Comments on: Open thread: Gov. Mitt Romney’s “Faith in America” speech

By: 929c3f0309fee82cda7c

929c3f0309fee82cda7c — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 13:40:39 +0000

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By: canopfor

canopfor — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 04:40:03 +0000

Well I’m glad everybody is starting to see the light on
Mitt Romney,and he certainly is not what the Lib media
is trying to portray,for that matter,it really doesn’t
matter even if a Republican nominee has a faith,because
the media will assign him or her one anyway.
The Liberal Democrats,and the Lib drive-by media have
no fear when it comes to islamofachists,but boy O boy,
their scared to death of a Republican who has faith!

By: CliffHanger

CliffHanger — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:45:39 +0000

I just listened to Romney’s speech. Very solid.

Yeah, I could vote for this guy. Good job, Mitt!

Thank you to Bryan and Hot Air for making this available and keeping it up on your front page.

By: Buy Danish

Buy Danish — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:01:11 +0000

The comingling of government with religion does credit to neither.

thejackal on December 7, 2007 at 12:34 PM

Good, then you should be happy with Mitt Romney.

Sheesh.

By: thejackal

thejackal — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:34:15 +0000

Believe whatever religion you like, but our country as a whole cannot endure policy driven by religious doctrine. If we are to tolerate and/or embrace all faiths, then any president who takes his/her cues from the Book of Mormon is no different from a president who takes his/her cues from the Koran, Bible, Torah, or any other text. I have no problems whatsoever with a devout president, but as a person of my own beliefs, I resent a national leader who rules my nation by a different set. In this regard, I would oppose a president with similar beliefs to my own who makes policy according to those beliefs. Presidents who bring their religious beliefs into the Oval Office only lend an air of schizophrenia to our nation’s character.

The comingling of government with religion does credit to neither.

By: Mojave Mark

Mojave Mark — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 07:00:17 +0000

“Mitt fails to solve Morman problem”.

Only the Bible can do that.

By: Hawkins1701

Hawkins1701 — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:11:44 +0000

Great speech.

I especially liked that he didn’t shy away from using the words “Islamic” and “jihad” together. And the line about the jihadists killing Christians, Jews, and Muslims with equal indifference. The Sudanese, as we know, are slaughtering fellow Muslims en masse in Darfur. And Muslims are killed practically every time a terror attack happens.

It was wonderful to see someone join Newt Gingrich and Bill O’ Reilly in addressing the secular campaign to remove all religion from the public square, in the name of “separation of church and state”.

Time will tell if it has staying power among the pantheon of classic speeches, but so far, so good.

There’s one way I know for sure it succeeded.

My local liberal newspaper wrote in the headline “Mitt fails to solve Morman problem”.

That’s all needed to hear to know it was a home run.

By: Centerfire

Centerfire — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:01:07 +0000

What exactly did Mitt Romney say in his speech that he might disavow at some point?

It’s not a question of what he might disavow. It’s a question of what he actually believes. And for all that I’m convinced that the essential difference between Mitt and a bag of crap is the bag, he’s not stupid enough to actually believe kumbayah nonsense like, for instance:

“Each religion has its own unique doctrines and history. These are not bases for criticism but rather a test of our tolerance.”

Fundamentalist Islam, anyone? Scientology? Flying Spaghetti Monsterism? That someone describes their zany beliefs as a religion doesn’t magically delegitimize criticism of that person or their beliefs.

By: Resolute

Resolute — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 00:02:22 +0000

Hillary: I’m just a girl don’t pick on me!
Obama: It is time this racist country elected a black man
Huckabee: I’m the christian candidate
Guiliani: the secular economic concervative
Romney: Personal background should not divides us

winner ding! ding! ding! Romney
I dare say you are not conservative, you belong in the Democrat party if dont agree

By: SouthernGent

SouthernGent — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:14:09 +0000

I’m sorry, but it’s so sad he even has to do this speech at all. I thought it was excellent and went beyond expectations. As an agnostic, it didn’t scare me at all.

By: Speakup

Speakup — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:34:43 +0000

Sounds like a good T shirt. Stand back everybody while I swallow some yeast poop.

By: Speakup

Speakup — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:32:36 +0000

I’ll bet my fiance would love some chocolate wine.

Frozen Tex on December 6, 2007 at 1:07 PM

The chocolate flavor would have to be infused after the wine was finished or the cocoa oil wouldn’t do anything to happify the little yeastie beasties running around like tiny pac men gobbling up the sugars and pooping alcohol.

By: Buy Danish

Buy Danish — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:03:31 +0000

I think he’s a self-serving weasel who’ll say anything to get elected, and I think the speech was just another example of that.

Centerfire on December 6, 2007 at 3:29 PM

You know, ordinarily when charges are made that someone will “say anything to get elected” that means that they have uttered something that is insincerely held or subject to the whims of polls or popular opinion.

What exactly did Mitt Romney say in his speech that he might disavow at some point?

Centerfire on December 6, 2007 at 3:37 PM

Yeah, well you’ll have to put the Maha Rushie in that kool aid category.

By: Centerfire

Centerfire — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:37:37 +0000

Headline: “Romney gives speech on religion.”

BKennedy: *guzzles koolaid*

By: BKennedy

BKennedy — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:36:39 +0000

The guy I was responding to said that he thought Romney was sincere on issues of morals, religion, freedom, and the Constitution. I don’t; I think he’s a self-serving weasel who’ll say anything to get elected, and I think the speech was just another example of that.

Centerfire on December 6, 2007 at 3:29 PM

Headline: “Romney turns water into wine.”

Centerfire spin: “Romney is just buying people off with booze.”

By: Centerfire

Centerfire — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:29:30 +0000

BacaDog on December 6, 2007 at 3:19 PM

The guy I was responding to said that he thought Romney was sincere on issues of morals, religion, freedom, and the Constitution. I don’t; I think he’s a self-serving weasel who’ll say anything to get elected, and I think the speech was just another example of that.

By: BacaDog

BacaDog — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:19:24 +0000

I see nothing to convince me it’s not entirely self-serving.

Centerfire on December 6, 2007 at 3:10 PM

Of course his speech was self-serving. So was JFK’s in 1960.

Like JFK, Mitt’s religion is a barrier to the Presidency. To get there, clarification is needed. Mitt spoke to that today, and IMHO did a pretty good job.

A means to an end. Otherwise, why stir the pot?

By: Centerfire

Centerfire — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:10:29 +0000

I believe Mitt is sincere about these things.

Speakup on December 6, 2007 at 1:04 PM

I don’t.

Historically Mitt’s been a poll-driven flip-flopper given to saying whatever his advisers think will attract the greatest number of votes in any given circumstance. It takes less than five minutes to Google up example after example of the man’s allegedly-core principles “evolving” from his senatorial race against Ted Kennedy in 1992 to his stint as Massachusetts governor to his presidential campaign today.

I think he and his advisers realize that the Mormon thing is the mayonnaise on the enormous crap sandwich that is Mitt Romney, and so now he’s trying to inoculate his campaign against the issue by, essentially, trying to convince the electorate that criticism of Mitt relative to his Mormonism is tantamount to imposition of a religious test for the presidency, contrary to some basic American ethic. I see nothing to convince me it’s not entirely self-serving.

By: the goddess anna

the goddess anna — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:03:18 +0000

The speech was well-written – I’ll give the praise to his speechwriter(s). I still won’t vote for Romney. I’m honest when I say I’m slightly creeped out by Mormons. I served with several in the Navy, and the ones that were devout always had a cultish vibe to them. I am human enough to admit that there are superficial things that influence my political opinions of people, and in Mitt’s case, it’s his religion. I don’t like Huckabee either, partially because he defines himself so prominently by his religion. I don’t think I’m the only one that feels that way (although maybe I’m the only one naive enough to admit it).

Of course, I have other reasons for not wanting to vote for either one of them… oh well.

By: MB4

MB4 — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:58:15 +0000

Enrique: If your argument is now that belief in God is as reprehensible as owning slaves…. then yeah,

Vanceone on December 6, 2007 at 1:49 PM

Speak to that Enrique.

Don’t either you or Vanceone let anyone else define you beliefs.

By: edgehead

edgehead — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:55:35 +0000

“The Speech” was inspiring and uplifting. It needed to be said and was beautifully delivered. The speaker though, did not write it and delivered it solely for the purpose of political expediancy. Everything Mitt says and does is done for the purpose of political expediancy (recent ex. throwing Larry Craig under the bus).
Beware the neo-compassionate conservative!

By: Vanceone

Vanceone — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:49:45 +0000

Enrique: If your argument is now that belief in God is as reprehensible as owning slaves…. then yeah, I’d say that fighting your version of secularism is something that should happen. After all, they outlawed slavery–I could totally see you arguing that we should outlaw religion too.

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Romney’s “Faith in America” speech — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:49:11 +0000

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By: thomashton

thomashton — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:48:36 +0000

coq au vin

There. I just had to settle that. It was bugging me. And, as a Mormon and a chef, I have no problem with it . . . when cooked properly. I just don’t take a swig off the bottle like a lot of other cooks do.

By: Defense Guy

Defense Guy — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:48:28 +0000

“Sunday in New York is rigorously observed. I have seen streets barred off in front of churches during the divine service. The law commands these things imperiously and public opinion, which is much stronger than the law, obliges everyone to show himself at church and to abstain from all diversion. And yet, I am much mistaken or there is a great depth of doubt and indifference hidden under these external forms. No political passion mixes in with their religion as it does with us in France. But for all that, religion has no more power. The very strong impulsion which was given to the Americans in former times and which is now diminishing every day – faith – is evidently inert. Go to the churches . and you will hear morality preached. Of dogma, [the preacher] says not a word. Nothing which can at all shock the neighbor; nothing which can arouse the idea of dissent.”

Alexis de Tocqueville – 1831