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Time: Why the Pentagon is happy about the NIE Update: Are we playing the Iranians’ paranoia against them?

posted at 11:27 am on December 6, 2007 by Bryan
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It’s not very strongly sourced, but it’s an interesting read.

The U.S. military contributes nine of the 16 intelligence agencies whose views are cobbled together in NIEs: the Counterintelligence Field Activity, the Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Agency, Army Intelligence, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Marine Corps Intelligence Activity, the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, the National Reconnaissance Office, the National Security Agency, and the Office of Naval Intelligence. Some critics have suggested that the military simply found a public way to quiet the drumbeat for war coming from Vice President Dick Cheney and his shrinking band of allies in the Administration.

There was no formal response from the Pentagon. It is evident, however, that the U.S. military, already strained by wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, has no appetite for a third war. That’s true even if a series of strikes against nuclear and other targets inside Iran were carried out by the Air Force and Navy, the two services who have sat, somewhat frustrated, on the sidelines as the Army and Marine Corps has done the heavy lifting in the two wars now under way. Some Pentagon officials welcomed the new NIE as evidence that the intelligence community is not tied to ideology, as some critics argued was true during the buildup to the Iraq war in 2003.

I may be an outlier on this, but I’ve tended to see the administration’s more alarming rhetoric on Iran as both a reflection of one faction’s thinking on the threat and a way to bring the Europeans along on the sanctions regime. I’ve never expected us to launch strikes on Iran, but their fear that we might has been very useful. The Europeans have tended all along to bring nothing but carrots to discussions of Iran’s nuclear program (which is now set in stone in the NIE as having existed and possibly still existing), and the Iranians have tended to treat that strategy with the contempt that it deserves. The US has had to play the bad cop to Europe’s good cop. This NIE, whatever else it does, leaves much room for the Europeans and especially the Russians and the Chinese to downplay or even dispute outright Iran’s nuclear weapons program. The Russians have wasted no time in doing the latter, so we have lost them on any Security Council action. The Chinese will be quieter but probably no less unhelpful. One or the other has probably moved into veto territory on the UNSC with regard to any future sanctions on Iran.

This NIE, whatever else it has done, has given the Iranians considerable breathing room that they’re likely to misuse. We’ve probably punted the Iran problem to the next administration, but that doesn’t mean that the threat is gone completely. Given the quality of past NIEs, it may not be gone at all.

Update: Hat tip to our commenters, here’s an interesting read from the Jerusalem Post.

The new US intelligence assessment which stated that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program four years ago was based mainly on notes acquired last summer from discussions between Iranian military officials, senior intelligence and government officials told The New York Times on Thursday.

The notes reportedly detailed conversations in which certain army officials complained about Iranian leaders’ 2003 decision to shut down efforts to develop nuclear weapons.

The notes gave no clue as to why Iran had decided to stop weapons development.

The information contained in the notes was supported by other intelligence, including conversations between Iranian officials which had been intercepted in recent months, the paper reported.

The sources quoted by the paper added that the Central Intelligence Agency and other agencies had looked into the possibility that the information obtained may have been part of an Iranian disinformation campaign, but eventually rejected that possibility.

We’re disclosing an interesting turn of events here, namely, that we have tapped communications at very high levels of the Iranian government. But we’re not disclosing whose communications have been compromised, or how they have been compromised. This opens the possibility that we have turned some very high level Iranian officials. Police state governments like Iran’s tend to engage in purges at the hint of betrayal. In this disclosure, we’re delivering a shout that betrayal may have happened within the mullahcracy’s crown jewel, its nuclear program.

This may bring out a few long knives in Iran, and whip up a spirit of paranoid mistrust among its senior leaders.

Which makes me smile.


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Given the quality of past NIEs, it may not be gone at all.

Read the NIE report the way Jon Bolton reads it and action might be even more closer to happening than it was prior to the NIE report coming out.

doriangrey on December 6, 2007 at 11:30 AM

This NIE, whatever else it has done, has given the Iranians considerable breathing room that they’re likely to misuse. We’ve probably punted the Iran problem to the next administration, but that doesn’t mean that the threat is gone completely. Given the quality of past NIEs, it may not be gone at all.

NIEs don’t get rid of a threat by pretending it isn’t there.

bnelson44 on December 6, 2007 at 11:33 AM

Check the Oil Future bidding of those involved in this NIE.

Because their conclusion reduces the “threat” from Iran and makes the fears of an attack, and subsequent jump in oil prices seriously diminish.

Ergo:

Bet on lower oil prices in the near term.

And who among th3e NIE folks DID?

profitsbeard on December 6, 2007 at 11:43 AM

Europe to Iran: “Come on, I really want to help you out here, really I do, but if you don’t give me something to work with soon, I won’t be able to hold him (gestures towards US) back anymore! C’mon, do you really want that?”

Frozen Tex on December 6, 2007 at 11:44 AM

This Nuclear Report was based on notes of Iranian officials. Jerusalem Post short article

abinitioadinfinitum on December 6, 2007 at 11:56 AM

I guess our idiot country is waiting to get nuked before it does a f’ing thing.

*disillusionment*

VinceP1974 on December 6, 2007 at 12:22 PM

“Police state governments like Iran’s tend to engage in purges at the hint of betrayal.”

The thought of Iran killing its own loyal islamofascist extemists out of paranoia makes me smile :-)

Tony737 on December 6, 2007 at 12:26 PM

Tony737 on December 6, 2007 at 12:26 PM

You should’ve seen the grin that crept across my face when this possibility dawned on me.

Bryan on December 6, 2007 at 12:33 PM

“Police state governments like Iran’s tend to engage in purges at the hint of betrayal.”

The thought of Iran killing its own loyal islamofascist extemists out of paranoia makes me smile :-)

Tony737 on December 6, 2007 at 12:26 PM

“But, but, but… I serve Allah! I mean, I serve Iran! I mean, I mean, I serve you… wait! Wait! Nooo…!”

BANG

“Send in the next traitor…”

Frozen Tex on December 6, 2007 at 12:37 PM

I don’t see the Air Force brass going along with a plan by anyone, given the nature of it being the most politicized and outspoken. Besides the usage of F-22 and other weapon systems, the AF would be in a better position to scream for more money after the shift to the land-based components in the last several years.

Either the report was fudged by leftist politics in the final stage (as Bolton claims) or it could be a double-blind, seeing which rabbit hole the Iranians pop out of.

TheEJS on December 6, 2007 at 12:53 PM

We’re disclosing an interesting turn of events here, namely, that we have tapped communications at very high levels of the Iranian government. But we’re not disclosing whose communications have been compromised, or how they have been compromised. This opens the possibility that we have turned some very high level Iranian officials.

More likely we are being played for suckers as part of an Iranian disinformation scheme, which, it must be added, would not be the first time that Iranian intelligence has played us for suckers.

Lehuster on December 6, 2007 at 1:22 PM

This NIE report is also cofusing the hell out of the Russians and the Chinese. They may interpret this NIE as a huge shift in strategy and will scramble to re-evaluate our previous actions as possible slight of hand mis-direction.

Egfrow on December 6, 2007 at 1:24 PM

Lehuster on December 6, 2007 at 1:22 PM

Possibly, Remember the Iranians invented chess.

abinitioadinfinitum on December 6, 2007 at 1:25 PM

“It is evident, however, that the U.S. military, already strained by wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, has no appetite for a third war.”

Congress is making sure the military doesn’t have the money to any additional strikes.

crosspatch on December 6, 2007 at 1:26 PM

“Send in the next traitor.” – Tex

The visual you’ve created in my mind takes me to my Happy Place. Thank you Tex, you’re quickly becoming my favorite HotHead!

Tony737 on December 6, 2007 at 1:48 PM

I am cynical enough to wonder if these high ranking Iranians aren’t just planting information to hide a real Iranian nuke program. Now that they have hoodwinked the west, they can continue building a nuke without any fears. And if anyone acts against them they will have the world media on their side.

Wyrd on December 6, 2007 at 1:48 PM

Interesting post, but I’m not as rosy on the American intel efforts. I don’t think you turned anyone high up in the Iranian administration & frankly the religious aspect of the society leaves me very skeptical any big fish (if you are a big fish in Iran, you’re a hardcore Muslim) will be caught in the future.

I think NSA just snatched some keywords on all the electronic buzz over Iran, and managed to snag audio of a conversation or two, like a cell conversation by that scientist mentioned. If there was a source, I don’t think the NIE would contain the much milder ‘moderate’ assessment of whether the program has re-started.

Further, if this mostly came from notes & an audio conversation of a single technician or scientist that isn’t heading up the covert programs I think the Iranians are laughing right now, because the chances of a medium or even senior scientist knowing anything beyond the 4 walls around him is near zero in a regime like this. The Republican Guards run the covert programs, it’s not Berkley you know what I mean?

I guess I won’t mince words, I think the US intel sucks.

saus on December 6, 2007 at 1:58 PM

Tony737 on December 6, 2007 at 1:48 PM

Glad to be of service.

Frozen Tex on December 6, 2007 at 1:58 PM

Maybe some of you give the “republican guards” too much credit. As always the enemy is looked upon as the professionals, and our guys are incompetent. We can play games as good as anyone else, hell we invented most of em. do you really think our government is telling you everything? Please.

gator70 on December 6, 2007 at 2:50 PM

This opens the possibility that we have turned some very high level Iranian officials. Police state governments like Iran’s tend to engage in purges at the hint of betrayal.

An interesting observation in light of the defection of Gen. Ashgari to the US. Now we believe that Iran shut down their program. At least the General’s family is safe: in Teheran. Why would a defector leave his wife and kids? Interesting observation, indeed.

HerrMorgenholz on December 6, 2007 at 2:54 PM

gator70 on December 6, 2007 at 2:50 PM

I hope our government is not telling everything but when you put out a report like this that has the Democrats celebrating that Bush is wrong and Iran is not our enemy and can be trusted and we should talk to them ect, ect…
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It looks to me like it only ties the hands of our military from taking action that may be much needed.
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If that is a big illusion that our intelligence is putting over on Iran, I’m all for it. But I have big doubts.

abinitioadinfinitum on December 6, 2007 at 3:04 PM

I go with

Lehuster on December 6, 2007 at 1:22 PM

Some of the other points of view are equally valid; you really can’t know until after the fact. So it is best to prepare for the worst, and hope for the best…

Anyone here remember the UK/BBC movie/TV series “Smiley’s People”? I tried to watch it but couldn’t keep up with who was doing what to whom.

Same thing with this NIE.

rockhauler on December 6, 2007 at 3:10 PM

do you really think our government is telling you everything? Please.

Which government would that be? The one I got to vote for, or the one that controls the media and the CIA, and works on behalf of international leftism and/or the Democrat party? The legitimate US government might lie to me to fool our enemies, but the illegitinate one that has defacto power right now will lie to fool me and leak our enemies the truth. Our defacto government in hiding had better be turfed out before something terrible happens, and people decide to turf it for themselves.

drunyan8315 on December 6, 2007 at 6:57 PM

You should’ve seen the grin that crept across my face when this possibility dawned on me.

Bryan on December 6, 2007 at 12:33 PM

Indeed. You should see my grin, knowing how little anyone, outside of those who should, will ever know. This is Big, as Mr.Been says.

Entelechy on December 6, 2007 at 9:04 PM

Security Council action

This description helps sustain opinions among the Americans that the group really have anything to do with security and that they do meaningful work. If one uses such a false description, it seems good to mark the falsities:

“Security” Council “action”

Kralizec on December 6, 2007 at 9:23 PM

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