TPM: Mitt told a second audience he probably wouldn’t have Muslims in his cabinet
posted at 8:05 pm on November 27, 2007 by Allahpundit
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They have two named witnesses claiming the question was put to him at a private luncheon in Vegas in August. I’m sure that it was, for reasons I’ll explain in a moment. But first, which question, precisely, was put to him? Was it, “Will you have Muslims in your cabinet?” Or was it, “Do you think you need a Muslim in your cabinet to effectively fight the war on terror?” Mitt said this afternoon that Mansour Ijaz asked him the second question, not the first. TPM’s two witnesses paraphrase the question thusly:
“His question was something to the effect of, ‘Considering the problems that we have with the Jihadist movement and the problems we have with the Middle East, would you consider having a Muslim as an adviser that can guide you as to what kind of decisions to make with regards to the Middle East?’”
He said, ‘Probably not.’”
And:
“My question was, ‘Look, with the amount of Muslims that don’t trust the United States, would you consider it prudent to put a Muslim in your cabinet?’ He said, ‘Most likely not.’
Both of those formulations are equivalent to the second question — whether we need Muslims in the cabinet to have a more effective foreign policy — not whether they should be summarily disqualified from cabinet positions. TPM claims, though, that Mitt followed up with something suggesting the latter view:
[Irma] Aguirre added that what Romney said next surprised her. “He said something to the effect of, ‘They’re radicals. There’s no talking to them. There’s no negotiating with them.’ I can’t remember the exact words he used, but that was the explanation. We left thinking, ‘Wow, what a racist comment. He automatically assumed that all Muslims are radical.’”
The other witness, George Harris, corroborated it:
[H]e went on to say what Irma said he said. I was more angry than she was. I said, ‘I’m not gonna support this guy.’ If he’s gonna be President of the United States, don’t you think you need to be a little more open minded?”
I said that I believe he was asked the question they claim they asked him. Why? Because it was mentioned two months ago in the September issue of George Harris’s magazine, Liberty Watch. The incident is recounted here by editor Mike Zigler — except, curiously, the incendiary quote about Muslims being intractable “radicals” isn’t mentioned. Zigler isn’t favorably disposed towards Romney, either, so he has no obvious reason to omit it: He knocks neoconservatism and laments the fact that Republicans aren’t more solicitous of Muslims like … Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, per his aborted attempt to propagandize at Ground Zero. Zigler doesn’t say if he was at the luncheon with Aguirre and Harris but he clearly knows the details of the exchange with Mitt. In which case, why not include the money quote about “radicals”? It would have been an exclamation point on his thesis. It’s also worth noting that the question asked of Mitt as framed by Zigler — “If you are elected President, will you include any Muslim members in your cabinet?” — is considerably simpler than Aguirre’s and Harris’s versions of it, although I’m not sure which way that cuts. Maybe it suggests that Zigler wasn’t there and doesn’t have firsthand knowledge of everything Mitt said. But even if he wasn’t, wouldn’t Harris have told him what Mitt said about Muslims supposedly being “radicals”? That’s a considerably more interesting detail than him saying he probably wouldn’t appoint one to help fight the war on terror. Seems like an odd tidbit to skip.
Finally, what exactly is Mitt’s motive supposed to be here in the left’s imagining? Presumably it’s that he’s trying to appeal to the conservative base by slipping on a “No Muslims Allowed” sandwich board and demagoging religious minorities to oblivion. But if so, why is he insisting that he didn’t say these things and that he’ll make cabinet appointments based on merit? Huckabee is making a strong play in Iowa for social cons, the same voters whom the left believes would be most susceptible to a little Muslim-baiting. Here’s Romney’s big demagogic opportunity — yet he’s spinning it the other way. It doesn’t square.
Update: If the answer to the last paragraph is that he’s confining these sentiments to small private events lest the press get wind of them — which kills the Mitt-as-demagogue meme, but so be it — then it’s an extraordinary lapse for the otherwise famously disciplined Romney machine. A politician with a prejudice has two options: either keep it to himself or, more cynically, go public with it and use it to wring votes from like-minded people. The dumbest course, especially in the post-”Macaca” YouTube age, is to cop to it but only in private.
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You were clear, AP. There’s just a lot of knee-jerk defensiveness of Mitt around here. The assumption is that he’s being attacked, even when he’s not. I guess that’s the case to one degree or another with all the candidates’ ardent supporters, but it seems more so with Mitt.
aero on November 28, 2007 at 11:15 AM
Esthier, I think we’re talking about two entirely different things here. You seem to be talking about having the courage of one’s convictions and faith in the face of tyranny and oppression – even to the point of dying for one’s beliefs.
That is not the same thing as following a religion/ideology that are inextricably bound with every single aspect of one’s life, including having a unique set of laws (Sharia) which, if followed in a country that is not an Islamic State, could supersede a nation’s laws or Constitution – as demonstrated with this example.
This sort of radical determination to conquer and destroy our culture from within (from the “East is East” article) is also not comparable with the goals of Christianity:
In the United Arab Emirates, there is a popular religious channel called Al-Majd TV, somewhat less well known in the west than al-Jazeera. Speaking on it recently was Saudi Professor Nasser bin Suleiman al Omar who offered his listeners the following: “Islam is advancing according to a steady plan, to the point that tens of thousands of Muslims have joined the American army and Islam is the second largest religion in America. America will be destroyed. But we must be patient.”
That is far beyond merely electing politicians whose actions and proposals are compatible with our religious beliefs: that is a call to war (albeit to be accomplished by overwhelming the population).
Granted, this may be viewed as an extreme example, but certainly modern Christians are not called upon to “die” for the “cause” of conquering other nations in order to achieve Christian supremacy. Our nation can and does take offensive action as an act of self-defense, but that is not the same as a nation/church conquering a non-aggressor nation in order to forcefully usurp one religion and willfully and purposefully destroy a nation and it’s existing culture in the process.
Buy Danish on November 28, 2007 at 1:58 PM
right2bright on November 28, 2007 at 2:26 PM
I thought, haven’t looked it up, but the Christians were more like 24% of the Palestinian population, the majority living in Israel.
But either way, it shows dramatically the difference between Christianity and the “other”.
right2bright on November 28, 2007 at 2:29 PM
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