tommylotto on December 5, 2007 at 7:50 PM

Yawn. Was our resident ambulance-chaser barking again?

Down, boy! Down, boy. You couldn’t drive one if you caught it!

Fred’s Conservative principles, those rock solid principles led him to chase toothless banjo playing moonshiners…

tommylotto on December 5, 2007 at 4:15 PM

Oh, so it’s personal.

right2bright on December 5, 2007 at 5:53 PM

Okay. You didn’t like the source of that article but how about the facts reported in the article. You were mum on that. Here are just a few of Fred’s open boarders votes.

2000: Voted for S.2045, a foreign worker bill with no worker protections. Sen. Thompson voted for the Abraham foreign worker bill to nearly triple the number of foreign high-tech workers. Despite a GAO report finding no evidence of a worker shortage and suggesting fraud in the H-1B program, Rep. Thompson voted for this bill that included no worker protections or anti-fraud measures. 
1996: Voted in committee for the Abraham amendment to S.1664. The Abraham amendment to S.1664 stripped all legal reforms from the bill. The legal reforms would have lowered the annual cap on skilled-worker visas and eliminated the category for unskilled workers. S.1664 would have reduced overall legal immigration by about 2.1 million over a ten-year period. The amendment passed. 
1998: S.1723, Voted against the American worker in committee. Rep. Thompson stood solidy against American workers by opposing a Feinstein amendment to S.1723 to reduce the H1B increase from 5 years to 3. The amendment failed by 2 votes.
1998: Voted in committee against American workers. The Kennedy-Feinstein Amendment to S.1723 would have accomplished two important goals: ensuring no American was laid off or displaced prior to hiring an H1B employee; and, requiring that employers demonstrate they had previously taken timely and effective steps to hire a qualified American. 10 Senators helped defeat this amendment.
1998: Voted against offering jobs to Americans first. Rep. Thompson voted against the Kennedy amendment(A-2417) to S.1723 that would have required U.S. firms applying for H-1B visas to check a box on a form attesting that they had first sought an American worker for the job. The amendment failed 39-59. 
1998: S.1723, Voted to allow American workers to be fired and repalced with a foreign worker. Rep. Thompson voted against the Kennedy Amendment (A-2418) to S.1723 that would have protected American workers from being fired and replaced by a foreign worker (H-1B visa holder). The amendment was defeated 38-60.
1998: Voted against protecting American workers. Rep. Thompson was part of the majority in the Senate Judiciary Committee that voted to send S.1723 to the floor of the Senate without safeguards for American workers.  
1998: Voted for S.1723, nearly doubling hi-tech visas. Rep. Thompson helped the Senate pass S.1723 in a 78-20 vote. Enacted into law, it increased by nearly 150,000 the number of foreign workers high-tech American companies could hire over the next three years even though U.S. firms were laying off thousands of workers at the time. 
1997: Voted for an amnesty to illegal aliens from Nicaragua and Cuba. Sen. Thompson voted for a procedural move that helped allow the Mack Amendment to be included in S.1156 (the District of Columbia Appropriations bill). This amendment granted amnesty to illegal aliens from Nicaragua and Cuba and is expected to add close to one million people to U.S. population. 
1996: Voted in committee for the Abraham amendment to S.1664. The Abraham amendment to S.1664 stripped all legal reforms from the bill. The legal reforms would have limited annual refugee admissions to 50,000, as recommended by the Jordan Commission. S.1664 would have reduced overall legal immigration by about 2.1 million over a ten-year period. The amendment passed.
1996: Voted in favor of the immigration lottery Sen. Thompson voted against the Feinstein Amendment to S 1664 that would have eliminated the immigration lottery and significantly reduced chain migration. The Feinstein Amendment was defeated by a vote of 74 to 26.
1996: Voted in committee for the Abraham amendment to S.1664. The Abraham amendment to S.1664 stripped all legal reforms from the bill. The legal reforms would have eliminated lottery visas. S.1664 would have reduced overall legal immigration by about 2.1 million over a ten-year period. The amendment passed.
1996: Voted against the Simpson Amendment to S.1664 to reduce the immigration lottery. The Simpson amendment to S.1664 would have reduced the annual number of visas allocated to the lottery category from 55,000 to 27,000. The amendment failed by 80-20 on the Senate floor. 
1996: Voted in favor of chain migration Sen. Thompson voted against the Feinstein Amendment to S 1664 that would have significantly reduced chain migration by lowering annual admissions of spouses and minor children of citizens to 480,000 a year. The Feinstein Amendment was defeated by a vote of 74 to 26. 
1996: Voted in committee for the Abraham amendment to S.1664. The Abraham amendment to S.1664 stripped all legal reforms from the bill. The legal reforms would have greatly reduced chain migration by eliminating several extended-family categories. S.1664 would have reduced overall legal immigration by about 2.1 million over a ten-year period. The Abraham amendment passed. 
1996: Voted against the Simpson Amendment to S.1664 to end chain migration. The Simpson Amendment to S.1664 would have ended chain migration which the Census Bureau projects will double the U.S. population again in the next century. The Senate voted 80-20 to kill the reform. 
1996: Voted in committee in favor of the Hatch Amendment to S. 1664 to reduce fines against employers who hire illegal aliens Sen. Thompson voted as part of the Senate Judiciary Committee in favor of the Hatch Amendment to S. 1664. The Hatch Amendment stripped the provision from S. 1664 that increased fines against businesses that hire illegal aliens, thus making it less attractive for businesses to hire illegal aliens. The Hatch Amendment passed by a vote of 9-8.
1996: Voted in favor of the Abraham Amendment to S. 1644, a vote against of increased interior enforcement Sen. Thompson voted in favor of the Abraham Amendment to strip the voluntary workplace verification program from S. 1644. Workplace verification programs help reduce illegal immigration by withdrawing the job magnet from illegal aliens. The Abraham Amendment failed by a vote of 54-46. 

Look at how many were for his crony Abraham. Just the facts. If he is the only consistent conservative with rock solid principles that we can trust to enforce the immigration laws, WE ARE DOOMED.

Everyone keeps trotting out Rudy’s comments where he went a little over board in pandering to the huge illegal population that NYC was stuck with because of the feds failure to control the border. However, the liberals see through that and see the real Rudy. Check out this old NYC article quoting Sharpton:

The Rev. Al Sharpton attacked Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani’s record on immigration issues yesterday, calling it ”reactionary and repulsive.” Mr. Sharpton said Mr. Giuliani’s actions as an Assistant Attorney General a decade ago, when he fought to hold Haitian refugees in detention camps, belied his recent efforts to present himself as a friend of immigrants.

”Rudolph Giuliani sat in President Ronald Reagan’s Justice Department fighting against Haitians,” Mr. Sharpton, a Democratic Mayoral candidate, said in a speech released in New York City and delivered last night at a celebration in Bridgetown, Barbados.

”Rudy Giuliani’s track record on immigrant issues is reactionary and repulsive,” he said.

”He comes now in an election year posing as a friend to immigrants, but his record speaks volumes to the contrary,” he said….

Mr. Giuliani declined comment on Mr. Sharpton’s remarks. ”The Mayor does not respond to Mr. Sharpton,” said the Mayor’s campaign spokesman, Sunny Mindel.

Now that sounds like someone you can trust on immigration. Reagan administration. Illegal Haitians in concentration camps. NYT runs smear jobs on him. Sharpton hates him. He ignores Sharpton. What’s not to like.

Fred speaks to me on many levels.

I like the smell of what he’s cookin’.

TheSitRep on December 5, 2007 at 4:27 PM

But it’s always on simmer. I need a rolling boil or some steam…something more?!?!?

It’s pretty gutsy of Romney to address religion tomorrow. I’ll be watching that more closely than I’ve watched any of the debates. I expect a good performance from Romney, maybe even historic. We’ll see.

Based on what I know as of this writing and not just based on what’s in this post, I would be comfortable with Mitt Romney as President. I would also be comfortable with Fred Thompson as President. Both of them and several of the other GOP candidates are head and shoulders above all of the Democrats.

Yup, couldn’t agree more.

There are still about 15% undecided Republican voters in Iowa. And remember these results from November 2003
Not Sure 34%
Howard Dean 15
Wesley Clark 10
Dick Gephardt 9
Joe Lieberman 9
John Kerry 7
Al Sharpton 4
John Edwards 3
Dennis Kucinich 2
Carol Moseley Braun 2
Other 6

tommylotto on December 5, 2007 at 5:28 PM

Hey good Google search, how long did it take you to find that one article?
Here try this information, the man who wrote the article, does this sound like a man you put your faith in?
Stephen Dinan’s
The guys you did up to diss Thompson…you should be ashamed.
Here’s a good quote from him, for those who don’t want to look at his own site (but you have to read it):

I see it as a moral obligation for all citizens of America to ensure that the Republican Party breaks the spiral of power intoxication, ethical decay, and arrogance that is leading it far away from the healthy expression of conservative values.

Can’t miss this:

Two months ago, after a fundraiser for Mayor Gavin Newsom of San Francisco, I woke up with a crystal clear vision for how San Francisco could again provide a platform for the leading edge of our culture: a Summer of Peace in which the best practices, organizations, and leaders from around the world are focused on transforming the roots of violence in the society as a whole.

Gee, I wonder why he wrote that article?…if he is against Thompson, I am for Thompson.

Based on what I know as of this writing and not just based on what’s in this post, I would be comfortable with Mitt Romney as President. I would also be comfortable with Fred Thompson as President. Both of them and several of the other GOP candidates (Not to include Rudycapocorrupto and The High Reverend Hucksterocchio.) are head and shoulders above all of the Democrats.

Agreed.

Where is the Chucklebee on Iran and the NIE? Duh.

When asked about it earlier today, he didn’t know what it was…

But since this thread is about two of the others I like, I’m glad to see them taking more solid stances on these issues.

It’s sad that in the USA Mitt’s religion has taken so much from his substance. If you really look at all of his accomplishments juxtaposed with those of the other candidates Romney is a clear leader.

Fred sounds great, he’ll resonate with many voters. I just don’t know how much of it is acting. I’ll never forget how he let John Glenn sneak by during the Clinton years. I hope he’s clever enough to avoid any end-runs like that with our enemies if he wins the nomination.

Thanks for the positive post, Bryan!

Syria tells us ALL we need to know. Need a bomb spec, buy one – No Korea, China, Russia, France.

Making a nuke is EASY. In the history of man NO NUKE HAS EVER FAILED (not withstanding No Korea’s less than spectacular performance – it did work).

I am tired of all of the disinformation designed to limit our concern – when events so clearly show what is going on.

So Iran stopped research. Duh. They were done.

But the President has to run a multi-trillion dollar a year organization with millions of employess, and to do that requires experience, experience (and energy) that Fred doesn’t have.

Don’t confuse energy with visibile excitability; Fred’s a slow cooker, but he’ll get to a boil.

Fred: I’m telling you, as President, if the lives of a bunch of American citizens were at stake and I thought that there was a good chance that an individual had information and could impart imformation that would help save those lives, I’m just saying, that I would do whatever is necessary to get that imformation from that person. I would authorize that. Whatever is necessary to save a number of American lives (emphatically).
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Everyone needs to watch this thing.