MNF thread: Will the Patriots go to 12-0 against the Ravens?

posted at 8:33 pm on December 3, 2007 by Bryan

I say they do. The Ravens are in a state of free fall and Patriots…aren’t. The only X-factor here is the weather — it’s freezing in Baltimore and maybe that’ll make a punt roll weird or something. Without a whole lotta luck, the Ravens don’t stand much of a chance.

Since the game itself isn’t likely to produce much interest, I’ll leave you with this:

Yesterday, they named him PorkChop. Today, his name is Ferrous. The Lehigh Valley IronPigs say they’ve changed the name of the team’s mascot. Team officials say the switch was made when it was brought to their attention that the initial name could potentially be offensive to members of the community.

“…members of the community.” Now who would get offended at a pork-related mascot name?

Update: Well, I’m genuinely surprised. PorkChop didn’t offend Muslims, it offended Hispanics.

Two days after naming its mascot “PorkChop,” the Philadelphia Phillies’ new Triple-A affiliate abruptly dropped the moniker after receiving complaints from Hispanics that it was offensive.

The Lehigh Valley IronPigs, whose mascot is a large, furry pig, had selected PorkChop from more than 7,300 fan submissions. The team, which begins play in 2008, announced Monday that the mascot will be named “Ferrous” instead.

General Manager Kurt Landes said he heard from several Hispanics who said PorkChop was derogatory.

“We were really unaware of any negative connotations with the word ‘pork chop,’” he said. “If it offended a few, it’s a few too many.”

Guillermo Lopez, vice president of the Latino Leadership Alliance, said he was called “pork chop” when he worked at Bethlehem Steel decades ago.

“If my parents were alive, they’d be having fits,” said Lopez, among those who complained to the team. “It meant much more to them than it does to Puerto Ricans now in the Lehigh Valley.”

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kornheiser’s speech was more pointless than normal tonight.

lorien1973 on December 3, 2007 at 8:35 PM

lorien1973 on December 3, 2007 at 8:35 PM

I didn’t hear it but I’ve heard him on other weeks, so I find your statement impossible to believe.

Bryan on December 3, 2007 at 8:37 PM

I want the Pats to lose just so the orgasms will stop. Look for another MNF game to have 90% of stupid dramatic back story, 5% of actual game analysis and content, 5% of dead silence. (ISN’T THE PATRIOT TEAM THE GREATEST MOST BESTEST TEAM IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD!)

Weight of Glory on December 3, 2007 at 8:39 PM

Pats have to go 19-0. Miami has to go 0-16. There’s a certain beauty in that, don’t you think?

lorien1973 on December 3, 2007 at 8:40 PM

Kornholio reminds me of E.T. after being pulled from a freezing river – only with more hair…and relevance.

kiakjones on December 3, 2007 at 8:40 PM

Kickoff into the end zone. And we’ve probably seen the Ravens’ most positive play of the night.

Bryan on December 3, 2007 at 8:41 PM

The pats are up 28-0 already :O

lorien1973 on December 3, 2007 at 8:41 PM

At least BB removed his sweatband and hoodie in respect to Taylor.

kiakjones on December 3, 2007 at 8:42 PM

Do IronPigs fly?

Hopefully right into every CAIR office across the country.

MrC_5150 on December 3, 2007 at 8:44 PM

Dangit! with protection like that, it’s going to be a long night for the Ravens.

Weight of Glory on December 3, 2007 at 8:44 PM

Seriously, watching the Patriots play can be like watching a Madden afficianado play a n00b.

Bryan on December 3, 2007 at 8:45 PM

Awesome already. As much as I usually hate east coast teams I just love this dominance.

CTDeLude on December 3, 2007 at 8:46 PM

Now who would get offended at a pork-related mascot name?

Vegans?

O-Dub on December 3, 2007 at 8:46 PM

Bryan on December 3, 2007 at 8:45 PM

As much as I hate it, they are great.

Weight of Glory on December 3, 2007 at 8:46 PM

Seriously, watching the Patriots play can be like watching a Madden afficianado play a n00b.

Bryan on December 3, 2007 at 8:45 PM

*Shudders*

That brings back memories for me…being the noob.

CTDeLude on December 3, 2007 at 8:47 PM

Great D!

Weight of Glory on December 3, 2007 at 8:47 PM

3rd and goal

Weight of Glory on December 3, 2007 at 8:48 PM

Pats have to go 19-0.

Pats lose in the playoffs.

Spirit of 1776 on December 3, 2007 at 8:48 PM

I want NE to go undefeated just to see the haters’ heads explode.

SouthernGent on December 3, 2007 at 8:48 PM

The only X-factor here is the weather — it’s freezing in Baltimore and maybe that’ll make a punt roll weird or something.

It’s important to remember though, that New England deals with crappy weather far more than any other team, so they stand a better chance of coping with it than Baltimore.

RightWinged on December 3, 2007 at 8:50 PM

Field goal??!?!?! WHA!?!

kiakjones on December 3, 2007 at 8:51 PM

YES!

I want NE to go undefeated just to see the haters’ heads explode.

SouthernGent on December 3, 2007 at 8:48 PM

It’s a risk I’m willing to take. This hate feels soooo right.

Weight of Glory on December 3, 2007 at 8:52 PM

BP – who would win between the n00bs and the w00ts????

my $$ would be on the w00ts.

Mike D. on December 3, 2007 at 8:56 PM

Score/period?….sorry….ESPN challenged here.

Limerick on December 3, 2007 at 8:57 PM

w00ts, of course. Only a n00b would ask such a question.

Bryan on December 3, 2007 at 8:57 PM

Limerick on December 3, 2007 at 8:57 PM

3-0 pats in the 1st. Balt just punted.

Weight of Glory on December 3, 2007 at 9:00 PM

500,000 cash poker on gsn. time to start flippin’ back and forth

i love sammy farha and daniel negreanu :P

lorien1973 on December 3, 2007 at 9:01 PM

“…members of the community.” Now who would get offended at a pork-related mascot name?

the jooos?

oh, wait… they might be peacefully offended, and fire of a strongly worded letter to the editor…

Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on December 3, 2007 at 9:07 PM

I didn’t hear it but I’ve heard him on other weeks, so I find your statement impossible to believe.

Bryan on December 3, 2007 at 8:37 PM

Heh. I have found this particular group of know-nothing sports broadcasters measurably more full of crap than any of the previous ones. I simply will not listen to them.

Kornholer is vile, but they are all unwatchable. And the celebrity guests should be targets for fan’s projectiles.

Jaibones on December 3, 2007 at 9:08 PM

Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on December 3, 2007 at 9:07 PM

Check the update. Twas Hispanic outrage that renamed the beast.

Bryan on December 3, 2007 at 9:08 PM

Yesterday, they named him PorkChop. Today, his name is Ferrous. The Lehigh Valley IronPigs say they’ve changed the name of the team’s mascot. Team officials say the switch was made when it was brought to their attention that the initial name could potentially be offensive to members of the community.

So does Pork Chop Womack, O-lineman for the Seahawks, have to change his nick name? I am surprised that the Seattle Post Intelligencer has started a campaign to rename Pork Chop in order to be oh so PC.

In Seattle, Pork Chop is more appropriate than Ferrous. After the last 24 hours of deluge we’ve had, he would have rusted through and through.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 9:12 PM

Baltimore scores. Who are you and what have you done with the actual Ravens offense?

Bryan on December 3, 2007 at 9:15 PM

The New England Patriots are in a superclass, you have AFC, then NFC, then the Patriots. They are unbeatable! We should send Brady and Co. to fight Al Qaeda and the Taliban. We should send them to Iran to keep order. We should… ogh wait a minute… Baltimore just scored… nevermind!!1

IntheNet on December 3, 2007 at 9:15 PM

Guillermo Lopez, vice president of the Latino Leadership Alliance, said he was called “pork chop” when he worked at Bethlehem Steel decades ago.

oy. Poor Guillermo was called a name decades ago, and now all mention of the name “Pork Chop” must be excised from the local culture. In a steel mill, I bet all sorts of guys were called all sorts of names. Didn’t scar them for life.

This may lead to a trend, including weight-challenged men and their motorcycles.

“We were really unaware of any negative connotations with the word ‘pork chop,’” he said. “If it offended a few, it’s a few too many then they need to get over it and stop bothering us with their personal issues.”

Fixed it.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 9:21 PM

As far as the Patriots go, I would like to see them go undefeated, as long as Miami goes winless. There is some beautiful symmetry in breaking the ’72 Dolphins record in such a manner.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 9:23 PM

The game is close but I still think the Pats will prevail, which is cool with me. I hate the Ravens. But I do hope Suggs and Co. take a chunk out of Brady’s hide tonite. I’d like to see him a little wobbly when he faces my Steelers next weekend.

DrW on December 3, 2007 at 9:45 PM

This game has been totally “wtf mate?”

BKennedy on December 3, 2007 at 10:28 PM

Baltimore scores. Who are you and what have you done with the actual Ravens offense Patriots Defense?

Fixed it for ya.

kiakjones on December 3, 2007 at 10:29 PM

HA I SAY! HA!

Nonfactor on December 3, 2007 at 10:49 PM

The Ravens and Magahee are playing inspired. 24-17 with most of the 4th quarter to go. Are the Patriots throats tightening?

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 10:51 PM

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 10:51 PM

I wouldn’t count the Patriots out now, especially considering their propensity for rallying to win in the fourth quarter.

Nonfactor on December 3, 2007 at 10:52 PM

Nata is a stud. He’s one tough Oregon Duck.

Two straight sacks. The Patriots are in unfamiliar territory.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 10:54 PM

DAMN do i wish I bet on this game against the patriots.

muyoso on December 3, 2007 at 10:55 PM

Big runback and the Ravens have a short field. Big Mo is sitting the the Ravens side of the field right now.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 10:55 PM

Don Shula is such a weeeenie!

SouthernGent on December 3, 2007 at 10:56 PM

Football would be perfect, if not for the commercials. MNF is the worst, especially sitting at the stadium waiting waiting waiting at every change of possession.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 10:57 PM

Well, that’s what I get for saying that the Ravens are in free fall.

Bryan on December 3, 2007 at 10:57 PM

Oh, my! The Ravens up 7 at the NE 30.

Jaibones on December 3, 2007 at 10:58 PM

you must be good on 3rd down to sustain drives.

Turico is a genius!

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 10:59 PM

Ooops. That will help change the momentum. Not a good throw. There wasn’t a Raven in the picture.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:01 PM

That may be the only thing I have agreed with you on Nonfactor.

kiakjones on December 3, 2007 at 11:01 PM

The Comcast Housemates sure look like a bunch of cool dudes. Makes me wish I was back in college and had a snappy jingle for my little group.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:02 PM

The Ravens made the best of a bad situation and held the Pats to a field goal. That was a 6 point swing though. The 3 the Ravens may have scored and the 3 the Pats did.

Lets see if the Ravens can ideate a way to get back in the end zone.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:08 PM

Oh, f**k. I hate all these d@mn commercials. Just play the game!

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:09 PM

The Pats have stiffened. 3 and out, The Raven QB looks rattled. Pats have good field position.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:13 PM

baltimore is gonna let this slip away.

lorien1973 on December 3, 2007 at 11:13 PM

Sputter, sputter, sputter. The Patriots have only one or two chances left.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:19 PM

BTW, nice that they have skipped commercials during the last two possession changes.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:19 PM

Here we go. Brady gets another chance. 70 some yards to go.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:22 PM

Rolle isn’t ready to go home yet. Bam that was a hit.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:23 PM

Anyone know who the 91 represents on the Patriots helmet?

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:24 PM

what’s up with this damn 3 man rush on brady.. it’s not working…

burnitup on December 3, 2007 at 11:25 PM

They haven’t gone to Randy Moss yet this drive. 2 mins. to go.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:25 PM

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:24 PM

Marquise Hill. died earlier this year. I forget how.

lorien1973 on December 3, 2007 at 11:26 PM

2 Minute Warning. The Undefeateds need 50 yards and a touchdown to stay that way.

Best MNF game of the year so far.

Mike D. on December 3, 2007 at 11:26 PM

what’s up with this damn 3 man rush on brady.. it’s not working…

burnitup on December 3, 2007 at 11:25 PM

Prevent defense never does. All it does is let the offense work down the field. The Ravens are going to make a stand in the red zone.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:27 PM

4th and 1. This could be it!

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:28 PM

haha. i loved that timeout.

lorien1973 on December 3, 2007 at 11:29 PM

Boneheads. They had them. Oh, well. They better regroup. They did it once. The Ravens have to do it again.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:29 PM

Sloppy sloppy. This may be better for the Pats. Brady goes down field and scores a touchdown now.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:30 PM

defense should be able to decline false start. game over if they could.

lorien1973 on December 3, 2007 at 11:30 PM

this is almost as good as the bucs/saints game yesterday ;)

lorien1973 on December 3, 2007 at 11:32 PM

How fun would it be to be in that stadium right now!

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:33 PM

Best game of the season.

Nonfactor on December 3, 2007 at 11:33 PM

What a game! I can almost hear the staium from Raleigh!

SouthernGent on December 3, 2007 at 11:34 PM

5 yards to go. What’s going to be the call. Look for Moss in the end zone and a check down if he isn’t

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:34 PM

this is crazy! holding on 4th down.

lorien1973 on December 3, 2007 at 11:35 PM

Can you believe this. The Ravens have run out of feet to shot themselves in

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:35 PM

holy crap! you all been watching these last couple minutes!?

RightWinged on December 3, 2007 at 11:35 PM

td patriots 44 seconds left. geesh.

lorien1973 on December 3, 2007 at 11:36 PM

TD. No way they overturn that.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:36 PM

haha, “throwing the refree’s flag in to the stands”.

RightWinged on December 3, 2007 at 11:37 PM

and two penalties against Ravens

kiakjones on December 3, 2007 at 11:37 PM

He bobbled it a little bit.

mesablue on December 3, 2007 at 11:37 PM

ive never seen that penalty before.

lorien1973 on December 3, 2007 at 11:37 PM

The Ravens have imploded. They will get the ball on the 20 and have to go 50 yards to try a field goal.

Would Belichick try for 2? That would take some guts.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:38 PM

holy crap! you all been watching these last couple minutes!?

RightWinged on December 3, 2007 at 11:35 PM

I repeat my previous statement:

This entire game has been “wtf mate?”

BKennedy on December 3, 2007 at 11:38 PM

They can’t possibly overturn that call…

SouthernGent on December 3, 2007 at 11:38 PM

Tirico is typical media type: create a controversy where one doesn’t exist.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:39 PM

And the refs hand the game to the Pats. Un-friggin-believable.

packsoldier on December 3, 2007 at 11:40 PM

minus 35? on the kick off?

kiakjones on December 3, 2007 at 11:40 PM

Scott has a good arm. Maybe the Orioles could use him.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:41 PM

Oh, my… I love raw testosterone….

SouthernGent on December 3, 2007 at 11:41 PM

patriots have been really exposed 2 weeks in a row. get to brady and you can win it.

lorien1973 on December 3, 2007 at 11:41 PM

The refs didn’t hand anyone the game. Baltimore fell apart.

mesablue on December 3, 2007 at 11:42 PM

And the refs hand the game to the Pats. Un-friggin-believable.

packsoldier on December 3, 2007 at 11:40 PM

I don’t see that. The Ravens screwed themselves the last 3 minutes of the game.

Mallard T. Drake on December 3, 2007 at 11:42 PM

And the refs hand the game to the Pats. Un-friggin-believable.

packsoldier on December 3, 2007 at 11:40 PM

Sourpuss? Explain how they handed the game away.

SouthernGent on December 3, 2007 at 11:42 PM

You know what sucks? There’s 44 seconds left. Unlikely, but the Ravens could get lucky and score

RightWinged on December 3, 2007 at 11:43 PM

13/100 penalties killed Baltimore…dude, throwing a refs falg?!?!

kiakjones on December 3, 2007 at 11:44 PM

They’ll go to the air and Samuels will intercept.

kiakjones on December 3, 2007 at 11:44 PM

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