Weakened Chavez becoming more dangerous Updated, & bumped
posted at 9:11 pm on November 27, 2007 by Bryan
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Hugo Chavez is threatening domestic opponents with confiscation of their property if they continue to fight his effort to be voted into office for life.
The Venezuelan president, Hugo Chávez, today threatened to strip the country’s industrialists of their assets if they continued to oppose his indefinite presidency.
Chávez faces a vote at the weekend on his proposals to change 69 articles of the constitution, including scrapping the limit on the number of terms a president can serve.
Venezuela’s largest business chamber, Fedecámaras, to which thousands of large and small businesses belong, has called the planned reforms an “illegal act”, and called on voters to oppose their passage “by every possible legal means”.
Arrests and indefinite incarceration can’t be far behind. But the threat that Chavez poses isn’t limited to the area within Venezuela’s borders. He’s also a threat to his neighbors.
An IBD editorial sums up the growing danger that Hugo Chavez poses to Colombia. The backdrop is negotiations between Colombia and the FARC, which Chavez had been mediating until Colombian President Alberto Uribe learned that Chavez was working with the terrorists. Uribe fired Chavez.
In theory, a mediator should persuade two sides to each give up something to achieve a common end. The only one who gave up anything, however, was Uribe, who watched Chavez cavort with terrorists before TV cameras, giving them a legitimacy in Caracas they never had known.
Even worse, Chavez proved to be acting as an agent of the terrorists. Uribe’s sudden cutoff of the mediation effort at a hastily organized press conference last Wednesday suggested disturbing new information.
On Sunday, Chavez confirmed it: “I think Colombia deserves another president, it deserves a better president,” he said.
That followed a discussion in a U.S. prison between extradited FARC terrorist Ricardo Palmera, aka “Simon Trinidad,” and another mediator and Chavez ally appointed by Uribe, Senator Piedad Cordoba. They discussed “a transitional government” with the terrorist as a bargaining chip for the hostage swap.
On Monday, Chavez repeated what he had in mind to make sure Uribe understood. “Reconciliation is impossible,” he said. “We have to wait for a new government in Colombia we can talk with. I hope it arrives sooner rather than later.”
No wonder Uribe lashed out, saying Chavez was less interested in mediating than in overthrowing Colombia’s government. That may have sounded far-fetched, but it’s what the guerrillas have been fighting for since 1964, and Chavez’s admiration for them is no secret. Uribe, who has come down on the guerrillas harder than any other Colombian leader, is the president they want gone.
“You seek continental domination” Uribe said, and “a Marxist FARC government” to replace Colombia’s elected one. He also pointed out that it was prime time for Chavez to be trying this, with the Venezuelan’s public support at home flagging just one week before a constitutional referendum to grant him absolute power.
I’ve half expected Chavez to go expansionist on Colombia for a couple of years now. FARC makes for a natural Chavez ally. The Venezuelan polls show him losing support for being made dictator for life by vote. Colombia is a US ally, but not one that we’re likely to go all out for if Chavez attacks by proxy via the FARC and the paramilitary groups that he has been creating across Venezuela.
I guess what I’m getting at is, if you’re wondering where the next land war in South America is likely to be, keep an eye on the Venezuela-Colombia border.
Update: I’ve received an email from the author of the IBD report linked above. The author goes into quite a bit more detail about Chavez, Colombia and FARC, and I think it adds much to the discussion. The author directly addresses Blaise’s comments about Corodoba.
I just got back from Bogota and my editorial was informed by my experience there.
One, the ‘transitional government’ reference is real. The Colombia government hasn’t backed away from its charge that Cordoba talked of a transitional government with Simon Trinidad. Late last night it released in English its charge that that happened. That means they wanted that to get out – and they indexed it with Google, which is unusual. If you’d like to look, see here: http://web.presidencia.gov.co/sp/2007/noviembre/25/11252007.html.
As for Blaise’s claim that the US officials have backed Cordoba’s claim, I am not sure that’s correct. I’ve searched the US embassy Web site and the Colombian press sites and I don’t see any such reference.
But whether Cordoba has talked about a ‘transitional government’ which Blaise discounts, Chavez himself stated twice for emphasis that he wants another government running Colombia.
Meanwhile, while I don’t think it’s likely, it’s possible that Chavez could make menacing military border moves since the Cuban press reported that he called his men to their barracks. He’s also not a peaceable leader, he sent troops in to invade much weaker Guyana this month, google that, scary stuff. I think he’s more likely to meddle through cash to get the Colombian voters to give him what he wants. Whatever he does, it’s meddling and he’s capable of it. He’s meddled in every single election in Latin America since 2006. There’s no doubt in my mind that Chavez was threatening Uribe with regime change from his repeated statements about it, and Cordoba is his ally.
Why would Cordoba deny this, by the way? Because she’s facing treason charges on some other matter (I don’t think anything will come of it, someone not in the government brought a case before the Supreme Court over an unrelated matter and they are probing). But she has an incentive to protect herself from the ‘transition’ talk under such legal heat. This all just happened yesterday. She’s openly Chavista, she wears red a lot, she suddenly has a lot of money, and she’s somehow got a lot of FARC contacts.
I am not sure what Blaise meant by IBD publishing an error about Chavez and FARC, I wish I knew what he meant. For his information, FARC calls itself a ‘Bolivarian’ organization and it’s had Chavez’s picture festooning its web site in the past. A former FARC hostage who escaped last Dec 31, Fernando Araujo, who is now Colombia’s foreign minister, said that his FARC kidnappers used to dance with glee any time they heard Chavez speaking on the radio. There’s no doubt that Hugo and the FARC are like lips and teeth, the only thing separating them up till now has been an absence of contact, and the mediation opportunity from Uribe gave them both a golden opportunity to have that contact. There was something really dreadful about Chavez slavering to have a meeting with Manuel Marulanda, the aging FARC founder who’s been in the Colombian jungle for 43 years. Chavez would have treated him with the same drooling devotion as he does Castro because Marulanda is a ‘legend.’ Chavez has a great deal of admiration for FARC and the feeling is mutual. His talk of regime change reflected precisely the FARC’s final aim.
The author is checking on one other startling Chavez gambit in Colombia. I’ll update once more is learned about it. Here are a couple of reports on the Venezuela-Guyana conflict, the initial action itself and an update from today.
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LakeRuins on November 27, 2007 at 2:43 PM
Well when they go to war it will be bloody. And it will be the USA’s fault. Let’s just get that out of the way.
Agrippa2k on November 27, 2007 at 2:44 PM
Nor Sean Penn. Or Kevin Spacey.
MadisonConservative on November 27, 2007 at 2:44 PM
Cornered, wounded animals are the most dangerous.
gmoonster on November 27, 2007 at 2:44 PM
Nor could Cindy Sheehan or Sean Penn
Hening on November 27, 2007 at 2:45 PM
Thanks for the link, Bryan.
JammieWearingFool on November 27, 2007 at 2:46 PM
Maybe Sean Penn can be the war correspondent. He likes journalism. And Marxists.
Wineaholic on November 27, 2007 at 2:47 PM
What would the King of Spain say?
Shy Guy on November 27, 2007 at 2:48 PM
I’m bettin’ that Spicoli, Bat 21 and the sick-ass in Seven don’t have any property in Utopia.
OhEssYouCowboys on November 27, 2007 at 2:49 PM
Considering the quality of the training/advising Columbian forces have received from the US, I expect Hugo will regret escalating to a “hot” war if he does it.
TBinSTL on November 27, 2007 at 2:51 PM
Say, is that one of Hugo’s own AKs that supposed to be made in a Venezualan factory?
Frozen Tex on November 27, 2007 at 2:53 PM
I wonder if Chavez endorses Edwards mandatory health care?
Kini on November 27, 2007 at 2:53 PM
Yeah, from what I recall reading in SOF magazine, whenever the US trained gov’t forces meet rebels, the rebels get all FARCed up…
Frozen Tex on November 27, 2007 at 2:54 PM
Venezuela under the iron fisted rule of Hugo Chavez isn’t a situation that’s destined to end well.
Speakup on November 27, 2007 at 2:54 PM
Whether it is or isn’t, it has no magazine in it.
James on November 27, 2007 at 2:55 PM
Hopefully, the rest of his army’ll be that well equipped, too.
Frozen Tex on November 27, 2007 at 2:56 PM
If they could be reached for comment, you can bet your a– they’d be gushing over what Chavez was attempting to do for “the people of Venezuela” (himself).
Remember, they’re not called Useful Idiots for nothing.
Tom Blogical on November 27, 2007 at 2:57 PM
Please explain why it would be The United States’ fault for a war in Venezuela to be bloody.
MNDavenotPC on November 27, 2007 at 3:02 PM
Heh…I wrote about this danger in May of 2006.
flipflop on November 27, 2007 at 3:03 PM
“The backdrop is negotiations between Colombia and the FARC, which Chavez had been mediating until Colombian President Alberto Uribe learned that Chavez was working with the terrorists.”
Uribe, a man who is everything we wish Bush was, has known for along time Chavez supports the FARC. One of their leaders, Rodrigo Granda, was captured in Caracas a couple years ago coming out of a Chavez “Bolivarian Circles” meeting. The guerillas have also found to have been furnished with Venezuelan weapons. The FARC have long been allied with Castro, Chavez’ mentor, as well.
Anyway, the FARC have been almost decimated by the great Uribe’s own “surge” he initiated in 2002, so I wouldn’t look for any kind of proxy invasion. They don’t have the capacity to do much other than terrorize innocent Colombians. Chavez, however, will probably step up his support of the terrorists, reversing some of Uribe’s success. I also doubt Chavez would be stupid enough to launch any kind of conventional invasion. The Colombian military is tough, has been fighting the guerillas for 40 years, and outnumber the Venezuelan forces 3 to 1. The United States is also a staunch ally with a presence in Colombia and would no doubt throw whatever it took to ensure the Chavez era ended.
Golden Boy on November 27, 2007 at 3:05 PM
Just remember folks, Bush is the real fascist. /sarc
BKennedy on November 27, 2007 at 3:07 PM
Maybe Chavez got the idea to take over business listing to his comrade Hillary when she said she is going to take the oil company profits.
Wade on November 27, 2007 at 3:23 PM
¿Por qué usted justo no cierra su boca, Chavez?
SO far, over 2 million euroes worth of ringtones have been sold in the EU. No one respects that bloated idjit.
Mazztek on November 27, 2007 at 3:24 PM
Anyone know current U.S. policy on assassination? It is my understanding that assassination of foreign leaders is discouraged by Executive Order, but I don’t really understand what that means.
Jaibones on November 27, 2007 at 3:27 PM
I wonder if this idiot would like to retract anything or again clarify her statement that Bush is worse?
JammieWearingFool on November 27, 2007 at 3:35 PM
Jaibones on November 27, 2007 at 3:27 PM
The USA is prohibited from using assassination as a tool by Executive Order. That does not mean that our military cannot target the leadership of a country with whom we are at war; it means we cannot send in covert assassins as part of regime change.
Executive Orders have the same effect on the Executive Branch as does federal statutes. But unlike items in the US Code, EO’s can be repealed by the stroke of the President’s pen, or bypassed as an exemption by a specific finding of the President.
One can always hope….
georgej on November 27, 2007 at 3:37 PM
JammieWearingFool on November 27, 2007 at 3:35 PM asked: “I wonder if this idiot would like to retract anything or again clarify her statement that Bush is worse?”
She answered: “I am saying our president is just as much a tyrant as Chavez could hope to be.”
In other words, it is going to take a lot more from Chavez to get the moonbat piece of sh*t to admit the truth. More than likely, she’ll still be fantasizing doing a private pole dance for Hugo no matter what he does to his people.
When people like her continue to stubbornly hold on to their delusions in the face of reality, we say they suffer from paranoia. Frankly, like many moonbats, she needs to ask her doctor if thorazine or electroshock therapy is right for her.
georgej on November 27, 2007 at 3:45 PM
What’s today’s over/under on when the actual political violence erupts in Venezuela?
thirteen28 on November 27, 2007 at 3:56 PM
The rural natives in that part of the world suffer from low intellectual faculties. The more urban types are quite a bit farther along, but still a few clicks off level.
In spite of it, this joker will burn out before too long. He is such a hambone.
saiga on November 27, 2007 at 4:15 PM
That dink needs to be enlightened by having his third eye opened up.
mojo on November 27, 2007 at 4:22 PM
What is that troublesome troll up to now?
AlexB on November 27, 2007 at 4:23 PM
Hmmmm
Hitler(I’m a dinner jacket) Il Duce(Chavez)
Have we learned nothing when 2 little dictators get together and contrive to stay in office for life and ruin America.
xler8bmw on November 27, 2007 at 4:25 PM
Yes it’s true. We always always ignore the fights we’d have every right to dominate and end in a week with the citizens actually throwing flowers at Dick Cheny’s feet.
Griz on November 27, 2007 at 4:45 PM
Thanks for the item regarding the Colombia/Venezuela dispute. I live here in Bogota, so try to imagine the bemusement of the people here.
There are a couple of inaccuracies in the IBD Editorial that should be corrected.
First, there is no allegation (at least here) that Chavez was actually working with the FARC. That doesn’t mean that people haven’t suspected it for a long time; it is thought that he harbours them, Granda was in Caracas when he was captured, and Uribe is reported to have shown Chavez photos on FARC encampments inside Venezuela. But that is not something at the centre of the present dispute, though it may have motivated Pres. Uribe’s strong words (it was horrible to see Chavez gallivanting around with a FARC leader). The issue is that Chavez divulged private discussions between himself and Pres. Uribe that took place in Santiago (overshadowed by the Spanish King’s comments to Chavez). They had kind of gotten over that, though; last Monday Uribe gave Chavez until the end of December to get results. While in Santiago, however, Chavez had asked permission to speak directly with the Colombian Military High Command; Uribe said no.
The next (last week) Wednesday Gen. Montoya picked up the phone to answer a call from Sen. Piedad Cordoba (the other interlocutor) and there was Chavez on the other end. Obviously he reported it to Uribe…and then it all hit the fan.
The first reaction from Chavez was quite calm…but since then he has just gone off the deep end. Pres. Uribe, in his speech Sunday commented that that Colombia needed an interlocutor with the terrorists, but not someone who was helping them. But, in reality, this was more polemics (perhaps unfortunate polemics), because the real issue was the call to Gen. Montoya.
The other inaccuracy is the suggestion that Sen. Cordoba discussed a “transitional government” with “Simon Trinidad”, Uribe seems to have spoken too quickly in making this accusation. Sen. Cordoba indicates she didn’t discuss this, and a US State Department official who was present during the meeting supports her version.
I think that Pres. Uribe was completely right to end Chavez’ involvement, but it wouild have been better had he been more restrained in his comments. Chavez looks like a complete idiot at this moment. There is a simple question to ask: Why does Chavez have his nose so out of joint? He has no interest, does he, in what is essentially a matter internal to Colombia, right? I think that Uribe should have restricted his comments to the phone call and the above question. Chavez’ tantrum would have then made him look like a fool here, in Venezuela, in France and around the world.
Of course, Chavez DOES have an interest in Colombia. You are right, Bryan, to “half expect” Chavez to go expansionist here. There has been a problem in the border area with “Chavista” involvement in local elections and a diplomat was expelled earlier this year.
That is about all Chavez can do, however. Uribe’s popularity is up to 80% (given that 50% of the country is poor, it shows his popularity is widespread) and people do not like Chavez. They can’t do anything miliarily because, to echo TBinSTL above, the Colombia military is in a different category than Venezuela’s. They have a lot of conscripts, but they also have a lot of regular, professional soldiers who are well trained and, sadly, highly experienced.
In the end, this all has a lot to do with Chavez trying to demogogue; he wants to stir up nationalist feeling in Venezuela so that he will be seen as the country’s saviour and thus he will win Sunday’s referendum vote (which he is currently losing). This tactic may well backfire for two reasons: first, Colombians and Venezuelans like each other…to an outsider such as myself it is difficult to distinguish between them (they’re all great). Secondly, Uribe’s popularity is not restricted to Colombia. He is well liked in the region, including in Venezuela.
It will be interesting to see if this is all forgotten once the Referendum is over.
Sorry for having gone on at length, but I wanted to put in my two pesos worth.
Blaise on November 27, 2007 at 4:56 PM
Don’t apologize for the comment’s length. That’s good and useful on-the-ground reporting you’re giving us. Thank you.
Bryan on November 27, 2007 at 5:12 PM
No prob.One thing about Colombia…no “slow news days”.
Blaise on November 27, 2007 at 6:07 PM
Hi Blaise,
Perhaps there wasn’t a smoking gun, but that doesn’t mean Uribe didn’t rightly suspect Chavez’ support for the guerillas based on the accumulated evidence and the shared ideology. The negotiations were a farce from the get-go, anyway. Uribe had to play along for political reasons, but does anyone think he would unleash 500 FARC terrorists to resume murdering the Colombian people?
Also, maybe Uribe was wrong about Cordoba’s discussion, but she is and always has been a tool of the FARC, as Uribe has pointed out. I’m sure you saw the photos of her smiling with the savages, receiving flowers from them and wearing their same beret in solidarity. She’s also a much beloved figure on the international Left scene, by the way. Check out the roster from this forum she attended, for example. It’s an all-star lineup up of communists, Islamofascists, and various other loathesome enemies of civilization.
Golden Boy on November 27, 2007 at 6:09 PM
Hi Golden Boy:
Of course the entire process was a farce from the get-go. Apart from whether Uribe would have allowed hundreds of legally imprisoned FARCs out of jail (he might have…he allowed 144 FARC out last summer…145 if you count Granda, and about 20,000 paramilitaries will get off virually scot-free under the Law of Peace and Justice)is the fact that the FARC would NEVER have let their hostages go. Good grief…after almost 4 months, they couldn’t even get a picture from them to show that any of the prisoners were even alive.
That is the cruelty of the process because it carried with it an element of the families being led-on. In reality, this is why I think Uribe allowed the process to begin…it would have allowed him to say, after it had failed, that even Chavez couldn’t do anything. This would have got Sarkozy off his back, he hoped.
As for Cordoba, I tend to cut her a bit of slack, even though, as you say, her connections with the FARC are suspicious. First, she is a member of the Liberal Party, not the Polo…so she identifies with one of the traditional parties.
More importantly, she is a person of great personal courage. Historically,in Colombia, to hold views such as hers has carried some risk. You may know that she was kidnapped a number of years ago by the paramilitaries…by Carlos Castaño in fact. She stood up to him…defying him to kill her (which would have been nothing for him). Ultimately she was let go. So, though I disagree with her, and distrust her even, I do respect her.
As for the “smoking gun”, as I said, I read that Uribe gave Chavez photos of FARC encampments inside Venezuela. You can draw a lot of conclusions from that.
Blaise on November 27, 2007 at 6:34 PM
Blaise,
I really appreciate you taking the time to make good comments.
Another very interesting, well-thought post by Bryan Preston. I was hoping he would write a good article on Chavez. Lately, I have been reading up on Hugo Chavez, studying the situation in Venezuela with concern.
I wonder IF, and when, Hugo Chavez would ever encourage the development of a negative South American trend of Hezbollah bases
in Venezuela?
Maybe farfetched?
But Hugo Chavez does hate Bush and the Capitalist West that much.
ColtsFan on November 27, 2007 at 7:13 PM
I wonder IF, and when, Hugo Chavez would ever encourage the development of a negative South American trend of Hezbollah bases
in Venezuela.
ColtsFan on November 27, 2007 at 7:14 PM
MNDavenotPC:
Agrippa2k is merely (an facetiously, I presume) applying the Noam Chomsky doctrine dictating that anything wrong in the world today is such as the direct result of U.S. foreign policy.
On another note: thanks for this post, Bryan. And I thank Blaise, as well, for the additional information. I haven’t been here in a while and it’s nice to see something internationally important rather than atheist/believer and Thompson/Giuliani flamewar bait.
Perpetual Student on November 27, 2007 at 7:54 PM
I’d bet it’s not too far off…civil war in Venezuela in 4…3…2…1.
The other question is once civil war does break out in Venezuela, how long before the left-tards like Penn, Glover, et al start blaming Boooosh for fomenting it so Darth-Cheney/Halliburton can get Venezuela’s oil…answer, they’ve probably already started printing protest signs!
Liberty or Death on November 27, 2007 at 8:46 PM
I am having a premonition that he is going to meet with a
Ceauşescu / Musilini / Hitlerish end.
Or am I just hoping?
TheSitRep on November 27, 2007 at 9:22 PM
Penn, Glover, et al are ENVIOUS of chavez tactics, and never forget it, folks.
What a wonderful way for noble, historic Spain to get in the news again. What a marvelous insight into the way a population, as a field of wheat, can be observed to inexorably lean in the direction the breeze is blowing.
Blow back, Colombia. Blow back.
First thought that entered my mind.
RushBaby on November 27, 2007 at 10:02 PM
Well, at least we know one thing – if a Dem gets elected president, he or she will attempt to sit across the table from Hugo (”Juice”) and try to understand him.
All kidding aside (sort of), I don’t see this ending peacefully. Chavez is too out of control and determined.
Rick on November 27, 2007 at 11:16 PM
i think they are hiding in the closet with tom cruise and cindy sheehan
Mojack420 on November 28, 2007 at 12:52 AM
So Chavez is facing an election this week end? Kool.
Of course, if Chavez wins the election it will be bad for Venzuela, and South America.
On the other hand, if Chavez loses the election it will be bad for Venzuela, and South America. (Do I need to expand that conclusion?)
rockhauler on November 28, 2007 at 1:08 AM
Don’t give up hope.
Entelechy on November 28, 2007 at 1:10 AM
Hugo Chavez has himself confused with Caesar Chavez or Caesar himself.
Is it coincidental, megalomania affects political figures more than others? Or is it a qualifier for political office?
Supporters of such delusional types should be required to relinquish their citizenship and deported to their idols country and see how long they survive while they sucked dry.
MSGTAS on November 28, 2007 at 8:56 AM
Chavez is out of control and needs to be stopped. His meddling is growing. There’s suspicion he was behind the attacks on the oil facility in Mexico back in the summer, now Guyana. I think he’s been angling for war with Colombia for some time. Why do you think he’s been buying up all those Kalishnakovs and planes, etc. It’s not gonna be pretty. The FARC are outright terrorists and so is he. The US needs to get a gameplan for Latin America already. We’ve ignored it for too long.
CP on November 28, 2007 at 10:39 AM
Back at work, checking Hotair as I do every day, and I found the above update.
To IBD: about the Cordoba “transitional governemt” comment, it was in yesterday’s El Tiempo. I read it in the hard copy (not the net) on about page 3. If El Tiempo got that wrong, fair enough, but you probably know that they tend to be pretty careful about stuff like that. I think I still have my copy at home…if you think you need it, let me know if you can’t get your hands on a copy and I will see what I can do.
The point regarding an inaccuracy regarding FARC and Chavez was the comment in the IBD editorial that “Chavez proved to be acting as an agent of the terrorists”. Whether or not that is, in the big picture, true, it wasn’t the issue that caused the breakdown last Wednesday.
That had its specific origin in the call from Chavez to Gen. Montoya in complete disregard of Uribe’s instructions. Punto. It was ” la gota que reboso la copa” (the drop that overflowed the cup).
If you read El Tiempo today, for example, you will see that the government says Chavez held out that Uribe was willing to meet with the FARC leadership, which is denied. But nothing is said anywhere that he was actually acting in concert with the FARC…for obvious reasons. Obviously, there are suspicions (hence the photos given to Chavez) but there is not, and cannot be, any accusation of this at the moment.
There is no disagreement between myself and the IBD writer about the nature of Chavez. I had not heard about the Guyana situation but, as I mentioned, he has tried to interfere in local elections in Colombia. There is no question that the FARC regards Chavez as a sort of hero (though in some ways he is their useful idiot). The potential meeting between Chavez and Marulanda made everyone sick…moreso because Chavez was pushing to have it in Colombia.
So, the point is this. Chavez is a disaster…for Venezuela, for Colombia, for the world. But I believe that it is extremely important that we see the facts exactly as they are…they’re bad enough. So it was for the sake of clarity that I posted my note.
Blaise on November 28, 2007 at 10:54 AM
Thanks, georgej. Hard to imagine that changing. Better declare war on Venezuela. Heh.
Jaibones on November 28, 2007 at 11:45 AM
Looks like Hugo Chavez is spending a lot of arms lately.
Negotiations between Venezuela and Russia on the purchase of five to ten Russian submarines are winding down. The final decision may be made when Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez visits Russia on June 29. Chavez will visit Russia just before Russian President Vladimir Putin visits the United States. The submarine deal will likely become another irritant in U.S.-Russian relations.
Venezuela is spending big money on modernizing its armed forces. According to the Venezuelan Defense Ministry, the country spend $4.3 billion on arms purchases in 2005-2006. Of that sum, $3.4 billion went to Russia. Germany, France and Italy jointly and Russia competed in a tender to provide Venezuela with submarines. It will have the largest submarine fleet in South America, along with Peru, which has six submarines, Brazil, which has five, and Chile, which has four.
Venezuela makes no secret of the fact that it is preparing for military conflict with the United States.
There are now reports that say that Venezuela’s spending on arms have shifted from $1 billion to around $3 billion. That is a lot for a country the size of Venezuela with no obvious regional enemies or a war to fight.
There have been a series of reports from a number of sources that Venezuela has finalized a deal with Russian arms manufacturers. Those reports have now shifted the total from $1 billion to around $3 billion, and expand its focus beyond SU-30MK2 (Mnogofunktzionniy Komercheskiy 2-seat) long-range multi-role fighters and various Russian helicopters to include other equipment as well. The final deal is reportedly still being negotiated.
ColtsFan on November 28, 2007 at 11:46 AM
Again, I apologize to my Christian brother Pat Robertson for making “prophetic” comments that I saw as too harsh.
apostle53 on November 28, 2007 at 1:32 PM
Sure, why not cuddle up to the socialist coke barons?
The oil’s gonna run out someday.
TallDave on November 28, 2007 at 1:51 PM
Thank you , I suspected as much myself. Too many Saul Alisky and Noam Chomsky disciples are around to count!!!!
MNDavenotPC on November 28, 2007 at 3:59 PM
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