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	<title>Comments on: Frank Luntz: Fred won the debate</title>
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		<title>By: entagor</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/29/frank-luntz-fred-won-the-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-800257</link>
		<dc:creator>entagor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ll take you up on that bet. I can’t see Huck taking Michigan, Ohio, PA, or Oregon. RW Wacko on November 29, 2007 at 1:50 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Romney Sr was a very popular governor in Michigan. The older voters remember him well the younger ones not. Nostalgia for the good old days in Michigan makes the Romney name sound great

I don&#039;t see how Huck can get past his support of freebies for illegals in this state without switching parties

Of course this year may be different.. Everyone who can unload his house is considering moving. Who will be left by election time remains to be seen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’ll take you up on that bet. I can’t see Huck taking Michigan, Ohio, PA, or Oregon. RW Wacko on November 29, 2007 at 1:50 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Romney Sr was a very popular governor in Michigan. The older voters remember him well the younger ones not. Nostalgia for the good old days in Michigan makes the Romney name sound great</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how Huck can get past his support of freebies for illegals in this state without switching parties</p>
<p>Of course this year may be different.. Everyone who can unload his house is considering moving. Who will be left by election time remains to be seen</p>
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		<title>By: amend2</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/29/frank-luntz-fred-won-the-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-800139</link>
		<dc:creator>amend2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a mostly beat up thread but I&#039;m sure I heard Rudy say that not all of the Bible (the big black book) is not the inerrant Word of God.

hm.. over</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a mostly beat up thread but I&#8217;m sure I heard Rudy say that not all of the Bible (the big black book) is not the inerrant Word of God.</p>
<p>hm.. over</p>
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		<title>By: amend2</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/29/frank-luntz-fred-won-the-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-800126</link>
		<dc:creator>amend2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see you at the pole!  poll.. fred ftw</description>
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		<title>By: The Monster</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/29/frank-luntz-fred-won-the-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-800110</link>
		<dc:creator>The Monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It specifically said King James Bible on the spine.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I was starting to think I was the only one who noticed that.  He said &quot;and I mean &lt;em&gt;specifically this&lt;/em&gt; book that I am holding in my hands&quot; as he held up the spine.  That not only references Catholics and Mormons, but also anyone who uses the New International Version, etc.  It&#039;s a divide-and-conquer tactic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It specifically said King James Bible on the spine.</p></blockquote>
<p>I was starting to think I was the only one who noticed that.  He said &#8220;and I mean <em>specifically this</em> book that I am holding in my hands&#8221; as he held up the spine.  That not only references Catholics and Mormons, but also anyone who uses the New International Version, etc.  It&#8217;s a divide-and-conquer tactic.</p>
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		<title>By: Pilgrim</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/29/frank-luntz-fred-won-the-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-799621</link>
		<dc:creator>Pilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;    Fred/Duncan Hunter as good as it gets!

    Ex-tex on November 29, 2007 at 6:11 PM

Yep. Dream team.

IrishEyes on November 29, 2007 at 7:17 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As far as electability between the two of them, I&#039;d say there ya go.  I think I&#039;d rather see it the other way around tho.

!Fred, with his past questions on abortion, can&#039;t seem to get over it with all his pro-life rhetoric.  His explanation made sense to me but the fact that he can&#039;t manage a simple election campaign(compared to managing the Office of the President) just scares the hell out of me.

I&#039;m looking at Duncan Hunter right now for the primary but Chris M is dead on right:
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Sad that the primary is where you try to get what you want and the general is where you get what you can.

ChrisM on November 29, 2007 at 1:34 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>    Fred/Duncan Hunter as good as it gets!</p>
<p>    Ex-tex on November 29, 2007 at 6:11 PM</p>
<p>Yep. Dream team.</p>
<p>IrishEyes on November 29, 2007 at 7:17 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>As far as electability between the two of them, I&#8217;d say there ya go.  I think I&#8217;d rather see it the other way around tho.</p>
<p>!Fred, with his past questions on abortion, can&#8217;t seem to get over it with all his pro-life rhetoric.  His explanation made sense to me but the fact that he can&#8217;t manage a simple election campaign(compared to managing the Office of the President) just scares the hell out of me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking at Duncan Hunter right now for the primary but Chris M is dead on right:</p>
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Sad that the primary is where you try to get what you want and the general is where you get what you can.</p>
<p>ChrisM on November 29, 2007 at 1:34 PM</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Stop The ACLU &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CNN Debate Roundup</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/29/frank-luntz-fred-won-the-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-799561</link>
		<dc:creator>Stop The ACLU &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CNN Debate Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Still on Fred&#8230;Frank Luntz says he got the soundbyte of the night. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: IrishEyes</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/29/frank-luntz-fred-won-the-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-799531</link>
		<dc:creator>IrishEyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Fred/Duncan Hunter as good as it gets!

Ex-tex on November 29, 2007 at 6:11 PM

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yep. Dream team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Fred/Duncan Hunter as good as it gets!</p>
<p>Ex-tex on November 29, 2007 at 6:11 PM</p>
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<p>Yep. Dream team.</p>
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		<title>By: Ex-tex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ex-tex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred/Duncan Hunter as good as it gets!</description>
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		<title>By: SIJ6141</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/29/frank-luntz-fred-won-the-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-799330</link>
		<dc:creator>SIJ6141</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know what people see in Huckabee. He is the worst candidate as far as illegal immigration is concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know what people see in Huckabee. He is the worst candidate as far as illegal immigration is concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: unseen</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/29/frank-luntz-fred-won-the-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-799306</link>
		<dc:creator>unseen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred/huck for 2008.  great Ticket.</description>
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		<title>By: Sammy316</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/29/frank-luntz-fred-won-the-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-799245</link>
		<dc:creator>Sammy316</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really needed Fred! to deliver last night and he sure did on the borders and the GWOT. Its about time. I too went to fred08.com and made a second donation. I just hope he can ride this mojo.

I too heard Rush give Fred! his non-endorsement endorsement. That should give him a little more support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really needed Fred! to deliver last night and he sure did on the borders and the GWOT. Its about time. I too went to fred08.com and made a second donation. I just hope he can ride this mojo.</p>
<p>I too heard Rush give Fred! his non-endorsement endorsement. That should give him a little more support.</p>
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		<title>By: Hollowpoint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hollowpoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I see your point, but shouldn’t that have applied to Bush/Cheney? Well I guess I just reinforced your point - if Cheney was young, healthy, and electable, we wouldn’t be agonizing over HuckaMittIani.

peski on November 29, 2007 at 3:32 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And Bush doesn&#039;t exactly have a stellar record on appointing people based on strategy- remember that Cheney was tasked to find GW a running mate, and he suggested... himself.  It&#039;s worked out OK though, because watching Cheney drive the nutroots insane has been kinda fun.

That and I&#039;m not sure that anyone who served as GW&#039;s VP could win at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I see your point, but shouldn’t that have applied to Bush/Cheney? Well I guess I just reinforced your point &#8211; if Cheney was young, healthy, and electable, we wouldn’t be agonizing over HuckaMittIani.</p>
<p>peski on November 29, 2007 at 3:32 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>And Bush doesn&#8217;t exactly have a stellar record on appointing people based on strategy- remember that Cheney was tasked to find GW a running mate, and he suggested&#8230; himself.  It&#8217;s worked out OK though, because watching Cheney drive the nutroots insane has been kinda fun.</p>
<p>That and I&#8217;m not sure that anyone who served as GW&#8217;s VP could win at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: aero</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/29/frank-luntz-fred-won-the-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-799214</link>
		<dc:creator>aero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If Rush wanted to endorse a real conservative he’d go with Hunter, not Fraud!

BKennedy on November 29, 2007 at 2:17 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I like Hunter, and if I had to guess, I&#039;d say Rush probably does too. But it&#039;s far too late now for Hunter to come from so far behind, so he unfortunately has to be discounted. There&#039;s still an outside chance that Fred can surge and take the nomination after all. It doesn&#039;t seem likely with Huckabee sucking all the air out of the room, but you never know. But I do think that Fred is easily the most well-rounded and genuine conservative among the viable candidates. And therefore I hope we do see that surge happen for Fred in the 11th hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If Rush wanted to endorse a real conservative he’d go with Hunter, not Fraud!</p>
<p>BKennedy on November 29, 2007 at 2:17 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I like Hunter, and if I had to guess, I&#8217;d say Rush probably does too. But it&#8217;s far too late now for Hunter to come from so far behind, so he unfortunately has to be discounted. There&#8217;s still an outside chance that Fred can surge and take the nomination after all. It doesn&#8217;t seem likely with Huckabee sucking all the air out of the room, but you never know. But I do think that Fred is easily the most well-rounded and genuine conservative among the viable candidates. And therefore I hope we do see that surge happen for Fred in the 11th hour.</p>
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		<title>By: peski</title>
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		<dc:creator>peski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;2. It wouldn’t hurt from an election standpoint, but thinking ahead to 2016 McCain would be too old to be the nominee by then.

Hollowpoint on November 29, 2007 at 3:26 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I see your point, but shouldn&#039;t that have applied to Bush/Cheney?  Well I guess I just reinforced your point - if Cheney was young, healthy, and electable, we wouldn&#039;t be agonizing over HuckaMittIani.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>2. It wouldn’t hurt from an election standpoint, but thinking ahead to 2016 McCain would be too old to be the nominee by then.</p>
<p>Hollowpoint on November 29, 2007 at 3:26 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I see your point, but shouldn&#8217;t that have applied to Bush/Cheney?  Well I guess I just reinforced your point &#8211; if Cheney was young, healthy, and electable, we wouldn&#8217;t be agonizing over HuckaMittIani.</p>
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		<title>By: bucko36</title>
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		<dc:creator>bucko36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A President F. Thompson with a VP like D. Hunter would make me very happy American!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A President F. Thompson with a VP like D. Hunter would make me very happy American!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Hollowpoint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hollowpoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Now that I write that, what do you think of Fred/McCain? McCain as Veep is a lot more palatable than as POTUS, and he could actually bring some swing/mod votes. What to you political strategist types out there think of that?

peski on November 29, 2007 at 3:17 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

1.  I don&#039;t think McCain would accept it.  After losing last time around, he no doubt feels that he &lt;em&gt;deserves&lt;/em&gt; the nomination, and thus a VP slot would be beneath him.

2.  It wouldn&#039;t hurt from an election standpoint, but thinking ahead to 2016 McCain would be too old to be the nominee by then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now that I write that, what do you think of Fred/McCain? McCain as Veep is a lot more palatable than as POTUS, and he could actually bring some swing/mod votes. What to you political strategist types out there think of that?</p>
<p>peski on November 29, 2007 at 3:17 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>1.  I don&#8217;t think McCain would accept it.  After losing last time around, he no doubt feels that he <em>deserves</em> the nomination, and thus a VP slot would be beneath him.</p>
<p>2.  It wouldn&#8217;t hurt from an election standpoint, but thinking ahead to 2016 McCain would be too old to be the nominee by then.</p>
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		<title>By: LakeRuins</title>
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		<dc:creator>LakeRuins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Deeds not Words&quot; Using that simple axiom Fred comes out ahead. When reviewing all of the other anointed front runners when you look at their actions in office compared to what they are saying today it is obvious they will sell out to the highest bidder or poll taker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Deeds not Words&#8221; Using that simple axiom Fred comes out ahead. When reviewing all of the other anointed front runners when you look at their actions in office compared to what they are saying today it is obvious they will sell out to the highest bidder or poll taker.</p>
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		<title>By: JiangxiDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>JiangxiDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;He felt it important to repeatedly stress, slowly, that he meant the Bible for some reason. Never mind the fact he held it up for most of the video.

amerpundit on November 29, 2007 at 1:33 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Saw that too. It specifically said King James Bible on the spine. I&#039;m not Christian. Isn&#039;t that typically the version used by Protestants? I thought he was trying to force Rudy to say that his &quot;Catholic&quot; beliefs were a little different, and Romney to say that he too uses a different  bible. Or maybe it was to force Huckabee to say it&#039;s the literal word of God. I thought it was a multi-trick question intended to start a religious fight, but I could be way off base on this. In any case, none of the candidates saw it the way I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He felt it important to repeatedly stress, slowly, that he meant the Bible for some reason. Never mind the fact he held it up for most of the video.</p>
<p>amerpundit on November 29, 2007 at 1:33 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Saw that too. It specifically said King James Bible on the spine. I&#8217;m not Christian. Isn&#8217;t that typically the version used by Protestants? I thought he was trying to force Rudy to say that his &#8220;Catholic&#8221; beliefs were a little different, and Romney to say that he too uses a different  bible. Or maybe it was to force Huckabee to say it&#8217;s the literal word of God. I thought it was a multi-trick question intended to start a religious fight, but I could be way off base on this. In any case, none of the candidates saw it the way I did.</p>
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		<title>By: Janos Hunyadi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janos Hunyadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Another unknown Governor from the state of Arkansas, really? One that Dick Morris supports? Are you guys really comfortable with that?

Ann NY on November 29, 2007 at &lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, Ma&#039;am.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Another unknown Governor from the state of Arkansas, really? One that Dick Morris supports? Are you guys really comfortable with that?</p>
<p>Ann NY on November 29, 2007 at </p></blockquote>
<p>No, Ma&#8217;am&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: RW Wacko</title>
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		<dc:creator>RW Wacko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You must have not read the link about the “Black KKK” in the headlines above. Horizontal descrimination is far deeper than you seem to realize.

saiga on November 29, 2007 at 2:08 PM

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Forget when Jesse ran?  Only reason Obama is getting mediocre support from blacks so far is b/c they are flocking to Hillary as the first black presidents&#039; spouse.  Blacks love Hillary, with Obama standing next to her, the voting registration drives, church sermons, etc will ensure busing from the inner cities and rural areas that you cannot possible imagine on voting day.  50% of white women plus 95% of blacks plus even 10% of white men plus 70% of Hispanics = game over in the South.  Numbers would be MUCH worse up North of course (% wise).  Less blacks up there, too, obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You must have not read the link about the “Black KKK” in the headlines above. Horizontal descrimination is far deeper than you seem to realize.</p>
<p>saiga on November 29, 2007 at 2:08 PM</p>
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<p>Forget when Jesse ran?  Only reason Obama is getting mediocre support from blacks so far is b/c they are flocking to Hillary as the first black presidents&#8217; spouse.  Blacks love Hillary, with Obama standing next to her, the voting registration drives, church sermons, etc will ensure busing from the inner cities and rural areas that you cannot possible imagine on voting day.  50% of white women plus 95% of blacks plus even 10% of white men plus 70% of Hispanics = game over in the South.  Numbers would be MUCH worse up North of course (% wise).  Less blacks up there, too, obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: peski</title>
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		<dc:creator>peski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

    Anyone for a Fred/Huck ticket? How about Huck/Fred?

    Catseye on November 29, 2007 at 2:31 PM 

Huck sucks.

peski on November 29, 2007 at 3:10 PM
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Now Fred/Hunter, that I could do.  Even Fred/Mitt or Fred/Rudolpho or Fred/McCain.

Now that I write that, what do you think of &lt;strong&gt;Fred/McCain&lt;/strong&gt;?  McCain as Veep is a lot more palatable than as POTUS, and he could actually bring some swing/mod votes.  What to you political strategist types out there think of that?</description>
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<p>    Anyone for a Fred/Huck ticket? How about Huck/Fred?</p>
<p>    Catseye on November 29, 2007 at 2:31 PM </p>
<p>Huck sucks.</p>
<p>peski on November 29, 2007 at 3:10 PM
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<p>Now Fred/Hunter, that I could do.  Even Fred/Mitt or Fred/Rudolpho or Fred/McCain.</p>
<p>Now that I write that, what do you think of <strong>Fred/McCain</strong>?  McCain as Veep is a lot more palatable than as POTUS, and he could actually bring some swing/mod votes.  What to you political strategist types out there think of that?</p>
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		<title>By: Professor Blather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Blather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; If he was a Dem and not a social con, he’d be friggin’ unstoppable.

RW Wacko on November 29, 2007 at 1:50 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yup.



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I also think that if Huck ran, Hill would counter with Obama as VP out of neccessity to win some Souther states. In fact, no matter who the Republicans throw out there, if she swallows her pride and picks Obama as VP, she wins 2-3 Southern States due to the huge black turnout that would occur, and the game is OVER.


RW Wacko on November 29, 2007 at 1:50 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good point. 

I sometimes wonder if Obama is thinking the same exact thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> If he was a Dem and not a social con, he’d be friggin’ unstoppable.</p>
<p>RW Wacko on November 29, 2007 at 1:50 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Yup.</p>
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<p>I also think that if Huck ran, Hill would counter with Obama as VP out of neccessity to win some Souther states. In fact, no matter who the Republicans throw out there, if she swallows her pride and picks Obama as VP, she wins 2-3 Southern States due to the huge black turnout that would occur, and the game is OVER.</p>
<p>RW Wacko on November 29, 2007 at 1:50 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Good point. </p>
<p>I sometimes wonder if Obama is thinking the same exact thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Professor Blather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Blather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Famous last words:

&lt;blockquote&gt; I can’t see &lt;strike&gt;Carter&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;strike&gt;Clinton&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;strike&gt;Bush&lt;/strike&gt; Huck winning much outside of the South.

RW Wacko on November 29, 2007 at 1:50 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s not exactly coincidence that you have to go back to Reagan, and before him Nixon, to find a non-Southern president (skipping Gerry, of course). The claim &quot;he can&#039;t win outside the South&quot; wouldn&#039;t worry me a bit if I were a Huckite.

Especially against Democrats like Obama and Hillary.

On the other hand, the phrase &quot;she can&#039;t win the South&quot; ought to terrify Hillary fans. Just ask Presidents Kerry and Dukakis. You can win the presidency without New England or the west coast. Without the South, its impossible.

Find me if Huck actually (against all odds) wins the primaries and we&#039;ll discuss the terms of that wager. It should involve beer. Lots of beer. And Jessica Alba&#039;s phone number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Famous last words:</p>
<blockquote><p> I can’t see <strike>Carter</strike> <strike>Clinton</strike> <strike>Bush</strike> Huck winning much outside of the South.</p>
<p>RW Wacko on November 29, 2007 at 1:50 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s not exactly coincidence that you have to go back to Reagan, and before him Nixon, to find a non-Southern president (skipping Gerry, of course). The claim &#8220;he can&#8217;t win outside the South&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t worry me a bit if I were a Huckite.</p>
<p>Especially against Democrats like Obama and Hillary.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the phrase &#8220;she can&#8217;t win the South&#8221; ought to terrify Hillary fans. Just ask Presidents Kerry and Dukakis. You can win the presidency without New England or the west coast. Without the South, its impossible.</p>
<p>Find me if Huck actually (against all odds) wins the primaries and we&#8217;ll discuss the terms of that wager. It should involve beer. Lots of beer. And Jessica Alba&#8217;s phone number.</p>
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		<title>By: peski</title>
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		<dc:creator>peski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

Anyone for a Fred/Huck ticket? How about Huck/Fred?

Catseye on November 29, 2007 at 2:31 PM
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Huck sucks.</description>
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<p>Anyone for a Fred/Huck ticket? How about Huck/Fred?</p>
<p>Catseye on November 29, 2007 at 2:31 PM
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<p>Huck sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: TheSitRep</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheSitRep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Time and time again I look at the candidates and Fred Thompson is the only true conservative on that stage. 

I have totally made my mind up as of this debate. Fred Thompson has my vote and I’m sending him money tonight.

msipes on November 29, 2007 at 2:46 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

After reading your comment, I was moved to go to fred08.com and send him some money.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fred08.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.fred08.com/ThankYouDonate.aspx&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Time and time again I look at the candidates and Fred Thompson is the only true conservative on that stage. </p>
<p>I have totally made my mind up as of this debate. Fred Thompson has my vote and I’m sending him money tonight.</p>
<p>msipes on November 29, 2007 at 2:46 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>After reading your comment, I was moved to go to fred08.com and send him some money.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fred08.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.fred08.com/ThankYouDonate.aspx</a></p>
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