Maybe the media’s wet dream of a brokered convention will come true.

dedalus on November 28, 2007 at 11:40 AM

That has been my prediction for quite a while now. No one gets a victory on the first ballot, which will release the delegates. The top candidates will make some deals, and then on the second, maybe even the third ballot, the nominee will be selected. When he names his VP, we will find out what deal(s) were struck.

Countdown to the skewing of the story into the idea that evangelical Christians are at with war with one another this political season…..ten…..nine…..eight…….

Any function or just thought process?

Either way that’s an interesting position. I normally hear the viability one.

Esthier on November 28, 2007 at 5:17 PM

Any to speak of. Better to error on the side of caution.

“I think (even if a little), therefor I am (even if a little).”

Actually the viability one never has held much weight for me. Lots of people are not viable witout medical, even extreme, intervention.

Like Cheney or Snow or Edwards wife.

Lots of adults are not viable without medical intervention.

This guy has the personality of 3-day- old finger sandwiches.
MaiDee on November 28, 2007 at 6:09 PM

I respectfully disagree. His engaging personality is what lures them in.

Headline:

Christian leaders ask Muslims for forgiveness

Summary:

LONDON – In response to a letter from 138 Muslim scholars entitled ‘A Common Word Between Us and You’ which highlighted the existence of a common ground between Christianity and Islam, members of the worldwide Christian community wrote their own letter, acknowledging that in the past (e.g. in the Crusades) and in the present (e.g. in excesses of the ‘war on terror’) many Christians have been guilty of sinning against Muslims.

Pardon me while I regurgitate…

If he wants Rick Warren’s endorsement, then Huckabee has to answer for this too.

Right?

It is beyond me why anyone would want to give Huckabee power; The more I get to know about him, the less I can support him. Seems like for ANYONE of ANY political persuasion, for every one thing you like about him, there are three things that would make you run screaming into the arms of any of the other candidates.

But here’s the interesting part: a lot of you make interesting criticisms about Huckabee. Most of them fair criticisms.

But if he wins the primary, you’ll vote for him. Or you’ll stay home (don’t do it, please … but you might). Not one of you is going to vote for Hillary.

I don’t see him as being appreciably different from Hillary. Take a look at Hillary’s voting record before, say, a year ago, as well as her stated positions prior to that: Supported 3-strikes, increased police funding, NAFTA, voted to keep Cuba embargo, voted yes to criticize China’s human rights record, voted yes on the Patriot Act on its reauthorization.

Yeah, she’s Hillary, but he’s Huck, and I’m not a social conservative. He’s not a fiscal conservative, and neither is she. I don’t see her as being appreciably different from Bill, and the sky didn’t fall when he was in office. Hill vs Huck, I may sit it out. Depending on what I see, hell I could vote for her, esp if she is doing that hot aide of hers, Ms. Abedin, like people are speculating.

Brain function. If it is earlier or later, then I would decrease or increase the three months.

MB4 on November 28, 2007 at 3:34 PM

Any function or just thought process?

Either way that’s an interesting position. I normally hear the viability one.

He would be slaughtered in the general election.

MB4 on November 28, 2007 at 3:32 PM

Which, of course, was said effusively and repeatedly about Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush … and which is all too often still being said about Hillary Clinton.

We’ll see how sharp your crystal ball is if it gets that far.

For me personally, this comment from Slublog at Ace’s place is reason enough not to vote for him:

Huckabee has also proposed a nationwide ban on workplace smoking. His views on these issues show that when it comes down to it, Huckabee sees no problem using the power of the presidency or the amendment process of the Constitution to create laws that impose a particular viewpoint on the entire country. Federalism exists for a reason – and as much as we may not like a particular practice, I think abandoning federalism is more damaging.

Me no likee. I’m far too libertarian and far too fond of federalism to be pleased with that. Those opposing Huckabee could do worse than to use Slublog’s analysis.

Then again, like I said above – the very thing that pushes me away from Huckabee might make him more popular than the other candidates with those on the other side. There are a lot of folks – we call them Democrats – who might really dig Huckabee’s ideas as noted above. Would his theology negate that appeal? Maybe.

He’s so far doing a pretty brilliant job of playing both sides. But its a dangerous game. One misstep and he’s done.

A federal anti-smoking ban? (shudder) Sheesh.

Why three months? Viability outside the womb?

Esthier on November 28, 2007 at 2:27 PM

Brain function. If it is earlier or later, then I would decrease or increase the three months.

What I take from this thread: Huckabee might just be the next President.

He would be slaughtered in the general election.

Update: Falwell family endorses Huckabee

I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass.
- Barry Goldwater

All I know for sure about him is that he – or someone in his staff – is playing the public and the media almost perfectly. Sincere or not, it’s downright Rovian. (Anybody know what Karl’s been up to lately?)

A few days back some conservatives here were railing on about feeling excluded by Huckabee’s “Christian leader” message, and I pointed out the obvious: while that may be true, a lot of recently apathetic evangelicals are feeling awfully included now.

It’s brilliant primary politics. Whether you or I like it or not. I can’t even think of an unlikelier electoral surge in recent memory. With Fred! fading, Rudy under fire, McCain gone, Paul loony, and Mitt now competing for those evangelical votes – Huckabee just might pull it off.

Or it might be a flash in the pan. I’d bet on flash in the pan, myself. I think the nomination has been Rudy’s for the taking since 2001.

But here’s the interesting part: a lot of you make interesting criticisms about Huckabee. Most of them fair criticisms.

But if he wins the primary, you’ll vote for him. Or you’ll stay home (don’t do it, please … but you might). Not one of you is going to vote for Hillary.

But those very same things you don’t like about Huckabee – especially on issues of taxation and nanny-statism – may make him a better general election candidate. No John Edwards liberal is going to vote for Mitt Romney or Fred Thompson. If your criticisms are right – if he’s really no conservative – he could draw a few percentage points from the other side. Socially conservative but fiscally liberal democrats – and there are a lot of them – might like Huckabee.

Shorter version: after reading this thread, if I was advising Hillary Clinton – I’d tell her to be worried about Mike Huckabee.

Very worried.

According to the story posted at Hot Air, and linked earlier by Ace, Mike Huckabee is getting 48% of the evangelical vote in Iowa. As an evangelical, I find that somewhat disheartening, given Huckabee’s dismal record on fiscal issues. Now,……

No Republican will win either NY or CA. If you believe Rudy will, you are kidding yourself.

ThackerAgency on November 28, 2007 at 12:54 PM

I don’t believe Rudy can win New York, but I think he can force the Democrat to work in New York instead of accepting it as a gimme.

I am an atheist and I think that past about three months abortion is murder.

MB4 on November 28, 2007 at 12:42 PM

Why three months? Viability outside the womb?

Careful. Labels, tags, proportion.

Wouldn’t want to be like Kos or anything.

Slublog on November 28, 2007 at 12:39 PM

Sorry went to lunch but yeah that was kind of the point.

I’m beginning to think the “money-con” and libertarian crowd is scared of Huckabee because he actually cares about issues like helping the working poor get a leg up in this courty, or treating kids of illegals who themselves have committed no crime with a modicum of respect. I’m afraid some of anti-GOP accusations of the left are really coming to the forefront now in the attacks against Huckabee, and it ain’t pretty. But I’m confident he can weather the storm and grab a big win in Iowa.

Jared White on November 28, 2007 at 1:38 PM

If that isn’t a dead giveaway, I don’t know what is.

However, I still doubt Huck has the name recognition to win IA. Maybe that’s just the part of IA I’m in; everyone here seems to be into Romney, if they aren’t just ambivalent. I’m not going to get too worried yet.

But one good thing can come from this — the other candidates can go after him in the debate and make sure there is no real Huck surge.