HuffPo: Dumond’s other rape victims told Huckabee he was dangerous — before he was paroled; Update: Huck’s camp responds

posted at 12:25 pm on December 5, 2007 by Allahpundit

Simply bizarre. Huck’s maintained all along that he thought there was reason to doubt Dumond’s guilt; in fact, Ashley Stevens, the victim interviewed in the clip below, says he told her that to her face when they met. With letters from three other victims in his files, though, why on earth would he persist in going to bat for the guy? And why, also per the clip below, is he telling audiences that he didn’t lobby for Dumond’s parole when there are four parole board members who say that he did and one who’s willing to say so on camera?

[I]n a 2002 story I wrote for the Arkansas Times about Huckabee’s role in freeing Dumond, four board members — three of who spoke on the record — said that Huckabee lobbied and pressured board members on the matter. This included a 1996 executive meeting at which the board’s recording secretary — who ordinarily tapes the entire sessions — was asked to leave the room. Several board members and members of the state legislator have said the secret session violated state law.

The campaign also initially denied that Huck had the letters in his files — until HuffPo produced them:

Huckabee kept these and other documents secret because they were politically damaging, according to a former aide who worked for him in Arkansas. The aide has made the records available to the Huffington Post, deeply troubled by Huckabee’s repeated claims that he had no reason to believe Dumond would commit other violent crimes upon his release from prison. The aide also believes that Huckabee, for political reasons, has deliberately attempted to cover up his knowledge of Dumond’s other sexual assaults.

“There were no letters sent to the governor’s office from any rape victims,” Huckabee campaign spokesperson Alice Stewart said on Tuesday when contacted by the Huffington Post.

Subsequently, however, the campaign provided a former senior aide of Huckabee’s who did remember reading at least one of the letters.

There’s an unconvincing suggestion in the HuffPo piece that Huck simply refused to accept a rape victim’s word over a rapist’s. The only alternative to simple stupidity for all this is hinted at in the clip, where Brian Ross floats the possibility that since one of Dumond’s victims was known to be distantly related to Bill Clinton, Arkansas Republicans thought he might have been railroaded and wanted to undo the injustice. I’m highly skeptical that Huck would risk his political future on an anti-Clinton ploy as baroque as that, especially if he knew from the victim’s letters that Dumond would be a menace upon being paroled. Any other theories?

Team Huckabee counters this morning by pointing to an old story in which Huck’s office acknowledged receiving at least one letters, which certainly reduces the scoop value to HuffPo but gets us no closer to figuring out why he then went ahead and lobbied the parole board on this cretin’s behalf. Exit question: Will any of this hurt him? Unless someone can come up with a better explanation than negligence and/or naivete, I’m guessing no. And even if it does, he’s suddenly got a bit of a margin of error.

Update: I don’t usually post hate mail but I thought the Fredheads, who’ve complained so often about me, would enjoy this. From my latest missive: “Why don’t you just write a story entitled ‘I Want to Have Fred Thompson’s Next Child and I Hate Rudi, Huckabee, and Shep Smith, and So Should You’? Then maybe you can find closure and get to real journalism.”

Update: Huck’s camp e-mails with a point I meant to mention earlier. The graphic on the ABC piece is misleading. Huckabee didn’t pardon Dumond, Dumond was paroled — thanks in part to lobbying from Huck. It’s the board’s decision ultimately but the question remains: Why, if Huck was willing to campaign for Dumond’s early release, didn’t he just pardon him himself? Likely answer: Because he didn’t want the political fallout to rest solely on him if Dumond killed anyone when he got out.

Update: In response to my wondering why Huckabee would go to bat after having received these letters, Joe Carter, Huck’s director of research, e-mails:

First, the authenticity of the letters is questionable. All documents that are put into the Governor’s files are stamped with a time and date. These do not have that stamp.

Second, the idea that Dumond was railroaded was a live topic in AR for many years. The biggest paper in the state made the claim repeatedly (see attached editorial) and some key evidence was dismissed. After personally talking with the rape victim, Ashley Stevens, Governor Huckabee had not lingering doubts about Dumond’s guilt. However, Dumond had been castrated and had already served twice as long for the crime as is typical for the state. That is why the parole board did not find his release objectionable.

The “attached editorial” is the one by John R. Starr excerpted here. As for the authenticity of the letters, read Geraghty’s post again. At least one of them appears to be genuine.

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Hey Huck…”welcome to the jungle, it gets worse here every day”

LtE126 on December 5, 2007 at 12:29 PM

Atomic wedgie, ho.

profitsbeard on December 5, 2007 at 12:32 PM

The CBS Early Show was all over this as well, and although I missed part of the interview, it seemed that Harry Smith was trying to tie the pardon to Clinton Derangement Syndrome among Arkansas Republicans.

But I don’t really see Huckabee as a Clinton-hater, so that doesn’t work for me.

I think this has the potential to hurt him, if he doesn’t get out and explain his reasons pretty quickly. His early nuances on this hurt him, and now he’s either got to come completely clean or keep weaving explanations that contradict the evidence. Not a good position to be in.

Slublog on December 5, 2007 at 12:33 PM

Mike Huckabee, The Audacity from Hope. Lets see if he can worm his way out of this one.

Bad Candy on December 5, 2007 at 12:38 PM

Slublog on December 5, 2007 at 12:33 PM

The CBS CDS tie-in may be related to Huck’s trying to flick the Dumond booger on the fact that the parole board was made up of Clinton (and his predecessor’s)nominees. It doesn’t matter whose nominees are on that board, he lobbied them and influenced that decision.

Romans 13, Huck…….

Kid from Brooklyn on December 5, 2007 at 12:38 PM

LMAO at the hate mail. Looks liek it was written by a 12 year old.

zane on December 5, 2007 at 12:39 PM

like…oops

zane on December 5, 2007 at 12:40 PM

Dang it, Allah…you left off the best part! I was proud of that!

Slublog on December 5, 2007 at 12:41 PM

Simply bizarre.

No more bizarre than THIS.

I’m loving it. Let these morons continue to self destruct and hopefully Thompson (or even Tanc) can start moving up. Doubtful about Tanc, but one can dream. As stupid as the current leaders seem to be, nothing is impossible.

Gregor on December 5, 2007 at 12:41 PM

No more bizarre than THIS.

Please. You think Boston Globe reporters have anything better to do? Heaven forbid they investigate the Kennedys.

The CBS CDS tie-in may be related to Huck’s trying to flick the Dumond booger on the fact that the parole board was made up of Clinton (and his predecessor’s)nominees. It doesn’t matter whose nominees are on that board, he lobbied them and influenced that decision.

Maybe, but that still doesn’t answer the question of why he lobbied for Dumond. The whole thing is bizarre.

Slublog on December 5, 2007 at 12:44 PM

Likely answer: Because he didn’t want the political fallout to rest solely on him if Dumond killed anyone when he got out.

Wouldn’t that mean he’d have reason to believe the guy could kill somebody when he got out? Why lobby to get him out at all?

amerpundit on December 5, 2007 at 12:45 PM

Please. You think Boston Globe reporters have anything better to do? Heaven forbid they investigate the Kennedys.

Slublog on December 5, 2007 at 12:44 PM

Once again, we have a so called conservative who ignores the fact that a Republican candidate is corrupt, and instead makes excuses. Just like the liberals do with the Clintons.

Gregor on December 5, 2007 at 12:45 PM

Once again, we have a so called conservative who ignores the fact that a Republican candidate is corrupt, and instead makes excuses. Just like the liberals do with the Clintons.

That was kind of the point of Michelle’s post. She rightly criticizes Romney, but seems to save most of her ire for the Boston Globe and their ridiculous stake-out.

Slublog on December 5, 2007 at 12:47 PM

The “Why” questions can be answered with the Dick Morris quote in yesterday’s Dumond post. Huck has a serious misunderstanding of the concept of forgiveness, as related to its application in civilian secular government, which is why I keep hammering Romans 13. It’s as if he never read it.

Kid from Brooklyn on December 5, 2007 at 12:50 PM

Did you catch the line at the end “After first denying these (letters) were genuine”. Not only did he lie about not knowing his spokeman tried to lie about the letters.

tort_feasor on December 5, 2007 at 12:52 PM

Close curtains. This will linger and roast him among the law and order Republicans. Even the evangelical law and orders. He’ll be behind Mitt again in Iowa by next Wednesday.

Vizzini on December 5, 2007 at 12:56 PM

Once again, we have a so called conservative who ignores the fact that a Republican candidate is corrupt, and instead makes excuses. Just like the liberals do with the Clintons.

Gregor on December 5, 2007 at 12:45 PM

I don’t see any evidence of corruption. Being a dumba$$, probably, but corrupt? Where’s the evidence?

BacaDog on December 5, 2007 at 12:57 PM

Judging from the response, it seems the Huckabee campaign is going to dig in instead of explain. Personally, I think they’ve chosen…unwisely.

Slublog on December 5, 2007 at 12:58 PM

This way-too-drawn-out election is reminding me of this years college season. You don’t want to be in the #1 or even #2 position. Baaaaad things happen. Hell, at this rate, look out for a Fred or McCain surge.

Sugar Land on December 5, 2007 at 1:00 PM

The CBS Early Show was all over this as well, and although I missed part of the interview, it seemed that Harry Smith was trying to tie the pardon to Clinton Derangement Syndrome among Arkansas Republicans.

I didn’t see the ES, so I don’t know if Harry Smith was wrong (or being deliberately misleading), but like Allah said, there was no pardon; he was paroled.

hindmost on December 5, 2007 at 1:05 PM

Allah, I wish you’d post more hate mail–just the Ronulan screeds alone are probably priceless. How about saving some of the best ones for a Hate Mail post on slow news days? I can’t be the only one who’d like to read that. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

ReubenJCogburn on December 5, 2007 at 1:05 PM

look out for a Fred or McCain surge.

Sugar Land on December 5, 2007 at 1:00 PM

Maybe the Cubs will win the series this year, too. One can only dream.

peski on December 5, 2007 at 1:07 PM

Allah, I wish you’d post more hate mail–just the Ronulan screeds alone are probably priceless. How about saving some of the best ones for a Hate Mail post on slow news days? I can’t be the only one who’d like to read that. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

ReubenJCogburn on December 5, 2007 at 1:05 PM

I second the motion, more hatemail.

tort_feasor on December 5, 2007 at 1:07 PM

Wouldn’t that mean he’d have reason to believe the guy could kill somebody when he got out? Why lobby to get him out at all?

amerpundit on December 5, 2007 at 12:45 PM

It would appear he was willing to take a risk with the lives and safety of the citizens of Ark, but he did not want to take any chances with his political future. Very confidence inspiring.

Zetterson on December 5, 2007 at 1:07 PM

I think it’s a huge mistake for Huckabee to try and explain any of this in any other terms than that leaders sometimes make mistakes. Any dancing around on this just comes off as insensitive to the pain that he helped to cause. If he can’t own up to his mistakes, not only is he unfit to be the POTUS, he is unfit to call himself a Christian leader.

Defense Guy on December 5, 2007 at 1:08 PM

ReubenJCogburn on December 5, 2007 at 1:05 PM

That would be fun for us, but probably a bad idea. It would just encourage jerks to strive for screed immortality.

peski on December 5, 2007 at 1:08 PM

hindmost on December 5, 2007 at 1:05 PM

I don’t know. There are stories out of Arkansas that make everyone look bad. What a mess.

And I meant parole. “Pardon” was a mistake.

Slublog on December 5, 2007 at 1:11 PM

That would be fun for us, but probably a bad idea. It would just encourage jerks to strive for screed immortality.

peski on December 5, 2007 at 1:08 PM

You have a point, but I bet they get some now that are indistinguishable from ones written just for notoriety.

ReubenJCogburn on December 5, 2007 at 1:16 PM

Exit question: Will any of this hurt him? Unless someone can come up with a better explanation than negligence and/or naivete, I’m guessing no. And even if it does, he’s suddenly got a bit of a margin of error.

I think this more than hurts him. I think this is so bad that it ends him.

greggish on December 5, 2007 at 1:18 PM

It seems that Huckabee’s ideas about protecting the citizens of this country (or State) are different than mine. Reward people for coming here illegally, spring dangerous criminals from prison before they’ve served their sentences, etc.

I’m not saying his ideas are wrong. I’m just saying that they’re way different than mine.

jaime on December 5, 2007 at 1:21 PM

I think this more than hurts him. I think this is so bad that it ends him.

I hope so, but not for this reason. Amnesty and/or illegal tuition is a non-starter for me.

hindmost on December 5, 2007 at 1:21 PM

Before this is over, everyone on the parole board will be interviewed to see what sway Huck had on them.

Valiant on December 5, 2007 at 1:22 PM

And why, also per the clip below, is he telling audiences that he didn’t lobby for Dumond’s parole when there are four parole board members who say that he did and one who’s willing to say so on camera?

If you are looking for the explanation for something, first look to the simplist explaination as it is likely the correct one.

Because he is a lier.

MB4 on December 5, 2007 at 1:23 PM

I’m not saying his ideas are wrong. I’m just saying that they’re way different than mine.

And he has two choices when defending his decisions:

1) If you don’t agree with me you’re not a good Christian;

2) I didn’t do it.

He’s used them both.

[sorry about responding to myself. just one of those days]

jaime on December 5, 2007 at 1:27 PM

I think this more than hurts him. I think this is so bad that it ends him.

Correct. The uber-religious squishiness (close Gitmo, immigration, this case) combined with more undiscovered Arkansas baggage will derail his smarmy campaign.

Rape and murder are not abstract policy positions. That’s real world stuff, and he got an F.

Cuffy Meigs on December 5, 2007 at 1:30 PM

I saw a story recently, where when a democrat took over the Arkansas governorship from The High Reverend Huckster, a democrat aide asked why the democrats were not replacing very many political appointees.
The answer was that Huck kept most of Clinton’s appointees.

MB4 on December 5, 2007 at 1:32 PM

Rape and murder are not abstract policy positions. That’s real world stuff, and he got an F.

Yeah, this is a ‘drip, drip’ type of story as well – the more you learn about it, the worse Huckabee’s actions look. His campaign’s response is mystifying, though. If he doesn’t get out and explain why he did what he did, the information that’s still out there will end him.

Slublog on December 5, 2007 at 1:33 PM

[sorry about responding to myself. just one of those days]

jaime on December 5, 2007 at 1:27 PM

It is permisable to talk to yourself as long as you are making sense.

MB4 on December 5, 2007 at 1:34 PM

All that is left is for The High Reverend Huckster to go for a ride in a tank.

MB4 on December 5, 2007 at 1:36 PM

I don’t see any evidence of corruption. Being a dumba$$, probably, but corrupt? Where’s the evidence?

BacaDog on December 5, 2007 at 12:57 PM

His views on immigration are not based on his Christian faith. All a person needs to do is look at his connections to figure this out.

It’s not the only reason to believe he’s not the person he claims to be.

Gregor on December 5, 2007 at 1:37 PM

The High Reverend Huckster also tried to make off with about $80,000 worth of furniture when he left the governor’s mansion in Arkansas.

Would Jesus have done that?

MB4 on December 5, 2007 at 1:42 PM

The High Reverend Huckster also tried to make off with about $80,000 worth of furniture when he left the governor’s mansion in Arkansas.

Didn’t the Clintons try that when they left the Whitehouse? Must be the Arkansas governing mentality. If the taxpayers paid for it, it’s mine!

jaime on December 5, 2007 at 1:46 PM

Dang, Gregeor, that comment was chock full of more Hucktrash than I’ve seen in one place. Amazing.

Cuffy Meigs on December 5, 2007 at 1:46 PM

The High Reverend Huckster also tried to make off with about $80,000 worth of furniture when he left the governor’s mansion in Arkansas.

MB4 on December 5, 2007 at 1:42 PM

Yeah, here’s an interesting story on that. Wonderful human being.

Gregor on December 5, 2007 at 1:58 PM

So we’ve found Huck’s version of Willie Horton. Just brilliant.

Stand back, folks. I think we might be on the verge of a Huckplosion. You don’t want to be around when it really goes thermonuclear. I ain’t gonna be pretty.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on December 5, 2007 at 2:52 PM

I=It. It ain’t gonna be pretty.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on December 5, 2007 at 2:52 PM

Huckabee’s a sucker. If a two bit scumbag rapist can pull the wool over his eyes anyone can.

PLEASE PUT THE KIBOSH ON THIS COLD FISH NOW.

thareb on December 5, 2007 at 3:01 PM

Chuck Norris is not going to be happy about all of this, and it’s best not to get Chuck Norris mad. There’s going to be some karate hell to pay.

greggish on December 5, 2007 at 3:09 PM

Where was Chuck Norris when the girl was being murdered?

MB4 on December 5, 2007 at 3:28 PM

Huck may well deserve to end up flat on his back here.

I’m just seeing this campaign as the MSM/Pundits shooting down one candidate after another until the ones THEY want are left.

I don’t have an alternative, but I think the primaries are more weakness than strength at this point.

Merovign on December 5, 2007 at 3:30 PM

The real question is why the HuffPo is pushing a story that could hurt Huckabee in the primaries, when they should be on their knees praying that he is the nominee.

Dudley Smith on December 5, 2007 at 3:32 PM

Huck’s a liberal to begin with. Of course he sympathizes with the criminals more than the victims.

davenp35 on December 5, 2007 at 3:33 PM

I wonder if Dummond had raped and killed Huckabee’s wife or daughter or kin would he still be happy to have cut this killer loose?

countywolf on December 5, 2007 at 3:59 PM

For the Clinton tie-in, read the Village Voice article. Right after forced oral sex and Dumond’s castration, his attackers said “Mr. C would be proud.”

Valiant on December 5, 2007 at 6:27 PM

Buh Bye, Guv.

silverfox on December 5, 2007 at 7:57 PM

I know it’s obnoxious to say, “I told you so” — but, hey, I told you so several times and some of you *still* didn’t get it. So let’s take it real slow this time… All politics is local. Can we agree on that? So, by extension, when a politician goes national, the smart thing to do is check his ‘local’ record. Now was that so hard?

LOCALLY, we know that Mike Huckabee is a poor imitation of Elmer Gantry, and Ouachita Baptist College isn’t exactly a proving ground for intellectual giants. Southern Baptist preachers, yes; world leaders, no. LOCALLY, we know that MRS. Huckabee would give MRS. Clinton a run for her money when it comes to brazen power grabs. LOCALLY, we know that Billy Jeff isn’t the only boy from Hope plagued by scandals that just happen to have a basis in fact.

We told you about Gennifer and Juanita, and you ignored us. We warned you about Hillary and about Al. Everybody looked the other way. Now we’re telling you that Fred is The Real Deal — and, once again, you’re deaf to the people who know them. You’re letting the MSM drive the agenda, folks. They say “lazy”, “lagging in the polls”, “no fire in the belly”…and you’re falling for that garbage. You’d rather critique his choice of tie or criticize his head bobs than acknowledge that he’s the only candidate offering substantive answers to *every* substantive question before us.

Well, I say you and csdeven and tommylotto and BKennedy may just get what you deserve — a great candidate who’s a lousy President. But, hey, I may be wrong. After all, what do us ignorant ‘locals’ know?

grits on December 5, 2007 at 8:19 PM

This is beginning to look, more and more, like a political hit-piece.

He “said”…She “said”…No one under oath…And plenty of people, with a motivation to, ahem, stretch the truth.

I’d like to see hard evidence, such as a letter from Huckabee to the parole board.

franksalterego on December 6, 2007 at 9:11 AM