Good news: Iraqi officers go AWOL in the US

posted at 9:53 pm on December 6, 2007 by Bryan

About a dozen of them, here in the US for training. Two ways to look at this. They’re basically good guys who just don’t want to go back to Iraq, to their families and to the country that we’re hoping they help us put back together. Or they’re basically bad guys who are and have always been up to no good, and have fooled our system to the extent that they got here to get trained, and then went on the lam.

So, basically, either way you look at it, it’s not the best of news.

Intelligence officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity, say nearly a dozen Iraqis fled military training facilities in the U.S., including a brigadier general who went to Canada with his family earlier this year.

Army officials yesterday confirmed that five Iraqi military personnel whom the Army had been training disappeared between 2005 and 2007. They did not know how many other Iraqis sponsored by the Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy may have done the same.

“Nothing that this command is aware of would suggest that any of those students who departed from their training or returned back to Iraq pose any threat to the United States,” said Harvey Perritt, civilian spokesman for U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC), which oversees all the schools the Army has in the continental U.S.

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Good news: Iraqi officers go AWOL in the US

I read that and thought “Good news? How can that be good news?” Then I read more.

Ah. Sarcasm.

No, it doesn’t sound like good news to me at all. I’m wondering who was here waiting for them when they got off the plane.

Bob's Kid on December 6, 2007 at 9:59 PM

Bush and Chertoff just do not care period. They are crazy.

pat on December 6, 2007 at 9:59 PM

They will turn up sooner or later. Too bad they didn’t complete their training. Their country needs them. I guess not everyone is cut out to be a hero.

Zorro on December 6, 2007 at 10:03 PM

Hey even Iraqis aren’t willing to fight this illegal, unjust occupation

ColdBore76 on December 6, 2007 at 10:06 PM

just kidding

ColdBore76 on December 6, 2007 at 10:07 PM

I feel for them but this is the sort of thing that is going to make it harder to get the Iraqis back on their feet. The people of Iraq need to know that they won’t be abandoned by their own when the US really starts to draw down.

TBinSTL on December 6, 2007 at 10:09 PM

Years ago (like 1988) I watched four Brooke and Garcia class frigates go through the process of being “loaned” by the US Navy to Pakistan. They had all these same problems back then. Desertions, theft, etc.

My point here is that some of this may be a “cultural thing” more than the good guy/bad guy analogy. Just something to consider.

highhopes on December 6, 2007 at 10:12 PM

So if these guys hole up in one of the sanctuary cities and/or in a mosque, can they be arrested?

baldilocks on December 6, 2007 at 10:16 PM

They’re at Dunkin’ Donuts.

roninacreage on December 6, 2007 at 10:21 PM

Ah. Sarcasm.
Bob’s Kid on December 6, 2007 at 9:59 PM

Stick around. After a short while, this sort of thing becomes apparent almost instantaneously.

awake on December 6, 2007 at 10:31 PM

I think it would be safe to say as for the ones seeking asylem, that they don’t view America to be such a horrible Country as many on the left would try to make our Great Country look?

abinitioadinfinitum on December 6, 2007 at 10:53 PM

Not trying to downplay the seriousness of it…but if I’m a fella from some 3rd world hell hole, come here, and observe 1. How good it all is, and 2. The illegals EVERYWHERE getting their share of the pot-o-gold…..what am I going to think? Disappear, stay long enough, pretty soon you get invited to join one of the Parties.

Limerick on December 6, 2007 at 10:53 PM

asylem = asylum

abinitioadinfinitum on December 6, 2007 at 10:54 PM

We are wasting our time training forces from other countries. Training with other countries is OK.

draeknet on December 6, 2007 at 10:58 PM

Army officials yesterday confirmed that five Iraqi military personnel whom the Army had been training disappeared between 2005 and 2007. They did not know how many other Iraqis sponsored by the Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy may have done the same.

Judging by their actions, it appears they are quite willing to take the risk of living in the USA as “undocumented” residents. Maybe they are hoping for another amnesty. After all, there have been 7 amnesties given to undocumented “residents” since 1986.

Not all of the illegal aliens come to the USA via the open and porous borders.

Many illegal aliens simply over-stay their visas, because they know they can count on another amnesty.

ColtsFan on December 6, 2007 at 11:00 PM

They’re at Dunkin’ Donuts.

roninacreage on December 6, 2007 at 10:21 PM

HaHa. Good one.

They could also be working at 7/11′s in Delaware.

fogw on December 6, 2007 at 11:01 PM

Not a well-phrased statement from TRADOC spokesman:

“Nothing that this command is aware of would suggest that any of those students who departed from their training or returned back to Iraq pose any threat to the United States.”

There are in fact many ways to suggest that these Iraqi dudes are a threat to the US. I would send a detachment of MP’s after them.

Mike D. on December 6, 2007 at 11:02 PM

Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee… has yet to receive definitive answers to questions he sent to Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff in December 2006. He asked who the Iraqi military and law-enforcement officials are, whether an investigation was being conducted and how many Iraqi nationals have fled from military installations in the U.S., according to documents obtained by The Times.

So, Sec Chertoff. It has been a year. What’s your answer, Sec Chertoff?

RushBaby on December 6, 2007 at 11:20 PM

They could also be working at 7/11’s in Delaware.

Someone alert Joe Biden! He’s gonna have to rent some more language tapes to keep up when he gets his morning coffee!

ShoreMark on December 7, 2007 at 12:01 AM

Did they not take an oath? There dereliction should mean the gallows.

TheSitRep on December 7, 2007 at 12:12 AM

Wait a minute,are we sure there not on R&R,
very simple test,if they have cell phones,
and one of them calls Iran,that would be a red
flag,if they have no cell phones,then revert
back to the top,and go with the rest and relaxation
theory,wait again,see if any action is being monitored
on ECHLON within the next 24 hours.

canopfor on December 7, 2007 at 12:15 AM

eh. I think maybe, just maybe, that this is a big-to-do over nothing in the greater sense of things. About a dozen trainees over a 2 year period out of what? Hundreds? Thousands? I wouldn’t be surprised if our own desertion rate isn’t much better.

I understand that these are Islamic trainees who, just by their belief in the idiocy that is Islam, makes them dangerous because of their possible intentions. I would think however that those that have been missing for over 2 years would have already done something if that had been their plan.

I agree with those who have posted above that these folks saw the awesomeness that is America and just couldn’t leave. I can’t really say that I blame them.

Guardian on December 7, 2007 at 12:34 AM

Good news: Iraqi officers demonstrate that they are not S-T-U-P-I-D anyway.

MB4 on December 7, 2007 at 12:39 AM

How the hell did they get off the closed bases where any such training should only be done?

Or, better, do it in Kuwait.

(I’ll bet they’re mowing Mitt Romney’s lawn by this weekend. “Magic Carpet Landscaping“.)

profitsbeard on December 7, 2007 at 12:40 AM

If you think the Iraqi’s are a problem then what about the 10,000 Saudi students comming to US Universities?

Egfrow on December 7, 2007 at 1:27 AM

I don’t think they are up to no good.
I think they are just cowards.
There are many men in arab/persian lands that seem to be quite Cowardly.
no surprise that some would scare and run
Don’t worry little men…Americans are over there doing the jobs that you won’t do.
and Godspeed to them~~

bridgetown on December 7, 2007 at 8:19 AM

At this point it is just a matter of time until the Dems or Repubs give all the illegals amnesty and then they will be home free. I have friends from Venezuela who are coming for an extended stay figuring the same thing

400lb Gorilla on December 7, 2007 at 8:53 AM

I really hope that they know where these guys are at and they are simply watching them to see what comes of it. If not and some thing does happen and no one was watching these guys, the back lash will be monumental.

KCtheKat on December 7, 2007 at 10:25 AM