War questions for Mike Huckabee Update: Video added Update: Huckabee wanted to keep Gitmo open as late as June 2007 Update: New video added; Update: Huckabee issues statement
posted at 10:43 am on December 4, 2007 by Bryan
Gov. Huckabee, I have a couple of questions for you.
Today’s Washington Post says that after a meeting with some unnamed former generals, you’ve decided that waterboarding should be outlawed and that, more importantly, the terrorist detention facility at Guantanamo Bay should be closed.
After the Iowa poll showed that Republican voters like him but found him much less “presidential” and “electable” than Romney, Huckabee sought to build his foreign policy credentials, meeting with a group of retired generals who are in Des Moines to urge the 2008 candidates to commit to opposing torture. After the meeting, Huckabee joined Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in declaring his opposition to the interrogation procedure known as “waterboarding,” and said he would support closing the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, a contrast with the other leading Republicans.
That paragraph suggests that you’re easily swayed by a single meeting on important issues that have been before the American people for years. I won’t ask you a “when did you stop beating your wife” kind of question based on that observation, though. Instead, I’ll ask these questions:
Is the Post’s account accurate? Is it true that you now favor closing Gitmo? If so, what are the details of that position? President Bush has also said that he would like to close Gitmo, but recognizes that the detainees still have to be kept out of the war or they will once again pose a threat to US troops and civilians around the world, so he has kept the facility open in the face of worldwide condemnation. Was he right to do that? What would President Huckabee have done? Would you close it as soon as possible, would you close it only at the cessation of hostilities with al Qaeda, or do you have some other timing in mind? If your position is to close the facility as soon as possible, what would you do with the inmates held there? Would you put the likes of Khalid Sheik Mohammed in the US civilian criminal justice system, as many Democrats and the ACLU argue should be done? Would you attempt to repatriate the inmates to their countries of origin? Are you aware that the Bush administration has tried to repatriate many of the Gitmo inmates, and their countries of origin don’t want them? Are you aware that about a dozen former Gitmo inmates who have been released have turned up on battlefields, fighting once again against US and coalition forces?
Specifically, what is it that you find problematic about Guantanamo? Are the conditions of incarceration too harsh? How would you have handled the detainees differently from the Bush administration?
And last, if waterboarding is off the table, how would your administration extract information from captured terrorist masterminds like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed?
Update: Here’s video of Huckabee addressing the symbolism of Guantanamo.
MIKE HUCKABEE: I’ve been to Guantanamo, I was there, I guess it’s been about a year and a half ago. I think the problem with Guantanamo is not in that its facilities are inadequate. It’s the symbol that it represents. It’s clearly become a symbol to the rest of the world as a place that has become problematic for us as a nation. I was quite frankly impressed with the quality of the facilities and even the attention to care that was given to the detainees, but that aside, it doesn’t alter that Guantanamo to the rest of the world is a symbol that is not in our best interests to continue pursuing.
My take: He’s putting symbolism over substance and putting worldwide condemnation ahead of the security realities. Those are not good qualities in a commander in chief who’ll lead a country that was globally envied and reviled long before the war even started.
Update (AP): Is Huck too moralistic to be C-in-C? Paul Mirengoff thinks so: “Waterboarding and long-term detention aren’t very ‘Christian’; they merely keep terrorists out of action and, in special circumstances enable us to find out where we’re going to be attacked next and/or where we can find those who are planning the next attacks.”
Update: Reader Chris sends this story along. It’s from June 11, 2007. Huckabee’s opinion on Gitmo was the opposite of what it is now.
Detainees being held at the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, on suspicion of connections to terrorism enjoy conditions better than many prisons in the United States, Republican presidential contender Mike Huckabee said Sunday.
While the government’s handling of Guantanamo detainees has come to symbolize “what’s gone wrong” in the fight against terrorism, the former Arkansas governor said, it’s better to err on the side of protecting the American people.
The former Arkansas governor, who has visited Guantanamo, said Arkansas prisoners most likely would prefer Guantanamo to incarceration in Arkansas.
“I can tell you most of our prisoners would love to be in a facility more like Guantanamo and less like the state prisons that people are in in the United States,” Huckabee said on a cable news network.
“It’s (Guantanamo) more symbolic than it is a substantive issue because people perceive of mistreatment when in fact there are extraordinary means being taken to make sure these detainees are being given really every consideration,” he said.
Former Secretary of State Colin Powell has said Guantanamo should be closed and others have criticized the federal government for holding suspects indefinitely and apparently without evidence. Huckabee said he understands these concerns.
“But I tell you if we let somebody out and it turns out that they come and fly an airliner into one of our skyscrapers, we’re going to be asking how come we didn’t stop them, we had them detained,” he said. “If we’re going to make a mistake right now, let’s make it on the side of protecting the American people.”
Gov. Huckabee, was Gen. Colin Powell among the generals you met with in Des Moines?
Update: Here’s Huckabee’s video from earlier today on Fox. I’ve left in part of his answer regarding why he’s drawing support to give you a sense of how smooth a speaker Huckabee is. He’s good without coming across as slick or fake. But that doesn’t make him right, and on Gitmo he’s just wrong. As you’ll see in this clip, he makes a point of saying that closing Gitmo doesn’t mean releasing the terrorist, and that he’d like to move them elsewhere and close Gitmo since it has become a counterproductive symbol of the war.
So where would Huckabee put the detainees? He doesn’t say, and doesn’t seem to know. What would he do if that new location also becomes a counterproductive symbol of the war to America’s critics? He doesn’t say, and doesn’t appear to have considered the possibility.
Update: Our host is having a bad time with this clip. Hopefully the issue will resolve soon.
Update (AP): Here’s the statement from the Huckabee campaign.
The men and women of our armed forces have served and acted honorably in their duties at Guantanamo Bay and we greatly appreciate their service in keeping our nation free, safe, and secure. I have visited Guantanamo Bay and know that the detainees are more than adequately cared for. My concern is that the facility has become a distraction from our Global War on Terror and that other facilities, like Fort Leavenworth, can serve the same purpose without the controversy.
As for specific procedures concerning detainee adjudication, like all Americans, I await the Supreme Courts ruling in the Boumediene case, which will determine if detainees have habeus corpus rights. As President, my overriding concern in dealing with the suspected terrorists will always be our national security interests. I want to reiterate, as I stated in June, that my first priority will be the protection of the American people and ensuring that all suspected terrorists remain in our custody.
Update (Bryan): Ok, so now we know he wants to put the detainees at Leavenworth. If SCOTUS doesn’t grant them habeus corpus, that move is likely to as the nearest federal judge will have the ACLU camped out in his inbox. What then? And what happens when the Gitmo critics just move on to start criticizing us for holding the detainees at Leavenworth? The end result of Huckabee’s stance will be to grant the detainees full rights in US civilian courts, either that or freeing them, since he won’t take the stand that our detaining them at Gitmo is both lawful and humane and has established the precedent that he’ll retreat in the face of unfair and unreasonable criticism of the US.
Sorry, Governor, no sale here.










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Mike Huckabee isn’t getting my vote, that’s for sure.
msipes on December 4, 2007 at 10:46 AM
Don’t tell me: Your soul won’t let you.
amerpundit on December 4, 2007 at 10:46 AM
I would be curious to see Huckabee’s responses on these questions. When people first started making comparisons between Huckabee and Jimmy Carter, I thought that was a bit too harsh.
Now, I’m not so sure.
Slublog on December 4, 2007 at 10:49 AM
The guy just ain’t got the Malkins to run the USA.
bbz123 on December 4, 2007 at 10:49 AM
My soul won’t let me vote for Huckabee.
Mike Honcho on December 4, 2007 at 10:50 AM
So much for Mike Huckabee getting the Republican nomination, the man just shot himself in the head…
doriangrey on December 4, 2007 at 10:50 AM
how are the Gitmo detainees treated unfairly , for the most part they look like they have it better off them most criminals in our prisons.
execute them {period}
Mojack420 on December 4, 2007 at 10:53 AM
Gitmo is the latest excuse for the much of the world to hate us. They found a reason before Gitmo, they’d find one after.
amerpundit on December 4, 2007 at 10:59 AM
The Dems and the media are propping this huskster guy up. Because they know he’s the one republican they can beat the he11 out of. You might just as well vote for Obama or Clinton if you support this corrupt azzhat.
Griz on December 4, 2007 at 11:01 AM
Huckabee doesn’t get my vote.
“ain’t got the Malkins to run the USA” that says it all …
tarpon on December 4, 2007 at 11:02 AM
All of these are fair questions. However, you seem to be making a lot of assumptions without actually hearing the original rationalization from the candidate.
I know a lot of folks are anti-Huck on here, but please be responsible and get the full story before inferring a position as this article does.
EduardoOTI on December 4, 2007 at 11:03 AM
Huckabee is on Fox saying he raised taxes because of a Supreme Court order. He’s still pushing that.
amerpundit on December 4, 2007 at 11:03 AM
And thus begins Hucks downward spiral in the polls (I hope)
conservnut on December 4, 2007 at 11:08 AM
He just told Fox that whatever value it’s added for the United States, it’s detracted because it’s become a “symbol for the world” of what they don’t like about the U.S.. He said he doesn’t want the detainees to be free, he just wants to “put them somewhere else”.
amerpundit on December 4, 2007 at 11:08 AM
I am so freekin’ sick of those people who worry about what the WORLD thinks about us!
Oh Ronnie!!!!!!!!!!!! Did anyone save any of his DNA????
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on December 4, 2007 at 11:12 AM
That’s the key question. The WP is blatantly biased so why should we trust their accounting what any candidate (except Hillary) has said or done? It wouldn’t be the first time that this branch of the DNC propoganda machine throws stuff like this out there for the sole purpose of influencing elections.
Shame on anybody who actually believes what this rag prints without exposing it to a healthy dose of skepticism! Especially stories that involved “unnamed former generals.” It’s important to know if these are legitimate voices or that same group of 12 the left keeps trotting out- the group that has an axe to grind with this administration because Rumsfeld fired them for incompetence or irrelevance. I get very suspicious of reports that makes such serious allegations from anonymity.
highhopes on December 4, 2007 at 11:14 AM
What possible context could there be for Huckabee’s statement in that video? Asking us to be responsible is fine, but Huckabee’s own words are pretty damaging and I’d like to see, just once, a Huckabee supporter acknowledge the problems in his record and in his statements on the war.
Slublog on December 4, 2007 at 11:14 AM
Huckabee was just on Fox re-iterating much of what he says in the video above. We’re efforting video of that and ought to have it before too long.
Bryan on December 4, 2007 at 11:17 AM
Oy!
This is why the Bible talks about how the decisions of government can be a different approach then a personal moralistic one. I’m not saying for the government to be barbaric or forget what Judeo-Christian standards are but there comes times when tough choices must be made.
Least that’s how I interpret it. Huck just seems way too soft. He acting like a mother to this nation (if elected) rather then a father in my eyes.
CTDeLude on December 4, 2007 at 11:17 AM
Buh bye Huck! Somehow Duncan Hunter needs to get into the spotlight. I know Ann Coulter likes him, and even with her brash style aside, I think it time to start looking at the man.
LakeRuins on December 4, 2007 at 11:18 AM
Except there’s the video above and Huck just repeated his position on Fox.
amerpundit on December 4, 2007 at 11:21 AM
Man, he’s reminding me of all the crazy Catholic posts Allah and Bryan have been putting up of lib Catholics defending Islam while bashing Christianity and the West, denouncing the war effort, etc. Yeah, I know he’s a Baptist minister. I want him to govern as a conservative Republican first, not as a Christian first. I think most people would agree with me. I disliked him before; now I am actually frightened by the thought of Huck as president.
RW Wacko on December 4, 2007 at 11:24 AM
Huck’s soft on immigration, taxes, and waterboarding. Rudy’s soft on immigration, gun control, health care, etc. McCain’s soft of immigration and waterboarding, and won’t get the nod anyway. Romney is soft on health care, gun control, and waterboarding. I’m really pulling for Fred as the last conservative, but unless he’s got some surprise in store for the next few weeks, he’s gone.
*sigh*
MadisonConservative on December 4, 2007 at 11:28 AM
This is a legitimate issue to discuss. I’m not a Huckabee supporter but what I do object to here is that far too many “issues” and posts about both Huckabee and Romney are centered on their faith and how offensive that is to the atheists that seem to haunt this forum. Faith in and of itself is far down on the list of priorities and is part of that intangible called “character” but there have been an innumberable number of messages and posters with the single thought that Huckabee is unfit for office because he is an evangelical Christian.
I’m glad to see a thread where the man’s record is actually the focus of discussion. It makes for a nice change and brings up some extremely troublesome statements that the governor has made in the past.
highhopes on December 4, 2007 at 11:29 AM
I blame Allahpundit for all this. I remember him pointing out how appealing Huckabee was after the first Republican debate. Great job, AP.
frankj on December 4, 2007 at 11:30 AM
If you can’t get tough and mean, you arent tough enough to run the USA.
For good reason, the liberals are always the first to be slaughtered like sheep when the $hit hits the fan. I would rather be the one doing the slaughtering instead of the one being slaughtered.
Like it or not, it is a jungle out there.
saiga on December 4, 2007 at 11:31 AM
I haven’t seen a single person say his faith alone is what disqualifies him for the office. Not one. Allah’s never said it, and I haven’t seen it from the other atheists on the forum, either.
Slublog on December 4, 2007 at 11:32 AM
Great points Bryan and AP! What the debates lack in substance you certainly make up for it on your site. Well done!
Weight of Glory on December 4, 2007 at 11:38 AM
This post certainly isn’t about faith. I’m a Southern Baptist myself, but I find Huckabee’s stance on Gitmo objectionable. I’m also not crazy about his tax record and I think his record and reasoning on illegal immigration are very problematic.
If anything, faith is one of the few things I find agreeable about Huckabee. He’d make a fine deacon or pastor I’m sure, but I’m increasingly resistant to him becoming president, and that’s based solely on his record and what he says about the issues facing the country now.
Bryan on December 4, 2007 at 11:38 AM
I would prefer a man or woman of faith as president. This coming from someone who is w/o religion but believes in “something”. But I want someone who is guided by a core POLITICAL philiosphy that I can judge them by. Lib/conservative is a start. After that, you can break it down by social vs economic issues, etc. Problem with Huck is that it seems like he is saying his religious principles guide his political choices. Which means I can’t pin him down on anything. I can’t rely on “I’ll do whatever God would want me to do” as guidance for how Huck would vote/behave/react/ to a certain situation or with a particular bill. Looking at the current candidates, the only ones I can see as pure to their core principles are Tanc, Paul, and Hunter. I wouldn’t vote for Tanc or Paul and Hunter is, for some reason, unelectable. Next in line would be McCain and Fred. Then the ultimate flip-floppers Mitt and Rudy, then Huck who is guided by his faith alone it seems.
RW Wacko on December 4, 2007 at 11:46 AM
Huckabee aside, I think if we’ve learned anything from the Gitmo outcry over the past few years, it’s that we shouldn’t take prisoners in war. Kill them all.
Enrique on December 4, 2007 at 11:49 AM
It is precisely that symbol that tells our enemies we will go to the ropes to defend ouselves
It is that symbol of intent that is necessary against enemies who declared war upon us, our civilization and our beliefs with full intent of conquest long before the death of thousands by horrific holocaust on 911
It is not problematic. It is a no-brainer.
Therein lies the problem with Huckabee, aside from the fact he is sounding like Obama who is now deciding what he thinks about war and other stuff
Is Huck taking orders from his soul or from his inner Jimmy?
Bryan, this as a great post and very important to me because I possess a strong life-wish, I love this country and want it to continue for future generations
At this moment in history we cannot afford an appeaser President
entagor on December 4, 2007 at 11:51 AM
Huck, huck huck, whaddya goin do…How many times was waterboarding used? And was it useful?
Symbolism is all the rest of the world has of us, they create whatever symbols they want. We are the symbol of peace, action, relief, steadfastness—or we are bullies, selfish, imperalistic. Which symbol do you think we are? Our symbols, yes even Gitmo, shows the rest of the world we mean business. And if we have to waterboard a few freaks, so be it.
right2bright on December 4, 2007 at 11:58 AM
“When did you stop supporting the torture of our suspected enemies?” perhaps?
Mark Jaquith on December 4, 2007 at 11:58 AM
So who is going to tell the Iowa voters that Huck is against waterboarding and wnats to close Gitmo? Y’all let me know if you see this on tv anywhere.
LakeRuins on December 4, 2007 at 12:01 PM
I prefer the symbolism of an American soldier in full battle rattle mixing with the local population ready to either dispense medicine and toys or death to insurgents, whichever is called for at the time.
That is a pretty powerful symbol doncha think?
LakeRuins on December 4, 2007 at 12:03 PM
We must resurrect him. Let ZOMBIE REAGAN lead us forever!
Frozen Tex on December 4, 2007 at 12:08 PM
I know I like it.
Frozen Tex on December 4, 2007 at 12:08 PM
Exactly. It would be Huck’s friggin’ job and DUTY as President to project the right image of America to the rest of the world. Get on the bully pulpit and defend HER, and the people will rally around you. If you beleive in what we are doing at Guantanamo, then use your position as President to explain that to the world; don’t capitulate to the whims of our critics.
RW Wacko on December 4, 2007 at 12:11 PM
That’s not what I said, Mark. If you want to distort what I’m saying, you have a blog on which to do so.
Bryan on December 4, 2007 at 12:12 PM
highhopes on December 4, 2007 at 11:29 AM
Highhopes – The reason that many people discuss Mike Huckabee’s faith is because he has made it a focal point of his campaign and his qualifications for the Presidency. Similar to the way that John F. Kerry made his time in Vietnam the focal point of his campaign and his qualifications for the Presidency (and was rightly criticized for his record in Vietnam and what he did upon returning). If Mike Huckabee wants to make his faith the issue, then he and his supporters should expect his detractors to show how his faith may be a detriment to his judgement as President.
Michael in MI on December 4, 2007 at 12:14 PM
Any time there’s a suggestion that we should close Gitmo so the world will like us again the red flag goes up and I wonder what fuzzy liberal angle is this guy coming from.
To hell with what other countries think of Gitmo, most likely if we closed Gitmo they’d find some other panty waist thing to blame us for.
Huck’s first reaction was to close Gitmo? Big surprise, we already knew he’s running in the wrong party.
Somebody needs to put the dividing line between left and right back where it belongs.
Speakup on December 4, 2007 at 12:22 PM
I think Huck would probably make a decent neighbor, but the more I see of him, the more I don’t want him as my President. Being a nanny-stater and squishy on illegals was bad enough, but it increasingly appears that he’s squishy in a lot of other places too. I honestly think he’d be better off if he’d get out of politics and focus on spiritual matters, because they don’t mix well.
ReubenJCogburn on December 4, 2007 at 12:22 PM
My soul has no problem with voting for Huck, but my brain absolutely forbids it.
awake on December 4, 2007 at 12:28 PM
Allah suggested an Atheist yesterday.
Speakup on December 4, 2007 at 12:28 PM
I’ve been hearing people call him the “Republican Jimmy Carter”….. if that is so, did he wear the “special boots” when he went to Gitmo?
TBinSTL on December 4, 2007 at 12:30 PM
In an early debate, Mitt Romney said we should expand Gitmo detentiion facilities…I’m all for that! I don’t think Huckabee has the stones to do what is needed.
canvas on December 4, 2007 at 12:51 PM
Mike Huckabee would be a very ideal president in a very ideal world.
Schweggie on December 4, 2007 at 1:10 PM
Didn’t say you did. I was just suggesting it as a good question to ask Huckabee who until now was (at the least) silent about the waterboarding of terrorism suspects. As you said, these issues have been out in the open for a while. Why did it take him so long to weigh in?
Mark Jaquith on December 4, 2007 at 1:21 PM
You should send your questions into this newfangled website called “You Tube.” I know it sounds weird, but I hear candidates actually answer questions from there.
Of course, you may have to dress up like a snow man. Or a bunny rabbit.
Cleavage would probably help, too.
Now quit fighting the Huckster. He was ordained the day Chuck Norris decided he was. His candidacy is as inevitable as the frickin’ Patriots.
Resistance is futile.
Professor Blather on December 4, 2007 at 1:33 PM
Huckabee… F*ck Me!
I’m beginning to believe Huckabee’s “Surge” is a product of the MSM designed to put a Republican “Jimmy Carter” in the White House it Clinton doesn’t win.
thareb on December 4, 2007 at 2:26 PM
Two words.
Global test.
I am done with you, Mr. Huckabee.
Hawkins1701 on December 4, 2007 at 2:35 PM
AMEN!
right2bright on December 4, 2007 at 3:15 PM
Here’s a story from June 18th which outlines all the candidates positions. McCain and Paul are already on the record of wanting to close Gitmo.
Maybe Huck is hoping to get McCain as his running mate?
Buy Danish on December 4, 2007 at 3:16 PM
So…Guantanamo keeps us “free, safe and secure,” but we should close it because the criticism of other countries is an abstract “distraction” from the war on terror.
Doesn’t Huckabee realize that it’s the imprisonment that bothers the critics, not the facility?
Slublog on December 4, 2007 at 3:31 PM
What we need is someone who is more concerned with what is actually the case than he is with how things appear. It is apparent that he has been swayed by partizans of the latter sort. They maintain that we should do things, or refrain from doing them because of how they appear to others outside the US. If something the US does becomes symbolic, or in other words, is taken to be, or represented to be malicious, then we should shut it down. Quite frankly, that is ridiculous. Appearances, or representations be damned. If there is a legitimate reason to keep gitmo open, there is a moral imperative to do so. To fail to do so would be immoral, even if it APPEARS to be OR IS REPRESENTED TO BE moral. Moral compass needs alignment. Huck seems like a nice guy, but this cements it. I will not vote for him in the primary.
themistocles on December 4, 2007 at 3:31 PM
…
’nuff said.
Valiant on December 4, 2007 at 3:50 PM
Huck doesn’t understand. Once you get them bad boys on American soil every 2 bit lawyer with a 30 second commercial, including John Edwards, will be lining up and filing one lawsuit after another on behalf of these misguided youths. Protestors 24/7 outside the facility. You think Gitmo is screwed up like a soup samwich, just put them in an American facility.
School of the Americas ring any bellls?
LakeRuins on December 4, 2007 at 3:51 PM
See folks, this is an example of a flip-flop, flipping back and forth depending on where the wind blows.
This is in direct contrast to evolving into a position and sticking with it regardless of which way the wind blows.
But rest assured, if Romney does win the nomination and drops his conservatism to play to the middle, he just lost a vote. Not that it would matter much here in The People’s Republic of Massachusetts.
BKennedy on December 4, 2007 at 3:53 PM
“..the rest of the world!”?? I guess the Huckster wants the Supreme Court of the US to adopt European Law as well. GIVE ME A BREAK!!!! To hell with them! I don’t care what they think.
Nelsa on December 4, 2007 at 4:15 PM
This is why looking at a record is so important…it is not what they say, it is what they believe. This guy has a record of liberalism.
High taxes, slack immigration, big government,weak on security.
He can flip flop all he wants, there is nothing in his past to warrant any change of mind…other candidates fall into the same category. They think they can “talk” their way out of their history and record.
right2bright on December 4, 2007 at 4:43 PM
Who cares what the rest of the world thinks of us.
Putting up a nice image and hoping the world likes us is phony, liberal, pansy, and IT DOESN’T work!
Try walking through North Philly, Compton, or 180th street while trying to put on a freindly kind presence.
Huck is floating further away – even as a veep!
amend2 on December 4, 2007 at 4:56 PM
MB4 on December 4, 2007 at 5:07 PM
And how long will it take before we have to close Fort Leavenworth because of it’s symbolism. I mean from what I understand we had to transfer Abu Graib to the Iraqis because of it’s symbolism. And unlike Abu Graib, nothing wrong has gone on at Gitmo. It’s symbolizes only that this is were Jihadis go.
Gitmo needs to be open if for nothing less than to keep it in military control and away from civilian couts (noting the point Bryan made about the ACLU and The SCOTUS).
- The Cat
P.S. To the rest of the world America is a symbol of what a lot of people are angry about.
P.P.S. I now put Huck in with John McCain and Alan Keys.
That sounds good
That sounds good
What did he just say?!?
MirCat on December 4, 2007 at 5:09 PM
Flip flopper!!!
NTWR on December 4, 2007 at 5:27 PM
Allah, Bryan, and Michelle why don’t we get something out of the way early.
Who does this site want to be President. Because I don’t see support for anyone.
who do you want.
can you answer that.
ross
kara26 on December 4, 2007 at 5:28 PM
Why does it matter? This is a great site for political news. How would knowing their preferences make it any better?
Slublog on December 4, 2007 at 5:44 PM
Speaking for myself, I haven’t picked anyone. Every time I start to gravitate toward a candidate, something unacceptable pops up or a bad vibe starts to develop. So I haven’t ruled anyone in, but I have ruled one or two out at least for the time being.
Bryan on December 4, 2007 at 5:57 PM
Wow!
Latest the Rasmussen:
Giuliani 18%
Hucakbee 18%
McCain 14%
Thompson 13%
Romney 12%
MB4 on December 4, 2007 at 6:02 PM
Welcome to the Bigs, Huckster.
Anyone buying that McCain is beating Romney? Not I.
Rasmussen is rasberries.
HonestConservative on December 4, 2007 at 6:08 PM
Note that in Rasmussen the three liberals are 1, 2 and 3 and the two conservatives (granted giving Mitt some “poetic license” here) are 4 and 5 and the real conservatives (Tancredo and Hunter) are not even on the radar.
Goldwater and Reagan are weeping.
MB4 on December 4, 2007 at 6:11 PM
Hyperbolic statement much?
Frankly I prefer not to think of Reagan, in particular, as a crybaby.
Besides, Rudy is not a liberal despite your best (and mostly worst) efforts to portray him as such.
Buy Danish on December 4, 2007 at 6:58 PM
I just report.
His past words and actions have demonstrated that he is a liberal.
MB4 on December 4, 2007 at 7:15 PM
MB4,
Snooze.
Liberals are Marxists at heart who want big government, expanded social programs, weak national defense, high taxes, think sacreligious art exhibits are groovy, welcome dictators, and so forth.
That ain’t Rudy.
Buy Danish on December 4, 2007 at 7:41 PM
Buy Danish on December 4, 2007 at 7:41 PM
MB4 on December 4, 2007 at 8:03 PM
kara26 on December 4, 2007 at 9:07 PM
slugbug
It does matter. We are all human. Even those with the best intentions let their personnel beliefs come out. Its not the news they report, but the comments that they put with them. None of our candidates is anywhere close to being perfect. But when they don’t like some one, they really like some one.
I wonder; what would be the post from bryan and allah be, if a candidate came out and said- “Strong on terror, Strong on immigration, Strong on abortion, but I will raise taxes, I will expand the capital gains, I will expand ceiling on social security payments from $92 to $150 th. No School vouchers ever. All IPHONEs must be destroyed!!
What is it, what are the people running this site and those of you looking for?
You will not find it all in one person. Who is our worst enemy the dems or us?
I said this in one post before, you better wake up and choose some one younger (someone who looks alive) and can win. Do we want another Bob Dole. Hell bryan does not look old enough to remember that, i do know about the other two.
UNITE PEOPLE, UNITE! WHAT DO YOU WANT?
George Allen was my man, until this site and his self brought him down.
late
ross
kara26 on December 4, 2007 at 9:09 PM
Geez…my nick isn’t all that cool, but “bug?” That hurts.
This site has done critical and positive posts on each of the candidates, which does more to show their objectivity than anything else.
Hot Air brought down George Allen? News to me.
Slublog on December 4, 2007 at 9:16 PM
That’s news to me too.
Bryan on December 4, 2007 at 9:46 PM
You have the power!
Now, if it’s not too much trouble, could you make the Cowboys win the Super Bowl?
Thanks!
Slublog on December 4, 2007 at 9:52 PM
slublog, my bad, LOL, i don’t know where i got slugbug from, good lord. LOL, sorry.
george allen, was his did dig his own grave, but i think michelle through a couple of scoops of dirt on it. thats fair to say. anyway.
have seen more critical post than positive.
fred will not win a nation wide election. good man, stands for good things, but will not win.
sorry again for the slugbug, wow….
kara26 on December 4, 2007 at 11:03 PM
Huck isn’t getting my vote either… in the Primary.
CliffHanger on December 4, 2007 at 11:44 PM
Gov. Huckabee comes across too me, as a cross between Nelson Rockefeller on domestic issues, and Jimmy Carter on foreign affairs. For the life of me, I can’t understand why so many people think he’s a Conservative. Is it because he was a Baptist minister, or simply because he (and Sean Hannity) says so?
edgehead on December 4, 2007 at 11:55 PM
Sean Hannity is a very easy grader, after all he tells just about everyone who calls him that they are a Great American.
MB4 on December 5, 2007 at 2:23 AM
sorry again for the slugbug, wow….Haha. Don’t worry about it. I was joking – the mistake made me chuckle. You cannot imagine the odd ways this nick has been interpreted.
Slublog on December 5, 2007 at 6:47 AM
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