I am under the impression that water-boarding is forbidden. I am willing to stand corrected, but I heard (from McCain himself maybe?) that it goes by various names and is outlawed b/c it is controlled death, ie controlled drowning in the forms where the water is actually forced into the lungs. I assume that is true, so technically doing that would be a violation.

Of course, the WH argument is that the code is to be interpreted by all the nations and we don’t interpret it that way – ie they say we follow the law…so maybe they don’t ever allow water into the lungs, in the 3-5x we used it, I don’t know. I do agree we shouldn’t go into details of our techniques, though.

salmonczar on November 28, 2007 at 10:01 PM

Read a synopsis of John Ogbu’s research.

UPDATE: Bill Bennet on CNN says that the gay General was on Hillary Clinton’s gay steering committee. Anderson Cooper admits he is an activist.
……

All I got to say about the gay question is something from past experience. Back in the 60’s we had a gay guy in our unit. That wasn’t a term we used then, but…. He didn’t flaunt it, everybody and I mean everybody knew it and we didn’t care. He pulled his weight, he stood his watches and we just didn’t give a $hit. Most times we were all too tired or too scared to think about it. It just didn’t matter.

Oldnuke on November 28, 2007 at 9:56 PM

And that is exactly how it should be.

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/

called a foul on the Hillary plant question. Anderson Cooper sounded shocked and appalled. Anderson Cooper has to assign someone to read The Corner.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Mjc0ZmFjMWViNmQzNDUzMmRmNDIyMzYyY2RhNGYyYTk=

Rudy did okay. The question about ‘always 9.11′ was good for him. Set himself up to expand to the Reagan years. Very bad answer on guns – he cleared up in the followup, but the initial answer was very poor. Great ad.

Mitt triangulated more than usual tonight, not impressed. Had the best single line though, with the ‘I was wrong’. Very good answer. Also had the worst line with ‘my son buys me expensive things’ but during a cutaway, so maybe won’t hurt. I would point out for all the don’t say China people in the crowd, he put China in his ad.

McCain hurts himself. Even when I agree with him and on the points where he is technically correct (Geneva, etc) it’s like he tries to piss people off (Pol Pot/Martinez?) ugh.

Fred, luke-warm. I don’t want to sound too critical of him, because having failed my expectations I might be harder then on others. But I think the days of him being a factor are numbered.

Hunter steady as ever. Tanc solid – better job then last time.

Paul – I thought that conspiracy question was going to kill him with some one – either the conspiracy fans or the mainstream, but he jumped out of that like Luke out of the carbon freezer. I was surprised and a little impressed with that. Also drew the distinction b/t non-intervention and isolationist. I hate it when he uses the word empire, though, as he did in the ad.

Winners (no part order): Huck, Rudy, Hunter, Paul
No change: Fred, Mitt, Tanc (though he might be the big winner in the grand scheme seeing they are pledging taking his positions on i.imm)
Losers: McCain

Bad Candy on November 28, 2007 at 10:38 PM

Thanks

Bennett just broke the news about the gay general. Ha Ha.

Buy Danish on November 28, 2007 at 10:32 PM

What?

asc85 on November 28, 2007 at 10:17 PM

I liked Mitt’s answer on the water boarding issue, but the gays in the military answer was weak.

I can’t remember a single thing Fred said.

CNN is so obviously biased, though. They would never ask the democrat candidates questions (good, tough ones!) like this!

SouthernGent on November 28, 2007 at 10:20 PM

That’s good for us though. Hopefully it’ll help us pick a better candidate.

Ron Paul sounds as though he’s millimeters from crying every time he opens his mouth. Call the Whaaambulance.

ColdBore76 on November 28, 2007 at 10:22 PM

HA! whaaambulance! Heh. Joe Dirt, right?