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Video: The View wonders, wouldn’t Christians be freaking out if a teddy bear was named Jesus?

posted at 6:32 pm on December 3, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Not freaking out freaking out but freaking out with parents objecting, perhaps a protest or two, etc. Like Whoopi, I’m guessing no, but our commenters will know better than I.

Consider this a bookend with Tammy Bruce’s clip this morning. Of all the angles to this story they could have covered, of all the airtime they could have devoted to raising awareness, the burning question on Barbara’s mind is whether the outrage of the Sudanese lynch mob is really all that different in principle from that of religious people in the U.S. A familiar subject, per Friday’s Financial Times. I must be going soft in my atheism if even I think it’s stupid.

Tomorrow’s show should be a humdinger.


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baldilocks on December 3, 2007 at 8:20 PM

I think its idolatry if an Imam says it is which is any time an infidel can be publicly sacrificed.

Speakup on December 3, 2007 at 9:02 PM

Infidel=Westerner.

Speakup on December 3, 2007 at 9:03 PM

This show is setting back the women’s movement by eons.

Hening on December 3, 2007 at 9:09 PM

I am far far FAR and away more freaked out by the 250 pounds of fecal matter stuffed in 150 pound bags hosting The View than I could ever be by anyone naming a Teddy Bear after the guy that mows my neighbors lawn.

SilverStar830 on December 3, 2007 at 9:13 PM

Following the theme, there’s stupid, and then there’s freaking stupid.

Merovign on December 3, 2007 at 9:18 PM

I think its idolatry if an Imam says it is which is any time an infidel can be publicly sacrificed.

Speakup on December 3, 2007 at 9:02 PM

You have a point there. However, in this case, the ROP is being consistent.

baldilocks on December 3, 2007 at 9:18 PM

The View…Of American liberal feminine stupidity….Could these imbecilic women possible be more retarded? God I seriously hope that their audience is smarter than they are…

doriangrey on December 3, 2007 at 9:19 PM

Oh and it’s damned frightening when Whoopi Goldberg is the voice of reason…

doriangrey on December 3, 2007 at 9:21 PM

Oh c’mon, what do you expect. These are the same type of people who, with a straight face and no shame, can equate George Bush with Adolph Hitler. To equate the mild offense of a Christian parent to the facist imprisonment of a school teacher is no stretch it all for that mind set.

After watching that clip, I am wondering how BaBa ever became such a “respected” journalist in the first place. She needs to go figure out what type of tree she would be.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 9:32 PM

Just a day or two ago I wrote here somewhere I never watch these clips of the View anymore. OK,, I watched this one. . Unbelievable.
“Sure, it’s really bad that they wanted to chop that teacher up and shoot her in the head and burn her body and drag it through the streets over there,, sure it’s bad,, BUT, but,, just hold your horses a minute,,,, you know,, somewhere somebody someplace wouldn’t like it at all if in some school some child named a teddy bear Jesus over here. I am sure we could find somebody somewhere someplace somehow that wouldn’t like it! They’d be real mad and maybe file a complaint! Probably protest!! So,, don’t go gettin all self righteous over here! Don’t go thinkin those people that want to chop up that teacher and shoot her in the head and set her on fire and hang her charred body from a tree so they could beat it with sticks are any different than some of the people somewhere someplace over here!!”
Yeah,, I’ll tell you what would happen over here Barbara!! The chances are it would be the teacher threatening the kid with sensitivity training and or expulsion for daring to use the name of Jesus during a class project! The principle would instruct the parents to advise their little Susie or Joey that the name of Jesus is offensive to sinners and can never be tolerated on school grounds! The family would be investigated by children services as well as the SPCA (just in case the parents were using the pets for animal sacrifices) and the ACLU would threaten a lawsuit!

JellyToast on December 3, 2007 at 9:38 PM

I wish one of the “ladies” had the balls to test out their theory. Get a teddy bear with a “jesus” nametag, and then go all out. Crucify the bear on a wooden cross, drench it in pigs blood, smear fecal matter all over its face and then decapitate it. The WORST that they would receive is a few angry emails because we are an EFFING CIVILIZED COUNTRY, not a bunch of savages who happen to live near each other and believe in the same pedophile.

muyoso on December 3, 2007 at 9:39 PM

One of my closest, dearest friends is muslim. She has a bird named mohammed. She says “allah” the way many of you would say “Oh my God!” She divorced her useless lying husband and has resisted all entreaties by the iman to take him back. She hangs around with an infidel Christian like me even though she’s told it’s probably not a good idea. She is free to do all those things because she lives in California, not Sudan.

Bob's Kid on December 3, 2007 at 9:43 PM

What if everyone in the civilized world re-named their sphincter “Mohammad”?

Would all proctologists then become honorary imams?

profitsbeard on December 3, 2007 at 9:45 PM

how about a stuffed gold lame’ calf named moses?

seriously though. if a teacher allowed a kid to name a teddybear jesus, the aclu would burn the school down.

i mean, you have to question what motivated barbara to stretch so just to get at some measure of exculpation by eqivalence.

jummy on December 3, 2007 at 9:49 PM

One of my closest,dearest friends is muslim.She has a bird
named mohammed…

Bob’s Kid on December 3,2007 at 9:43PM.

Bob’s kid:Bob,Bob,Bob,do you have any idea the danger
you have put yourself in,no,not having a muslim
friend,but having a friend,who named the bird
Mohammed.(just kidding,haha).

canopfor on December 3, 2007 at 10:00 PM

are they referring to this?

aclark on December 3, 2007 at 10:21 PM

Was Barbara always this stupid, and just came across different, or if not, what happened?

Entelechy on December 3, 2007 at 10:58 PM

Cultural relativism.

Big difference between saying something is “irreverent” and going out in the streets by the thousands yelling “samalamadingdong, death to the kafir!”

Tzetzes on December 3, 2007 at 10:59 PM

What’s scarier?

That Barbara Walters is that clueless or that in that discussion Whoopi Goldberg was the voice of reason? :o

Ronin11208 on December 3, 2007 at 11:31 PM

Listening to Whoopie is like listening to a drunk. Every so often something coherent and logical is said.

Zaire67 on December 4, 2007 at 12:30 AM

All of them are morons. I simply can’t imagine tuning in day after day. I only watch about half of your clips. I can’t stand more than that…
All of them, morons…

Babs on December 4, 2007 at 12:33 AM

Oh geez….Ron Paul is going on The View.

GT on December 4, 2007 at 12:42 AM

A cross in urine, a chocolate Jesus, a dung Mary. How many calls for death in resposne from Christians?

hadsil on December 4, 2007 at 1:24 AM

Half of my students are named Jesus, why would I want to name a teddy bear Jesus too?

Tim Burton on December 4, 2007 at 1:40 AM

What kind of world do we live in when Whoopi F’n Goldberg makes the most sense of all the people on a panel?

Sean M. on December 4, 2007 at 3:32 AM

If we didn’t demand death to these “artist” then why would we go nuts over a teddy bear names Jesus?

One could only imagine the insights these ladies would bring to the table if they collectedly put their 4 brain cells together.

SPIFF1669 on December 4, 2007 at 6:15 AM

If we didn’t riot and burn down the internets over the ‘baby Jesus buttplug’ that’s available for sale I don’t think a Jesus teddy bear is going to cause much of a stir.

(I have friends with eclectic googling habits.)

James on December 4, 2007 at 7:31 AM

There were many people during the time of Jesus named “Jesus.” It would not be nor should be considered irreverent to be named Jesus. Many people name their children Joshua and probably do not realize that this is the anglicized form of the Hebrew/Aramaic name Ieshua or Iehoshua, which Jesus would have been called.

Muslims would be the ones to object lose all sanity to a teddy bear even named Jesus since they recognize Jesus as a prophet of Islam. Islamic view of Jesus.

However, they are inconsistent when it comes to the fact that Jesus said that He and He alone was the path to God, not Mohammed and also by the fact that Jesus taught to love your enemy, a concept that is completely foreign to the worldview of Muslims. But would do Muslims care about inconsistency if it gives them the monopoly on anything.

Leave it to them to be offended by this utter nonsense.

ricelchew on December 4, 2007 at 8:43 AM

Disapproval = 40 lashes
Boy, are they smart.

RobCon on December 4, 2007 at 9:22 AM

Just in:

Italian Christians Riot Over
‘Blashphemous Red Bull Ad

And by “riot,” I mean one priest wrote a complaint email.

saint kansas on December 4, 2007 at 9:53 AM

Can we ship these idiots to Sudan, and then start a rumor that they have each 1) named a Teddy Bear after “the prophet” and 2) been gang raped by 9 men after being alone with them?

sabbott on December 4, 2007 at 9:54 AM

They got rid of Rosie, and Whoopi took over. They traded in a raving lib for an occasional conservative. Wha…?

MadisonConservative on December 4, 2007 at 9:56 AM

I love Bar-bwa wa-wa’s moral relevancy and tortured arguments of trying to equate radical Muslims wanting to jail and execute this school teacher in the Sudan to some imaginary outcry of something close like happening here in the U.S.

I think Barbara hung out too much with Rosie to believe “radical Christianity is just as dangerous as radical Islam” as Rosie puts it. I don’t think you’ll be seeing hordes of Christians massing in the streets chanting “death to the infidel!!!”. No school teachers will be jailed here because her class named a teddy bear “Jesus”.

Heck, if anything, the class would be jailed because they had the audacity to mention “Jesus” in a public school with the ACLU outside chanting “death to those who don’t believe in the separation of church and state!!!”…..;-)

Planet Boulder on December 4, 2007 at 10:09 AM

There are Jesus Action Figures, Moses Action Figures…which make me cringe, but I’m not demanding anyone be whipped or imprisoned.

Dork B. on December 4, 2007 at 10:12 AM

Right, Barbwa. We think someone who names their teddy bear Jesus should be stone, whipped, thrown in jail.

These people are total IDIOTS !

stenwin77 on December 4, 2007 at 10:15 AM

Actually there are many - from a cuddly plush Savior to the Action God with the Kung-Fu Grip.

Uugh.

Dork B. on December 4, 2007 at 10:19 AM

This just in:
Pope initiates new Crusade to vanquish the guys who made this.

corona on December 4, 2007 at 10:27 AM

Shows you she has never had the pleasure of calling out her boyfriend or husband, late at light…yes Jesus, oh yes!! She would have new respect for that name.

right2bright on December 4, 2007 at 10:46 AM

Note to Islamic apologists:

We get that not all Muslims are bloodthirsty savages, so this kind of thing only makes you look foolish. Failure to point out the ones that are only makes the situation worse.

Defense Guy on December 4, 2007 at 11:03 AM

Can I be offended that ABC named Barbara Walters a host of The View? That’s far more offensive than any hypothetical Jesus teddy bears.

Kensington on December 4, 2007 at 11:22 AM

Wow. Do these people even know any Christians?! The fact that they don’t is what is so astounding (and astoundingly ignorant) about these people. Second - I just bought a t-shirt that says, “What Wouldn’t Jesus do?” with a drawing of Jesus hanggliding. I’m a Christian. Not to mention - remember that episode of South Park when they couldn’t show Mohammed, but they showed Jesus at the end pooping on George Bush? They did that to make the point that Christians weren’t going to threaten the network or the South Park creators ~ and guess what! They didn’t! I guess if Baba Wawa were a real reporter instead of a hack she might know the answers to some of these questions.

foxforce91 on December 4, 2007 at 11:34 AM

To Whoopi’s credit, she had all the setup there to point out to Barbara that the “being offended” part isn’t where the Sudanese nutballs start running with a wheel in the sand. Instead that lisping idiot was allowed to comparmentalise the “horrible” part and get away with it.

“Look, we all know that Nicole Brown Simpson’s trachea being evicerated with a dull knife was “bad,” I’m just saying that even non-famous people would be outraged if their wife was sleeping with Marcus Allen.”

-T

The Therapist on December 4, 2007 at 11:46 AM

What’s really surprising, if you look at it in detail, is how much of Dawkins book (and BBC specials) are based on this sort of moral equivalence between Christianity and Islam.

It’s the “new atheists” bread and butter. Howl about Christian theocracy and then give case in point of Islamic jihadists.

John on December 4, 2007 at 12:10 PM

Wow. Do these people even know any Christians?!

foxforce91 on December 4, 2007 at 11:34 AM

Whoopee does

It is Big Babba who obviously fears the Christian mobs carrying torches in her direction

Too bad she cannot see the difference between ‘find the Jew and kill him’ and the Sermon on the Mount

I am delighted not offended by a child naming his teddy Jesus but I am neither offended nor delighted by the prejudice (pre-judging) against Christians shown by Walters

She can keep on clucking. She is a passive babbler. She is however of no use to me in my war to defend my nation

I worry about the Teddy Bear mobs in Sudan who support al quaeda and want to kill Jews, Hindus and Christians in that order

entagor on December 4, 2007 at 12:14 PM

Instead that lisping idiot was allowed to comparmentalise the “horrible” part and get away with it.

Amen, Mr T.

How many times have we heard allegedly intelligent people say, “Well, I agree that Saddam was a bad guy, but…”

And it’s a stretch for them to be that “judgmental.”

saint kansas on December 4, 2007 at 12:45 PM

The Christians wouldn’t freak out, the Secular Progressives…(Bill’s term…not mine) would have a serious problem.

AprilOrit on December 4, 2007 at 12:58 PM

No, they wouldn’t. And any “Christian” who thought anyone in a similar situation should get jail time or be beheaded would be immediately denounced by every true Christian.

Me thinks Barbara is letting her religious bigotry show!

taznar on December 4, 2007 at 1:05 PM

Apparently she has never driven around East L.A. There are plastic Jesus, and Mary figures on every cars dashboard. How about a “lowrider” with Jesus painted on the trunk…nothing like an Impala, with two-pump hookup with two dumps for Jesus, booming out rap music.

right2bright on December 4, 2007 at 1:22 PM

If a teacher in the US allowed a child to name a teddy bear Jesus, there might be an out cry, but it would not be from Christians, but from the Secular Humanists that would object to the use of Jesus’s name in public school. They would scream Separation of Church and State.

donsingleton on December 4, 2007 at 1:31 PM

Yeah remember all that rioting after that “artist” put a crucifix in a jar of urine for an NEA funded art show?

Benaiah on December 4, 2007 at 1:31 PM

No joke. I Mohammad you not.

Professor Blather on December 3, 2007 at 7:35 PM

Priceless!

silenced majority on December 4, 2007 at 1:51 PM

Yeah remember all that rioting after that “artist” put a crucifix in a jar of urine for an NEA funded art show?

I remember it well and what about the Christian wingnuts who attacked David Wojnarowicz? He fought it in court and was issued an injuction against Donald Wildmon and the American Family Association.

Real Republicans favor government tiny enough to, what does Grover Norquist say - to flush down the bathtub with the bath water. You want the government involved in censorship, legislating social issues and in your bedroom?

Join The Constitution Party.

AprilOrit on December 4, 2007 at 2:22 PM

Babs has just lost it here. That was the dumbest analogy I had ever heard until I read the previous post by AprilOrit. What most people were upset about the NEA was that tax money paid for this “art”. It was only done for shock value. Take someone else’s money to do it and don’t use tax-payer funds to pee in a jar and call it art.

woodman on December 4, 2007 at 3:40 PM

If a teacher in a public school allowed the kids to name a teddy bear Jesus there would be a tremendous explosion of rage and condemnation - from the ACLU.

aengus on December 4, 2007 at 3:56 PM

Take someone else’s money to do it and don’t use tax-payer funds to pee in a jar and call it art.

Art like looks is sometimes within the eye of the beholder. And the NEA has been around for a longtime, most moderate - mainstream Republicans, as opposed to fundamentialist wingnuts, have no problem with it, they also contribute heartily through donations, like my parents. If they wanted to get rid of it - it would have been dissolved long ago.

The piece was actually merely a photograph of a crucifix resting in urine, based on the artist’s description if I remember correctly. Not a bell jar full of real urine sitting on a pedestal.

I had a problem with my tax money going toward prayer initutives, and that received no private donations at all - just tax money. Take someone else’s money to do it and don’t use tax-payer funds to see if God is listening.

AprilOrit on December 4, 2007 at 4:17 PM

The analogy with Jesus would only really work if Gibbons had named the bear “Allah”. That would be blasphemy on either side, but since that wasn’t what happened it’s a moot point. As many have noted above, the profusion of “Jesus Junk” is a bit of a scandal in modern Christianity, but no one is getting beaten or jailed for it.

But even when they were, the accused were given an opportunity to repent and promise to mend their ways. Even in the bad old days of the inquisitions, only about 10% of those accused were interrogated under torture and less than 1% were actually convicted. This isn’t to excuse the inquisitions by any means, but the point is, even at its worst, the Chrsitendom did not punish honest mistakes, which seems to be the case with Gibbons.

JackOfClubs on December 4, 2007 at 4:42 PM

I think I want to name my next dog Mohamed.

paulsur on December 4, 2007 at 10:45 PM

I thought there were only Three Stooges……..

Janos Hunyadi on December 4, 2007 at 11:01 PM

Behead those who offend Karl Marx !

Syndic Nuruodo on December 4, 2007 at 11:01 PM

What is wrong with these mother****ing morons? Yeah, I said it, so?

THESE PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS. I said it again! I feel better. Carry on.

Metro on December 5, 2007 at 12:33 AM

Barbara and her vapid airhead friends never had a grasp of history, but they can’t even remember things from the past few years.

Remember Piss Christ? Remember Dung Mary?

Christians have intolerant, offensive garbage thrown our their faces all the time, and these mental midgets think a kindergarten class naming their Teddy Bear Jesus would set us off?

How do these people even breathe under their own power?

BKennedy on December 5, 2007 at 9:05 AM

Would not bother me at all.

Remember Piss Christ? Remember Dung Mary?

Christians have intolerant, offensive garbage thrown our their faces all the time, and these mental midgets think a kindergarten class naming their Teddy Bear Jesus would set us off?

Yep. We objected to that and the chattering classes basically told us to suck it up. Piss Christ and elephant dung Madonna were ART

I live in fear that I will be stuck in a waiting room with The View. It’s happened before and all I can say is waterboard me, or tase me bro. Just not THE VIEW!!!!!

Ellen on December 5, 2007 at 11:16 AM

Okay, greggriffith, but would you have an issue if they named the teddy bear “Clippy”? How about Katharine?

Shay on December 5, 2007 at 3:12 PM

In fact, greggriffith, what if they named it Iker or Duncan or Akinola or Orombi?

What if they named it G2 or CJ?

Shay on December 5, 2007 at 3:13 PM

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