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Video: Club for Growth lowers the Hucka-boom; Update: Bush had NIE for four years, Huck suggests; Update: Huck 39, Mitt 17 in Iowa, says Newsweek

posted at 4:07 pm on December 7, 2007 by Allahpundit
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One of those ads using viral footage that you and I have seen a thousand times but which may open some fresh eyes. They’re not messing around, either. It’s a $175,000 buy encompassing local TV in Iowa and South Carolina and a national run on Fox News. To paraphrase Count Rugen: Good heavens, fiscal conservatives. Are you still trying to win?

Here’s another potentially fruitful vein of attack. I don’t want to be paranoid about religious insinuations vis-a-vis Mitt but I raised an eyebrow to this response he gave CNN when asked about Romney’s speech:

The former Arkansas governor said from what he had heard, Romney “seemed to have done an excellent job.”

But the Baptist minister argued that he has been confronted with questions about his faith more than Romney has, and that he would make a “God speech” too if given the airtime.

“I get all of the God questions at the debates, so you know when people say, ‘Oh, he had to make a speech,’ I’m thinking, ‘Hey you know what? If you’ll give me national television time, I’ll make you a God speech, and I’ll tell you what I’ll do, I’ll throw in an offering and an altar call to throw in with it.’”

The “Christian leader” can do that for you.

Update: Yes, I’m well aware that he’s joking. It’s patently obvious that he’s joking. My point is simply that the joke is a subtle way of reminding people of his credentials as a minister, something Mitt doesn’t have. That’s what I mean by “paranoia” — you never know when, as in the case of the “Christian leader” tag, he’s trying to play the religion card or when it’s innocent.

Update: Not enough? Then tell me, what does he mean here when he asserts that Bush had the new NIE “for four years”? The whole point of the NIE is that it reversed the previous NIE from 2005 that claimed Iran had a covert weapons program. The one that just came out is brand new, compiled over the last year or so and reportedly reliant on intel that was recently obtained. He didn’t misspeak, either; he hinted that the report was four years old in an interview on MSNBC this morning too.

Between this and the “INS” gaffe yesterday, if he doesn’t watch out the narrative’s going to shift from Dumond, immigration, and religion to whether this guy has even a basic sense of what he’s talking about. Click the image to watch.

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Update: Amazing.

Questions about religion—in particular skepticism about Romney’s Mormonism—appeared to play a role in the latest results on the GOP side. The survey was completed on the day of the former Massachusetts governor’s much-heralded speech in College Station, Texas, addressing his religion, though most respondents probably had not heard it. Still, only a small number of the 540 Republican voters surveyed in Iowa (10 percent) said they wanted to hear more from Romney about that issue, and close to half (46 percent) said at least some Iowa Republican voters will not consider supporting Romney because of his Mormon faith. More than a quarter (27 percent) said they don’t consider Mormons to be Christians, and one in six (16 percent) said they are less likely to support Romney because he is a Mormon.

Huckabee’s religious credibility, by the same token, appears to be a key factor behind his surge. Huckabee has opened up a huge lead among evangelicals, who are likely to make up about 40 percent of GOP caucus-goers on Jan. 3, the survey found. Among all Republican voters who identify themselves as evangelicals, 47 percent support Huckabee while only 14 percent back Romney. Among nonevangelicals, the two candidates are dead even at 24 percent apiece. Even so, a majority of Republican voters indicated that other issues, such as abortion, same-sex marriage, immigration, health care and Iraq, are more important than religion.


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To paraphrase Count Rugen: Good heavens, fiscal conservatives. Are you still trying to win?

Hello; my name is Conservative Voter. You taxed Arkansas to death… Prepare to lose!

Frozen Tex on December 7, 2007 at 4:10 PM

I’ll make you a God speech, and I’ll tell you what I’ll do, I’ll throw in an offering and an altar call to throw in with it.’”

I think I’m going to puke.

peski on December 7, 2007 at 4:12 PM

If you’ll give me national television time, I’ll make you a God speech, and I’ll tell you what I’ll do, I’ll throw in an offering and an altar call to throw in with it.’”

Sir, I’ve seen Billy Graham. I’ve been to a Billy Graham Crusade; you, sir, are no Billy Graham.

It’s a freakin’ Presidential Election, not Sunday Service, Man! Cut it out, for all our sakes!

Frozen Tex on December 7, 2007 at 4:12 PM

NOOOOOOO! A power that is not human will fuel the rise of taxes!

ReubenJCogburn on December 7, 2007 at 4:13 PM

Geesh, this whole site is stretching to impugn Huckabee. Agenda driven drivel.

tizzidale on December 7, 2007 at 4:15 PM

Looks like Huckabee was kidding to me.

I hope.

No matter what, I’m sure his insta-response team will find a way to say he didn’t really say what he said or mean what you thought he meant.

Slublog on December 7, 2007 at 4:15 PM

I’ll make you a God speech, and I’ll tell you what I’ll do, I’ll throw in an offering and an altar call to throw in with it.’”

it’s a joke. you people suck.

tizzidale on December 7, 2007 at 4:15 PM

Geesh, this whole site is stretching to impugn Huckabee. Agenda driven drivel.

Pointing out his record is impugning him?

To go with this thread’s theme…I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Slublog on December 7, 2007 at 4:16 PM

I think I’m going to puke.

peski on December 7, 2007 at 4:12 PM

I already did.

Huck=Carter. I only want to see my minister on Sunday, not in the White House.

BacaDog on December 7, 2007 at 4:16 PM

tizzidale on December 7, 2007 at 4:15 PM

Hey, it’s ’cause he’s riding high right now. If it was Hunter or Tancredo or even Fred! leading in the numbers game right now, you’d see a lot of the same.

Frozen Tex on December 7, 2007 at 4:18 PM

Great ad. And an “altar call?” Are you serious?

I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a campaign rise and fall this fast. Or the fall it’s going to take, I hope (and pray, most fervently) very shortly.

Vanceone on December 7, 2007 at 4:18 PM

http://www.huckair.com

Hening on December 7, 2007 at 4:19 PM

http://www.huckair.com

Hening on December 7, 2007 at 4:19 PM

???

BacaDog on December 7, 2007 at 4:20 PM

MUST.SUPPORT.ROMNEY.OR.GUILIANI.EVERYONE.ELSE.IS.FLAWED.

tizzidale on December 7, 2007 at 4:21 PM

MUST.SUPPORT.ROMNEY.OR.GUILIANI.EVERYONE.ELSE.IS.FLAWED.

Everyone is flawed. Huckabee is just too flawed for me to support.

Slublog on December 7, 2007 at 4:23 PM

tizzidale on December 7, 2007 at 4:15 PM

tizzidale, from the looks of your website its certainly no surprise to me why you are supporting/defending the Jimmy Carter+Bill Clinton ticket.

Zetterson on December 7, 2007 at 4:23 PM

it’s a joke. you people suck.

tizzidale on December 7, 2007 at 4:15 PM

Wow, you sure told us. Too bad the part about him being a tax-raising, shamnesty-promoting, big government nanny-stater hiding behind religion isn’t a joke.

ReubenJCogburn on December 7, 2007 at 4:23 PM

To go with this thread’s theme…I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Slublog on December 7, 2007 at 4:16 PM

Never go up against a Southern Politician when spiritually emotive pandering is on the line!

Frozen Tex on December 7, 2007 at 4:23 PM

Agenda driven drivel.

tizzidale on December 7, 2007 at 4:15 PM

Damn straight, agenda driven: lower taxes, national defense, individual freedom and responsibility. Just say NO to Suckabee’s higher taxes, pandering to illegal alien sob stories, and theocratic aspirations.

peski on December 7, 2007 at 4:24 PM

it’s a joke. you people suck.

tizzidale on December 7, 2007 at 4:15 PM

No you are the joke. What you are hearing here is highly typical of the American people as a whole. I am an evangelical Christian, but I do not want a tax and spend liberal in conservative clothing as the next President of the United States.

Sorry I find Huck disturbing on many levels, he plays way to fast and lose with the facts for a man who is suppose to be minister to suit my tastes.

doriangrey on December 7, 2007 at 4:24 PM

Looks like Huckabee was kidding to me.

Sure he’s kidding, but the point of the joke is to remind people he’s a minister.

Allahpundit on December 7, 2007 at 4:24 PM

I’ll throw in an offering and an altar call to throw in with it.

Come on people, it was a joke, nothing more. Sifting through Huckabee’s record is fine, and should be done, but jumping on him for making a joke about being a preacher is ridiculous.

Complete7 on December 7, 2007 at 4:25 PM

I’m telling you people… WAKE UP!

Romney = flip flopper (cannot be trusted)

Huckabee = fiscal liberal, semi pro-illegal immigration.

Guiliani = social liberal and anti-gun

Fred Thompson = The right man for the job!

Conservatives…wakeup! Wake up and start thinking about Thompson.

msipes on December 7, 2007 at 4:26 PM

He doesn’t have to remind people. It’s his title in the media, Baptist-minister, former-governor, Mike Huckabee. Add, Hot-Air opposed, and it’ll be perfect.

tizzidale on December 7, 2007 at 4:26 PM

Who the hell is advising this guy? It’s like they have some internal bet on how fast they can drop his numbers.

Lord. In just a few short days I’ve gone from watching him with some interest to being just plain scared.

BacaDog on December 7, 2007 at 4:27 PM

Hillary, even Obama would walk all over Huck in the general.

bbz123 on December 7, 2007 at 4:27 PM

The update: Does Huck have a clue? Seriously, does he? How can a report be in Bush’s hands for four years that is less than a year old?

Unless Huck’s onto some sort of Truther thing.

“The NIE recent? I don’t believe in such a thing. *Ooof*” Huck’s in the fireswamp now.

Vanceone on December 7, 2007 at 4:27 PM

I have supported Thompson since rumblings began of him running. Unfortunately, I’m in a state that by the time the primaries run around, it’ll be over.

tizzidale on December 7, 2007 at 4:27 PM

Conservatives…wakeup! Wake up and start thinking about Thompson.

msipes on December 7, 2007 at 4:26 PM

Start thinking? This sight has been covering Fred since before the beginning… um… you know what I mean…

Frozen Tex on December 7, 2007 at 4:28 PM

Corner reporting:

Huckabee just called up Sean Hannity to have his say on air (he’s on now).

bnelson44 on December 7, 2007 at 4:29 PM

He doesn’t have to remind people. It’s his title in the media

He doesn’t? What’s with the “Christian leader” ad, then?

There’s someone here pushing agenda-driven garbage but it ain’t me. If you want people to worry less about Huck hiding behind his robes, let him know maybe he should lay off attributing his rise in the polls to prayer. The “media” gets funny ideas when they hear crap like that.

Allahpundit on December 7, 2007 at 4:30 PM

Huck keeps a “Jesus” button on hand for all appearances.

brak on December 7, 2007 at 4:30 PM

“The NIE recent? I don’t believe in such a thing. *Ooof*” Huck’s in the fireswamp now.

Vanceone on December 7, 2007 at 4:27 PM

“What about the NIEs?”

“Nonexistant Intelligence Estimates? Everybody knows they don’t exist…”

Frozen Tex on December 7, 2007 at 4:30 PM

A President Should Pay Some Attention to Iran [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Fred vs. Huck:

COLUMBUS, OHIO — At a news conference that just wrapped up, Fred Thompson was asked what he thought of Mike Huckabee drawing a blank when asked about recent reports about the National Intelligence Estimate re: Iran.

“Not only is Iran the major long-term threat to our country, the nuclear program is the most important part of the Iran consideration. For a presidential candidate not to know that and not to keep up with that is very suprising,” said Thompson.

“These are the kinds of things I’ve been talking about all of my life. Now, if the American people have other priorities, if they want someone who smiles a lot more than I do, or someone who is a better quipster than I am, who has no experience in these areas, that’s for the American people to decide.”

12/07 02:29 PM

bnelson44 on December 7, 2007 at 4:31 PM

Hello; my name is Conservative Voter. You taxed Arkansas to death… Prepare to lose!

Frozen Tex on December 7, 2007 at 4:10 PM

Bwhahahahaa! Huck getting the GOP nomination? Inconthievable!

techno_barbarian on December 7, 2007 at 4:31 PM

I only want to see my minister on Sunday, not in the White House.

BacaDog on December 7, 2007 at 4:16 PM

I wouldn’t mind seeing a minister in the White House, if that minister has personal character of King David, but I certainly do not want a wishy washy feel good pseudo-socialist nanny-stater tax and spend wolf in sheep’s clothing liberal in conservative clothing in the
White House.

doriangrey on December 7, 2007 at 4:31 PM

Come on people, it was a joke, nothing more. Sifting through Huckabee’s record is fine, and should be done, but jumping on him for making a joke about being a preacher is ridiculous.

Complete7 on December 7, 2007 at 4:25 PM

When he bludgeons us with it every day it gets old real fast. Especially when he’s running for a secular office, not a religious one.

ReubenJCogburn on December 7, 2007 at 4:31 PM

Sure he’s kidding, but the point of the joke is to remind people he’s a minister.

Ah. So it’s as though he’s trying to confirm Krauthammer’s thesis.

Slublog on December 7, 2007 at 4:33 PM

The “media” gets funny ideas when they hear crap like that.

Allahpundit on December 7, 2007 at 4:30 PM

Uh, amen to that.

BacaDog on December 7, 2007 at 4:34 PM

Bwhahahahaa! Huck getting the GOP nomination? Inconthievable!

techno_barbarian on December 7, 2007 at 4:31 PM

HA!

Frozen Tex on December 7, 2007 at 4:34 PM

Bwhahahahaa! Huck getting the GOP nomination? Inconthievable!

techno_barbarian on December 7, 2007 at 4:31 PM

I have a feeling his role is to keep Romney from getting the early states. Then Rudy takes off.

bnelson44 on December 7, 2007 at 4:34 PM

And really, this works out well for the MSM. Keep the Republican side focused on religion. Show the undecideds and moderates that, yes, those conservatives really are all a bunch of religion-obsessed theocrats. And Huck goes right along with it, dropping “Jesus loves me” hints wherever he goes. So we get that and debates on Mormonism. This crap will get trounced in the general election.

It’s a perfect strategy to suck up coverage from Fred (an actual conservative) or Rudy (probably more electable).

Frustrating. Go away Huck. And take Ron Paul with you.

brak on December 7, 2007 at 4:36 PM

Ah. So it’s as though he’s trying to confirm Krauthammer’s thesis.

Slublog on December 7, 2007 at 4:33 PM

Good point. I think Charles nailed him to the cross wall with that one.

ReubenJCogburn on December 7, 2007 at 4:36 PM

Prince Huckerdink! “Are you becoming a conservative?” “Republican voter, you know how much I love to pander to you, but I’ve got an tax to raise, an alien to amnesty, a NIE to ignore, and Mormons to frame for it. I’m swamped.”

Vanceone on December 7, 2007 at 4:36 PM

Start thinking? This sight has been covering Fred since before the beginning… um… you know what I mean…

Frozen Tex on December 7, 2007 at 4:28 PM

I’m looking on the front page right now and I see alot more Romney & Huckabee posts then Thompson.

Hotair should be promoting Thompson like CRAZY!

msipes on December 7, 2007 at 4:37 PM

Come on people, it was a joke, nothing more. Sifting through Huckabee’s record is fine, and should be done, but jumping on him for making a joke about being a preacher is ridiculous.

Complete7 on December 7, 2007 at 4:25 PM

Much truth is spoken in jest…

doriangrey on December 7, 2007 at 4:37 PM

What’s with the linebacker-sized shoulder pads in that bottom screen-shot? He looks like a kid wearing his dad’s suit. Is it just a skewed perspective because the image got stretched, or is his suit jacket really that wide?

aero on December 7, 2007 at 4:38 PM

shoulder pads or undersized head?

Limerick on December 7, 2007 at 4:40 PM

Not enough? Then tell me, what does he mean here when he asserts that Bush had the new NIE “for four years”?

Holy crap, what a numbskull.

Did everyone watch that whole video? Rudy is the one who looks old and tired and just kind of rambles on. Fred looked great and cut right through to the heart of it.

Is there any hope that he can turn it around? This Huck schmuck just has to end, and I really believe Fred could be THE man if he could just get some momentum going.

peski on December 7, 2007 at 4:40 PM

Hotair should be promoting Thompson like CRAZY!

msipes on December 7, 2007 at 4:37 PM

No, as much as I support Fred I believe the United States is much better served by having Allahpundit continue to throw all of the conservative candidates into the bloody shark filled waters.

doriangrey on December 7, 2007 at 4:40 PM

What’s with the linebacker-sized shoulder pads in that bottom screen-shot?

Playin’ Quarterback for God, aero.

BacaDog on December 7, 2007 at 4:41 PM

if that minister has personal character of King David,

doriangrey on December 7, 2007 at 4:31 PM

You might want to recheck the record.

peski on December 7, 2007 at 4:42 PM

Update: Good grief, does Huck know anything about anything other than God?

doriangrey on December 7, 2007 at 4:43 PM

What’s with the linebacker-sized shoulder pads in that bottom screen-shot?

aero on December 7, 2007 at 4:38 PM

Maybe he shops at the same place as David Byrne.

ReubenJCogburn on December 7, 2007 at 4:44 PM

Hotair should be promoting Thompson like CRAZY!

msipes on December 7, 2007 at 4:37 PM

To be fair, Allahpundit’s been very even with coverage of all the candidates. I don’t expect him to shill for any of them, and I’m a Fred guy.

I agree Fred needs more exposure in general, but here it’s really just preaching to the choir… er, damn… Another religious reference. Mike Huckabee, get out of my head! ;)

techno_barbarian on December 7, 2007 at 4:46 PM

what does he mean here when he asserts that Bush had the new NIE “for four years”?

Could he have meant four months?

Or did he misunderstand the estimate and see the “2003″ date and assume that the report was four years old? Methinks it’s the latter.

Mark Jaquith on December 7, 2007 at 4:47 PM

I’m looking on the front page right now and I see alot more Romney & Huckabee posts then Thompson.

Hotair should be promoting Thompson like CRAZY!

msipes on December 7, 2007 at 4:37 PM

I said cover, not promote.

No, as much as I support Fred I believe the United States is much better served by having Allahpundit continue to throw all of the conservative candidates into the bloody shark filled waters.

doriangrey on December 7, 2007 at 4:40 PM

Exactly. Let them sink or swim on their own, so to speak. Just make sure the voters have all the info laid out.

Frozen Tex on December 7, 2007 at 4:47 PM

To paraphrase Count Rugen: Good heavens, fiscal conservatives. Are you still trying to win?

1) Kudos for the reference.

2) I realized that I never paid attention or remembered what that character’s name was. I just called him the six fingered man.

Hawkins1701 on December 7, 2007 at 4:50 PM

So bow down to him, if you like! Bow down!

Oh, and Miracle Max? Fred’s campaign needs you.

TexasDan on December 7, 2007 at 4:51 PM

Wow, he really does not do anything to counter the non-serious-foreign-policy notion. Even if it was a gotcha question, he makes an excuse or a joke almost every time he’s asked. That, or he repeats some cliched talking point. He should be able to talk more at length about these important international issues, but I just don’t think it interests him. Domestic issues are his bread and butter and that’s all he cares to talk about.

CP on December 7, 2007 at 4:51 PM

Why are you smiling?
Because I know something you don’t know!

To be fair, Allahpundit’s been very even with coverage of all the candidates…

Allah’s not underhanded!

tree hugging sister on December 7, 2007 at 4:52 PM

“Good luck Huck!”
“Have fun storming the White House!”
“You think he’ll make it?”
“It’d take a miracle!”

Frozen Tex on December 7, 2007 at 4:53 PM

I wonder where csdeven’s been?

Zetterson on December 7, 2007 at 5:01 PM

I have a feeling his role is to keep Romney from getting the early states. Then Rudy takes off.

bnelson44 on December 7, 2007 at 4:34 PM

Not a bad theory. I liked Rush’s hypothesis that the media was fluffing him so that he could get the nomination, then the democrats could legitmately run against Bush in the the election (meaning that Huckabee is the most like Bush)

samuelrylander on December 7, 2007 at 5:01 PM

Hey guys. Post something else about Huckabee. That’d be awesome.

EduardoOTI on December 7, 2007 at 5:03 PM

Could he have meant four months?

Or did he misunderstand the estimate and see the “2003″ date and assume that the report was four years old? Methinks it’s the latter.

Mark Jaquith on December 7, 2007 at 4:47 PM

I think you are right, it just shows Huckabee’s weak campaign structure. All candidates have little quips that they use, but with Romney, Giuliani, and even McCain with the drunken sailor line, the quips are vetted and tested. Huckabee is winging it and failing.

Complete7 on December 7, 2007 at 5:04 PM

I wonder where csdeven’s been?

Zetterson on December 7, 2007 at 5:01 PM

I suspect that he got banned. He made some comments in a Jeri Thompson thread that were way over the line. I’ll see if I can find it.

ReubenJCogburn on December 7, 2007 at 5:08 PM

I’ll see if I can find it.

ReubenJCogburn on December 7, 2007 at 5:08 PM

Don’t hurry.

jaime on December 7, 2007 at 5:09 PM

Huckabee is worthless as a candidate. Why would any Republican even THINK about voting for a fiscal liberal like him?!?

davenp35 on December 7, 2007 at 5:14 PM

Don’t hurry.

jaime on December 7, 2007 at 5:09 PM

No one’s trying to force you to read it. But it’s inevitable that some people are going to be curious.

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/20/video-jeri-thompson-on-the-factor/

ReubenJCogburn on December 7, 2007 at 5:17 PM

Hey guys. Post something else about Huckabee. That’d be awesome.

EduardoOTI on December 7, 2007 at 5:03 PM

Hahaha! You don’t like it so much when your candidate starts getting treated like an upper tier candidate do you. The problem with Huckabee, though, is that there are so damn many wrong with him that it is going to take many more posts for some of us – ahem – who shall remain nameless to get the picture. Huckabee is a liberal. The Huckster = Bill Clinton + Jimmy Carter. That cannot be said enough.

Zetterson on December 7, 2007 at 5:19 PM

(said with best Inigo Montoya inflection)
Hello! My name is fiscal conservative…. you taxed my father, prepare to die!

mrfixit on December 7, 2007 at 5:20 PM

ReubenJCogburn on December 7, 2007 at 5:17 PM

Yeah, I’ve seen it. That’s why I’m saying don’t hurry to find out where he is.

I enjoy a spirited debate. csdeven was a distraction.

If I want that kind of conversation I’ll call my ex-wife.

jaime on December 7, 2007 at 5:26 PM

ReubenJCogburn on December 7, 2007 at 5:17 PM

Well it looks like he sure went down swinging. Yikes. Glad I wasn’t involved in that discussion. That conversation was about as civil as one between Israel and Hezbollah. And quite unnecessary I might add.

Zetterson on December 7, 2007 at 5:31 PM

ReubenJCogburn on December 7, 2007 at 5:17 PM

My bad. I thought you were going top try to find out where csdeven is, but you were only going to point out the cause. My apologies.

jaime on December 7, 2007 at 5:33 PM

jaime on December 7, 2007 at 5:26 PM

Ah, okay, I get you. I have no idea where he is either, but I think that thread explains why he’s not here. He wasn’t that bad away from politics, but you’d think Fred left him standing at the altar or something.

ReubenJCogburn on December 7, 2007 at 5:36 PM

Update: Amazing.

We deserve to lose.

Free Constitution on December 7, 2007 at 5:41 PM

It’s a freakin’ Presidential Election, not Sunday Service, Man! Cut it out, for all our sakes!

Frozen Tex on December 7, 2007 at 4:12 PM

As a devout Catholic “evangelical”, I couldn’t agree more. While no candidate should hide their faith, the pandering has gotten surreal. Mark my words, if Huck is the nominee (and no, I don’t think he has a chance), this will come back in a VERY negative way in the general. Discounting Ron Paul, Huck is our weakest candidate to go up against Clinton. AND HE NEVER TOOK ON THE CLINTON MACHINE!!!

edgehead on December 7, 2007 at 5:41 PM

Time to batten down the hatches and prepare for the storm.

The Huckster wins big in Iowa, loses narrowly in NH. Sweeps through SC and FL and then wipes the mat with Rudy on Super Tuesday.

Goes on to lose all but 8 states on election day and becomes the GOP Dukakis – a forgotten after thought in electoral politics.

rick moran on December 7, 2007 at 5:43 PM

rick moran on December 7, 2007 at 5:43 PM

You’re not suggesting Huckabee’s support is…gasp…limited, are you?

Slublog on December 7, 2007 at 5:45 PM

Heh.

I’m suggesting he be stopped – NOW. The Club for Growth is going to do their part. But when it comes to matters of faith versus matters of fiscal responsibility, I don’t trust the Christian right one bit.

He is an election day disaster just waiting to happen. He will drag the party to its worst defeat since 1964.

rick moran on December 7, 2007 at 5:51 PM

Time to batten down the hatches and prepare for the storm.

The Huckster wins big in Iowa, loses narrowly in NH. Sweeps through SC and FL and then wipes the mat with Rudy on Super Tuesday.

Goes on to lose all but 8 states on election day and becomes the GOP Dukakis – a forgotten after thought in electoral politics.

rick moran on December 7, 2007 at 5:43 PM

Give Mitt’s speech a chance to percolate…. say by this time next week.

bnelson44 on December 7, 2007 at 5:52 PM

But when it comes to matters of faith versus matters of fiscal responsibility, I don’t trust the Christian right one bit.

Neither do I. And I’m a Christian. I’m doing my part best I can, emailing the Club for Growth ad to light-Huckabee supporters I know.

I think the best thing we can do right now is support the Club for Growth. I’m going to send them a few bucks.

Slublog on December 7, 2007 at 5:53 PM

Goes on to lose all but 8 states on election day and becomes the GOP Dukakis – a forgotten after thought in electoral politics.

rick moran on December 7, 2007 at 5:43 PM

That’s what I’m afraid of. I don’t believe ANY of these polls though. Not at this point.
Oh, and who the **ll besides me is tired of Iowa and New Hamphire of all places (no disrespect intended) deciding who our nominees will be?

edgehead on December 7, 2007 at 6:00 PM

Neither do I. And I’m a Christian. I’m doing my part best I can, emailing the Club for Growth ad to light-Huckabee supporters I know.

I think the best thing we can do right now is support the Club for Growth. I’m going to send them a few bucks.

Slublog on December 7, 2007 at 5:53 PM

I’m a Christian, too. I wqant the government to be fiscally responsible, strong on defense and security (that includes the border) and leave the issues of faith and morality to the people to decide for themselves. Of course I like it if a leader can do all I want in a government AND provide leadership in the areas of morality and decency, but if it’s one or the other, then give me the former over the latter.

Frozen Tex on December 7, 2007 at 6:01 PM

I wouldn’t mind seeing a minister in the White House, if that minister has personal character of King David, but I certainly do not want a wishy washy feel good pseudo-socialist nanny-stater tax and spend wolf in sheep’s clothing liberal in conservative clothing in the White House.
doriangrey on December 7, 2007 at 4:31 PM

The personal character of King David? I assume you mean before he committed adultery with Bathsheba and sent her husband off to war to be killed. Otherwise I think we had enough immorality in the White House with Clinton.

I wonder what/who you can see from the roof of the White House?

Sebastian on December 7, 2007 at 6:05 PM

The Huckster wins big in Iowa, loses narrowly in NH. Sweeps through SC and FL and then wipes the mat with Rudy on Super Tuesday.

No he won’t. He doesn’t have a blimp.

The only winners in this campaign have blimps.

Vinnie on December 7, 2007 at 6:08 PM

“The Huckabee Colonoscopy”! It was due. I think they found some polyps!! :)

Wow, Those are some Big Polyps! One is the size of his head!

Oh wait! Governor, can you move your head please? :):)

Nelsa on December 7, 2007 at 6:09 PM

As a Christian Republican who prefers secular politics, it’s slightly amusing to see the GOP going nuts over this. I seem to remember something about reaping the whirlwind…

Big S on December 7, 2007 at 6:10 PM

The only winners in this campaign havewere blimps.

Vinnie on December 7, 2007 at 6:08 PM

Not that I’m one to talk…

Big S on December 7, 2007 at 6:10 PM

I was a Republican for 40 plus years, but went Independent in 2004 with Bush’s open borders fiesta.

I am even more proud now, watching the Republican religious pandering in Iowa – either voting for or against a candidate because “my unprovable beliefs are better than yours.”

Huck’s divine designation, and Mitt’s speech, are sucking too much of the bandwidth away from REAL issues, like this one.
Only Hunter has talked much about it, and he gets zero minutes in debates, filled with ‘pearls or diamonds’ planted crapola.

fred5678 on December 7, 2007 at 6:12 PM

rick moran on December 7, 2007 at 5:43 PM

Different scenario, same result:

Huck sweeps out of Iowa (to wipe Thompson out of the race), gets crushed by Romney in NH (don’t underestimate the homer/anti-evangelical vote; that also spells doom for McCain), and finishes off Romney in South Carolina. At that point, the media shines the laser on Huck, and the last man standing is the Anointed One, Giuliani.

There’s a reason why Giuliani pulled out of the 2000 NY Senate race, and it wasn’t his “health”.

steveegg on December 7, 2007 at 6:12 PM

Huckabee is worthless as a candidate. Why would any Republican even THINK about voting for a fiscal liberal like him?!?

Bush increases spending by 40% and you’re upset that Huckabee is a fiscal liberal? You’re just pissed that a man who lives a public life in Christ is also gaining popularitiy with his authentic charm. I suggest you do a bit of sould searching pal.

DrW on December 7, 2007 at 6:14 PM

If only McCain had a holocaust cloak, that would be something…

mikeyboss on December 7, 2007 at 6:14 PM

Why are you all worried about his fiscal and social policies?

What scares me is the fact that Huckabee has Chuck Norris.

As soon as Huck got Chuck, I switched to Independent so I’d have an excuse to sit out the primary.

Ain’t no way I’m ending up like those two guys on that Mt. Dew commercial.

Vinnie on December 7, 2007 at 6:21 PM

Newsweek is saying Huck is at 39% in their latest Iowa poll?!?! With Romney at 17% in second?! And McC over Rudy?

Something’s very wrong with this picture.

techno_barbarian on December 7, 2007 at 6:29 PM

This is making me sick.

Do we really only care if a candidate is a Christian? Huck is completely wrong on fiscal policy, the anti-conservative, but by golly, if he’s a Christian, he’s A-OK!

And the bigotry over Mormonism is really starting to turn me off. Mitt shouldn’t have had to give any speech on the subject, because it shouldn’t have been an issue.

The poll responders in Iowa casting for Huck really need to look at themselves in the mirror and ask why they are pulling for him, and what we as a party are becoming in all of this.

We’re willing to throw out conservatism all together on the economic front just because Huckabee is a devout Christian?

And we’re willing to demonize a candidate solely for his religion?

I hope those who are so rabidly supporting Huck will be pleased with what we get if he’s the nominee.

I’m all for Judeo-Christian traditional values, but not at the expense of everything fiscal conservatism stands for.

And a person’s religion should never be a litmus test for any public office. Only the ideals and values he or she espouses.

Hawkins1701 on December 7, 2007 at 6:31 PM

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