And the reason Huck is gaining is that his supporters believe he can turn this country into the Christian version of Iran, economic prosperity and national security be damned.

Never mind that if you take away the religious devotion and throw in a few extramarital bj’s from his interns he’s just another Bill Clinton.

THAT’S WHAT REAL FOLKS WITH NO AGENDA THOUGHT.

Ex-tex on December 3, 2007 at 1:20 PM

Saying that every thought Fred won the debate is a bit of a stretch. Insider advantage did a survey immediately after the debate:
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_insideradvantage_post_deb.php and Huckabee won it according to voters in NH and IA, which may be the reason he is rising in the polls not a fox news/rupert murdoch conspiracy.

damn you chuck norris! damn youuuuuuuu

Weeeelllllll…. Huck may have Chuck Norris, but can he tell me where to find Manrik’s wife?

http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres08/screp8-710.html

but you won’t hear about that here at “down with rudy” central.
;)

Voters in Iowa can’t be seeing the real Huck or he would be nowhere in the polls.

A picture of that womans butt should be in every plastic surgeons office.

Aww Bkennedy’s man spent 7 to 11 million in Iowa to have it go

Poof!

EricPWJohnson on December 3, 2007 at 2:00 PM

Yawn. It’s his money to spend, and the primaries haven’t even started yet.

Go back to throwing darts at a picture of Mitt on your discount dartboard.

You really should get something done about that class envy thing, btw.

The candidate that takes Texas will take the election this year. Who is ahead in Texas among all voters?

And don’t look at past elections either, this time it’s different. Texas’ mix of Democratic/Republican/Independent voters now matches for the most part the rest of the country. Texas is a microcosm of the US now.

The candidate who wins Texas will win the election.

Poof!

I just can’t come up with a reasonable theory to explain this Huckabee surge that doesn’t cross the line into pure nuttery and paranoid conspiracy theory territory.

What is going on?!

aero on December 3, 2007 at 12:15 PM

With Rudy, Huck, Hillary and Obama the top contenders for leadership of the free world, and with Ron Paul and Coocooniche in the race, (not to mention some of the others), isn’t the answer obvious? Clearly aliens are taking over the planet. Duh.

Frank Luntz’s REAL republican voter group chose Fred the winner of the CNN/Ytube debate- BEFORE ANY PUNDITS got to’em.

Yes. Surely they were inspired by his 2 minute social security droning after being asked what 3 programs he would cut.

Or perhaps it was when he got slapped in the face by Mitt in response to his negative ad.

I was certainly inspired by the world’s tallest old man robot.

THAT’S WHAT REAL FOLKS WITH NO AGENDA THOUGHT.

Ex-tex on December 3, 2007 at 1:20 PM

I have a hard time taking the focus groups, which are basically partisan-led polls of groups of sample size = 12. They’re what we call a “stupid media trick” and a way for a guy like Luntz to make a living, nothing more.

If, God forbid, a shopping mall was blown up, who’d give a flying crap about how Rudy’s security guards were paid years ago, or what and how and whom they guarded?

There’s actually a local push to do just that, but it’s probably DOA as a republican “dirty trick”.

Really? Good luck with that. CA could really turn the tide if that got enacted!

Yes…republican ‘dirty tricks’. How dare they suggest that the people be accurately represented in this free republic! The bastards! ;-)

Look how many here buy into the Fred is a lazy loser label.
Murdoch (FOXnews, Wall Street Journal) wants OPEN BORDERS folks so FOX is pushin’ Huck right now. Make NO mistake though Murdoch’ll be happy with Rudy or Mitt or Huck or Hillary- Just as long as it ain’t Fred or Duncan!

On Rudy:
Frank Luntz’s REAL republican voter group chose Fred the winner of the CNN/Ytube debate- BEFORE ANY PUNDITS got to’em.

He also mentioned that EVERY Rudy supporter changed their vote by the end og the debate. EVERY ONE, FOLKS.

No GOP voters left in that room supportin’ Rudy once they were forced to actually listen to his positions. And, by the way, Huck was WAY down at the bottom too.

THAT’S WHAT REAL FOLKS WITH NO AGENDA THOUGHT.

Ex-tex on December 3, 2007 at 1:20 PM

Ochlan on December 3, 2007 at 12:42 PM

There’s actually a local push to do just that, but it’s probably DOA as a republican “dirty trick”.

I don’t like Fred, but this is just bizarre.

I know. It’s the old “Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich” dilemma (thank you, South Park).

aero on December 3, 2007 at 1:11 PM

Aaaaaaaand that will conclude my lunch break.

The more I hear about these candidates the more I like {shudder} McCain. Our choices are getting less and less palatable.

Tyrs Fury on December 3, 2007 at 1:08 PM

I know. It’s the old “Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich” dilemma (thank you, South Park).

I find it hard to believe that Rudy, the opposite of Huckabee in many ways, is losing voters to him so maybe the expense scandal is starting to cost him. Or maybe it’s fallout from his poor showing at the debate. Any theories?

I think Rudy looked really weak in the debate, and the expense scandal is starting to show some teeth. He can’t keep bleeding to “undecided” though, because the more he bleeds, the closer Thompson, Romney, McCain, Huckabee and Paul get, and people who hold back from supporting “less plausible” candidates might feel better about voting their conscience. (I left McCain out of that list, because he tends to be more polarizing. You love McCain or you hate him. There’s not a whole lot of wiggle room. Outside of New Hampshire, he’s not going anywhere.) I’d thought for a long time that a Giuliani nomination was inevitable, but it looks like we have a real race going now.