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		<title>By: Tel-Chai Nation</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/27/saudi-gang-rape-victim-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-808502</link>
		<dc:creator>Tel-Chai Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bush screws up on query about Saudi Arabia at pres...&lt;/strong&gt;

Michelle Malkin has the details on president Bush&#039;s latest press conference, in which he even flubbed a question about the blame-the-victim tactics used against a victim of gang rape in Saudi Arabia....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Bush screws up on query about Saudi Arabia at pres&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Michelle Malkin has the details on president Bush&#8217;s latest press conference, in which he even flubbed a question about the blame-the-victim tactics used against a victim of gang rape in Saudi Arabia&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: saiga</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/27/saudi-gang-rape-victim-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-795604</link>
		<dc:creator>saiga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She broke their rules.  Utterly stupid rules, of course, but rules none the less.  

The real issue is getting the primitive mindset behind those rediculous rules changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She broke their rules.  Utterly stupid rules, of course, but rules none the less.  </p>
<p>The real issue is getting the primitive mindset behind those rediculous rules changed.</p>
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		<title>By: rdpostsr</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/27/saudi-gang-rape-victim-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-795515</link>
		<dc:creator>rdpostsr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can you get cival justice from a barbaric society? Not in this lifetime.The Saudi&#039;s play two ends against the middle, they don&#039;t reveal the whole truth to &quot;non-believers&quot;, because the Muslims can say anything to the non-believers without any recourse...The only time a Muslim must tell the whole truth is to another Muslim.
The West will never understand until they realize the nation of Islam must be defeated and it&#039;s ideology must be removed from history. Then, and only then, will you get total peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you get cival justice from a barbaric society? Not in this lifetime.The Saudi&#8217;s play two ends against the middle, they don&#8217;t reveal the whole truth to &#8220;non-believers&#8221;, because the Muslims can say anything to the non-believers without any recourse&#8230;The only time a Muslim must tell the whole truth is to another Muslim.<br />
The West will never understand until they realize the nation of Islam must be defeated and it&#8217;s ideology must be removed from history. Then, and only then, will you get total peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Defector01</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/27/saudi-gang-rape-victim-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-795283</link>
		<dc:creator>Defector01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for those damn feminists I stopped trying to figure out why. They are so damned deranged that anything that can support the conservatives in any way must be suppressed or glossed over. And when the conservatives mention that they should be protesting wand complaining with the conservatives, the feminists gloss over, insult us and then lie outright. The feminists are traitors to their own causes and deserve to be held out as an example of pure mockery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for those damn feminists I stopped trying to figure out why. They are so damned deranged that anything that can support the conservatives in any way must be suppressed or glossed over. And when the conservatives mention that they should be protesting wand complaining with the conservatives, the feminists gloss over, insult us and then lie outright. The feminists are traitors to their own causes and deserve to be held out as an example of pure mockery.</p>
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		<title>By: Defector01</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/27/saudi-gang-rape-victim-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-795274</link>
		<dc:creator>Defector01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just bring the victim over here for counseling and treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just bring the victim over here for counseling and treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: awake</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/27/saudi-gang-rape-victim-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-795115</link>
		<dc:creator>awake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can&#039;t she just &quot;repent&quot; for her sins? It seemed to have worked just fine for the 1,500 recently freed jihadists, who will no doubt, be armed and in Iraq by Friday evening prayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t she just &#8220;repent&#8221; for her sins? It seemed to have worked just fine for the 1,500 recently freed jihadists, who will no doubt, be armed and in Iraq by Friday evening prayers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristopher</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/27/saudi-gang-rape-victim-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-795106</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So ... is the left ready to get on board with a declaration of war on Saudi Arabia?

I didn&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So &#8230; is the left ready to get on board with a declaration of war on Saudi Arabia?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: uptight</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/27/saudi-gang-rape-victim-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-795071</link>
		<dc:creator>uptight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The left have NOT been silent on this. Sadly, their impetus does not seem to be disgust at Islamic law, but how negligent Bush has been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The left have NOT been silent on this. Sadly, their impetus does not seem to be disgust at Islamic law, but how negligent Bush has been.</p>
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		<title>By: thuja</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/27/saudi-gang-rape-victim-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-795033</link>
		<dc:creator>thuja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

If the Saudis threatened to waterboard her, maybe then Dingy Harry and the feminist thumbsuckers would take up her cause.

Always Right on November 27, 2007 at 10:46 AM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Brilliant!  Simply Brilliant!
The sad thing is no matter how much their insane double standards are mocked, they will not listen.</description>
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<p>If the Saudis threatened to waterboard her, maybe then Dingy Harry and the feminist thumbsuckers would take up her cause.</p>
<p>Always Right on November 27, 2007 at 10:46 AM
</p></blockquote>
<p>Brilliant!  Simply Brilliant!<br />
The sad thing is no matter how much their insane double standards are mocked, they will not listen.</p>
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		<title>By: gmoonster</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/27/saudi-gang-rape-victim-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-795022</link>
		<dc:creator>gmoonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She was framed the whole way- from an apparently innocent telephone relationship, she gets blackmailed, then trapped and raped.  

This is no less than slavery of the entire female sex in the Kingdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She was framed the whole way- from an apparently innocent telephone relationship, she gets blackmailed, then trapped and raped.  </p>
<p>This is no less than slavery of the entire female sex in the Kingdom.</p>
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		<title>By: Hening</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/27/saudi-gang-rape-victim-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-795007</link>
		<dc:creator>Hening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if you hold a door open for a woman in the USA, you are a pig but if you gang rape a woman in Islam it&#039;s her fault.  

Meanwhile, the sound of crickets from the Left.

Feminist logic gives me a headache.  I guess even militant chicks want cheaper prices at the pumps?  I would at least expect a militant group of lesbians to choppah in and rescue her?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if you hold a door open for a woman in the USA, you are a pig but if you gang rape a woman in Islam it&#8217;s her fault.  </p>
<p>Meanwhile, the sound of crickets from the Left.</p>
<p>Feminist logic gives me a headache.  I guess even militant chicks want cheaper prices at the pumps?  I would at least expect a militant group of lesbians to choppah in and rescue her?</p>
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		<title>By: Bad Candy</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/27/saudi-gang-rape-victim-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-794978</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every time you think this story couldn&#039;t get any worse, it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time you think this story couldn&#8217;t get any worse, it does.</p>
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		<title>By: Always Right</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/27/saudi-gang-rape-victim-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-794949</link>
		<dc:creator>Always Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Saudis threatened to waterboard her, maybe then Dingy Harry and the feminist thumbsuckers would take up her cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Saudis threatened to waterboard her, maybe then Dingy Harry and the feminist thumbsuckers would take up her cause.</p>
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		<title>By: The Jawa Report</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/27/saudi-gang-rape-victim-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-794931</link>
		<dc:creator>The Jawa Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Good News! Saudis Release 1,500 al Qaeda...&lt;/strong&gt;

By popular request, this story from our &#039;friends&#039; the Saudis. Sun:&quot;The committee has met around 5,000 times to offer counseling to 3,200 people, who were accused of embracing the takfir ideology. The committee has successfully completed reforming 1,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Good News! Saudis Release 1,500 al Qaeda&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>By popular request, this story from our &#8216;friends&#8217; the Saudis. Sun:&#8221;The committee has met around 5,000 times to offer counseling to 3,200 people, who were accused of embracing the takfir ideology. The committee has successfully completed reforming 1,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fogw</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/27/saudi-gang-rape-victim-speaks/comment-page-1/#comment-794895</link>
		<dc:creator>fogw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Exit question: If the judiciary’s independent of the monarchy, how is it that 1,500 “reformed” Al Qaeda jihadis just got paroled at a perfectly politically convenient moment, as the Saudis appear at the Annapolis summit?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Former president BJ Clinton has been paid over $600,000 for speaking engagements in Saudi Arabia.  Chances are he devoted a few minutes to the political advantages of pardoning criminals acting against the better interests of the state.

Does the name Marc Rich ring a bell?

They were taught by the best.  Der Slimemeister.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Exit question: If the judiciary’s independent of the monarchy, how is it that 1,500 “reformed” Al Qaeda jihadis just got paroled at a perfectly politically convenient moment, as the Saudis appear at the Annapolis summit?</p></blockquote>
<p>Former president BJ Clinton has been paid over $600,000 for speaking engagements in Saudi Arabia.  Chances are he devoted a few minutes to the political advantages of pardoning criminals acting against the better interests of the state.</p>
<p>Does the name Marc Rich ring a bell?</p>
<p>They were taught by the best.  Der Slimemeister.</p>
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		<title>By: Quisp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/2007/11/16/saudi-rape-victim-sentenced-to-6-months-and-200-lashes/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Feminist Peace Network&lt;/a&gt; had this to say about it: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Why is it that when something like this happens to a woman that you think it is the sole responsibility of feminists to demonstrate against it. Seems to me it that its high time men to get out there and raise a stink as well.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



And this is what struck home for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogsheroes.com/feed/saudirapevictimsentencedt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Feminist Bloggers Network&lt;/a&gt; (Note that it&#039;s different from the story quoted above):

&lt;blockquote&gt;


I don’t think I need to emphasize how disgusting and horrible this is; but I do think it’s interesting that the Western media is reporting that there was a singular rape victim, and saying things like, “Some liberal commentators said her sentence highlighted the justice system’s failure to treat women fairly.”

The Saudi justice system does fail to treat women fairly, there’s no question about that. But here’s what happened:

    &lt;em&gt;The young woman’s offense was in meeting a former boyfriend, whom she had asked to return pictures he had of her because she was about to marry another man. The couple was sitting in a car when a group of seven men kidnapped them &lt;strong&gt;and raped them both&lt;/strong&gt;, lawyers in the case told Arab News, a Saudi newspaper.&lt;/em&gt;

Emphasis mine. The boyfriend was sentenced to 90 lashes as well; the only information I could find about his sentence was from Arab News, which states that the man decided not to appeal his conviction. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/2007/11/16/saudi-rape-victim-sentenced-to-6-months-and-200-lashes/" rel="nofollow">Feminist Peace Network</a> had this to say about it: </p>
<blockquote><p>Why is it that when something like this happens to a woman that you think it is the sole responsibility of feminists to demonstrate against it. Seems to me it that its high time men to get out there and raise a stink as well.</p></blockquote>
<p>And this is what struck home for the <a href="http://www.blogsheroes.com/feed/saudirapevictimsentencedt" rel="nofollow">Feminist Bloggers Network</a> (Note that it&#8217;s different from the story quoted above):</p>
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<p>I don’t think I need to emphasize how disgusting and horrible this is; but I do think it’s interesting that the Western media is reporting that there was a singular rape victim, and saying things like, “Some liberal commentators said her sentence highlighted the justice system’s failure to treat women fairly.”</p>
<p>The Saudi justice system does fail to treat women fairly, there’s no question about that. But here’s what happened:</p>
<p>    <em>The young woman’s offense was in meeting a former boyfriend, whom she had asked to return pictures he had of her because she was about to marry another man. The couple was sitting in a car when a group of seven men kidnapped them <strong>and raped them both</strong>, lawyers in the case told Arab News, a Saudi newspaper.</em></p>
<p>Emphasis mine. The boyfriend was sentenced to 90 lashes as well; the only information I could find about his sentence was from Arab News, which states that the man decided not to appeal his conviction. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: thejackal</title>
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		<dc:creator>thejackal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently feminism is only appropriate for female white American college grads.</description>
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		<title>By: liberrocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberrocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Dumb question:
Why aren’t we hearing from the feminazis about this?
Or any number of women’s rights organizations.

SuperManGreenLantern on November 27, 2007 at 9:20 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes that is a dumb question, since it has been asked (and answered) about a trillion times in the last 20 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Dumb question:<br />
Why aren’t we hearing from the feminazis about this?<br />
Or any number of women’s rights organizations.</p>
<p>SuperManGreenLantern on November 27, 2007 at 9:20 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes that is a dumb question, since it has been asked (and answered) about a trillion times in the last 20 years.</p>
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		<title>By: SuperManGreenLantern</title>
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		<dc:creator>SuperManGreenLantern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumb question:
Why aren&#039;t we hearing from the feminazis about this?
Or any number of women&#039;s rights organizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumb question:<br />
Why aren&#8217;t we hearing from the feminazis about this?<br />
Or any number of women&#8217;s rights organizations.</p>
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