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Hillary goes negative on Obama

posted at 10:46 am on December 3, 2007 by Bryan
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Now that it’s really really a race, Mrs. Inevitable has to leap into the trenches for some fisticuffs.

Senator Clinton turned up the heat on Barack Obama on Sunday, saying the race comes down to “courage and convictions” — and blasting Obama’s positions on health care and his Political Action Committee as lacking both.

Hillary came out firing on the health care before she took even a single question at a media availability in Cedar Rapids, accusing Obama of changing his tune on whether his plan covers all Americans depending on the audience. “Yesterday, in the space of a few hours, it went from universal when I wasn’t there, to comprehensive when we were on the same [stage],” she said — a reference to Saturday’s Black/Brown Presidential Forum in Iowa, where Obama seemed to be at great pains not to call his plan “universal.”

Oh, Obama’s plan is universal all right. It’s also totalitarian, but never mind that since it seems to be a common feature among Democrat health plans. To her credit, at least Clinton’s plan gets to “universal” coverage by tax breaks rather than wage garnishing as Edwards’ and Obama’s plans do. Or at least that’s what her web site says. Who knows what she’ll do if she actually has the reins of power?

Back to Hillary’s attack on Obama. She treads into territory that’s unwise for a Clinton.

And asked whether she was saying this was an issue of character when it comes to Senator Obama, Senator Clinton at first demurred — but then said “it’s beginning to look a lot like that. You know, it really is, where you can’t get a straight answer on health care; where somebody who runs on ethics and not taking money from certain people is found out to have at least skirted if not violated the FEC rules, and to use lobbyist and PAC money to do so.”

Throughout the 90s and especially after 1998, we were told that character in a president didn’t count. Now it does? If so, Mrs. Clinton is opening herself up to a world of questions. Rose law firm records…? Etc.

There’s video of Clinton ripping Obama at the link. She carries the disadvantages of being in no position to question anyone’s character, and of being particularly off-putting when going on the attack. Bill Clinton could attack you with a wink and make you smile at the same time. Hillary Clinton possesses no such charm.

Update: You want to talk about character, Sen. Clinton? Ok.

Documents obtained by the Los Angeles Times show how Hsu’s business associates traded on his connections — going so far as to claim that former President Clinton was a Hsu client — to lure investors into a scheme that took in tens of millions of dollars nationwide.

A marketing brochure distributed by an Orange County firm to attract investors to Hsu’s business claimed the 56-year-old Hong Kong native’s “extensive political investment community includes former President Bill Clinton, who continues to invest to this day.”

Howard Wolfson, a Clinton spokesman, denied that the former president had invested with Hsu. And Sen. Clinton’s financial disclosure statements show no investments or income from Hsu for her or her husband.

Still, as a marketing tactic, the claim may have worked all too well: A Southern California couple recently filed a lawsuit saying they lost more than $3 million in a Hsu-run Ponzi scheme — based in part on the brochure’s promises.

In September, federal prosecutors charged Hsu, saying he defrauded investors out of $60 million and violated federal election laws for reimbursing political donors for contributions made in their names.

There’s more where that came from.


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You know, it really is, where you can’t get a straight answer on health care;

I guess she’s looking for an answer on health care as clear and unwavering as her answer on drivers licenses for illegals.

Weight of Glory on December 3, 2007 at 10:50 AM

Obama realized a trick that the dems like to do. Iowa is a caucus state so much less oversight than in a primary.

His campaign realized that a lot of Illinois students go to college in Iowa as its cheaper. So he is asking them to vote in the Caucuses using the college dorms as Iowa addresses.

Hillary should worry less about Iowa and more about New Hampshire.

William Amos on December 3, 2007 at 10:58 AM

Funny you should bring up Hsu when more evidence is coming out that it was Obama who leaked that story to the press.

William Amos on December 3, 2007 at 10:59 AM

The Clintons didn’t invent promising anything to get elected, and then not producing results. They just turned it into an art form.

Hening on December 3, 2007 at 10:59 AM

Who knows what she’ll do if she actually has the reins of power?

Hundred million and one…hundred million and two….

ScottG on December 3, 2007 at 11:01 AM

If only we could open the Clintons closet……
The cloak of deceit.
The cloak of deception.
The cloak of lies etc, etc.
I am sure many more can be added.

leanright on December 3, 2007 at 11:05 AM

Two words. Remote starter.

LtE126 on December 3, 2007 at 11:07 AM

Senator Clinton turned up the heat on Barack Obama on Sunday, saying the race comes down to “courage and convictions” — and blasting Obama’s positions on health care and his Political Action Committee as lacking both.

Is Hillary saying that African-American men are cowards?

I’m pretty sure that’s what she’s saying.

saint kansas on December 3, 2007 at 11:12 AM

Is Hillary saying that African-American men are cowards?

I’m pretty sure that’s what she’s saying.

saint kansas on December 3, 2007 at 11:12 AM

Ah, but you see Obama isn’t “authentically black,” he’s “Halfrican.” So it doesn’t count.

BKennedy on December 3, 2007 at 11:17 AM

I’ll have the popcorn ready in the next 15 minutes or so. This is going to get good. Hillary is going to slice and dice Mr. Obama with the expertise of a Benihana chef.

Matticus Finch on December 3, 2007 at 11:18 AM

So much for the “politics of hope“.

BacaDog on December 3, 2007 at 11:29 AM

Depending on how Obama responds to this will show whether he is running for president or Hillary’s VP.

Bill C on December 3, 2007 at 11:47 AM

Throughout the 90s and especially after 1998, we were told that character in a president didn’t count. Now it does? If so, Mrs. Clinton is opening herself up to a world of questions. Rose law firm records…? Etc.

OH PLEASE , PLEASE LET IT BE SO!

shooter on December 3, 2007 at 12:10 PM

Two words. Remote starter.
LtE126 on December 3, 2007 at 11:07 AM

Ahhh, perfect. good one!
.
The Clinton Ponzi Mafia.

shooter on December 3, 2007 at 12:14 PM

From the Shill’s site:

Hillary would give tax credits to small businesses that provide health care to their workers to help defray their coverage costs. This will make small businesses more competitive and help create good jobs with health benefits that will stay here in the US.

What a crock.
She will make every small business in America PAY for insurance for every employee. Period. Part time, full time, holiday help, it wont matter to hillary. Even ‘Basement Betty’s’ as we call ‘em, all the people who work out of their homes are screwed if they have even one employee. The tax credit will only be a tiny piece of the cost. It won’t work.
80% of businesses have fewer than 10 employees, but government considers ’small business’ to be under 500 employees.
This will kill what remains of true small business in America.

shooter on December 3, 2007 at 12:27 PM

If only we could open the Clintons closet……
The cloak of deceit.
The cloak of deception.
The cloak of lies etc, etc.
I am sure many more can be added.

She plays D&D?

Ochlan on December 3, 2007 at 12:46 PM

You know, it really is, where you can’t get a straight answer on health care anything

from the Clintons, both of them.

Entelechy on December 3, 2007 at 12:58 PM

Gee, was this the same Black/Brown Presidential Forum that Hillary had to phone into because she made a side-trip to New Hampshire on Friday to give her “regal” performance in the wake of the hostage crisis?

From the Las Vegas Sun, Dec 2, 2007 ……

Clinton drew some boos at the opening forum when she was asked if she would pledge to pass comprehensive immigration reform in her first 100 days in office. She said immigration overhaul “would be a high priority” and she would do “as much as possible” to urge Congress to act, well short of a promise.

“Hello, this is Queen Hillary, can everyone hear me.”

“BOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo”.

Heh.

fogw on December 3, 2007 at 1:04 PM

Throughout the 90s and especially after 1998, we were told that character in a president didn’t count. Now it does? If so, Mrs. Clinton is opening herself up to a world of questions. Rose law firm records…? Etc.

The Clintons talking about the need for character is like David Duke talking about the evils of racism.

BKennedy on December 3, 2007 at 1:33 PM

She plays D&D?

Ochlan on December 3, 2007 at 12:46 PM

Dungeons and Democrats. Her character (there ya go) is a lvl 20 Illusionist…she can make visions of healing salves appear before your eyes. Too bad they aren’t real, though.

James on December 3, 2007 at 2:03 PM

She carries the disadvantages of being in no position to question anyone’s character, and of being particularly off-putting when going on the attack. Bill Clinton could attack you with a wink and make you smile at the same time. Hillary Clinton possesses no such charm.

Agree completely and well said Bryan.

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ThackerAgency on December 3, 2007 at 3:29 PM

Bernie Taupin lyrics from an Elton John song come to mind…

I’m a b—-,
I’m a b—-
Oh, the b—- is back
Stone cold sober as a matter of fact
I can b—-,
I can b—-
‘Cause I’m better than you
It’s the way that I move
The things that I do

The sickest political spin of the year is the notion thrust upon the black community that America is just too racist to elect a candidate of color. It’s a false and wicked contention that plays on base fears… and it’s Clintonesque to the core.

T J Green on December 3, 2007 at 4:03 PM

Let the slings and arrows of politics begin. Hitlery’s opponent must remember she taught her husband everything he knows.

She even encourages his dalliances. This keeps him out of way until she needs him and when she needs his presence she knows where or who to call.

MSGTAS on December 4, 2007 at 8:24 AM

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