Will they go ahead and vote for Clinton, who is just about alone on the ballot?
Will they vote for a Rep like Rudy, who many of them would actually support for Pres?
Will the vote for Huck to mess up Republicans?

We do better against Hillary than against him.

Allahpundit on December 2, 2007 at 5:56 PM
Agreed.

amerpundit on December 2, 2007 at 5:58 PM

Absolutely correct.

That being said, a Hillary presidencey scares the pee pee outta me.

That being said, I need a cup cake.

- The Cat

P.S. The Gregorey had to knock it, there wasn’t ANY Plausible Deniability.

or

You can’t get paid off if you are already on their side

or

I still need a cupcake.

This is the big leagues baby and Huckabee is a little league player.

Pardon me for saying so, but that reads like wishful thinking. Iowa is the big leagues. Especially consider if he gets a bounce from Iowa going into NH and knocks McCain out. He is a factor.

Not only is he on the field in the bigs, he is the topic of conversation. He outperforms his peers in every debate and the media love him. I doubt he gets the nomination, but he is a force to be dealt with now.

terryannonline on December 2, 2007 at 9:15 PM

Heh.

I’ll leave you alone. Post a thread on your blog. I’d love to duke it out.

Allah, sometimes you are so pessimistic, it’s funny.

Huckabee might win Iowa, but that’s it.

This is the big leagues baby and Huckabee is a little league player.

A) Bill Clinton
B) David Gregory

It’s really close.

Remember when ex-presidents just faded away? I guess the Dems just don’t have that kind of class.

Entelechy on December 2, 2007 at 9:55 PM

Thanks, I’ll fix that on my blog:)

Theworldisnotenough on December 2, 2007 at 7:35 PM

What is your point with naming Hispanic congressmen?
It shouldn’t be a surprise that a heavily populated Hispanic area produces Hispanic politicians. So what, big deal.

I only used the term “entirely” because your previous post made it seem like everyone that’s not Hispanic will be left out of the political process, which I don’t agree with.

We are going off topic so we should continue this conversation on another related thread.

Just because certain areas have a majority of Hispanics that doesn’t automatically mean that other groups are entirely left out. I live in South Texas where the majority is Hispanic that doesn’t people who aren’t Hispanic have no say in the political process.

terryannonline on December 2, 2007 at 6:56 PM

South Texas huh?

Ruben Hinjosa

Silvestre Reyes

Charlie Gonzalez

Ciro Rodriguez

Henry Cuellar

I love the nuance. Not “entirely” left out. Just because Hispanics are a majority does not mean others have “no say” in the political process. You gotta love that, “no say”. As long as non-Hispanics have “some say”, are allowed in a meeting or two they are part of the process.

What do you think non-Hispanics thought of LA mayor Villaregosa’s plan to put WIC offices in the Mexican consulate? Do you think non-Hispanic interests were considered?

Terry Ann you, are, dreaming,(notice that this incident was in ‘97 and ten years later Hispanics in chicago are still at it, once the majority is gained all non-Hispanics are marginalized) the trend is very obvious and it will come to pass. Amnesty will only speed the process.

The threat is the media’s influence on the people. Plato said, “Those who tell the story rule society.” The liberal media sets the narrative and we either live by it or spend all our time pushing back against it

To a degree, but remember we have talk radio and blogs starting to work. Yes I constantly push back.

Staying on defense all the time means we cannot ever win.

I disagree a strong offense is the best defense.

People are deliberately voting in socialists/nanny staters because they honestly believe it’s the best thing to do.

I am convinced that the followers do not understrand they are voting socialist. They need to belong somwhere, so they find and follow a cool subculture and they speak and vote (and dress) as the subculture leaders tell them too.

Stopping any individual candidate is a weak, stopgap measure. I still vote, because I’m interested in slowing the process down, but I don’t kid myself that it changes much.

Agreed.

failure to correctly identify the problem means you’ll never solve it.

I agree, and anyone who studies the left in depth has learned, we are in a culture war freedom/socialism.

dm, the quotes worked backwards for some reason but I am not going to redo it now.

Our freedom is truly at stake.

I agree, but not by any individual candidate. The threat is the media’s influence on the people. Plato said, “Those who tell the story rule society.” The liberal media sets the narrative and we either live by it or spend all our time pushing back against it. Staying on defense all the time means we cannot ever win.

People are deliberately voting in socialists/nanny staters because they honestly believe it’s the best thing to do. Stopping any individual candidate is a weak, stopgap measure. I still vote, because I’m interested in slowing the process down, but I don’t kid myself that it changes much. You need a whole new paradigm, because failure to correctly identify the problem means you’ll never solve it.

Theworldisnotenough on December 2, 2007 at 6:45 PM

Just because certain areas have a majority of Hispanics that doesn’t automatically mean that other groups are entirely left out. I live in South Texas where the majority is Hispanic that doesn’t people who aren’t Hispanic have no say in the political process.

“I’m a better Christian than you because I’m willing to give your tax money to illegal aliens” card, that finished him as far as I’m concerned.
Laura on December 2, 2007 at 6:18 PM

I hear ya….
Huck needs to understand how important the RULE OF LAW is for Americans. I don’t think I can trust the guy.

Tell you what, my vote is for sale. Vow to end the internet ban on online poker and I will vote for you!
(and leave the good people of HotAir at peace)

What are you talking about?

terryannonline on December 2, 2007 at 6:15 PM

I’m talking about congressional districts in which Blacks have a majority because illegal alines cannot vote and their children are not old enough. Amnesty and a few more years and those districts will see Hispanic elected officials and Blacks will not be a part of that political process.

I’m talking about illegal aliens and their children easing into job sectors,illegals were used to break the mostly white and Black hotel workers union in the 80’s, now unions are outright recruiting illegal aliens and putting a premium on being bilingual and by default promoting Hispanics over non-bilingual Blacks.

The pattern already exists, an amnesty would only accelerate and exacerbate the trend.

The problem with identity politics is that all the identities need to get along.