Rice compares Palestianians to blacks in the Jim Crow south Update: Separate but equal in Annapolis

posted at 12:10 pm on November 30, 2007 by Bryan

Moral equivalency watch. Which side, Madame Secretary, gets to be the KKK in this analogy? Which side would find that a gross insult, and which side might not?

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice reportedly said in Annapolis this week that her childhood in the segregated South had helped her to understand the suffering on both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

“I know what its like to hear that you can’t use a certain road or pass through a checkpoint because you are a Palestinian. I know what it is like to feel discriminated against and powerless,” Rice told a closed meeting of Arab and Israeli representatives, according to the Dutch representative at the summit, Franz Timmermans.

“Like Israelis, I understand what it’s like to go to sleep not knowing if you will be hurt in an explosion, the feeling of terror walking around your own neighborhood, or walking to your house of prayer,” Timmermans quoted Rice as saying, the Washington Post reported.

Rice described her childhood in Birmingham, Alabama, during the era of segregation and the killing of four young girls in a bombing at a Baptist church in 1963. She reportedly said the bombing, which killed one of her classmates, helps her understand the fear of terrorism felt by Israelis.

Ugh. And to think I used to like her. I don’t mean to minimize the very real and awful suffering of Rice and other African-Americans during the terrible Jim Crow era, but there just isn’t any useful comparison between that experience and what the Palestinians do. They’re an armed faction, propped up by various bad actors outside the actual fight, that is run by two entities — Hamas and Fatah — that are both still dedicated to destroying Israel root and branch. Their spiritual founder, Yasser Arafat, more or less invented modern terrorism. He was feted at the UN and all over the world before and during his kleptocratic reign. Jim Crow was a blight and an injustice that deserved to be consigned to the dustbin of history. Hamas and Fatah are war criminal gangs dedicated to full-on genocide.

The danger of Rice’s remarks is that they can be seen to legitimize terrorism in the PA and even “direct action” by fringe forces here at home. Unwise, to say the least.

Update: Well, if Rice’s analogy holds, we know who the racists are in the current struggle.

This week the Bush Administration legitimized Arab anti-Semitism. In an effort to please the Saudis and their Arab brothers, the Bush administration agreed to physically separate the Jews from the Arabs at the Annapolis conference in a manner that aligns with the apartheid policies of the Arab world which prohibit Israelis from setting foot on Arab soil.

Evident everywhere, the discrimination against Israel received its starkest expression at the main assembly of the Annapolis conference on Tuesday. There, in accordance with Saudi demands, the Americans prohibited Israeli representatives from entering the hall through the same door as the Arabs.

At the meeting of foreign ministers on Wednesday, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni called her Arab counterparts to task for their discriminatory treatment. “Why doesn’t anyone want to shake my hand? Why doesn’t anyone want to be seen speaking to me?” she asked pointedly.

Shameful. We have gone from “you are with us or you are with the terrorists” to this.


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Condi Rice needs to just “shut up”.

I used to like her, too, until she started speaking in public and showed what a moron she is.

progressoverpeace on November 30, 2007 at 12:11 PM

She’s bought the Jimmy Carter line. I really think Bolton is right about her.

Spirit of 1776 on November 30, 2007 at 12:12 PM

No surprise as she thinks that Islam is a religion of peace.

MB4 on November 30, 2007 at 12:14 PM

Condoleezza Rice, the only enemy Israel has more dangerous that Iran…

doriangrey on November 30, 2007 at 12:15 PM

She’s not saying that the two are the same but simply that her experiences are helping her understand the Israeli/Palestinian situation. Why do y’all read into it so much that you think she’s making a direct comparison.

The Gunslinger on November 30, 2007 at 12:17 PM

The blacks in the south strapped bombs around themselves and blew themselves up? I must have been sleeping in history that day.

wytammic on November 30, 2007 at 12:20 PM

Stupid on Condi is like white on rice.

profitsbeard on November 30, 2007 at 12:20 PM

Condi, sit down, shut up, and let the non-suicide-bomber-empathists talk.

MadisonConservative on November 30, 2007 at 12:22 PM

The Gunslinger on November 30, 2007 at 12:17 PM

She’s saying that she empathizes with the Palestinians and understands their situation, which only proves that she doesn’t understand the situation over there, at all.

Who gave this lady a degree? What a total joke.

progressoverpeace on November 30, 2007 at 12:22 PM

Oh no she dih int … WTF happened to Condi???

She seemed awesome during the first term, but once she became SoS she suddenly (as implied above by Spirit of 1776) starts morphing into Jimmy Carter. And now it looks like said morphing is complete.

thirteen28 on November 30, 2007 at 12:24 PM

there just isn’t any useful comparison between that experience and what the Palestinians do. They’re an armed faction, propped up by various bad actors outside the actual fight, that is run by two entities — Hamas and Fatah — that are both still dedicated to destroying Israel root and branch.

Well said. Until the Palestinians stop bombing the Israelis, anything that Israel does is justified as protecting its citizens. MLK Jr. was about peaceful resistance. The southern blacks wanted to become a part of the community. The Palestinians want to destroy the Israeli community.

There is no comparison.

ThackerAgency on November 30, 2007 at 12:25 PM

wytammic on November 30, 2007 at 12:20 PM

Thats right, didn’t you know all the bombings in the south were false flag operations. Just trying to make the man look bad, and win some sympathy for the cause.

deadbackpacker on November 30, 2007 at 12:25 PM

I know what its like to hear that you can’t use a certain road or pass through a checkpoint because you are a Palestinian.

Not simply for being Palestinian, Condi, but because some Palestinians are terrorists, and because it is impossible to tell which are and which aren’t just by looking at them.

Bigfoot on November 30, 2007 at 12:25 PM

It’s time to admit that Condi Rice was made National Security Advisor and then Secretary of State for one reason: nepotism. She has no real qualifications other than she has been loyal to the Bush clan for two decades. John Bolton will say exactly what he believes regardless of the consequences. He is the real deal. Condi Rice is not. She is like the person everyone in a large company has experienced. The boss brings in a new person who has little or no background in the company’s business. But the new person is a friend or relative of the boss and all the employees now have to say how wonderful the new guy’s ideas are. Usually the ideas are just a rehash of what was done years ago. Or the ideas are just plain stupid. But nobody dares piss off the boss.
Any kid in high school could explain to Condi the difference between Selma, Alabama in 1965 and Hebron, 2007. There was no moral or practical or security reason for segregating Blacks from Whites in the deep South. In the west bank, there were no checkpoints and private roads until HAMAS and Islamic Jihad and Fatah and the Al Aqsa Brigade began their campaigns to murder as many civilians who were Jews as possible. The checkpoints have saved countless lives of Arabs and Israelis alike. Hundreds of would be suicide bombers have been caught at the checkpoints. Other potential murderers are deterred from their attempts by the checkpoints. And what Madame Rice forgets is that there are also Israeli Arabs as well as Israeli Jews whose lives were saved by the presence of checkpoints. I wrote about an Arab family in Haifa which was decimated by a suicide bomber in the family’s restaurant. This family (and I have met them in Israel) has little interest in Condi Rice’s nice little sermon about how Blacks in the South 40 years ago and today’s Palestinians are one and the same. This family lost their son to a suicide bomber. Please, Condi, don’t reach for these silly, middle school level analogies.
The whole episode just shows that nepotism is not a healthy thing whether it is Clintonian or Bush nepotism.

Larraby on November 30, 2007 at 12:26 PM

As an alumni of Stanford Univ, I would like to defend my fellow graduate. She is an extraordinary pianist, and….umm.. She can play the piano really good.
:)

mustang1 on November 30, 2007 at 12:26 PM

There’s something messed up in the water over at State.

bj1126 on November 30, 2007 at 12:26 PM

There’s something messed up in the water over at State.

bj1126 on November 30, 2007 at 12:26 PM

You know, I was thinking the exact same thing…Got to have the water checked.

doriangrey on November 30, 2007 at 12:28 PM

Lovely
She spent so much time studying the Russians she doesn’t know jack about the Middle East or the State Department and their liberal moral equivalence is finally taking over.

Defector01 on November 30, 2007 at 12:29 PM

That sounded like something Bill Clinton would say. Condi does need to shutup already with stuff like this. Though not technically a state, “Palestine” is a state sponsor of terrorism, period. This pseudo-peace process is a waste of time it’s delusional to think they are anywhere close to a resolution of this issue. I think the State Dept. has caused enough problems.

CP on November 30, 2007 at 12:29 PM

Too be fair, before 9/11 no one in the government of any western nation knew anything in the least about Islam.

What shows stupidity however is that today that number of ignorant government members in all western nations is pretty much the same.

How can we be so stupid? What is at work here?

BL@KBIRD on November 30, 2007 at 12:31 PM

I know what its like to hear that you can’t use a certain road or pass through a checkpoint because you are a Palestinian.

Not simply for being Palestinian, Condi, but because some Palestinians are terrorists, and because it is impossible to tell which are and which aren’t just by looking at them.

How about knowing what it’s like to have a security guard at every public place because someone wants to blow it the eff up simply because there’s Israelis inside?

I was in Tel Aviv recently for work and that was one of the biggest things that struck me – security at every enterance to every resteraunt, hotel, office building, etc.

Palestinians don’t want a two-state solution. If they did they would’ve ratified it at Oslo. They want nothing less than the irradication of Israel.

crazy_legs on November 30, 2007 at 12:32 PM

Defector01 on November 30, 2007 at 12:29 PM

That’s the really funny part, though. Condi doesn’t seem to know jack about Russia, either. The US policy towards Russia has been beyond silly. If anyone could actually tell me what that policy is …

progressoverpeace on November 30, 2007 at 12:36 PM

Wow, sorry can’t agree with you on this one Bryan…I totally get what she is saying and agree with Gunslinger…she is using past experiences to help her understand what is going on…step back a little…take a deep breath…your feelings about her personally are clouding your reason. Most comments are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Brian on November 30, 2007 at 12:37 PM

There’s something messed up in the water over at State.
bj1126 on November 30, 2007 at 12:26 PM

Maybe Joe McCarthy was right after all?

factoid on November 30, 2007 at 12:37 PM

Most comments are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Brian on November 30, 2007 at 12:37 PM

Annapolis is the mountain. Condi’s idiotic attempt at empathy is the molehill. But they both are Condi’s babies.

progressoverpeace on November 30, 2007 at 12:39 PM

It’s time to admit that Condi Rice was made National Security Advisor and then Secretary of State for one reason: nepotism. She has no real qualifications other than she has been loyal to the Bush clan for two decades.

Larraby on November 30, 2007 at 12:26 PM

Actually if you look at her background, she’s well qualified… she’s just horribly wrong. It’s a reflection of the State Department mentality that any and all conflicts anywhere can be solved if only we give them enough money and time to engage in bureaucratic negotiations.

Now the Bushies want a legacy as did Clinton late in his term and they’re willing ignore the reality that Fatah and Hamas are every bit the terrorist group as the one’s we’re fighting ourselves.

Hollowpoint on November 30, 2007 at 12:41 PM

The question….WTF happened to Condi?

The title SecState and the building in Foggy Bottom that is filled with Crimson Tide and Columbia grads. She got infected. There is no cure.

Limerick on November 30, 2007 at 12:47 PM

Won’t be long till we hear Apartheid from the Administration.

Kini on November 30, 2007 at 12:48 PM

I don’t remember Black Americans blowing themselves up and doing whatever they could to kill Whites. The dignity and spiritual presence of Black America is what won converts. Terrorism and racial hatred by Whites was spotlighted as being evil and that made the difference.

If Ms Rice is trying to equate a bunch of savages that raise their children to despise and murder while killing each other over power issues and supporting Islamic terror to the Civil Rights struggle of the ’60s, she was clearly out of town contrary to her personal account. She also has managed to tarnish what people achieved.

Hening on November 30, 2007 at 12:50 PM

Wow, sorry can’t agree with you on this one Bryan…I totally get what she is saying and agree with Gunslinger…she is using past experiences to help her understand what is going on…step back a little…take a deep breath…your feelings about her personally are clouding your reason. Most comments are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Brian on November 30, 2007 at 12:37 PM

Brian, sit down, shut up, and let the non-suicide-bomber-empathists talk.

MadisonConservative on November 30, 2007 at 12:52 PM

When the hell did Condi start listening to Jew-Hatin’ Jimmuh Carter?

Bad Candy on November 30, 2007 at 12:52 PM

Condoleezza Rice:
You have become just another nail in Israel’s coffin.

leanright on November 30, 2007 at 12:53 PM

Ugh! I used to think this was our next president! What happened to the “Velvet Hammer”?

Tony737 on November 30, 2007 at 12:58 PM

As an alumni of Stanford Univ, I would like to defend my fellow graduate. She is an extraordinary pianist, and….umm.. She can play the piano really good.
:)

mustang1 on November 30, 2007 at 12:26 PM

Rice is NOT a Stanford graduate. She was provost there, but never graduated from that school. Her degrees are from schools in Colorado (batchelor’s degree) and Notre Dame (master’s degree).

CyberCipher on November 30, 2007 at 1:09 PM

She’s not an idiot, but she sure is wrong here. Now, a better analogy might be that the Israeli’s are like the Jews pretty much throughout history. Of course, that’s not so much an analogy as a stone cold fact.

Defense Guy on November 30, 2007 at 1:09 PM

I can’t wait for the end of this administration. Rudy will never allow a Clueless Condi to make policy.

Hilts on November 30, 2007 at 1:15 PM

Like Israelis, I understand what it’s like to go to sleep not knowing if you will be hurt in an explosion, the feeling of terror walking around your own neighborhood, or walking to your house of prayer,” Timmermans quoted Rice as saying, the Washington Post reported.
Rice described her childhood in Birmingham, Alabama, during the era of segregation and the killing of four young girls in a bombing at a Baptist church in 1963. She reportedly said the bombing, which killed one of her classmates, helps her understand the fear of terrorism felt by Israelis.

The Race Card on November 30, 2007 at 1:26 PM

Looks to me like Rice is trying to glad hand both sides and using “bi-partisan” talking points to do so. My family came to this country as slaes and lived through Jim Crow, the Palestinains are buring Churches, Killing Christians and creatin gheir own misery.

Rice is too nice these people, and she’s falling for their propaganda. Maybe she missed all the racist cartoons that circulate in the P.A. about her.

Rob Taylor on November 30, 2007 at 1:27 PM

MadisonConsertive…nice! what you want to hear…make me? great reply, what are you 12? Put your thumb back in your mouth you baby.

Brian on November 30, 2007 at 1:31 PM

Rice has quite the nerve for saying that, considering she’s arming the daggum terrorists herself (see second photograph).

Regards,
Brian

Brian on November 30, 2007 at 1:32 PM

Do you remember when the blacks bombed all of those schools buses, remember how many strapped on bombs and walked into shopping malls. How about the time they dragged the body through the streets and tore it apart.
Yeah, those were the good ol’ Jim Crow days. Arafat and Martin Luther King, cut from the same cloth.

right2bright on November 30, 2007 at 1:33 PM

Bryan – You are so right!
Condi is breaking my heart. On the other hand, she has her orders to try to make some sort of decent effort to get both sides talking for cosmetic reasons, even if she has to strech credulity to do it.
While we are on the subject, why were Republicans candidiates asked about the Confederate flag. It was the Democrat Party that was the party of slavery and the Confederacy.

RobCon on November 30, 2007 at 1:35 PM

MadisonConsertive…nice! what you want to hear…make me? great reply, what are you 12? Put your thumb back in your mouth you baby.

Brian on November 30, 2007 at 1:31 PM

I’m responding to you the exact same way I would respond to her if I were talking with her and she made that same dhimmish point. If you’re really equating the plight of a bunch of people who strap bombs to themselves and blow up buses full of innocent people, fire rockets haphazardly at the homes of innocent people, and who kidnap and murder innocent people regularly, to the plight of a minority group who lived under poverty and threat of death, then you need to sit down, shut up, and let the people who don’t empathize with those who believe God wants you to murder the filthy Jews talk.

I don’t really care if you do it or not. You evidently are too obtuse to understand what you’re defending. All I can say is I’m sure Yassir would be proud of the both of you.

MadisonConservative on November 30, 2007 at 1:45 PM

According to Caroline Glick, the dirty kufar Jooooos weren’t actually even allowed to pass through the same doorways as the wonderful, moderate Arabs.
So-who was really humiliated?

WriterMom on November 30, 2007 at 1:48 PM

Brian

your feelings about her personally are clouding your reason

What is that supposed to mean? I gather you have had numerous conversations with Bryan about his “feelings” for Condi? You guys are really close?

WriterMom on November 30, 2007 at 1:50 PM

There’s something messed up in the water over at State.

bj1126 on November 30, 2007 at 12:26 PM

Yeah, I hear it’s very blue and tastes like koolaid.

Rick on November 30, 2007 at 1:56 PM

Actually, it’s more like the Jews were the blacks in the south during Jim Crow. Surrounded by hostile neighbors that didn’t want them. Attacked for no reason except for being who they were.

The Pali’s though are the Klan and the rest of the old guard redneck southerners who would lynch, bomb, and harrass the blacks. The blacks wanted to simply live in peace, raise their families, go to church, have their businesses,etc.

The Klan and others wanted no part of that so with the tacit approval of many local governments would do essentially whatever they wanted to.

Someone should sit her down and have a loooong talk with her about history.

Condi had it back-assward.

Grantman on November 30, 2007 at 1:57 PM

Not simply for being Palestinian, Condi, but because some Palestinians are terrorists, and because it is impossible to tell which are and which aren’t just by looking at them.

Bigfoot on November 30, 2007 at 12:25 PM

Not some Palestinians, 80% of the Palestinians fully support the violent intifada against Israel.

doriangrey on November 30, 2007 at 1:57 PM

The Race Card on November 30, 2007 at 1:26 PM

If so, then why is she so bound and determined to ensure that the Palestinians get money to continue bombing Israel? Why is she asking Israel to surrender to terrorists? why does she think that surrendering more Israeli land to terrorists will appease the terrorists?

Far to many questions that do not have reasonable answers.

doriangrey on November 30, 2007 at 2:01 PM

I swear I could feel her pain

entagor on November 30, 2007 at 2:15 PM

Ugh! I used to think this was our next president! What happened to the “Velvet Hammer”?

Tony737 on November 30, 2007 at 12:58 PM

It moved to Foggy Bottom.

Entelechy on November 30, 2007 at 2:19 PM

Years of exposure to Bush Derangement Syndrome in the media have finally gotten to her. Apparently in Washington you can only fight the fashion for so long before succumbing.

WasatchMan on November 30, 2007 at 2:39 PM

Since Condi Rice stated that the condition of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza reminds her so much of how she felt as an African-American in Birmingham, Alabama in the early 1960s, then I think it is fair to ask Condi Rice: Since you feel that the Palestinians of today are just like African-Americans in Alabama in 1963, do you also feel that Israelis are like the KKK and George Wallace of the 1960s? If you say the answer is no, then your whole analogy falls apart. If your answer is yes, that means that since you went to the State Department, you have become one of the pod people, whose minds are controlled by the Arabists at the State Department, those WASPS from old New England prep schools in their striped pants who looks down at the rest of us.

Larraby on November 30, 2007 at 2:54 PM

What a disappointment Condi is. She, like every other black person filters the world through their skin, not their brain. No matter what the subject they interject some black racial slant into it. The woman is so wrong in so many ways. Could she be in this job because of her race or gender? Perish the thought.

UnEasyRider on November 30, 2007 at 2:58 PM

Reality check: She’s from the State Department. Defense bombs. State reconciles. Saying that she identifies with living in fear — which both Israelis and Palestinians do — is not a horrible thing. She did not say, “This is like Jim Crow.” She merely said, privately, that should could identify with citizens under siege. She can’t pin blame, since then the Palestinians would walk out. So she’s doing her job based on her resources.

The separate-but-equal treatment is ironic, but, again, State makes nice. If this fails, she can turn around and say that she tried everything, even Arab-demanded petty-yet-offensive niceties, and still didn’t get anything out of it. It’s a lot better than demanding a false handshake from Arafat, which, although it says “We’re in charge,” doesn’t put anyone in the mood for making concessions (as we saw with Arafat’s post-handshake behavior).

calbear on November 30, 2007 at 3:04 PM

She, like every other black person filters the world through their skin, not their brain.

Is that your final answer?

calbear on November 30, 2007 at 3:04 PM

Actually, it’s more like the Jews were the blacks in the south during Jim Crow. Surrounded by hostile neighbors that didn’t want them. Attacked for no reason except for being who they were
Grantman on November 30, 2007 at 1:57 PM

Exactly! I was going to make the same comment, but you said it so well. Islam is perfecting the trick of taking the history of the Jewish people and applying it to Muslims. This began when Muhammed claimed that Arabs were descendants of Ishmael (not a historical fact) and that Ishmael was the son of promise, not Isaac and thus not the Jews. Many Christians and Jews will readily tell you that Muslims and Jews are cousins, but Muhammed was the first person to say that, and how much else of the Quran do we beleive?

Then they continue to peddle the insidious “Israelis are the new Nazis committing genocide against the Palestinians, who were the real victims of the Holocaust” story, all the while continuing their murderous rampage until the land of Israel-the freaking birthplace of Judaism-is made Jew-free. Not only is the world not telling them to shove this nonsense, they are writing books about it and teaching it on college campuses. It makes my head spin.

tikvah on November 30, 2007 at 3:09 PM

MadisonConsertive…look I totally get what your saying…again I don’t think she is saying that…I feel she is using past experiences and sees similarities and is using them to help understand what’s going on and hopefully move forward in this big giant mess that seems to go on and on. But I think it is a leap to think she thinks they are interchangeable. I respect your comments on this blog and enjoy reading them…just not a fan of shut up and sit down.

WriterMom…that’s none of your business…wink wink :-)

Brian on November 30, 2007 at 3:12 PM

Forgot to mention my other example: the Muslim Waqf complaining that the Jews are trying to destroy al aqsa by doing some harmless work near the Temple Mount, while the Waqf itself is literally bulldozing through remains of the 2nd Temple, trying to erase as much evidence that Jews might have a connection to the spot.

tikvah on November 30, 2007 at 3:14 PM

Not sure who the other “Brian” is…not my comment(right after my first post) above and not my blog on the link to the name.

Bryan…two of the same logon names? Didn’t know the system allowed that.

Brian on November 30, 2007 at 3:16 PM

UnEasyRider on November 30, 2007 at 2:58 PM

Geez. Take that somewhere else.

Bryan on November 30, 2007 at 3:22 PM

RE: the update…

That’s despicable.

CP on November 30, 2007 at 3:27 PM

“She, like every other black person filters the world through their skin, not their brain.”

I hope the irony of this particular sentence is not lost.

blackrepublican on November 30, 2007 at 3:35 PM

RE: the update…

Yikes…not good…don’t agree with that.

Ditto…CP

Brian on November 30, 2007 at 3:42 PM

Is she a convert and no one picked it up?

There were so many communists in the State Department and the Pentagon durring the 40′s and 50′s it was just plain nuts. And with all the Hezbos turning up in the FBI and CIA it makes me wonder. Seriously not so much that she really is one, but more like people working under her and advising her may just be.

- The Cat

P.S. Where is Joe McCarthy when you need him?

MirCat on November 30, 2007 at 3:47 PM

What a disappointment Condi is. She, like every other black person filters the world through their skin, not their brain. No matter what the subject they interject some black racial slant into it. The woman is so wrong in so many ways. Could she be in this job because of her race or gender? Perish the thought.

UnEasyRider on November 30, 2007 at 2:58 PM

Do you realize that you’re a racist?

***

If so, then why is she so bound and determined to ensure that the Palestinians get money to continue bombing Israel? Why is she asking Israel to surrender to terrorists? why does she think that surrendering more Israeli land to terrorists will appease the terrorists?

Far to many questions that do not have reasonable answers.

doriangrey on November 30, 2007 at 2:01 PM

I totally get why people are frustrated with her; she made a statement that seems to excuse the terrorism heaped upon Israel by the Palestinians.

Rather, I think Condi was being overly-diplomatic in the shadow of Bush’s mideast peace efforts. I think her analogy, despite being factually correct is inartful and seems insensitive. I certainly don’t think she meant it that way.

I also think that being Secretary of State during such a tumultuous administration would sully most, no matter their qualifications. John Bolton is the only Bush appointee to walk away with his sack intact. Everybody else has taken a beating.

Also, for all of you people trying to speak about the horrors of Jim Crow and correct Condi about it..stop. She lived it; my mother and Condi were childhood friends who both had friends who died in the 16th St Baptist Church bombing. I doubt any of us could fully comprehend the enormity and consistency of the terror endured by black Americans in the Jim Crow era South.

The Race Card on November 30, 2007 at 3:48 PM

“She, like every other black person filters the world through their skin, not their brain.”

I hope the irony of this particular sentence is not lost.

blackrepublican on November 30, 2007 at 3:35 PM

I, despite being white, think that I am far to offended by the statement to see any irony. Perhaps it is there, I just don’t see it. (BTW rather than irony, I would consider [filters the world through their skin, not their brain] it racists and just plain stupid.

doriangrey on November 30, 2007 at 3:48 PM

Also, for all of you people trying to speak about the horrors of Jim Crow and correct Condi about it..stop. She lived it; my mother and Condi were childhood friends who both had friends who died in the 16th St Baptist Church bombing. I doubt any of us could fully comprehend the enormity and consistency of the terror endured by black Americans in the Jim Crow era South.

The Race Card on November 30, 2007 at 3:48 PM

And I would be the first to admit exactly that. I have experienced first hand racism directed at me while living for many years in a predominantly black neighborhood, but know that my experiences don’t even come close to being black under Jim Crow laws.

One need only be the minority for a short while to understand just how wrong racism is.

doriangrey on November 30, 2007 at 3:54 PM

calbear on November 30, 2007 at 3:04 PM

She merely said, privately, that should could identify with citizens under siege. She can’t pin blame, since then the Palestinians would walk out. So she’s doing her job based on her resources.

The Palestinians are not citizens of anywhere. That’s the problem.

And just keeping people at a table is not her job, not State’s job, and not in the interest of the US. If the Palestinians are unable to hear the truth, then what are they doing there and what is the point of it all?

If this fails, she can turn around and say that she tried everything,

Please. The We have been trying everything for decades, and getting negative results. How many more times do we have to do the same dance until some people start to put 2 and 2 together.

Can you name me a single time that the Palestinians were given something – anything – and they behaved better afterwards? I can name a thousand instances of the opposite.

progressoverpeace on November 30, 2007 at 4:03 PM

There, in accordance with Saudi demands, the Americans prohibited Israeli representatives from entering the hall through the same door as the Arabs.

I cannot even express the words on how angry this makes me.

Honestly…I’m done sticking up for these assh*les.

The Ugly American on November 30, 2007 at 4:10 PM

I can’t wait for the end of this administration. Rudy will never allow a Clueless Condi to make policy.

Hilts on November 30, 2007 at 1:15 PM

No, Rudycapo would have a wiseguy like Kerik making policy.

MB4 on November 30, 2007 at 4:11 PM

On the news wire from one hour ago comes a report that three Palestinians attempting to pass through a checkpoint near Nablus were caught with bombs. Would Condi Rice say she “understands the pain” of these three Palestinians carrying bombs? Does Condi feel the “humiliation” that these three Palestinians must feel that they were stopped when they were merely trying to pass bombs through a checkpont? Will Condi offer them tea and biscuits while she tries to understand their motivations?

Larraby on November 30, 2007 at 4:33 PM

A few short years in the State Department, and Condi’s brain has ceased to function.

Jaibones on November 30, 2007 at 4:40 PM

If I were the Israelis I would tell the Bush Admin to go screw themselves…
Different doors???

Babs on November 30, 2007 at 4:52 PM

Babs on November 30, 2007 at 4:52 PM

The Israelis feel that way about Olmert – the dumbest Israeli leader, ever. … and the most shameless.

progressoverpeace on November 30, 2007 at 4:58 PM

B***h.

Aiding the enemy from someone who used to be trustworthy.

madmonkphotog on November 30, 2007 at 5:07 PM

There, in accordance with Saudi demands, the Americans prohibited Israeli representatives from entering the hall through the same door as the Arabs.

That is so wrong.

Melanie Philips had a great article yesterday:

One question, Mr President: what the hell has happened to you?

Grantman on November 30, 2007 at 5:33 PM

Oops. Link didn’t come out for the Melanie Philips article.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/print/melaniephillips/376791/mr-president-what-has-happened-to-you.thtml

Grantman on November 30, 2007 at 5:34 PM

A race is now an armed faction? I guess that’s how some people can justify even the deaths of innocent children.

Nonfactor on November 30, 2007 at 6:18 PM

I used to love Condi but she has jumped the shark

Resolute on November 30, 2007 at 6:31 PM

One question, Mr President: what the hell has happened to you?

Grantman on November 30, 2007 at 5:33 PM

I call that, suitable for framing : )

The Ugly American on November 30, 2007 at 7:00 PM

With friends like this who needs democrats.

JellyToast on November 30, 2007 at 7:30 PM

Condi has lost her freaking mind.

infidel4life on November 30, 2007 at 8:51 PM

Did the Israelis actually put up with this nonsence? Did they actually go into Alumni Hall through “different doors?”
Maybe they went in through the food service area?
I CAN’T BELIEVE that MY government would allow such a thing.
Oh, let’s see, 16 Arab nations against Israel and her weak cousin, the U.S.
This just makes me sick especially since this debacle was conducted at the U.S.; Naval Academy…
Luckily for us, no one blew anything up in Annapolis while the “conference” was going on.

Babs on November 30, 2007 at 8:52 PM

Why do black people hate Jews? I’ve never understood that.

SoulGlo on November 30, 2007 at 9:05 PM

Why do black people hate Jews? I’ve never understood that.

SoulGlo on November 30, 2007 at 9:05 PM

Read Manchild in the Promised Land to get a bit of their perspective. It’s a really good book and worth reading under any circumstances.

Moving right along, how the H*^# can we agree to allow the Arabs and Jews to be separated like that, at the Arab’s request? What does that say about the prospects for an agreement that is fair to Israel?

Buy Danish on December 1, 2007 at 9:58 AM