07/AR2007120701772.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/07/AR2007120701772.html?hpid%3Dopinionsbox1&amp;sub=AR</a></p>
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		<title>By: laelaps</title>
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		<dc:creator>laelaps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing more problematic.  They&#039;ll just forget they ever used him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing more problematic.  They&#8217;ll just forget they ever used him.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael in MI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you talking about this part, AllahPundit:
&lt;blockquote&gt;First, the United States must be successful in the fight against worldwide Islamic extremism. We have seen this ruthless enemy firsthand, and its global ambitions are undeniable. &lt;strong&gt;This struggle, the Long War, will probably take decades to prosecute. Failure is not an option.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That &quot;Long War, will probably take decades to prosecute&quot; part is reality, but a reality the Left (and even many on the Right) refuses to acknowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you talking about this part, AllahPundit:</p>
<blockquote><p>First, the United States must be successful in the fight against worldwide Islamic extremism. We have seen this ruthless enemy firsthand, and its global ambitions are undeniable. <strong>This struggle, the Long War, will probably take decades to prosecute. Failure is not an option.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>That &#8220;Long War, will probably take decades to prosecute&#8221; part is reality, but a reality the Left (and even many on the Right) refuses to acknowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael in MI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2007/12/another_surge_convert.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Weekly Standard article&lt;/a&gt;, it notes that GEN Batiste was a Board member of the anti-war VoteVets.org and not only quit that group, but also joined up with the support-the-war-effort Vets for Freedom.

To the Left, that&#039;s basically like leaving Planned Parenthood and joining up with some Pro-Life group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2007/12/another_surge_convert.asp" rel="nofollow">The Weekly Standard article</a>, it notes that GEN Batiste was a Board member of the anti-war VoteVets.org and not only quit that group, but also joined up with the support-the-war-effort Vets for Freedom.</p>
<p>To the Left, that&#8217;s basically like leaving Planned Parenthood and joining up with some Pro-Life group.</p>
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		<title>By: Allahpundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allahpundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You mean the Iran thing?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, but that&#039;s not exactly out of the nutroots playbook either.  I meant the WoT stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You mean the Iran thing?</p></blockquote>
<p>No, but that&#8217;s not exactly out of the nutroots playbook either.  I meant the WoT stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Number 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Number 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point contempt for Rumsfeld is a positive for me, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point contempt for Rumsfeld is a positive for me, too.</p>
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		<title>By: see-dubya</title>
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		<dc:creator>see-dubya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean the Iran thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean the Iran thing?</p>
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